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On 2026/8/21 18:43:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
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I rented a car this past week, a Fiat 600e, and it had both TomTom navigation and Android Auto included in the large secondary screen.

According to <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bTofng6Hjo> TomTom is
dead. But I looked at their website and they are selling several
hardware models, some of them for profesional drivers.

One new feature (for me) is entering in the config the size and weight
of the vehicle.

Last time I bought a standalone device, I bought an XGODY - no, I'd not
heard of them before either, but it came with a bigger screen and for a
lot lower price than any of the alternatives, as well as bluetooth
connectivity and an FM tramsmitter (so I could in theory use it to get a smartphone to play through the car which doesn't have that facility -
also, which is what I used it for mostly, am mp3 player). Yes, it had
the facility to enter assorted lorry (truck) parameters, presumably so
it could select routes that take those into account. Came with maps of
most of the world; I only used the UK ones, but they seemed fine. 3D
views if wanted, also lane markings/signage at many exits. I was very
pleased with it - yes some slight quirks, but easily got used to.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The beauty of a double entendre is that it only means one thing
- attributed to Ronnie Barker
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 13:42:07 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

Yes, it had the
facility to enter assorted lorry (truck) parameters, presumably so it
could select routes that take those into account.

Back in the '90s when I was driving OTR I would have killed for one of
those. Paper maps were good as far as they went. When you called the
consignee and asked for local directions you hoped you weren't talking to
a secretary who described the route she took with her Honda Civic.

Cellphones would have been great too. Nothing like looking for a working payphone when you're driving a 65' long RV.
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 17:15:50 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

... the satellites that make GPS work ... only transmit very
accurate time signals ...

Also their accurate position data.

They can’t actually figure out what this is: they get periodic uploads
of their own orbital elements from a central control on Earth.
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On 2026/8/25 8:48:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 17:15:50 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

... the satellites that make GPS work ... only transmit very
accurate time signals ...

Also their accurate position data.

They can’t actually figure out what this is: they get periodic uploads
of their own orbital elements from a central control on Earth.

Yes; I meant, they don't even give map data, they certainly don't have
traffic info, roadworks, etcetera. The map data has to be in the
receiving device, and traffic data and the like, if it displays that,
must come from some other source, such as cellular or RDS if any
stations still send it via that.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Knowledge isnt elitist - that's rubbish! Why are we embarrassed by the
idea that people know things? It's not a conspiracy against the
ignorant. Knowing things is good!" - Jeremy Paxman, RT 14-20 Aug. 2010
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On 25/08/2026 11:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

They can’t actually figure out what this is: they get periodic uploads
of their own orbital elements from a central control on Earth.

Yes; I meant, they don't even give map data, they certainly don't have traffic info, roadworks, etcetera. The map data has to be in the
receiving device, and traffic data and the like, if it displays that,
must come from some other source, such as cellular or RDS if any
stations still send it via that.

Yes. It's a mystery to me how My GO app gets its data. I am not sure
that it is via the Internet at all. It has asked me 'is there still a
speed camera there' and it absolutely phones home so users in traffic
jams notify it of the fact.

Googling implies it uses an API to connect over the internet. It cannot
be a lot of data as it never shows up in usage, much
--
There’s a mighty big difference between good, sound reasons and reasons
that sound good.

Burton Hillis (William Vaughn, American columnist)

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On 2026/8/25 12:40:5, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 25/08/2026 11:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

They can’t actually figure out what this is: they get periodic uploads >>> of their own orbital elements from a central control on Earth.

Yes; I meant, they don't even give map data, they certainly don't have
traffic info, roadworks, etcetera. The map data has to be in the
receiving device, and traffic data and the like, if it displays that,
must come from some other source, such as cellular or RDS if any
stations still send it via that.

Yes. It's a mystery to me how My GO app gets its data. I am not sure
that it is via the Internet at all. It has asked me 'is there still a
speed camera there' and it absolutely phones home so users in traffic
jams notify it of the fact.

That could be done automatically by them detecting (slow) speed.

Googling implies it uses an API to connect over the internet. It cannot
be a lot of data as it never shows up in usage, much

If there's uplink of data - traffic jams or you answering that question
- then it can't be RDS, as that's only one-way, so I _presume_ it _must_
be via the internet. When you say it doesn't show up in usage, *much*,
do you mean that it does show up a little? (Or, maybe, whatever monitors
your usage doesn't identify when it's a small amount.)




--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Have the courage to be ordinary - people make themselves so desperately
unhappy trying to be clever and totally original.
(Robbie Coltrane, RT 8-14 Nov. 1997.)
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On 2026-08-25 18:39, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

On 2026/8/25 12:40:5, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 25/08/2026 11:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

They can’t actually figure out what this is: they get periodic uploads >>>> of their own orbital elements from a central control on Earth.

Yes; I meant, they don't even give map data, they certainly don't have
traffic info, roadworks, etcetera. The map data has to be in the
receiving device, and traffic data and the like, if it displays that,
must come from some other source, such as cellular or RDS if any
stations still send it via that.

Yes. It's a mystery to me how My GO app gets its data. I am not sure
that it is via the Internet at all. It has asked me 'is there still a
speed camera there' and it absolutely phones home so users in traffic
jams notify it of the fact.

That could be done automatically by them detecting (slow) speed.

It is documented that TomTom does this. Aggregated data from many users.
It is opt-out: but in that case you also do not receive traffic info.

They also use public traffic information from the country authorities.

Googling implies it uses an API to connect over the internet. It cannot
be a lot of data as it never shows up in usage, much

If there's uplink of data - traffic jams or you answering that question
- then it can't be RDS, as that's only one-way, so I _presume_ it _must_
be via the internet. When you say it doesn't show up in usage, *much*,
do you mean that it does show up a little? (Or, maybe, whatever monitors
your usage doesn't identify when it's a small amount.)

It can work using a BT connection between the hardware navigator and the phone.
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Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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