• win printer question

    From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Sep 3 19:04:58 2026
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    Hi All,

    I thought printer manufactures had stopped the stupid practice
    of taking firmware out of their printers and putting it into
    software (Win printers). But I just came across a specialty
    printer that is a win printer that a customer wants networked
    to three computers.

    Because it is a"win printer and no Ethernet, which does not work
    with a win printer anyway, I figure I will have to usb connect
    the printer to one of the three workstations and then network
    share the win printer.

    But it occurred to me, if it is a win printer, will it even
    be able to be shared from that workstation?

    Yours in Confusion,
    -T
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Sep 4 08:37:13 2026
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    T wrote:

    But it occurred to me, if it is a win printer, will it even
    be able to be shared from that workstation?

    Thankfully I don't have to deal with non-ethernet printers, that doesn't
    mean that HP makes the admin's life easy ... so called "universal"
    drivers ... yeah right! Dick about extracting .inf and .cab files from
    their installers ...
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Sep 4 13:34:50 2026
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    On 9/3/26 7:04 PM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I thought printer manufactures had stopped the stupid practice
    of taking firmware out of their printers and putting it into
    software (Win printers).  But I just came across a specialty
    printer that is a win printer that a customer wants networked
    to three computers.

    Because it is a"win printer and no Ethernet, which does not work
    with a win printer anyway, I figure I will have to usb connect
    the printer to one of the three workstations and then network
    share the win printer.

    But it occurred to me, if it is a win printer, will it even
    be able to be shared from that workstation?

    Yours in Confusion,
    -T


    Got the official name for a "Win Printer": host-rendered printer

    ChatGPT thinks it is possible and as it is part of the Windows
    print spec. Just use:

    Printer Properties → Sharing → Render print jobs on client computers
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Sep 4 13:36:36 2026
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    On 9/4/26 12:37 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    T wrote:

    But it occurred to me, if it is a win printer, will it even
    be able to be shared from that workstation?

    Thankfully I don't have to deal with non-ethernet printers, that doesn't mean that HP makes the admin's life easy ... so called "universal"
    drivers ... yeah right!  Dick about extracting .inf and .cab files from their installers ...


    I specifically request my customers switch to Brother printers.

    HP consumer level printers are ....

    Their enterprise/business lever are boilerplate and wonderful.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Sep 4 18:50:10 2026
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    On Thu, 9/3/2026 10:04 PM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I thought printer manufactures had stopped the stupid practice
    of taking firmware out of their printers and putting it into
    software (Win printers).  But I just came across a specialty
    printer that is a win printer that a customer wants networked
    to three computers.

    Because it is a"win printer and no Ethernet, which does not work
    with a win printer anyway, I figure I will have to usb connect
    the printer to one of the three workstations and then network
    share the win printer.

    But it occurred to me, if it is a win printer, will it even
    be able to be shared from that workstation?

    Yours in Confusion,
    -T

    Ask your LLM-AI "What printing standards does <Make> <Model> of
    printer support ? What kind of device can I use as a print server
    over a USB cable interface to that printer ?"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol

    "IPP also allows printing to a printer connected via USB,
    by sending the IPP protocol commands via a USB connection[24]."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_Printer_Daemon_protocol

    Paul
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Sep 4 20:03:22 2026
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    On 9/4/26 3:50 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Thu, 9/3/2026 10:04 PM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I thought printer manufactures had stopped the stupid practice
    of taking firmware out of their printers and putting it into
    software (Win printers).  But I just came across a specialty
    printer that is a win printer that a customer wants networked
    to three computers.

    Because it is a"win printer and no Ethernet, which does not work
    with a win printer anyway, I figure I will have to usb connect
    the printer to one of the three workstations and then network
    share the win printer.

    But it occurred to me, if it is a win printer, will it even
    be able to be shared from that workstation?

    Yours in Confusion,
    -T

    Ask your LLM-AI "What printing standards does <Make> <Model> of
    printer support ? What kind of device can I use as a print server
    over a USB cable interface to that printer ?"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol

    "IPP also allows printing to a printer connected via USB,
    by sending the IPP protocol commands via a USB connection[24]."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_Printer_Daemon_protocol

    Paul


    StarTech looked it up for me. It is "host-rendered printer'

    I configured out a stripped W11 tiny for them to connect
    to it as a print server. $200 on ebay
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  • From Valerio Vanni@valerio.vanni@inwind.it to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Sep 5 14:31:50 2026
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    On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 13:34:50 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Got the official name for a "Win Printer": host-rendered printer

    ChatGPT thinks it is possible and as it is part of the Windows
    print spec. Just use:

    Printer Properties ? Sharing ? Render print jobs on client computers

    I remember some case (cheap HP printers) where printing on network
    shared port \\pc1\printer1 didn't work.
    --
    Ci sono 10 tipi di persone al mondo: quelle che capiscono il sistema binario
    e quelle che non lo capiscono.
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Sep 5 07:02:13 2026
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    On 9/5/26 5:31 AM, Valerio Vanni wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 13:34:50 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Got the official name for a "Win Printer": host-rendered printer

    ChatGPT thinks it is possible and as it is part of the Windows
    print spec. Just use:

    Printer Properties ? Sharing ? Render print jobs on client computers

    I remember some case (cheap HP printers) where printing on network
    shared port \\pc1\printer1 didn't work.


    And it is hard to tell if the problem is W11, HP, or both!
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  • From Valerio Vanni@valerio.vanni@inwind.it to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Sep 5 22:04:59 2026
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    On Sat, 5 Sep 2026 07:02:13 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Printer Properties ? Sharing ? Render print jobs on client computers

    I remember some case (cheap HP printers) where printing on network
    shared port \\pc1\printer1 didn't work.


    And it is hard to tell if the problem is W11, HP, or both!

    The cases I remember were about some older Windows.
    The prolem was HP driver, able to work only via USB.
    --
    Ci sono 10 tipi di persone al mondo: quelle che capiscono il sistema binario
    e quelle che non lo capiscono.
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Sep 6 12:36:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 9/5/26 1:04 PM, Valerio Vanni wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Sep 2026 07:02:13 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Printer Properties ? Sharing ? Render print jobs on client computers

    I remember some case (cheap HP printers) where printing on network
    shared port \\pc1\printer1 didn't work.


    And it is hard to tell if the problem is W11, HP, or both!

    The cases I remember were about some older Windows.
    The prolem was HP driver, able to work only via USB.


    Lat HP I had to fight with had is WiFi configured with Blue Tooth.
    And it would not. Probably did not like the Mac Book's Blue Tooth configuration or who knows. The printer had an Ethernet jack.
    One Ethernet cable and problem solved.
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