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  • Microsoft just gave up (Co-Pilot+ PCs, fun video)

    From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Oct 8 11:12:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Co-Pilot+ PCs are the latest thing Microsoft has completely given up on.

    <https://www.bitchute.com/video/TdfF1yB68K8/?list=notifications&randomize=false>
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    CrudeSausage
    MacBook Air M4
    iPhone 13

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Oct 8 13:09:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 10/8/2026 11:12 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Co-Pilot+ PCs are the latest thing Microsoft has completely given up on.

    <https://www.bitchute.com/video/TdfF1yB68K8/?list=notifications&randomize=false>


    They've gone up-market a bit, and made some things for the dev community.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/10/microsoft-event-debuts-new-ai-friendly-hardware-and-windows-changes/

    Surface Laptop Ultra Nvidia RTX Spark SoC Starting price $2600 (24GB RAM model) [You'd want a more expensive one]

    RTX Spark Dev Box (Similar to GB10) Starting price $6000 (128GB RAM model) 273 to 300GB/sec bandwidth
    [273 was the original release GB10]
    [Slightly faster LPDDR5x are available]

    Memory bandwidth on devices:

    RTX Spark Dev Box ~300GB/sec (depends on what LPDDR5x ships in it)
    Some M5 box ~1200GB/sec (LPDDR5x on chiplet based, impact of interconnect unknown)
    RTX 6000 Pro ~1500GB/sec (GDDRxx type VRAM connected to one giant chip, this is "real" bandwidth)

    And each has correspondingly "golden shovel" pricing.

    Paul
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Oct 8 13:17:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2026-10-08 1:09 p.m., Paul wrote:
    On Thu, 10/8/2026 11:12 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Co-Pilot+ PCs are the latest thing Microsoft has completely given up on.

    <https://www.bitchute.com/video/TdfF1yB68K8/?list=notifications&randomize=false>


    They've gone up-market a bit, and made some things for the dev community.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/10/microsoft-event-debuts-new-ai-friendly-hardware-and-windows-changes/

    Surface Laptop Ultra Nvidia RTX Spark SoC Starting price $2600 (24GB RAM model) [You'd want a more expensive one]

    RTX Spark Dev Box (Similar to GB10) Starting price $6000 (128GB RAM model) 273 to 300GB/sec bandwidth
    [273 was the original release GB10]
    [Slightly faster LPDDR5x are available]

    Memory bandwidth on devices:

    RTX Spark Dev Box ~300GB/sec (depends on what LPDDR5x ships in it)
    Some M5 box ~1200GB/sec (LPDDR5x on chiplet based, impact of interconnect unknown)
    RTX 6000 Pro ~1500GB/sec (GDDRxx type VRAM connected to one giant chip, this is "real" bandwidth)

    And each has correspondingly "golden shovel" pricing.

    Paul

    I would have been interested in this computer if Microsoft hadn't
    alienated me so wholeheartedly with its constant failures over the last
    two decades. I also don't believe Microsoft is capable of producing a
    decent ARM-based operating system.
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    CrudeSausage
    MacBook Air M4
    iPhone 13
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  • From Nick Charles@none@none.none to alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Oct 8 21:13:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Oct 8, 2026 at 1:09:56 PM EDT, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 10/8/2026 11:12 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Co-Pilot+ PCs are the latest thing Microsoft has completely given up on.

    <https://www.bitchute.com/video/TdfF1yB68K8/?list=notifications&randomize=false>


    They've gone up-market a bit, and made some things for the dev community.


    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/10/microsoft-event-debuts-new-ai-friendly-hardware-and-windows-changes/

    Surface Laptop Ultra Nvidia RTX Spark SoC Starting price $2600 (24GB RAM
    model) [You'd want a more expensive one]

    RTX Spark Dev Box (Similar to GB10) Starting price $6000 (128GB RAM model) 273 to 300GB/sec bandwidth

    [273 was the original release GB10]

    [Slightly faster LPDDR5x are available]

    Memory bandwidth on devices:

    RTX Spark Dev Box ~300GB/sec (depends on what LPDDR5x ships in it)
    Some M5 box ~1200GB/sec (LPDDR5x on chiplet based, impact of interconnect unknown)
    RTX 6000 Pro ~1500GB/sec (GDDRxx type VRAM connected to one giant chip, this is "real" bandwidth)

    And each has correspondingly "golden shovel" pricing.

    So now these will crash and burn on bad monthly updates even faster? Whoopie.


    Why even bother with this hardware when it is STILL just running brain-dead Windows? Why don't they Give Up on Windows and use their existing Linux
    version in Azure? Steam has already proven that Windows software runs better on Linux.

    Not to mention that games are far more demanding than Word, Excel and PowerPoint. Will MS ever come out of the Dark Ages? To quote Edmund BlackAdder, "To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance was just something that
    happened to other people, wasn't it?"
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Oct 8 20:31:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 10/8/2026 5:13 PM, Nick Charles wrote:
    On Oct 8, 2026 at 1:09:56 PM EDT, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 10/8/2026 11:12 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Co-Pilot+ PCs are the latest thing Microsoft has completely given up on. >>>
    <https://www.bitchute.com/video/TdfF1yB68K8/?list=notifications&randomize=false>


    They've gone up-market a bit, and made some things for the dev community.


    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/10/microsoft-event-debuts-new-ai-friendly-hardware-and-windows-changes/

    Surface Laptop Ultra Nvidia RTX Spark SoC Starting price $2600 (24GB RAM
    model) [You'd want a more expensive one]

    RTX Spark Dev Box (Similar to GB10) Starting price $6000 (128GB >> RAM model) 273 to 300GB/sec bandwidth

    [273 was the original release GB10]

    [Slightly faster LPDDR5x are available]

    Memory bandwidth on devices:

    RTX Spark Dev Box ~300GB/sec (depends on what LPDDR5x ships in it) >> Some M5 box ~1200GB/sec (LPDDR5x on chiplet based, impact of
    interconnect unknown)
    RTX 6000 Pro ~1500GB/sec (GDDRxx type VRAM connected to one giant >> chip, this is "real" bandwidth)

    And each has correspondingly "golden shovel" pricing.

    So now these will crash and burn on bad monthly updates even faster? Whoopie.


    Why even bother with this hardware when it is STILL just running brain-dead Windows? Why don't they Give Up on Windows and use their existing Linux version in Azure? Steam has already proven that Windows software runs better on Linux.

    Not to mention that games are far more demanding than Word, Excel and PowerPoint. Will MS ever come out of the Dark Ages? To quote Edmund BlackAdder, "To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?"


    They're not priced for consumers, they're for entrepreneurs and devs
    to fight over. And those people will figure out if this means of
    getting RAM/VRAM is cheaper than whatever a competitor offers. It
    seems an awful risky gamble to me. A way to become poor in a hurry.

    Paul
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