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Vibe has created an alternative to Photoshop and released its source
code on GitHub. It is completely free, and a portable version is also available.

According to media reports, the developer, Vibe, has used AI to
replicate all Adobe products, so you just need to search for names such as:

*Craft

Replace '*' with the name of the relevant Adobe product to find the corresponding Vibe's product. The Photoshop replacement, for example, is called PhotoCraft:< https://getartcraft.com/apps/photocraft>.

To create and edit PDF files, follow this link: <https://getartcraft.com/apps/pdfcraft/>.

The full list of apps can be found here:

<https://getartcraft.com/apps/>.

I think these products are really useful. They're free for now, but you
can always make a contribution to stop the developer from selling his
business to big companies!


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MegaNZ wrote:

Vibe has created an alternative to Photoshop and released its source
code on GitHub. It is completely free, and a portable version is also available.

According to media reports, the developer, Vibe, has used AI to
replicate all Adobe products, so you just need to search for names such as:

*Craft

Replace '*' with the name of the relevant Adobe product to find the corresponding Vibe's product. The Photoshop replacement, for example, is called PhotoCraft:< https://getartcraft.com/apps/photocraft>.

To create and edit PDF files, follow this link: <https://getartcraft.com/apps/pdfcraft/>.

The full list of apps can be found here:

<https://getartcraft.com/apps/>.

I think these products are really useful. They're free for now, but you
can always make a contribution to stop the developer from selling his business to big companies!

Never heard of PhotoCraft freeware so I am interested what other people
think of that supposed free PhotoShop alternative app for Windows.
<https://getartcraft.com/apps/photocraft>

ArtCraft describes it as an open-source image editor written in Rust, with Photoshop-like layers, masks, adjustment layers, PSD/PSB support, etc.

PhotoCraft, VectorCraft, FilmCraft, LightCraft, PdfCraft, EffectCraft, and DesignCraft, corresponding roughly to Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, Lightroom, Acrobat, After Effects, and InDesign.

The AI wording in the OP is misleading, I think, as the developer describes these as clean-room implementations written from scratch in Rust, rather
than having AI copy Adobe's source code.

Years ago we discussed the "free" (long story on what that means) license:
<https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4948-adobe-creative-suite-free.html>

And often we've discussed Paint.NET & Pinta being photoshop replacements.
<https://www.pinta-project.com/>

But I've been using Paint.NET, despite the obnoxious .netframework.
<https://www.dotpdn.com/downloads/pdn.html>
<https://forums.paint.net/topic/134336-paintnet-5112-is-now-available/>
<https://github.com/paintdotnet/release/releases/tag/v5.1.12>
<https://github.com/paintdotnet/release/releases/download/v5.1.12/paint.net.5.1.12.portable.x64.zip>
Name: paint.net.5.1.12.portable.x64.zip
Size: 132009665 bytes (125 MiB)
SHA256: D5AE7043F2FB9D365B48DFE243A2ACA1C74924DE99B04B6445916C95354AEFA3

In summary, these are commonly considered PhotoShop free alternatives.
GIMP most powerful/free, but different workflow
Photopea closest Photoshop-like experience in a browser
Paint.NET excellent for Windows and much easier than GIMP
Pinta simpler still, good for basic editing
PhotoCraft interesting new project, but currently much less mature
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On Thu, 10/8/2026 6:08 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:

Never heard of PhotoCraft freeware so I am interested what other people
think of that supposed free PhotoShop alternative app for Windows.
<https://getartcraft.com/apps/photocraft>

ArtCraft describes it as an open-source image editor written in Rust, with Photoshop-like layers, masks, adjustment layers, PSD/PSB support, etc.

PhotoCraft, VectorCraft, FilmCraft, LightCraft, PdfCraft, EffectCraft, and DesignCraft, corresponding roughly to Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, Lightroom, Acrobat, After Effects, and InDesign.

The AI wording in the OP is misleading, I think, as the developer describes these as clean-room implementations written from scratch in Rust, rather
than having AI copy Adobe's source code.

It's not really a clean-room, when an LLM-AI is involved.

The LLM-AI is being used to "obfuscate the license on FOSS software".
A lot of FOSS software is in the training set. And the people scraping
github and putting that in the training set, have no idea, nor do they
care, which license is involved. With the distros for Linux, there are
ten classifications for licensing, and the package herders (build packages
and patch them) have to be aware of what license (or license(s)) apply
to a particular package.

If the stolen Adobe source code happens to be in an LLM-AI training set,
a forensic researcher may be able to figure this out and make it stick
in court.

These ideas eventually have to go to court, to establish criterion for
judging whether commercial software made this way... has any leg at
all to stand on. For example, if Adobe or Microsoft were using LLM-AI
to modify their product source code, they could be just as guilty and
goofy on concepts, as the guy running this project. The LLM-AI is
not a license to print money. Not until the courts have their say.

The LLM-AI does not "think", and a lot of the patterns in the code,
may be traceable to files in the training set. It's not a "laundry service".

Paul
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Paul wrote:

It's not really a clean-room, when an LLM-AI is involved.

The LLM-AI is being used to "obfuscate the license on FOSS software".
A lot of FOSS software is in the training set. And the people scraping
github and putting that in the training set, have no idea, nor do they
care, which license is involved. With the distros for Linux, there are
ten classifications for licensing, and the package herders (build packages and patch them) have to be aware of what license (or license(s)) apply
to a particular package.

If the stolen Adobe source code happens to be in an LLM-AI training set,
a forensic researcher may be able to figure this out and make it stick
in court.

These ideas eventually have to go to court, to establish criterion for judging whether commercial software made this way... has any leg at
all to stand on. For example, if Adobe or Microsoft were using LLM-AI
to modify their product source code, they could be just as guilty and
goofy on concepts, as the guy running this project. The LLM-AI is
not a license to print money. Not until the courts have their say.

The LLM-AI does not "think", and a lot of the patterns in the code,
may be traceable to files in the training set. It's not a "laundry service".

Looking it up, there's "some truth" to the AI-genesis matter, I guess:
*Opus-built Creative Cloud alternatives are ambitious, free, and nowhere near finished*
<https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/10/software-is-over-bold-ai-developer-takes-aim-at-adobe-with-open-source-clones/>

*Someone Rebuilt Free, Open-Source Versions of Photoshop, Premiere, and Lightroom Using AI*
<https://petapixel.com/2026/10/07/someone-rebuilt-free-open-source-versions-of-photoshop-premiere-and-lightroom-using-ai/>

There have always been cases of stolen software in the news, so if the
reputed "stolen" code is actually in the source code, it can't be hidden.

I'm sure Adobe is on this if the suspect there's a juicy lawsuit to file.
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Paul wrote:

If the stolen Adobe source code happens to be in an LLM-AI training set,
a forensic researcher may be able to figure this out and make it stick
in court.

Which Adobe products have had source code stolen/leaked?

I can see references to Acrobat, ColdFusion and Photoshop over a decade
ago, but the vibe-coded versions seem to include effectively everything
Adobe sell (or more accurately rent).

The links above seem to end-up at the "cloud" versions of the
adobe-suite equivalents

<https://app.getartcraft.com>

But they're available as installable binaries for Win/Mac/Linux

<https://github.com/orgs/storytold/repositories>

There's also a Spanish company doing vibe-coded equivalents of Sketchup/AutoCAD/Revit

<https://ingetrazo.com/en/>



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