• Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirmsit's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled

    From Mr. Chang Man-wai@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Thu Sep 3 07:59:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11


    Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirms it's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled <https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-warning-virus-protection-is-off-but-microsoft-confirms-its-false/>

    微軟 Windows 突然「通知」異常 顯示「Defender 已關閉」 實則正常運作 - 電腦領域
    HKEPC Hardware - 全港 No.1 PC網站
    <https://www.hkepc.com/26616/>
    --

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  • From Sun Wukong@bring.solutions@no.irrelevant.xposts to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Sep 3 17:28:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:

    Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirms it's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled <https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-warning-virus-protection-is-off-but-microsoft-confirms-its-false/>


    For a solution worth trying, see <https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsinsiders/comments/1ul8qpn/virus_protection_is_turned_off_tap_or_click_to/>


    Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32

    Removed irrelevant xpost groups
    * alt.windows7.general .................... this problem does not occur on Windows 7
    * alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt .......... this is not a PC hardware problem * comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 ..... this is for end users not programmers
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  • From Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson@johann@myrkraverk.invalid to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Fri Sep 4 12:39:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 03/09/2026 7:59 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:

    Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirms it's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled <https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-warning-virus- protection-is-off-but-microsoft-confirms-its-false/>

    I now use BitDefender for all of my anti-virus needs. Well, sort of,
    I also have I.B.M. anti-virus for D.O.S. but it complains it's not been
    updated recently.

    Yet, I somehow get the warning from Windows -- I forgot the exact
    verbage -- that my very own recently compiled .exe files are blocked
    from execution. I'll remember to discuss that in alt.comp.os.windows-11
    in the near future, as for my own programs it's only a minor inconven-
    ience; unrelated to Ambassador Londo Mollari in Babylon 5.

    Do we have a group for discussing Babylon 5?

    So, I'm not sure if you're complaining about the lack of virus protect-
    ion, but you can always try BitDefender on your own, and see if it helps
    you out.

    微軟 Windows 突然「通知」異常 顯示「Defender 已關閉」 實則正常運作 - 電
    腦領域 HKEPC Hardware - 全港 No.1 PC網站 <https://www.hkepc.com/26616/>


    I don't read the Chinese -- not yet -- so I'm going to assume this is a
    product placement you got paid for.
    --
    Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
    I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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  • From ....winston@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Fri Sep 4 02:12:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 09/04/2026 12:39 AM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
    On 03/09/2026 7:59 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:

    Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirms
    it's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled
    <https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-warning-virus-
    protection-is-off-but-microsoft-confirms-its-false/>

    I now use BitDefender for all of my anti-virus needs.  Well, sort of,
    I also have I.B.M. anti-virus for D.O.S. but it complains it's not been updated recently.

    Yet, I somehow get the warning from Windows -- I forgot the exact
    verbage -- that my very own recently compiled .exe files are blocked
    from execution.

    Could be MSFT Smart Screen or similar file protection hardening.
    Have you considered looking at the properties of the executable(*.exe
    file) and toggling on the Unblock field(i.e. to unblock the exe file)
    --
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Fri Sep 4 04:25:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Fri, 9/4/2026 2:12 AM, ....winston wrote:
    On 09/04/2026 12:39 AM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
    On 03/09/2026 7:59 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:

    Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirms it's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled
    <https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-warning-virus- protection-is-off-but-microsoft-confirms-its-false/>

    I now use BitDefender for all of my anti-virus needs.  Well, sort of,
    I also have I.B.M. anti-virus for D.O.S. but it complains it's not been
    updated recently.

    Yet, I somehow get the warning from Windows -- I forgot the exact
    verbage -- that my very own recently compiled .exe files are blocked
    from execution. 

    Could be MSFT Smart Screen or similar file protection hardening.
     Have you considered looking at the properties of the executable(*.exe file) and toggling on the Unblock field(i.e. to unblock the exe file)


    SmartScreen should check with the Cloud, and for any EXE for which
    "few downloads of it have been detected", then if you leave SmartScreen enabled, you will receive such warnings.

    This is the pretty standard "reputational" analysis afforded by
    low quality AV products. The AV product may have "nothing serious"
    to report on a given day, no "actual" malware. But if it complains
    about every executable file for which it has never seen the SHA256
    value before, the screen will present a number of warning Notifications.

    That's not a malware detection. That is a detection of an "infrequently
    seen file". And this mainly annoys developers. The same thing happens,
    when as a small developer, you give a dozen copies of your work to testers,
    and all of their attempts to run the code are blocked.

    This has also been a bug for the ecosystem, there was a period of months
    where a bunch of stuff was mis-classified. And that has now stopped.
    I was clicking through endless inappropriate assertions during that period.
    If I put something on the D: drive today, I am no longer pestered like that.

    Paul
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Fri Sep 4 17:28:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Paul,

    That's not a malware detection. That is a detection of an "infrequently
    seen file".

    A signature-scanning AV products doesn't do malware detection either. It
    just compares a hash with a list of known malware, and tells you if it found
    a match.

    This "seldom seen" mechanism fixes the problem of signature-scanning AV products, which always have a delay between the malware being deployed and
    it being detected* and marked as such.

    * with such detection never happening on the users 'puter.

    Both methods have their own shortcomings.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Fri Sep 4 17:03:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2026/9/4 5:39:1, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
    []
    Do we have a group for discussing Babylon 5?
    []
    My list (from eternal-september, I think) includes:
    alt.babylon5.uk
    alt.startrek.vs.babylon5
    alt.tv.babylon-5
    alt.tv.babylon5
    aus.sf.babylon5
    de.rec.sf.babylon5.misc
    fido7.ru.babylon5
    finet.harrastus.babylon5
    it.fan.tv.babylon5
    maus.rec.babylon5
    maus.sciencefiction.babylon5
    pl.rec.fantasyka.babylon5
    rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5
    rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
    uk.media.tv.sf.babylon5

    so I think the answer is probably that we do. I don't take any of them,
    so I don't know if they're dormant or full of junk.--
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep decide what is for dinner.
    (quoted by) Ipraylam, 2015-07-13
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  • From ....winston@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Fri Sep 4 18:04:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 09/04/2026 4:25 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Fri, 9/4/2026 2:12 AM, ....winston wrote:
    On 09/04/2026 12:39 AM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
    On 03/09/2026 7:59 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:

    Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirms it's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled
    <https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-warning-virus- protection-is-off-but-microsoft-confirms-its-false/>

    I now use BitDefender for all of my anti-virus needs.  Well, sort of,
    I also have I.B.M. anti-virus for D.O.S. but it complains it's not been
    updated recently.

    Yet, I somehow get the warning from Windows -- I forgot the exact
    verbage -- that my very own recently compiled .exe files are blocked
    from execution.

    Could be MSFT Smart Screen or similar file protection hardening.
     Have you considered looking at the properties of the executable(*.exe file) and toggling on the Unblock field(i.e. to unblock the exe file)


    SmartScreen should check with the Cloud, and for any EXE for which
    "few downloads of it have been detected", then if you leave SmartScreen enabled, you will receive such warnings.

    This is the pretty standard "reputational" analysis afforded by
    low quality AV products. The AV product may have "nothing serious"
    to report on a given day, no "actual" malware. But if it complains
    about every executable file for which it has never seen the SHA256
    value before, the screen will present a number of warning Notifications.

    That's not a malware detection. That is a detection of an "infrequently
    seen file". And this mainly annoys developers. The same thing happens,
    when as a small developer, you give a dozen copies of your work to testers, and all of their attempts to run the code are blocked.

    This has also been a bug for the ecosystem, there was a period of months where a bunch of stuff was mis-classified. And that has now stopped.
    I was clicking through endless inappropriate assertions during that period. If I put something on the D: drive today, I am no longer pestered like that.

    Paul

    For clarification.

    The blocking of an exe file is from Windows, not Defender and any AV
    Program.
    The primary Windows component that blocks the file as the Attachment Manager(AM) which determines if the file originates from an unknown source.
    -if found, the AM adds an alternate data stream to file(hidden
    metadata tag).
    Once the file is attempted to run(double-click), the hidden tag is
    detected and Smart Screen kicks in. Smart Screen checks the file
    presence in MSFT's cloud database of safe and malicious programs and
    apps. If not seen as safe, it's necessary to unblock file(in its
    properties).
    - Note: Running the file after blocking may also generate and require 'okaying' a UAC prompt for permission to proceed.
    --
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Sat Sep 5 02:04:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Fri, 9/4/2026 6:04 PM, ....winston wrote:
    On 09/04/2026 4:25 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Fri, 9/4/2026 2:12 AM, ....winston wrote:
    On 09/04/2026 12:39 AM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
    On 03/09/2026 7:59 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:

    Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirms it's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled
    <https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-warning-virus- protection-is-off-but-microsoft-confirms-its-false/>

    I now use BitDefender for all of my anti-virus needs.  Well, sort of, >>>> I also have I.B.M. anti-virus for D.O.S. but it complains it's not been >>>> updated recently.

    Yet, I somehow get the warning from Windows -- I forgot the exact
    verbage -- that my very own recently compiled .exe files are blocked
    from execution.

    Could be MSFT Smart Screen or similar file protection hardening.
      Have you considered looking at the properties of the executable(*.exe file) and toggling on the Unblock field(i.e. to unblock the exe file)


    SmartScreen should check with the Cloud, and for any EXE for which
    "few downloads of it have been detected", then if you leave SmartScreen
    enabled, you will receive such warnings.

    This is the pretty standard "reputational" analysis afforded by
    low quality AV products. The AV product may have "nothing serious"
    to report on a given day, no "actual" malware. But if it complains
    about every executable file for which it has never seen the SHA256
    value before, the screen will present a number of warning Notifications.

    That's not a malware detection. That is a detection of an "infrequently
    seen file". And this mainly annoys developers. The same thing happens,
    when as a small developer, you give a dozen copies of your work to testers, >> and all of their attempts to run the code are blocked.

    This has also been a bug for the ecosystem, there was a period of months
    where a bunch of stuff was mis-classified. And that has now stopped.
    I was clicking through endless inappropriate assertions during that period. >> If I put something on the D: drive today, I am no longer pestered like that. >>
        Paul

    For clarification.

    The blocking of an exe file is from Windows, not Defender and any AV Program.  The primary Windows component that blocks the file as the Attachment Manager(AM) which determines if the file originates from an unknown source.
     -if found, the AM adds an alternate data stream to file(hidden metadata tag).
     Once the file is attempted to run(double-click), the hidden tag is detected and Smart Screen kicks in. Smart Screen checks the file presence in MSFT's cloud database of safe and malicious programs and apps. If not seen as safe, it's necessary to unblock file(in its properties).
     - Note: Running the file after blocking may also generate and require 'okaying' a UAC prompt for permission to proceed.

    You can receive a variety of responses, when the Alternate Stream
    is missing and there is nothing to unblock in terms of where
    a thing was downloaded from.

    I was getting these warnings from materials *coming from another disk drive*. Where a browser was not involved. Where there was no Alternate Stream.
    The common element was, my D: drive was involved for when a Notification
    would pop up. This wasn't a C: problem. The files did not have to be executables either.

    At the time, I had no idea where this was coming from, the control
    from Smart Screen being off.

    Sometimes, the evidence is easy to figure out.
    Just not all of the time. Sometimes it's a bug,
    and it's not possible to determine where the bug
    came from. I was also not able to find a strong signal
    in Google to use, as part of debug. It was my problem
    to own.

    At no time did I consider the source to be nefarious.
    It was some kind of bug, just because of the non-pattern
    to it. If you're attempting to tip over a machine,
    you'd be better at it, than that.

    *******

    And totally off topic.

    "How do you define Success ???"

    This is how you define success (as seen in Reliability Monitor)

    i Informational events (7)

    9NRZT3Q9R3DL-Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.2 Successful Windows Update Thu, 9/3/2026 5:38 PM View technical details
    9NRZT3Q9R3DL-Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.2 Successful Windows Update Thu, 9/3/2026 5:38 PM View technical details
    9NRZT3Q9R3DL-Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.2 Successful Windows Update Thu, 9/3/2026 5:38 PM View technical details
    9NRZT3Q9R3DL-Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.2 Successful Windows Update Thu, 9/3/2026 5:37 PM View technical details
    9NRZT3Q9R3DL-Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.2 Successful Windows Update Thu, 9/3/2026 5:37 PM View technical details
    9NRZT3Q9R3DL-Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.2 Successful Windows Update Thu, 9/3/2026 5:37 PM View technical details
    ... ^^^^^^^^^^ [Snarf]

    Take that and... that... and... that... you dirty rat...

    Now, that's how you install software and you make sure it is installed.
    Then, you do the same thing the next day.

    Directory of c:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.2_2.4.0.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM <DIR> .
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    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:47 AM 13,664 Microsoft.Windows.System.winmd
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 12,056 Microsoft.Windows.Vision.winmd
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 17,176 Microsoft.Windows.VisionInternal.winmd
    Thu, 05/21/2026 07:27 PM 2,469,688 Microsoft.Windows.Widgets.dll
    Thu, 05/21/2026 07:26 PM 36,152 Microsoft.Windows.Widgets.winmd Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 400,672 Microsoft.Windows.Workloads.dll Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 162,112 Microsoft.Windows.Workloads.Resources.dll
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 174,904 Microsoft.Windows.Workloads.Resources_ec.dll
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 11,544 Microsoft.Windows.Workloads.winmd Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 2,608,440 Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.dll Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 34,104 Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.Insights.Resource.dll
    Tue, 05/12/2026 03:03 PM 11,296 Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.pri Fri, 08/14/2026 03:47 AM 43 Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.Release!2.4.0
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 290,104 MRM.dll
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 287,536 NPUDetect.dll <===== If ya got'em, smoke'em
    Fri, 07/17/2026 02:01 AM 21,659,280 onnxruntime.dll <============ AI/ML, harnessed your vid card, a "driver"
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 1,759,008 PerceptiveStreaming.dll
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 33,120 PushNotificationsLongRunningTask.ProxyStub.dll
    Thu, 07/16/2026 01:25 AM 2,183,976 resources.pri
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 77,664 RestartAgent.exe
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 34,072 SessionHandleIPCProxyStub.dll
    Wed, 06/10/2026 05:34 AM 25,294 streaming_sr_cpu_1x192x192x3.all.onnxe
    Wed, 06/10/2026 05:34 AM 101,145 streaming_sr_wodq_1x384x384x3.all.onnxe
    Fri, 07/17/2026 02:01 AM 397,744 WindowsAppRuntime.DeploymentExtensions.OneCore.dll
    Wed, 08/31/2022 02:54 PM 232 WindowsAppRuntime.png
    Fri, 07/17/2026 02:01 AM 45,488 WindowsAppSdk.AppxDeploymentExtensions.Desktop-EventLog-Instrumentation.dll
    Fri, 07/17/2026 02:01 AM 645,040 WindowsAppSdk.AppxDeploymentExtensions.Desktop.dll
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 3,419,448 WinUIEdit.dll
    Tue, 05/12/2026 03:03 PM 10,851 workloads.365.json
    Tue, 05/12/2026 03:03 PM 17,297 workloads.j32.json
    Tue, 05/12/2026 03:03 PM 10,638 workloads.json
    Tue, 05/12/2026 03:03 PM 17,305 workloads.lnl.json
    Tue, 05/12/2026 03:03 PM 17,297 workloads.qnn.json
    Tue, 05/12/2026 03:03 PM 17,305 workloads.stx.json
    Fri, 08/14/2026 03:48 AM 497,440 wuceffectsi.dll
    120 File(s) 112,589,643 bytes

    So yes, now that's a runtime. Comes with its own picnic lunch.

    Paul
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  • From ....winston@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Sat Sep 5 02:28:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 09/05/2026 2:04 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Fri, 9/4/2026 6:04 PM, ....winston wrote:
    On 09/04/2026 4:25 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Fri, 9/4/2026 2:12 AM, ....winston wrote:

    Could be MSFT Smart Screen or similar file protection hardening.
      Have you considered looking at the properties of the executable(*.exe file) and toggling on the Unblock field(i.e. to unblock the exe file)


    SmartScreen should check with the Cloud, and for any EXE for which
    "few downloads of it have been detected", then if you leave SmartScreen
    enabled, you will receive such warnings.

    This is the pretty standard "reputational" analysis afforded by
    low quality AV products. The AV product may have "nothing serious"
    to report on a given day, no "actual" malware. But if it complains
    about every executable file for which it has never seen the SHA256
    value before, the screen will present a number of warning Notifications. >>>
    That's not a malware detection. That is a detection of an "infrequently
    seen file". And this mainly annoys developers. The same thing happens,
    when as a small developer, you give a dozen copies of your work to testers, >>> and all of their attempts to run the code are blocked.

    This has also been a bug for the ecosystem, there was a period of months >>> where a bunch of stuff was mis-classified. And that has now stopped.
    I was clicking through endless inappropriate assertions during that period. >>> If I put something on the D: drive today, I am no longer pestered like that.

        Paul

    For clarification.

    The blocking of an exe file is from Windows, not Defender and any AV Program.
     The primary Windows component that blocks the file as the Attachment Manager(AM) which determines if the file originates from an unknown source.
     -if found, the AM adds an alternate data stream to file(hidden metadata tag).
     Once the file is attempted to run(double-click), the hidden tag is detected and Smart Screen kicks in. Smart Screen checks the file presence in MSFT's cloud database of safe and malicious programs and apps. If not seen as safe, it's necessary to unblock file(in its properties).
     - Note: Running the file after blocking may also generate and require 'okaying' a UAC prompt for permission to proceed.

    You can receive a variety of responses, when the Alternate Stream
    is missing and there is nothing to unblock in terms of where
    a thing was downloaded from.

    I was getting these warnings from materials *coming from another disk drive*. Where a browser was not involved. Where there was no Alternate Stream.
    The common element was, my D: drive was involved for when a Notification would pop up. This wasn't a C: problem. The files did not have to be executables either.

    You're not alone. :)
    - have seen warnings/prompts on other disks(HD's, SSD's). Most, iirc,
    have been from files on disks that are backup oriented(HD' and SSD's
    that are inserted in to my USB caddy(slots for both 3.5/2.5" form factor
    size disks) and a few(older archived files) on my WD Passport.
    Some were created on earlier, no longer present pcs(desk, lap, tablet).

    At the time, I had no idea where this was coming from, the control
    from Smart Screen being off.

    I've never turned SS off for any length of time on my current devices
    beyond a few, rare isolated incidents, though atm don't even recall why.

    Sometimes, the evidence is easy to figure out.
    Just not all of the time. Sometimes it's a bug,
    and it's not possible to determine where the bug
    came from. I was also not able to find a strong signal
    in Google to use, as part of debug. It was my problem
    to own.

    Keeps the brain working...maybe that's a good thing as we approach or
    function in our elder/sage/wise years.
    --
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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  • From Brian Gregory@void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 on Sat Sep 5 23:53:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 03/09/2026 00:59, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:

    Windows 11 is warning "Virus protection is off," Microsoft confirms it's false, but verify if Defender is actually enabled <https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-warning-virus- protection-is-off-but-microsoft-confirms-its-false/>

    微軟 Windows 突然「通知」異常 顯示「Defender 已關閉」 實則正常運作 - 電
    腦領域 HKEPC Hardware - 全港 No.1 PC網站 <https://www.hkepc.com/26616/>


    Yes after some good updates recently the latest Preview update seems a
    bit of a lemon to me.
    More problems than before with multiple things starting up
    simultaneously at windows log on.
    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).
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