• Re: Review of Doctor Who - Image of the Fendhal

    From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 09:25:38 2026
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    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:00:50 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might
    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar
    System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:21:54 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than 680
    years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:56:42 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where
    it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time
    Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he
    slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore
    this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the
    Time Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and
    carry the Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than 680
    years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:08:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in
    disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:09:58 2026
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    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >>> some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords >>> put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >>> light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >>> televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:11:32 2026
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    In article <10ueo0k$2dd28$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate
    their joy of child sexual molestation coverup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might
    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.

    Time lopp RTD and CC! Toss them into a supernova.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:12:45 2026
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    In article <10uep82$2do59$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than 680
    years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Forced to agree with Da there.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:19:13 2026
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    In article <10uer9d$2ebnu$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where
    it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time
    Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he
    slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore
    this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the
    Time Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and
    carry the Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than 680
    years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >approx 680 year to get here.

    Spot on!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 13:26:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in
    disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!) >>>

    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.
    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a circle of time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that. LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about

    Use above script for your defense.


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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 09:55:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:14:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in
    disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!) >>>>

    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >>> travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a circle of time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that. LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:26:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the
    very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of
    what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed
    to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the
    TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially
    given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which
    is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:39:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4474e4509bd68668989ebb@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    That is the way I view it.

    No way the Fendahl could be from outside the Slar System.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:50:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in
    disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!) >>>>>

    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >>>> travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >>>> approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about?
    DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy >> reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one. >>
    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that. >> LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get >> back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 16:52:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the
    very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed
    to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which
    is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and >O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 18:07:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume
    the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the
    very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of
    what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed
    to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the
    TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially
    given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which
    is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research. >>
    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 18:23:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they
    obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!) >>>>>>

    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor >>>> said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >>>>> travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >>>>> approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to
    his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? >>> DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy >>> reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one. >>>
    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? >>> DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get >>> back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way. >>>

    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was
    referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it,
    so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't
    have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 18:31:25 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >>>> some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it >>>> was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords >>>> put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would >>>> have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >>>> light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >>>> televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 14:09:01 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!


    That's a good case. I concede the point.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:16:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho


    The True Doctor wrote:

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?

    Well, I do... I think! However, I have given up wasting my time
    trying to discuss something sensible with somebody suffering
    from a mental retardation... on day release from a psych ward.

    It's like banging your head against a wall, over and over again.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 20:40:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho


    The True Doctor wrote:

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12
    million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how
    it formed?

    He won't need an online script for this one! It's all in his
    special book.

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar
    system came into being. I expect at least 100 words in
    paragraph form.

    Well, it'll probably start something like this:

    In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth...

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 22:43:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
     with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.  Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.
    --
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Mon May 18 17:51:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name. Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't
    necessarily the Solar system... but most people would probably say "star system" for others.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:36:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the
    very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >>> what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed
    to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said." >>>
    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the
    TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >>> given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which
    is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:40:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>>>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor >>>>> said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>>>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >>>>>> travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >>>>>> approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible >interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to
    his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? >>>> DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy >>>> reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one. >>>>
    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? >>>> DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a >circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get >>>> back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way. >>>>

    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was
    referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it,
    so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't >have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Older and fragments of a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:41:50 2026
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    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system >>>>>>> as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >>>>> some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it >>>>> was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords >>>>> put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would >>>>> have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >>>>> light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >>>>> televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:42:46 2026
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    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!


    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:43:11 2026
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    In article <xn0ppxkaiivajj1000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?

    Well, I do... I think! However, I have given up wasting my time
    trying to discuss something sensible with somebody suffering
    from a mental retardation... on day release from a psych ward.

    It's like banging your head against a wall, over and over again.

    That describes Idlehands.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:43:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0ppxkw5iw5tea002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12
    million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how
    it formed?

    He won't need an online script for this one! It's all in his
    special book.

    The explain the asteroid belt


    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar
    system came into being. I expect at least 100 words in
    paragraph form.

    Well, it'll probably start something like this:

    In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth...


    Yes just that you misspelled God.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:45:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their
    joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
     with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.  Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar
    System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.


    The Sun is a star.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 02:45:44 2026
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    In article <MPG.447553e946a38908989ec0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name. Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't >necessarily the Solar system... but most people would probably say "star >system" for others.


    Spot on correct.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:12:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 03:36, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the >>>> very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >>>> what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed >>>> to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said." >>>>
    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >>>> TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >>>> given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which >>>> is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    Do you have an O-Level or equivalent in English Language because it's
    clear you can't have scored anything in the comprehension or the essay
    papers?

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!


    No. From Gallifey's sun.

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,


    Did they not teach you the concept of orbits? You understand that Earth
    has one around the sun don't you? You can't specify that a planet was
    such and such a distance from Earth 12 million years ago. It could have
    been at double or triple that distance at any time. You understand how
    orbits work right? Besides which the system the Doctor was referring to
    was that of Gallifrey because he's referring to his own mythology. Learn
    some basic comprehension along with basic astronomy.

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.

    The Doctor is referring to his own mythology, the novelisation says 170 million miles FROM Gallifey's sun, and even still that is inside the
    distance of the Earth's asteroid belt even if it were in the Earth's
    system which it is NOT!
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:16:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as
    accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their
    joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the
    Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
     with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.  Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.


    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot?

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.


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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:28:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out >>>>>> some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it >>>>>> was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords >>>>>> put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would >>>>>> have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680 >>>>>> light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>>>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI
    chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to >>>>>> televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no
    way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly
    clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why
    would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:30:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 03:43, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0ppxkw5iw5tea002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12
    million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how
    it formed?

    He won't need an online script for this one! It's all in his
    special book.

    The explain the asteroid belt


    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar
    system came into being. I expect at least 100 words in
    paragraph form.

    Well, it'll probably start something like this:

    In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth...


    Yes just that you misspelled God.

    No he didn't. He mistranslated the Hebrew word Elohim which means THE
    GODS, plural.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:40:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than >>>>>>>> 680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor >>>>>> said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at >>>>>>>> the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take >>>>>>> approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible
    interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to
    his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? >>>>> DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet, >>>>> and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of
    Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit equidistant from each other.

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The
    Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? >>>>> DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets.
    That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a
    circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way. >>>>>

    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >>>> referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it,
    so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't
    have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and
    made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form
    a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.


    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year
    degree level.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:43:15 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>

    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating
    back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got
    angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet
    by placing it inside a time loop.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:48:24 2026
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    In article <10ugnvf$30ig4$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:36, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't
    actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the >>>>> very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >>>>> what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed >>>>> to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said." >>>>>
    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >>>>> TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >>>>> given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which >>>>> is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the >research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and >>>>> O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    Do you have an O-Level or equivalent in English Language because it's
    clear you can't have scored anything in the comprehension or the essay >papers?

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!


    No. From Gallifey's sun.

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,


    Did they not teach you the concept of orbits? You understand that Earth
    has one around the sun don't you? You can't specify that a planet was
    such and such a distance from Earth 12 million years ago. It could have
    been at double or triple that distance at any time. You understand how >orbits work right? Besides which the system the Doctor was referring to
    was that of Gallifrey because he's referring to his own mythology. Learn >some basic comprehension along with basic astronomy.

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.

    The Doctor is referring to his own mythology, the novelisation says 170 >million miles FROM Gallifey's sun, and even still that is inside the >distance of the Earth's asteroid belt even if it were in the Earth's
    system which it is NOT!


    He said 5th Planet. Did he explicit say which Galaxy?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:49:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ugo6m$30ig4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as >>>>>> accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their
    joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the >>>>>> Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue >>>>>>  with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.  Hmm! Interesting
    concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.


    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot?


    The point about Sol.

    because the 5th planet is still inside a time loop. One more reason
    why Chibnall's degenerate woke shit is not canon since the universe
    has still not been taken over by the Fendahl.

    Maybe this might have happened in Disney's now missing THIRD Season.






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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:51:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>>>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it >>>>>>> was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>>>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this
    precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>>>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>>>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would >>>>>>> have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it >>>>>>>> the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last >>> 12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no
    way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly
    clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet >outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why
    would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours.


    From the script

    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and dissipated slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate lifeform that came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into something suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:51:43 2026
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    In article <10ugp0b$30okn$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:43, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0ppxkw5iw5tea002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12
    million years old?

    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how
    it formed?

    He won't need an online script for this one! It's all in his
    special book.

    The explain the asteroid belt


    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar
    system came into being. I expect at least 100 words in
    paragraph form.

    Well, it'll probably start something like this:

    In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth...


    Yes just that you misspelled God.

    No he didn't. He mistranslated the Hebrew word Elohim which means THE
    GODS, plural.
    i

    El'ohim.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:53:24 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 05:48, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugnvf$30ig4$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:36, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>>>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't >>>>>>> actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the >>>>>> very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of >>>>>> what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed >>>>>> to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >>>>>> TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially >>>>>> given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which >>>>>> is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the
    research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and >>>>>> O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    Do you have an O-Level or equivalent in English Language because it's
    clear you can't have scored anything in the comprehension or the essay
    papers?

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!


    No. From Gallifey's sun.

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,


    Did they not teach you the concept of orbits? You understand that Earth
    has one around the sun don't you? You can't specify that a planet was
    such and such a distance from Earth 12 million years ago. It could have
    been at double or triple that distance at any time. You understand how
    orbits work right? Besides which the system the Doctor was referring to
    was that of Gallifrey because he's referring to his own mythology. Learn
    some basic comprehension along with basic astronomy.

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.

    The Doctor is referring to his own mythology, the novelisation says 170
    million miles FROM Gallifey's sun, and even still that is inside the
    distance of the Earth's asteroid belt even if it were in the Earth's
    system which it is NOT!


    He said 5th Planet. Did he explicit say which Galaxy?

    He explicitly said in the same sentence that he was referring to an
    event in his own people's mythology, therefore he is referring to the
    solar system that Gallifrey is in.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 04:56:48 2026
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    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry >>>>>>>>>> out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the >>>>>>>>>> planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable.

    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length
    of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor >>>>>>> said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible
    interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to
    his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    :-)

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about? >>>>>> DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet, >>>>>> and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>> Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere >inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit >equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The
    Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.




    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>>
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. >>>>>> That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to
    the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do.
    All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a
    circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord
    could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way. >>>>>>

    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about


    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >>>>> referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it,
    so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't >>> have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and >made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form
    a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.


    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year
    degree level.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:00:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ugpp4$30u25$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of
    Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet
    the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>

    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating
    back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got
    angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet
    by placing it inside a time loop.



    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build a spacecraft.
    How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. That could be a race memory. LEELA: Race memory?

    As for the angry, he should be grateful the
    Time Lords are protecting the universe.

    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 05:01:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ugqc5$3130p$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:48, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugnvf$30ig4$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:36, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufh0n$2lg7s$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:52, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufb42$2jfrg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:55, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uf41c$1gbg$9@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up


    Thanks for that. The script's handy to this.

    Sooo... they just say "the fifth planet." IMO it's intuitive to assume >>>>>>>> the fifth Solar planet, the former asteroid belt, but it doesn't >>>>>>>> actually say.


    NO IT IS NOT! The Doctor refers to his own Gallifreyan mythology in the >>>>>>> very same sentence therefore the ONLY possible logical interpretation of
    what he said is that he's referring to his own 5th plant.


    5th Planet of which system?

    "DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology. Supposed >>>>>>> to have perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said."

    He doesn't even mention a solar system until later when he's inside the >>>>>>> TARDIS and once again he's referring to his own solar system, especially
    given the the distance he states for the orbit of the 5th planet which >>>>>>> is around 1/3 closer to it's sun that than Mars is to ours. Do the
    research.

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and >>>>>>> O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?



    Advanced math here.

    Degree level here along with physics including astronomy.

    Now, what about your English Language?


    Before that.

    Do you have an O-Level or equivalent in English Language because it's
    clear you can't have scored anything in the comprehension or the essay
    papers?

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    107 000 000 miles from Earth!


    No. From Gallifey's sun.

    And give an AU is 93 000 000 miles,


    Did they not teach you the concept of orbits? You understand that Earth
    has one around the sun don't you? You can't specify that a planet was
    such and such a distance from Earth 12 million years ago. It could have
    been at double or triple that distance at any time. You understand how
    orbits work right? Besides which the system the Doctor was referring to
    was that of Gallifrey because he's referring to his own mythology. Learn >>> some basic comprehension along with basic astronomy.

    The 5th Planet would be slightly over 2 AUs (2 and 14/93 AUs)
    from the Sun.

    The Doctor is referring to his own mythology, the novelisation says 170
    million miles FROM Gallifey's sun, and even still that is inside the
    distance of the Earth's asteroid belt even if it were in the Earth's
    system which it is NOT!


    He said 5th Planet. Did he explicit say which Galaxy?

    He explicitly said in the same sentence that he was referring to an
    event in his own people's mythology, therefore he is referring to the
    solar system that Gallifrey is in.


    Yes mythology. But from where?

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:05:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 05:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >>>>>>>>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to >>>>>>>>>>> Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered >>>>>>>>>>> that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable. >>>>>>>>>>
    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length
    of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE >>>>>>>>>> year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you >>>>>>>> get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible
    interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to >>>> his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    :-)

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about?
    DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years, it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>>>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet, >>>>>>> and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive. Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>>> Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of
    Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    No it isn't. Do you think Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit
    equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?


    Min and max distances of what?

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The
    Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    Start point GALLIFREY'S SUN!



    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th >>>>>> planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>>>
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile >>>>>>> of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. >>>>>>> That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to >>>>>>> the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has
    her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing
    your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start
    one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do. >>>>>>> All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet.
    LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)

    Do you see any green swirling haze like that anywhere between Mars and
    Jupiter in the Earth's solar system? NO! There isn't any.

    That's because the time loop is NOT in Earth's solar system. It's in Gallifrey's solar system.
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a >>>> circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord
    could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about >>>>>>>

    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >>>>>> referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it, >>>> so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't >>>> have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old?

    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and
    made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form
    a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came
    into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.


    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year
    degree level.

    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:09:56 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 06:00, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpp4$30u25$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>> Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th
    planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>>

    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating
    back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got
    angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet
    by placing it inside a time loop.



    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build a spacecraft.
    How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak of astral projection,
    travelling psychically to different planets. That could be a race memory. LEELA: Race memory?

    And your point is what? That you know almost nothing about astronomy and
    have virtually no ability whatsoever in English comprehension?

    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that. Book yourself an
    adult education course and learn English Language.

    As for the angry, he should be grateful the
    Time Lords are protecting the universe.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:10:55 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 05:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugo6m$30ig4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as >>>>>>> accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their
    joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the >>>>>>> Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue >>>>>>>  with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.  Hmm! Interesting >>>>>>> concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't >>>>>> the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>>>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway. >>>>

    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot?


    The point about Sol.


    Which is? Were you in remedial class at school?
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:21:46 2026
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    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't> necessarily the Solar
    system... but most people would probably say "star
    system" for others.


    <<AI Overview solar system/ˈsəʊlə ˌsɪstɪm/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to
    it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids,
    comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic neighborhood—the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's
    referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:24:51 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 05:51, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew >>>>>>>> up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed >>>>>>>> the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this >>>>>>>> precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time >>>>>>>> Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the >>>>>>>> Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last >>>> 12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you
    about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of >>>> the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay
    about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no
    way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly
    clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet
    outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why
    would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours.


    From the script


    Answer my questions. Is English your first language? What language is?

    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and dissipated
    slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate lifeform that
    came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into something
    suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.
    So what? What is your point?

    Why the fuck am I talking to a pirmative AI chat both from the 1980s.
    --
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 06:11:59 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    Did you pass English Language?

    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.

    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    I wish I'd gone to that school.
    --
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 06:21:31 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that information anywhere.

    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 06:26:32 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ugqig$91l$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    I've poked at this a little more. Most external sources (e.g., The Discontinuity Guide) think this was the Solar System.

    Modern astronomers no longer believe that the Asteroid Belt is the
    remains of a single body, but it was a popular theory when Image of the Fendahl was written.

    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through
    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 06:31:04 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that.


    It isn't explicit. It's implied by the line about Gallifreyan folklore,
    but it's never said explicitly.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 06:37:15 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    <<AI Overview solar system/'s??l? ?s?st?m/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to
    it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids, comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic neighborhood?the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.

    You're assuming the writers and editor understood the capitalization and
    its meaning. Unfortunately, that's not a safe assumption.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 06:44:04 2026
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    Verily, in article <MPG.447603b711858e46989ec2@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that information anywhere.

    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.

    Wait wait waaaaaaaait a minute. Gallifrey's sun is a binary pair, isn't
    it?

    https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Gallifrey#Star_system

    Gallifrey probably orbits the larger red one.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 21:18:37 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think I even passed
    Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I think) compares
    to our Years Eleven and Twelve..
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 21:37:49 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 12:40 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system
    of Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    Where do you imply that?

    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other
    possible interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey
    referring to his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth
    planet.

    Did you pass English Language?

    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.

    Galaxy not determined until

    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're
    talking about? DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived
    twelve million years, it's energy reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the
    fifth planet broke up. There are four thousand million people
    here on your planet, and if I'm right, within a year there'll
    be just one left alive. Just one. ...

    [Tardis]

    (In flight.) DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven
    million miles out and twelve million years back, so we've no
    time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the
    system of Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar
    system and is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.

    Roughly speaking at their nearest .... extending to approx 235,000,000
    miles at their most distant.

    What about Jupiter?

    What about it, Asswipe??

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.

    Wacko!! The Asswipes' computer has a calculator on it.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 21:51:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 8:44 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.447603b711858e46989ec2@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.

    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that
    information anywhere.

    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've
    visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.

    Wait wait waaaaaaaait a minute. Gallifrey's sun is a binary pair, isn't
    it?

    https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Gallifrey#Star_system

    Gallifrey probably orbits the larger red one.

    From that web page ....

    Quote
    Gallifrey was in a binary star system. The second star seemed to rise in
    the East in the morning, making the mountains glow, (TV: Gridlock) and
    both set in the South. (PROSE: The Bloodletters) The main star was large
    and golden red. (AUDIO: The Forever Trap) The Monk believed that the
    Homeworld had not originally been part of a binary system, but had been retroactively engineered into one by He-of-Many-Epithets as a precaution during the war against the vampires: the interaction of the orbital
    patterns of the two suns created a shifting "interference pattern" in
    the daylight which meant that even vampires resistant to ordinary
    sunlight could not walk on the Homeworld without burning. Because of
    these "mad orbital mechanics", the planet had "an unconventional
    day-night terminator": as the Monk put it, "the region in darkness
    [shrank] like an iris and close[d] like a fist". (PROSE: The Bloodletters)
    End Quote

    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    And Vampires!! When have we ever heard of Vampires on Gallifrey?? Is
    THAT what makes The Time Lords so different to the ordinary Gallifreyans??
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 07:59:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!


    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 22:06:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 7:43 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    If the Gallifreyans had, at some time, spoked Latin, then, Yes, they
    might have called their STAR Sol and (but which one ... if they are in a Binary Star system??), therefore, Gallifrey would be in a Solar System
    .... but what would the chances of THAT having occurred be?

    Long Odds, I might suggest!!

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar
    System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.

    "Interchangeable" .... if you don't care for ACCURACY!! (O.K., I have
    been called a Pedant at times!)
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 22:21:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a Headlight??

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 22:32:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.

    Ah!! So there ARE Vampires on Gallifrey, are there?
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 08:45:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    The stars are orbiting a common barycenter, but what about Gallifrey? It
    could be orbiting the pair or directly orbiting the larger one.

    Gallifrey's system is a pretty dangerous place -- Morbius on the third
    planet, crazy Time Lords on the fourth, and (maybe) these archonic
    creatures on the fifth.


    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.

    Ah!! So there ARE Vampires on Gallifrey, are there?

    They're not on Gallifrey. If you haven't seen it, wait and be surprised.
    :-)
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 13:44:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uguiv$320uo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >>>>>>>>>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable. >>>>>>>>>>>
    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle >>>>>>>>>>> was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot
    longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length
    of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was >travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a >vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it
    would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said. >>>>>>>
    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of >>>>>>> Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible
    interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to >>>>> his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    :-)

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about?
    DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years,
    it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet >>>>>>>> broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet, >>>>>>>> and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive.
    Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>>>> Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    No it isn't. Do you think Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    Do you recall end of Time?


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit
    equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?


    Min and max distances of what?


    Between the 2 planets.

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The
    Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    Start point GALLIFREY'S SUN!


    Why?

    107 000 000 miles from where?



    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th >>>>>>> planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the
    fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile >>>>>>>> of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. >>>>>>>> That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to >>>>>>>> the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has >>>>>>>> her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing >>>>>>>> your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start >>>>>>>> one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.)
    LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do. >>>>>>>> All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.)
    DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet. >>>>>>>> LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)

    Do you see any green swirling haze like that anywhere between Mars and >Jupiter in the Earth's solar system? NO! There isn't any.


    So? IT was seen from inside the TARDIS.

    That's because the time loop is NOT in Earth's solar system. It's in >Gallifrey's solar system.
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a >>>>> circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord
    could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd >better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about >>>>>>>>

    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was >>>>>>> referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it, >>>>> so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't >>>>> have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old? >>>>
    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and >>> made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form >>> a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came >>>>> into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.


    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year
    degree level.



    It is a start point.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 13:45:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 06:00, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpp4$30u25$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said.

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of
    Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>>> Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and >>>>>> is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th >>>>>> planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY! >>>>>>

    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating
    back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got
    angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet
    by placing it inside a time loop.



    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build a spacecraft.
    How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak of astral projection,
    travelling psychically to different planets. That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?

    And your point is what? That you know almost nothing about astronomy and >have virtually no ability whatsoever in English comprehension?

    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that.

    Is he? IF so, explain your point by scrutinizing the script.

    Book yourself an
    adult education course and learn English Language.

    As for the angry, he should be grateful the
    Time Lords are protecting the universe.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 13:46:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ugutg$322sq$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugo6m$30ig4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as >>>>>>>> accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their >>>>>> joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the >>>>>>>> Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue >>>>>>>>  with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.  Hmm! Interesting >>>>>>>> concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>> system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so >>>>>>> even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't >>>>>>> the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it >>>>>>> wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the >>>>>> Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>>>>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway. >>>>>

    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot?


    The point about Sol.


    Which is? Were you in remedial class at school?


    Melissa is talking about Solar Syatems.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 13:48:15 2026
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    In article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.


    What about Latin?

    Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't> necessarily the Solar
    system... but most people would probably say "star
    system" for others.


    <<AI Overview solar system/ˈsəʊlə ˌsɪstɪm/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to
    it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids, >comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic >neighborhood—the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's >referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.


    Which pages?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:02:45 2026
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    In article <10ugvnl$32813$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:51, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the
    same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to
    carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the
    Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this >>>>>>>>> precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth >>>>>>>>>> planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical >>>>>>>>> difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in >either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own.


    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last >>>>> 12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000
    years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from
    primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you >>>>> about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of >>>>> the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay >>>>> about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no >>> way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly
    clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet >>> outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why
    would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours.


    From the script


    Answer my questions. Is English your first language? What language is?

    British English, then Canadian English the Quebec French .

    Est 1988 in Rimouski.


    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was >> this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and dissipated
    slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate lifeform that
    came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into something
    suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.
    So what? What is your point?

    Why am I talking to a pirmative AI chat both from the 1980s.


    REcall how DW see Evolution from Earth's Point of views.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:03:19 2026
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    In article <MPG.4476017777b90bf3989ec1@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    Did you pass English Language?

    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.

    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    I wish I'd gone to that school.


    The Myth Makers novel is a grammarian's dream.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:03:59 2026
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    In article <MPG.447603b711858e46989ec2@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of
    Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that >information anywhere.

    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've >visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.


    Spot on correct.

    and in the 1996 TVm, the Doctor does desribe where the star is.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:04:39 2026
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    In article <MPG.447604e89866c9e5989ec3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugqig$91l$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    I've poked at this a little more. Most external sources (e.g., The >Discontinuity Guide) think this was the Solar System.

    Modern astronomers no longer believe that the Asteroid Belt is the
    remains of a single body, but it was a popular theory when Image of the >Fendahl was written.

    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through
    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.


    The Fendahl is death.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:05:23 2026
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    In article <MPG.447605f25107cb42989ec4@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that.


    It isn't explicit. It's implied by the line about Gallifreyan folklore,
    but it's never said explicitly.


    100% Correct.

    I have been here since Feb 1991. Never have I seen
    such an interest debate.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:05:52 2026
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    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    Correct! The basis of Scientific Genus.


    <<AI Overview solar system/'s??l? ?s?st?m/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to
    it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids,
    comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic
    neighborhood?the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's
    referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.

    You're assuming the writers and editor understood the capitalization and
    its meaning. Unfortunately, that's not a safe assumption.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:06:25 2026
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    In article <MPG.447609047d2dd661989ec6@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.447603b711858e46989ec2@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >> > Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that
    information anywhere.

    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've
    visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.

    Wait wait waaaaaaaait a minute. Gallifrey's sun is a binary pair, isn't
    it?

    https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Gallifrey#Star_system

    Gallifrey probably orbits the larger red one.


    So what about that second star?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:12:01 2026
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    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think I even passed
    Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I think) compares
    to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14 -15 years
    old getting tested
    I.E. Aust Year 9 .

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:15:41 2026
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    In article <10uhi2g$37fq5$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 12:40 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system
    of Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    Where do you imply that?

    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other
    possible interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey
    referring to his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth
    planet.

    Did you pass English Language?

    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.

    Galaxy not determined until

    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're
    talking about? DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived
    twelve million years, it's energy reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the
    fifth planet broke up. There are four thousand million people
    here on your planet, and if I'm right, within a year there'll
    be just one left alive. Just one. ...

    [Tardis]

    (In flight.) DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven
    million miles out and twelve million years back, so we've no
    time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the
    system of Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar
    system and is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.

    Roughly speaking at their nearest .... extending to approx 235,000,000
    miles at their most distant.

    What about Jupiter?

    What about it, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy
    of child sexual molestation coverup)??

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.

    Wacko!! The Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy
    of child sexual molestation coverup)s' computer has a calculator on it.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:17:38 2026
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    In article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 8:44 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.447603b711858e46989ec2@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere >>>> inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.

    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that
    information anywhere.

    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've
    visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.

    Wait wait waaaaaaaait a minute. Gallifrey's sun is a binary pair, isn't
    it?

    https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Gallifrey#Star_system

    Gallifrey probably orbits the larger red one.

    From that web page ....

    Quote
    Gallifrey was in a binary star system. The second star seemed to rise in
    the East in the morning, making the mountains glow, (TV: Gridlock) and
    both set in the South. (PROSE: The Bloodletters) The main star was large
    and golden red. (AUDIO: The Forever Trap) The Monk believed that the >Homeworld had not originally been part of a binary system, but had been >retroactively engineered into one by He-of-Many-Epithets as a precaution >during the war against the vampires: the interaction of the orbital
    patterns of the two suns created a shifting "interference pattern" in
    the daylight which meant that even vampires resistant to ordinary
    sunlight could not walk on the Homeworld without burning. Because of
    these "mad orbital mechanics", the planet had "an unconventional
    day-night terminator": as the Monk put it, "the region in darkness
    [shrank] like an iris and close[d] like a fist". (PROSE: The Bloodletters) >End Quote

    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    And Vampires!! When have we ever heard of Vampires on Gallifrey?? Is
    THAT what makes The Time Lords so different to the ordinary Gallifreyans??

    Vampires were enemies of Gallifrey.

    TIme Lords can regenerate. Ordinary people cannot regenate!

    And do get me started about the Chibnal perversino
    of regenerating cyberGallifreyans.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:17:58 2026
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    In article <MPG.44761ab6d9078f01989eca@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in the South!! >>
    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!


    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.


    Very logical.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:18:51 2026
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    In article <10uhjnn$3807o$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 7:43 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    If the Gallifreyans had, at some time, spoked Latin, then, Yes, they
    might have called their STAR Sol and (but which one ... if they are in a >Binary Star system??), therefore, Gallifrey would be in a Solar System
    .... but what would the chances of THAT having occurred be?

    Long Odds, I might suggest!!


    Like 1000000 to 1?

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.

    "Interchangeable" .... if you don't care for ACCURACY!! (O.K., I have
    been called a Pedant at times!)

    Oh! WEll!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:20:28 2026
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    In article <10uhkks$389j1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a >Headlight??


    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    Or is AGA that ground that he thinks the 5th Planet is a fifth
    planet around the Gallifrey System?


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:22:46 2026
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    In article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    What about the 4 PRotoStars in the Solar System?


    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.

    Ah!! So there ARE Vampires on Gallifrey, are there?

    Not according State of Decay.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 14:23:56 2026
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    In article <MPG.447625618df702dc989ecb@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    The stars are orbiting a common barycenter, but what about Gallifrey? It >could be orbiting the pair or directly orbiting the larger one.

    Gallifrey's system is a pretty dangerous place -- Morbius on the third >planet, crazy Time Lords on the fourth, and (maybe) these archonic
    creatures on the fifth.


    Remind id Karn is the same Solar System as Gallifrey.


    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.

    Ah!! So there ARE Vampires on Gallifrey, are there?

    They're not on Gallifrey. If you haven't seen it, wait and be surprised.
    :-)


    State of Decay!

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:00:22 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 15:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugvnl$32813$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:51, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the
    same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to
    carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the
    Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this >>>>>>>>>> precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in
    either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own. >>>>>>>>>>

    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last >>>>>> 12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at
    school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000 >>>>>> years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from >>>>>> primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you >>>>>> about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of >>>>>> the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay >>>>>> about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no >>>> way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly
    clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet >>>> outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why >>>> would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours. >>>>

    From the script


    Answer my questions. Is English your first language? What language is?

    British English, then Canadian English the Quebec French .

    Est 1988 in Rimouski.


    What does that mean? That you've only spoken English since 1988? It figures.


    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was >>> this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and dissipated
    slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate lifeform that
    came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into something
    suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.
    So what? What is your point?

    Why am I talking to a pirmative AI chat both from the 1980s.


    REcall how DW see Evolution from Earth's Point of views.

    And your point is what? That you're totally incapable of explaining
    anything to anyone...?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:08:49 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 14:44, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uguiv$320uo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >>>>>>>>>>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all >>>>>>>>>>>>> hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid >>>>>>>>>>>>> belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it >>>>>>>>>>>>> would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot
    longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length
    of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a
    vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it
    would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light. >>>>>>>>>>

    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said. >>>>>>>>
    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of >>>>>>>> Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible >>>>>> interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to >>>>>> his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    :-)

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're talking about?
    DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years,
    it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet, >>>>>>>>> and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive.
    Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles >>>>>>>>> out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>>>>> Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere >>>> inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    No it isn't. Do you think Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    Do you recall end of Time?


    No. Why do you think that Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit
    equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?


    Min and max distances of what?


    Between the 2 planets.


    And your point is what?

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The
    Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    Start point GALLIFREY'S SUN!


    Why?

    107 000 000 miles from where?


    Did you understand what I told you earlier? How can a 5th planet be
    closer to the sun than the 4th planet Mars? The Doctor isn't referring
    to Earth's solar system, he's referring to Gallifrey's.



    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th >>>>>>>> planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the
    fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build
    a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile >>>>>>>>> of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. >>>>>>>>> That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to >>>>>>>>> the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has >>>>>>>>> her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing >>>>>>>>> your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start >>>>>>>>> one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move.
    Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.) >>>>>>>>> LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very
    meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do. >>>>>>>>> All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.) >>>>>>>>> DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet. >>>>>>>>> LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)

    Do you see any green swirling haze like that anywhere between Mars and
    Jupiter in the Earth's solar system? NO! There isn't any.


    So? IT was seen from inside the TARDIS.


    What difference does that make? There's no green haze between Mars and Jupiter.

    That's because the time loop is NOT in Earth's solar system. It's in
    Gallifrey's solar system.
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a >>>>>> circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord
    could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd
    better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about >>>>>>>>>

    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was
    referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English
    comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it, >>>>>> so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't >>>>>> have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old? >>>>>
    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and >>>> made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form >>>> a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed?

    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came >>>>>> into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13.


    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year
    degree level.



    It is a start point.

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 11:10:05 2026
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    Verily, in article <10uhrnm$27h4$16@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon >doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    If the barycenter is inside Earth, then as I understand it, the moon
    does orbit Earth. It's when the barycenter is outside that we say they
    orbit each other. Pluton and Charon are a classic example, with the
    barycenter inside neither.

    I love how we talk about all kinds of things in this group. I guess
    that's one of the great parts about a show like Doctor Who. We can dive
    deep into history, astronomy, mythology, and a whole lot of other
    things.


    What about the 4 PRotoStars in the Solar System?

    What about them?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 15:30:59 2026
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    In article <10uhtu6$3bau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugvnl$32813$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:51, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >>>>>>>>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the
    same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to
    carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>>>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the
    Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so
    he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this >>>>>>>>>>> precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since
    the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and
    carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager
    1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of
    us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The >>>>>>>>>>> Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in
    either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own. >>>>>>>>>>>

    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at >>>>>>> school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000 >>>>>>> years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from >>>>>>> primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you >>>>>>> about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of >>>>>>> the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay >>>>>>> about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no >>>>> way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly >>>>> clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet >>>>> outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why >>>>> would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours. >>>>>

    From the script


    Answer my questions. Is English your first language? What language is?

    British English, then Canadian English the Quebec French .

    Est 1988 in Rimouski.


    What does that mean? That you've only spoken English since 1988? It figures.


    No! read again!


    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was >>>> this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and >dissipated
    slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate
    lifeform that
    came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into >something
    suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.
    So what? What is your point?

    Why am I talking to a pirmative AI chat both from the 1980s.


    REcall how DW see Evolution from Earth's Point of views.

    And your point is what? That you're totally incapable of explaining
    anything to anyone...?


    Egads.

    what about the Jageroth and the Fendahl?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 15:32:57 2026
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    In article <10uhue1$3bhgn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 14:44, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uguiv$320uo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:40, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufhtl$2lqjh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 17:50, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uevgf$2flbd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 8:21 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 4:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?

    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the
    TARDIS to carry
    out some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time
    Lord nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which blew up 12 million years ago and sent the skull
    flying off to
    Earth where it was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor >discovered
    that the Time Lords put the planet in a time loop and kept it all
    hushed up, so he slammed the data cards on the TARDIS console in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disgust. Therefore this precludes it forming any kind of asteroid
    belt anywhere since the Time Lords did not want any
    fragments of the
    planet to escape and carry the Fendahl away with them. But they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously missed one.

    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager 1 it
    would have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gallifrey is 680 light years away which sounds reasonable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No it doesn't!!

    Sorry!! WHAT?? If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle
    was travelling at 17.0 km/s, it would take a HELL of a lot
    longer than
    680 years to reach Earth (like about 17,500 times that length >>>>> of time!!)


    Where the hell did I say it would take it 680 years?

    I said it took it 12 million years to reach Earth. Or rather
    the Doctor
    said it took it that long.

    If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a vehicle was
    travelling at
    the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it would take
    approx ONE
    year to get here.

    Error!! Error!! If Gallifrey *IS* 680 Light Years away and a
    vehicle was
    travelling at the speed of light (approx 300,000 Km/sec), it
    would take
    approx 680 year to get here.

    Now multiply that by 300,000/17 ie. 17,647.05882352941 and
    what do you
    get? 12,000,000 years at 1/17,647.05882352941 of the speed of light.


    All right some context coming up

    DOCTOR: They look like embryo Fendahleen to me.
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said. >>>>>>>>>
    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of >>>>>>>>> Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.


    Where do you imply that?


    It's explicit from what the Doctor said. There is no other possible >>>>>>> interpretation. He's a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey referring to >>>>>>> his own Gallifreyan mythology, therefore his own fifth planet.

    Did you pass English Language?


    Yes Gallifreyan mythology.


    You passed Gallifeyan mythology? I don't remember that being in the
    English syllabus.


    :-)

    Galaxy not determined until


    COLBY: A creature from mythology? Do you know what you're
    talking about?
    DOCTOR: Well, you saw it. If it survived twelve million years,
    it's energy
    reserves must be enormous.
    COLBY: Twelve million? Why did you say twelve million?
    DOCTOR: What? Well, about twelve million. That's when the fifth planet
    broke up. There are four thousand million people here on your planet,
    and if I'm right, within a year there'll be just one left alive.
    Just one.

    ...


    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles >>>>>>>>>> out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose. >>>>>>>>>
    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>>>>>> Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere >>>>> inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>>>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    No it isn't. Do you think Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    Do you recall end of Time?


    No. Why do you think that Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    I said bigger than Earth.


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar
    system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit >>>>> equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?


    Min and max distances of what?


    Between the 2 planets.


    And your point is what?


    Where is the starting point?

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The >>>>> Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    Start point GALLIFREY'S SUN!


    Why?

    107 000 000 miles from where?


    Did you understand what I told you earlier? How can a 5th planet be
    closer to the sun than the 4th planet Mars? The Doctor isn't referring
    to Earth's solar system, he's referring to Gallifrey's.


    The Starting point is Earth, not the sun.



    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th >>>>>>>>> planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>>>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of >GALLIFREY!

    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the
    fifth planet?
    DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build >>>>>>>>>> a spacecraft. How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile >>>>>>>>>> of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak
    of astral projection, travelling psychically to different planets. >>>>>>>>>> That could be a race memory.
    LEELA: Race memory?
    DOCTOR: Yes. You see, sometimes people dream they've been
    to other places. It's, er, deja vu. No?
    (On Earth, Tyler watches a white van come up the gravel drive to >>>>>>>>>> the main house. Ted Moss and three other men get out.
    Leela is sleeping on the console room floor. She wakes and has >>>>>>>>>> her knife ready when the Doctor enters.)
    DOCTOR: No, no, no. Put it away, put it away. It's a good thing >>>>>>>>>> your tribe never developed guns. They'd have woken with a start >>>>>>>>>> one morning and wiped themselves out.
    LEELA: There was something chasing me. I, I couldn't move. >>>>>>>>>> Just a dream, I suppose.
    (The Doctor breaks the three plastic cards he was carrying.) >>>>>>>>>> LEELA: Hey, what's wrong?
    DOCTOR: I've been checking the old data banks.
    There's no record at all of a fifth planet.
    LEELA: Does that matter?
    DOCTOR: Well of course it matters! We Time Lords are a very >>>>>>>>>> meticulous people. You have to be when you live as long as we do. >>>>>>>>>> All information is recorded.
    LEELA: Perhaps there wasn't any.
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Information.
    DOCTOR: What?
    (He switches on the scanner. The view is green and swirling.) >>>>>>>>>> DOCTOR: Of course. That's why there's no record of the planet. >>>>>>>>>> LEELA: Why?
    DOCTOR: That impression's produced by a time loop.
    (Lights are flashing red and yellow on the console.)

    Do you see any green swirling haze like that anywhere between Mars and
    Jupiter in the Earth's solar system? NO! There isn't any.


    So? IT was seen from inside the TARDIS.


    What difference does that make? There's no green haze between Mars and >Jupiter.


    The same will be seen if anyone tries to access Axos.

    That's because the time loop is NOT in Earth's solar system. It's in
    Gallifrey's solar system.
    LEELA: Time loop?
    DOCTOR: Yes, a time loop. All memory of a planet's been erased by a >>>>>>> circle of
    time, making data and its records invisible. Only a Time Lord
    could do that.
    LEELA: That's very clever.
    DOCTOR: That's criminal! We've been on a wild goose chase. We'd
    better get
    back. Let's hope we're not too far round that time loop.
    LEELA: Is there anything I can do?
    DOCTOR: Yes. No, no. I'll just set the coordinates and we're
    on our way.


    So what 5th Planet in a Gallifreyan system are you talking about >>>>>>>>>>

    The 5th planer the blew up 12 million years ago. The one the Doctor was
    referring it.

    Use above script for your defense.

    Does anyone around here have any basic skill in both English >>>>>>>>> comprehension and mathematics?


    Add astonomy.

    You can't even spell astronomy correctly and you don't even realise it, >>>>>>> so why should I believe you when with your level of English you wouldn't
    have been able to write a dissertation.

    Do you seriously think the asteroid belt is only 12 million years old? >>>>>>
    Older and fragments of a planet.


    That is not the commonly accepted theory. It's 4.6 billion years old and >>>>> made from objects that clumped together which were no sufficient to form >>>>> a planet.


    Did they not teach you how old it actually is and how it formed? >>>>>>>
    Do you want to explain that to me? Explain how the solar system came >>>>>>> into being. I expect at least 100 words in paragraph form.


    Astronony is a Grade 7 unit. Grade 7 in Canada isusually 12 to 13. >>>>>>

    Oh, so this is secondary school astronomy. I studied it at third year >>>>> degree level.



    It is a start point.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 15:34:06 2026
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    In article <MPG.4476475be19b1427989ece@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhrnm$27h4$16@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    If the barycenter is inside Earth, then as I understand it, the moon
    does orbit Earth. It's when the barycenter is outside that we say they
    orbit each other. Pluton and Charon are a classic example, with the >barycenter inside neither.

    I love how we talk about all kinds of things in this group. I guess
    that's one of the great parts about a show like Doctor Who. We can dive
    deep into history, astronomy, mythology, and a whole lot of other
    things.


    What about the 4 PRotoStars in the Solar System?

    What about them?


    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:41:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 11:26, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugqig$91l$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    I've poked at this a little more. Most external sources (e.g., The Discontinuity Guide) think this was the Solar System.


    And they are all wrong. Keith Topping is probably the source of this
    mistaken belief since the early to mid 90s when The Discontinuity Guide
    was published, and his sources mostly came from usenet posts. I should
    be entitled to a refund of what I paid for it.

    Modern astronomers no longer believe that the Asteroid Belt is the
    remains of a single body, but it was a popular theory when Image of the Fendahl was written.

    It was never the popular belief even at the time of Image of the
    Fendahl. The standard theory was that electrostatic forces caused
    particles to come together and form larger bodies which eventually grew
    large enough to be attracted together by gravity as the dominantly force gathering around them everything in their wake until they all coalesced
    and formed into planets clearing up everything in the region in which
    they orbited. The asteroid belt failed to do this due to the influence
    of Jupiter's gravity. This all occurred 4.6 billion years ago, not 12
    million years ago. Gravity would have brought all of the remnants of any subsequent collision back together again.

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.


    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through

    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.

    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left. They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:47:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 16:32, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhue1$3bhgn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 14:44, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uguiv$320uo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere >>>>>> inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>>>>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    No it isn't. Do you think Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    Do you recall end of Time?


    No. Why do you think that Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    I said bigger than Earth.


    You said, 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth. Do you realise that that is
    bigger than the sun?


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar
    system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit >>>>>> equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?


    Min and max distances of what?


    Between the 2 planets.


    And your point is what?


    Where is the starting point?


    The centre of gravity of the entire system.

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The >>>>>> Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    Start point GALLIFREY'S SUN!


    Why?

    107 000 000 miles from where?


    Did you understand what I told you earlier? How can a 5th planet be
    closer to the sun than the 4th planet Mars? The Doctor isn't referring
    to Earth's solar system, he's referring to Gallifrey's.


    The Starting point is Earth, not the sun.

    No isn't. Do you understand how orbits work? Did you pass English
    Language comprehension?

    The reference point is Gallifrey's sun.

    Do you see any green swirling haze like that anywhere between Mars and >>>> Jupiter in the Earth's solar system? NO! There isn't any.


    So? IT was seen from inside the TARDIS.


    What difference does that make? There's no green haze between Mars and
    Jupiter.


    The same will be seen if anyone tries to access Axos.


    Of what relevance is that? There's no green haze between Mars and Jupiter.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 11:51:47 2026
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    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called "failed
    stars," though the only failure is not attracting enough matter.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:02:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:26, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugqig$91l$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    I've poked at this a little more. Most external sources (e.g., The
    Discontinuity Guide) think this was the Solar System.


    And they are all wrong. Keith Topping is probably the source of this >mistaken belief since the early to mid 90s when The Discontinuity Guide
    was published, and his sources mostly came from usenet posts. I should
    be entitled to a refund of what I paid for it.


    I am trying to recall when in the 1990s.

    Modern astronomers no longer believe that the Asteroid Belt is the
    remains of a single body, but it was a popular theory when Image of the
    Fendahl was written.

    It was never the popular belief even at the time of Image of the
    Fendahl. The standard theory was that electrostatic forces caused
    particles to come together and form larger bodies which eventually grew >large enough to be attracted together by gravity as the dominantly force >gathering around them everything in their wake until they all coalesced
    and formed into planets clearing up everything in the region in which
    they orbited. The asteroid belt failed to do this due to the influence
    of Jupiter's gravity. This all occurred 4.6 billion years ago, not 12 >million years ago. Gravity would have brought all of the remnants of any >subsequent collision back together again.

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming >asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.


    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through

    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.


    5th Pleant in which Solar System?

    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left. They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:04:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ui0ln$3c9cb$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 16:32, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhue1$3bhgn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 14:44, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uguiv$320uo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Gallifrey.

    How far is Gallifrey from its star?


    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere >>>>>>> inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of
    Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Recall Gallifrey is 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth.


    No it isn't. Do you think Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    Do you recall end of Time?


    No. Why do you think that Gallifrey is bigger than the sun?


    I said bigger than Earth.


    You said, 100x to 1000x bigger than Earth. Do you realise that that is >bigger than the sun?


    What do you recall of End of Time?

    I recall Timothy Dalton as Rassilon.


    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar
    system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    49 000 000 miles from Earth.


    Wrong. The Earth moves in an orbit and so does Mars. The do not orbit >>>>>>> equidistant from each other.


    What about min and max distances then?


    Min and max distances of what?


    Between the 2 planets.


    And your point is what?


    Where is the starting point?


    The centre of gravity of the entire system.


    What is?

    What about Jupiter?

    And (142/93) AIs is 1.52688172043010752688 AUs.


    So what? The Fendahl came from Gallifrey's solar system not ours. The >>>>>>> Doctor makes that abundantly clear.


    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    Start point GALLIFREY'S SUN!


    Why?

    107 000 000 miles from where?


    Did you understand what I told you earlier? How can a 5th planet be
    closer to the sun than the 4th planet Mars? The Doctor isn't referring
    to Earth's solar system, he's referring to Gallifrey's.


    The Starting point is Earth, not the sun.

    No isn't. Do you understand how orbits work? Did you pass English
    Language comprehension?

    The reference point is Gallifrey's sun.


    12 million years back in time
    and 107 million miles as they take off from Earth?

    Do you see any green swirling haze like that anywhere between Mars and >>>>> Jupiter in the Earth's solar system? NO! There isn't any.


    So? IT was seen from inside the TARDIS.


    What difference does that make? There's no green haze between Mars and
    Jupiter.


    The same will be seen if anyone tries to access Axos.


    Of what relevance is that? There's no green haze between Mars and Jupiter.


    So where as Axos Time Looped?

    Also Time Loop was first established in the end of The War Games.



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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:07:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called "failed
    stars," though the only failure is not attracting enough matter.


    Of course that could change.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 12:13:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.


    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through

    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.

    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left. They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you don't eat
    your green beans, they might come to Gallifrey and get you. That's all
    the logic a bogeyman needs, and it works just as well for a planet in
    the same system or one from a different system.

    Wherever they first came from, they're scary.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 17:14:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 11:21, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of
    Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that information anywhere.

    By the look of The Five Doctor's it's just gone off the main sequence,
    then again that was depicting the Phantom Zone or whatever they called
    the sand pit they used to film it.


    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.


    They put a purple filter on top of the camera lens in The Five Doctors.
    I can't remember what they did in The Invasion of Time but we'll find
    out in 3 stories' time. I remember the trees and grass being green and
    there were no stupid deserts outside the citadel like the degenerate
    Davies depicted Gallifrey after the Time War.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 17:19:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 17:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:26, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugqig$91l$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    I've poked at this a little more. Most external sources (e.g., The
    Discontinuity Guide) think this was the Solar System.


    And they are all wrong. Keith Topping is probably the source of this
    mistaken belief since the early to mid 90s when The Discontinuity Guide
    was published, and his sources mostly came from usenet posts. I should
    be entitled to a refund of what I paid for it.


    I am trying to recall when in the 1990s.


    I could look on the back cover but I'm not going to waste my time and
    get covered in dust in the process. It might have several editions. They should provide me with a digital upgrade in epub format to put on my
    ereaders. The same for my Fourth Doctor Handbook.

    Modern astronomers no longer believe that the Asteroid Belt is the
    remains of a single body, but it was a popular theory when Image of the
    Fendahl was written.

    It was never the popular belief even at the time of Image of the
    Fendahl. The standard theory was that electrostatic forces caused
    particles to come together and form larger bodies which eventually grew
    large enough to be attracted together by gravity as the dominantly force
    gathering around them everything in their wake until they all coalesced
    and formed into planets clearing up everything in the region in which
    they orbited. The asteroid belt failed to do this due to the influence
    of Jupiter's gravity. This all occurred 4.6 billion years ago, not 12
    million years ago. Gravity would have brought all of the remnants of any
    subsequent collision back together again.

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.


    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through

    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.


    5th Pleant in which Solar System?

    In the solar system of GALLIFREY! You've been told that repeatedly.


    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left. They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:25:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4476563df804d493989ed2@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the >theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.


    Collisions will do that.


    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through

    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.

    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left. They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you don't eat
    your green beans, they might come to Gallifrey and get you. That's all
    the logic a bogeyman needs, and it works just as well for a planet in
    the same system or one from a different system.

    Wherever they first came from, they're scary.


    The Fendahl is death.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:25:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ui291$3cq8e$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:21, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that
    information anywhere.

    By the look of The Five Doctor's it's just gone off the main sequence,
    then again that was depicting the Phantom Zone or whatever they called
    the sand pit they used to film it.


    Mountains in Wales.


    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've
    visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.


    They put a purple filter on top of the camera lens in The Five Doctors.
    I can't remember what they did in The Invasion of Time but we'll find
    out in 3 stories' time. I remember the trees and grass being green and
    there were no stupid deserts outside the citadel like the degenerate
    Davies depicted Gallifrey after the Time War.


    UGH!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 16:26:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ui2j7$3cthn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:26, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugqig$91l$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Then

    how come from the script

    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    Start point Earth.

    I've poked at this a little more. Most external sources (e.g., The
    Discontinuity Guide) think this was the Solar System.


    And they are all wrong. Keith Topping is probably the source of this
    mistaken belief since the early to mid 90s when The Discontinuity Guide
    was published, and his sources mostly came from usenet posts. I should
    be entitled to a refund of what I paid for it.


    I am trying to recall when in the 1990s.


    I could look on the back cover but I'm not going to waste my time and
    get covered in dust in the process. It might have several editions. They >should provide me with a digital upgrade in epub format to put on my >ereaders. The same for my Fourth Doctor Handbook.

    Modern astronomers no longer believe that the Asteroid Belt is the
    remains of a single body, but it was a popular theory when Image of the >>>> Fendahl was written.

    It was never the popular belief even at the time of Image of the
    Fendahl. The standard theory was that electrostatic forces caused
    particles to come together and form larger bodies which eventually grew
    large enough to be attracted together by gravity as the dominantly force >>> gathering around them everything in their wake until they all coalesced
    and formed into planets clearing up everything in the region in which
    they orbited. The asteroid belt failed to do this due to the influence
    of Jupiter's gravity. This all occurred 4.6 billion years ago, not 12
    million years ago. Gravity would have brought all of the remnants of any >>> subsequent collision back together again.

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.


    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through

    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.


    5th Pleant in which Solar System?

    In the solar system of GALLIFREY! You've been told that repeatedly.


    I said this Solar System.

    Mind You I wonder where SP is hiding?


    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left. They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?


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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 17:34:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.

    Did the Earth break up when it got hit by the asteroid that wiped out
    the dinosaurs (except for birds)? Did the Earth break up and form an
    asteroid belt when it collied with another planet to form the moon? No
    of course it didn't and that theory was going around since at least the
    early 70s long before Image of the Fendahl was made. There is therefore
    no kind of suggestion of an asteroid belt being formed.

    Keith Topping and usenet seems to be the original source of this
    nonsense. The actual script and novelisation places the Fendahl's planet
    in the system of Gallifrey which we now know is about 680 light years
    away unless the skull teleported itself to Earth. How long did it take
    the Hand of Fear to get here again?


    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through

    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.

    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left. They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you don't eat

    Why would it know about Gallifrey?

    your green beans, they might come to Gallifrey and get you. That's all
    the logic a bogeyman needs, and it works just as well for a planet in
    the same system or one from a different system.

    It only works if the Fendahl is from the same system as Gallifrey and
    its planet was probably a Gallifreyan colony, which would also explain
    it's humanoid form and telepathic abilities.


    Wherever they first came from, they're scary.



    I suspect a Time Lord experiment in telepathy gone wrong, just like the
    Time Lords messing up with their attempt to advance the technology of
    the Minyans and the Doctor messing up with Xoanon.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 17:36:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 15:12, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think I even passed
    Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I think) compares
    to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14 -15 years
    old getting tested
    I.E. Aust Year 9 .


    O-Levels were for 15-16 year olds.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 17:58:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 11:37, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's only used by Italians and some science fiction writers. E E Smith referred to Earth as Tellus in his Lensman series.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    But only the modern Italians use it. Everyone else uses their own native
    names for Earth and the Sun. If there's going to be a common term that
    aliens will use it will either be the original English terms or with the
    way things are going Chinese. You better get used to Diqiu and Taiyang.


    <<AI Overview solar system/'s??l? ?s?st?m/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to
    it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids,
    comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic
    neighborhood?the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's
    referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.

    You're assuming the writers and editor understood the capitalization and
    its meaning. Unfortunately, that's not a safe assumption.


    Terrance Dicks was not a fool. That it's a reference to Gallifrey's
    solar system is clear from the dialogue connecting it to Time Lord
    mythology and the Doctor mentioning both in the same sentence. He is
    talking about his own culture and history.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 17:59:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names. >>
    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    Correct! The basis of Scientific Genus.


    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek because
    biology was invented by Aristotle.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 18:00:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 14:46, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugutg$322sq$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugo6m$30ig4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as >>>>>>>>> accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their >>>>>>> joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the >>>>>>>>> Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield. >>>>>>>>>
    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the
    evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue >>>>>>>>>  with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.  Hmm! Interesting >>>>>>>>> concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>> system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so >>>>>>>> even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't >>>>>>>> the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it >>>>>>>> wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the >>>>>>> Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>>>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar
    System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway. >>>>>>

    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot? >>>>

    The point about Sol.


    Which is? Were you in remedial class at school?


    Melissa is talking about Solar Syatems.

    No she isn't. She's talking about solar systems in lower case.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 18:05:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 13:21, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
     across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a Headlight??

    It was held in a cauldron above the top of the chariot so you could see
    it from all directions.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    He wants to impress us with his AI scripting ability from the 1980s. AI scripting has progressed a lot since his scripts were made. He should
    try incorporating Grok in them. I think there's a script to do that on
    GitHub.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 18:11:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 13:06, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 7:43 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    If the Gallifreyans had, at some time, spoked Latin, then, Yes, they

    No they spoke Greek. Old High Gallifreyan was written in Greek characters.
    might have called their STAR Sol and (but which one ... if they are in a Binary Star system??), therefore, Gallifrey would be in a Solar
    System .... but what would the chances of THAT having occurred be?

    Long Odds, I might suggest!!


    Gallifrey would be in a solar system no matter what language they spoke.
    Their sun would have been called the sun in all Gallifreyan languages.
    Solar system is a generic scientific term for all bodies orbiting or interacting with a star through gravity.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.

    "Interchangeable" .... if you don't care for ACCURACY!! (O.K., I have
    been called a Pedant at times!)

    The terms are completely interchangeable.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 18:12:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 14:48, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names. >>

    What about Latin?

    Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't> necessarily the Solar
    system... but most people would probably say "star
    system" for others.


    <<AI Overview solar system/ˈsəʊlə ˌsɪstɪm/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to
    it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids,
    comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic
    neighborhood—the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's
    referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.


    Which pages?


    The chapters have titles. Go and figure it out from those.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 18:16:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 11:31, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that.


    It isn't explicit. It's implied by the line about Gallifreyan folklore,
    but it's never said explicitly.


    There's only one way that that line of dialogue can be interpreted
    unless you break the laws of English comprehension, therefore it's
    explicit. And that's before we get down to actual physics and astronomy
    which also justify the locations being Gallifrey's solar system.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 18:18:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 14:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 06:00, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpp4$30u25$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said. >>>>>>>
    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of >>>>>>> Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles
    out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>>>> Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th >>>>>>> planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!


    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating >>>> back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got >>>> angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet >>>> by placing it inside a time loop.



    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? >>> DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build a spacecraft. >>> How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak of astral projection,
    travelling psychically to different planets. That could be a race memory. >>> LEELA: Race memory?

    And your point is what? That you know almost nothing about astronomy and
    have virtually no ability whatsoever in English comprehension?

    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that.

    Is he? IF so, explain your point by scrutinizing the script.


    I've already done that. Go and take an adult education course in English comprehension.

    Book yourself an
    adult education course and learn English Language.

    As for the angry, he should be grateful the
    Time Lords are protecting the universe.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 13:18:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The Binky Doctor wrote:> Melissa is talking about Solar Syatems.>


    WTF are Solar Syatems, Binky?
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 13:41:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.

    Did the Earth break up when it got hit by the asteroid that wiped out
    the dinosaurs (except for birds)? Did the Earth break up and form an asteroid belt when it collied with another planet to form the moon? No
    of course it didn't and that theory was going around since at least the early 70s long before Image of the Fendahl was made. There is therefore
    no kind of suggestion of an asteroid belt being formed.

    A comet's a lot bigger than an asteroid, and traveling very quickly.

    This theory is no longer widely believed, though. Known mechanisms are
    enough to account for it, so we apply Occam's Razor and refrain from multiplying entities needlessly.


    Keith Topping and usenet seems to be the original source of this
    nonsense. The actual script and novelisation places the Fendahl's planet
    in the system of Gallifrey which we now know is about 680 light years
    away unless the skull teleported itself to Earth. How long did it take
    the Hand of Fear to get here again?

    It references Gallifreyan folklore, but never says where the Fendahl's
    planet is beyond "the fifth planet."


    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left.
    They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you don't eat

    Why would it know about Gallifrey?

    Why would it need to? All that's necessary is that the Gallifreyans know
    about it.


    I suspect a Time Lord experiment in telepathy gone wrong, just like
    the
    Time Lords messing up with their attempt to advance the technology of
    the Minyans and the Doctor messing up with Xoanon.

    Hmm, now that's an interesting idea.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 23:34:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 18:41, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which >>>> it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the >>> theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.

    Did the Earth break up when it got hit by the asteroid that wiped out
    the dinosaurs (except for birds)? Did the Earth break up and form an
    asteroid belt when it collied with another planet to form the moon? No
    of course it didn't and that theory was going around since at least the
    early 70s long before Image of the Fendahl was made. There is therefore
    no kind of suggestion of an asteroid belt being formed.

    A comet's a lot bigger than an asteroid, and traveling very quickly.


    So was the planet that collided with Earth that formed the moon.

    This theory is no longer widely believed, though. Known mechanisms are
    enough to account for it, so we apply Occam's Razor and refrain from multiplying entities needlessly.


    Keith Topping and usenet seems to be the original source of this
    nonsense. The actual script and novelisation places the Fendahl's planet
    in the system of Gallifrey which we now know is about 680 light years
    away unless the skull teleported itself to Earth. How long did it take
    the Hand of Fear to get here again?

    It references Gallifreyan folklore, but never says where the Fendahl's
    planet is beyond "the fifth planet."


    It says it was the 5th planet (in the system of Gallifrey).


    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left.
    They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you don't eat

    Why would it know about Gallifrey?

    Why would it need to? All that's necessary is that the Gallifreyans know about it.

    Why would they know about it unless it's in their solar system? They
    didn't even know about the Daleks until the Doctor discovered them.
    Daleks are not in Time Lord mythology. Fendahl is so it must be close
    enough to exert it's influence especially when it never left its planet
    like the space vampires from State of Decay. And on top of that we've
    already seen in The Deadly Assassin that the Time Lords didn't know
    anything about Earth and dismissed it and its star system as something irrelevant. If the Fendahl was from there and it was the stuff of
    nightmares then it would have immediately registered.



    I suspect a Time Lord experiment in telepathy gone wrong, just like
    the
    Time Lords messing up with their attempt to advance the technology of
    the Minyans and the Doctor messing up with Xoanon.

    Hmm, now that's an interesting idea.


    It's the only idea that makes sense. Everything in the script points
    towards Gallifrey, the Time Lords interfering, and the 5th planet being
    in their solar system. You'd have to rewrite the laws of English
    language comprehension, physics, and mathematics for it to be otherwise.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 23:41:41 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 11:44, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.447603b711858e46989ec2@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere
    inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that
    information anywhere.

    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've
    visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.

    Wait wait waaaaaaaait a minute. Gallifrey's sun is a binary pair, isn't
    it?


    It used to be a binary system until Omega and Rassilon turned one of
    them into the Eye of Harmony.

    https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Gallifrey#Star_system

    Gallifrey probably orbits the larger red one.


    The degenerate Chris Chibnall messed that up too then. Another reason to
    erase everything after The Doctor Falls from canon.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Tue May 19 18:42:21 2026
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    Verily, in article <10uioi1$3jbgf$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    It's the only idea that makes sense. Everything in the script points
    towards Gallifrey, the Time Lords interfering, and the 5th planet being
    in their solar system. You'd have to rewrite the laws of English
    language comprehension, physics, and mathematics for it to be otherwise.


    You do make a good case. I'll go with that.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:02:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 13:32, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    What? Stop making up bullshit physics. Everything orbits the common
    centre of gravity which in the case of our solar system is almost smack
    bang in the middle of the sun and both the Earth and the Sun and all the
    other planets orbit around that.

    For a binary system with similar sized stars it would be somewhere
    between the two stars and this fact would make the climate on any planet orbiting the same centre of mass completely unstable by causing it to go
    from extreme heat to extreme cold or less extreme heat. Also the orbits
    of the planets would keep shifting and eventually become unstable if
    certain criteria are not met to achieve stability.


    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.

    Ah!! So there ARE Vampires on Gallifrey, are there?

    No. They fought in a war against the Time Lords.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:35:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 00:02, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:32, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    What? Stop making up bullshit physics. Everything orbits the common

    Oh, you were talking about the Earth-Moon system. I missed that. Though
    common centre of mass still applies since both orbit the sun.

    centre of gravity which in the case of our solar system is almost smack
    bang in the middle of the sun and both the Earth and the Sun and all the other planets orbit around that.

    For a binary system with similar sized stars it would be somewhere
    between the two stars and this fact would make the climate on any planet orbiting the same centre of mass completely unstable by causing it to go from extreme heat to extreme cold or less extreme heat. Also the orbits
    of the planets would keep shifting and eventually become unstable if
    certain criteria are not met to achieve stability.


    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.

    Ah!! So there ARE Vampires on Gallifrey, are there?

    No. They fought in a war against the Time Lords.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:44:34 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 17:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called "failed
    stars," though the only failure is not attracting enough matter.


    Of course that could change.

    No it couldn't. They're not anywhere large enough to be protostars or
    attain nuclear fusion. They're ordinary gas giants.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:00:09 2026
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    In article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which
    it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the
    theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.

    Did the Earth break up when it got hit by the asteroid that wiped out
    the dinosaurs (except for birds)? Did the Earth break up and form an >asteroid belt when it collied with another planet to form the moon? No
    of course it didn't and that theory was going around since at least the >early 70s long before Image of the Fendahl was made. There is therefore
    no kind of suggestion of an asteroid belt being formed.


    They the 5th planet must have borken up for another reason.

    Keith Topping and usenet seems to be the original source of this
    nonsense. The actual script and novelisation places the Fendahl's planet
    in the system of Gallifrey which we now know is about 680 light years
    away unless the skull teleported itself to Earth. How long did it take
    the Hand of Fear to get here again?


    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's
    system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to
    using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through

    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.

    time and space so easily that their culture could include components
    from anywhere and anywhen.
    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left. They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you don't eat

    Why would it know about Gallifrey?

    your green beans, they might come to Gallifrey and get you. That's all
    the logic a bogeyman needs, and it works just as well for a planet in
    the same system or one from a different system.

    It only works if the Fendahl is from the same system as Gallifrey and
    its planet was probably a Gallifreyan colony, which would also explain
    it's humanoid form and telepathic abilities.


    Wherever they first came from, they're scary.



    I suspect a Time Lord experiment in telepathy gone wrong, just like the
    Time Lords messing up with their attempt to advance the technology of
    the Minyans and the Doctor messing up with Xoanon.


    Rather interesting premise.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:01:15 2026
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    In article <10ui3iv$3d68h$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:12, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think I even passed
    Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I think) compares
    to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14 -15 years
    old getting tested
    I.E. Aust Year 9 .


    O-Levels were for 15-16 year olds.


    In Canada that would be Grade 10.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:01:55 2026
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    In article <10ui4r7$3djuk$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:37, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names. >>
    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's only used by Italians and some science fiction writers. E E Smith >referred to Earth as Tellus in his Lensman series.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    But only the modern Italians use it. Everyone else uses their own native >names for Earth and the Sun. If there's going to be a common term that >aliens will use it will either be the original English terms or with the
    way things are going Chinese. You better get used to Diqiu and Taiyang.


    Fortissimo is latin?

    Tempus fugit.


    <<AI Overview solar system/'s??l? ?s?st?m/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to >>> it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids,
    comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic >>> neighborhood?the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's
    referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.

    You're assuming the writers and editor understood the capitalization and
    its meaning. Unfortunately, that's not a safe assumption.


    Terrance Dicks was not a fool. That it's a reference to Gallifrey's
    solar system is clear from the dialogue connecting it to Time Lord
    mythology and the Doctor mentioning both in the same sentence. He is
    talking about his own culture and history.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:02:24 2026
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    In article <10ui4tf$3djuk$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names. >>>
    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    Correct! The basis of Scientific Genus.


    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek because >biology was invented by Aristotle.


    Then why Latin designations?


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:02:42 2026
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    In article <10ui4vr$3djuk$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 14:46, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugutg$322sq$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugo6m$30ig4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not as >>>>>>>>>> accurate as view it.

    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes. >>>>>>>>
    AS USUAL for the asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their >>>>>>>> joy of child sexual molestation cleanup)!

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been the >>>>>>>>>> Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield. >>>>>>>>>>
    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the >>>>>>>>>> evolution of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue >>>>>>>>>>  with Leela.

    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor. >>>>>>>>>>
    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt.  Hmm! Interesting >>>>>>>>>> concept.

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same >>>>>>>>> system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so >>>>>>>>> even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't >>>>>>>>> the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it >>>>>>>>> wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system >>>>>>>>
    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the >>>>>>>> Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar
    System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.


    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway. >>>>>>>

    The Sun is a star.


    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot >>>>> across the sky.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat bot? >>>>>

    The point about Sol.


    Which is? Were you in remedial class at school?


    Melissa is talking about Solar Syatems.

    No she isn't. She's talking about solar systems in lower case.


    Melissa?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:03:13 2026
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    In article <10ui58a$3doct$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:21, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
     across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    It was held in a cauldron above the top of the chariot so you could see
    it from all directions.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    He wants to impress us with his AI scripting ability from the 1980s. AI >scripting has progressed a lot since his scripts were made. He should
    try incorporating Grok in them. I think there's a script to do that on >GitHub.


    When did LLM start getting into the big picture?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:03:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ui5j4$3drtp$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:06, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 7:43 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.

    If the Gallifreyans had, at some time, spoked Latin, then, Yes, they

    No they spoke Greek. Old High Gallifreyan was written in Greek characters.
    might have called their STAR Sol and (but which one ... if they are in a
    Binary Star system??), therefore, Gallifrey would be in a Solar
    System .... but what would the chances of THAT having occurred be?

    Long Odds, I might suggest!!


    Gallifrey would be in a solar system no matter what language they spoke. >Their sun would have been called the sun in all Gallifreyan languages.
    Solar system is a generic scientific term for all bodies orbiting or >interacting with a star through gravity.


    Kasterberous IIRC.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live in a Solar >>>> System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system anyway.

    "Interchangeable" .... if you don't care for ACCURACY!! (O.K., I have
    been called a Pedant at times!)

    The terms are completely interchangeable.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 01:04:41 2026
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    On 19/05/2026 16:30, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhtu6$3bau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugvnl$32813$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:51, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >>>>>>>>>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the
    same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to >>>> carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord >>>>>>>>>>>> nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the
    Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so
    he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this >>>>>>>>>>>> precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since
    the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and
    carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager
    1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of
    us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in >>>> either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at >>>>>>>> school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000 >>>>>>>> years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from >>>>>>>> primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you >>>>>>>> about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay >>>>>>>> about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no >>>>>> way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly >>>>>> clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet >>>>>> outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why >>>>>> would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours. >>>>>>

    From the script


    Answer my questions. Is English your first language? What language is?

    British English, then Canadian English the Quebec French .

    Est 1988 in Rimouski.


    What does that mean? That you've only spoken English since 1988? It figures. >>

    No! read again!


    So I'm right then.


    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was
    this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and
    dissipated
    slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate
    lifeform that
    came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into
    something
    suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.
    So what? What is your point?

    Why am I talking to a pirmative AI chat both from the 1980s.


    REcall how DW see Evolution from Earth's Point of views.

    And your point is what? That you're totally incapable of explaining
    anything to anyone...?


    Egads.

    what about the Jageroth and the Fendahl?


    And once more no one has the remotest clue what you are on about.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:04:44 2026
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    In article <10ui5lj$3drtp$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 14:48, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names. >>>

    What about Latin?

    Capitalization matters. A solar system isn't> necessarily the Solar
    system... but most people would probably say "star
    system" for others.


    <<AI Overview solar system/ˈsəʊlə ˌsɪstɪm/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to >>> it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids,
    comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic >>> neighborhood—the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's
    referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.


    Which pages?


    The chapters have titles. Go and figure it out from those.


    What I can get to it.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:07:12 2026
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    In article <10ui5t0$3dv4p$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:31, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that.


    It isn't explicit. It's implied by the line about Gallifreyan folklore,
    but it's never said explicitly.


    There's only one way that that line of dialogue can be interpreted
    unless you break the laws of English comprehension, therefore it's
    explicit. And that's before we get down to actual physics and astronomy >which also justify the locations being Gallifrey's solar system.


    So what does it say in the novel?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:07:41 2026
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    In article <10ui60h$3dv4p$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 14:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 06:00, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugpp4$30u25$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44751fcae1330f5a989ebe@news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>>> The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ufadb$2j821$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 14:26, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    (The glow has gone, and Thea wakes up.)
    DOCTOR: Come and sit down. You'll be all right.
    COLBY: Embryo what?
    DOCTOR: Embryo Fendahleen. A creature from my own mythology.
    Supposed to have
    perished when the fifth planet broke up. At least, so they said. >>>>>>>>
    Gallyfreyan mythology, therefore the 5th planet in the system of >>>>>>>> Gallifrey. Basic comprehension really.

    [quoted text muted]
    [Tardis]

    (In flight.)
    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles >>>>>>>>> out and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.

    The 5th planet is 107,000,000 miles out from the sun in the system of >>>>>>>> Gallifrey.

    Mars on the other hand is the 4th planet in the Earth's solar system and
    is 142 million miles out from the sun.

    Now answer this question, how can a 5th planet be closer than a 4th >>>>>>>> planet in the same solar system?

    The answer is that there are NOT in the same solar system. The planet >>>>>>>> the Fendahl came from was the 5 planet in the solar system of GALLIFREY!


    That's a good case. I concede the point.


    I don't. The Doctor was travelling 12 000 000 years back in time
    107 000 000 miles from Earth.


    No he wast. He was inside the TARDIS studying Time Lord records dating >>>>> back 12 million years into the history of his own solar system and got >>>>> angry at the Time Lords trying to erase the history of their 5th planet >>>>> by placing it inside a time loop.



    DOCTOR: The fifth planet's a hundred and seven million miles out
    and twelve million years back, so we've no time to lose.
    LEELA: Do you think this thing, the Fendahl, comes from the fifth planet? >>>> DOCTOR: Well, it came from it a long time ago,
    before your species evolved on Earth.
    LEELA: How did it travel?
    DOCTOR: What?
    LEELA: Well, you said there's only one. It could not build a spacecraft. >>>> How did it get to Earth?
    DOCTOR: Well, it. Well, it probably used that enormous stockpile
    of energy to project itself across space.
    LEELA: Oh, you mean the way lightning travels.
    DOCTOR: No. Yes, well, something like that. Humans speak of astral >projection,
    travelling psychically to different planets. That could be a race memory. >>>> LEELA: Race memory?

    And your point is what? That you know almost nothing about astronomy and >>> have virtually no ability whatsoever in English comprehension?

    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his
    own solar system and the script is explicit in that.

    Is he? IF so, explain your point by scrutinizing the script.


    I've already done that. Go and take an adult education course in English >comprehension.


    Cop out!

    Book yourself an
    adult education course and learn English Language.

    As for the angry, he should be grateful the
    Time Lords are protecting the universe.




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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:08:20 2026
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    In article <18b10711bfa545c2$2768$3608850$22dd286e@news.thecubenet.com>,
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation) Doctor wrote:> Melissa is talking about Solar Syatems.>


    WTF are Solar Syatems, Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation)?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:08:49 2026
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    In article <MPG.44766ae77c2ba6f8989ed3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming
    asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script
    and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which >> >> it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the >> > theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.

    Did the Earth break up when it got hit by the asteroid that wiped out
    the dinosaurs (except for birds)? Did the Earth break up and form an
    asteroid belt when it collied with another planet to form the moon? No
    of course it didn't and that theory was going around since at least the
    early 70s long before Image of the Fendahl was made. There is therefore
    no kind of suggestion of an asteroid belt being formed.

    A comet's a lot bigger than an asteroid, and traveling very quickly.

    This theory is no longer widely believed, though. Known mechanisms are >enough to account for it, so we apply Occam's Razor and refrain from >multiplying entities needlessly.


    Keith Topping and usenet seems to be the original source of this
    nonsense. The actual script and novelisation places the Fendahl's planet
    in the system of Gallifrey which we now know is about 680 light years
    away unless the skull teleported itself to Earth. How long did it take
    the Hand of Fear to get here again?

    It references Gallifreyan folklore, but never says where the Fendahl's >planet is beyond "the fifth planet."


    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left.
    They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence
    their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you don't eat

    Why would it know about Gallifrey?

    Why would it need to? All that's necessary is that the Gallifreyans know >about it.


    Russia 1905?


    I suspect a Time Lord experiment in telepathy gone wrong, just like
    the
    Time Lords messing up with their attempt to advance the technology of
    the Minyans and the Doctor messing up with Xoanon.

    Hmm, now that's an interesting idea.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:09:58 2026
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    In article <10uioi1$3jbgf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 18:41, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming >>>>> asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script >>>>> and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which >>>>> it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the >>>> theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.

    Did the Earth break up when it got hit by the asteroid that wiped out
    the dinosaurs (except for birds)? Did the Earth break up and form an
    asteroid belt when it collied with another planet to form the moon? No
    of course it didn't and that theory was going around since at least the
    early 70s long before Image of the Fendahl was made. There is therefore
    no kind of suggestion of an asteroid belt being formed.

    A comet's a lot bigger than an asteroid, and traveling very quickly.


    So was the planet that collided with Earth that formed the moon.


    And we have a planet satellite system.

    This theory is no longer widely believed, though. Known mechanisms are
    enough to account for it, so we apply Occam's Razor and refrain from
    multiplying entities needlessly.


    Keith Topping and usenet seems to be the original source of this
    nonsense. The actual script and novelisation places the Fendahl's planet >>> in the system of Gallifrey which we now know is about 680 light years
    away unless the skull teleported itself to Earth. How long did it take
    the Hand of Fear to get here again?

    It references Gallifreyan folklore, but never says where the Fendahl's
    planet is beyond "the fifth planet."


    It says it was the 5th planet (in the system of Gallifrey).


    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor left.
    They're
    all completely insular. They didn't even found any colonies, so why
    would something that was not inside their own solar system influence >>>>> their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you don't eat

    Why would it know about Gallifrey?

    Why would it need to? All that's necessary is that the Gallifreyans know
    about it.

    Why would they know about it unless it's in their solar system? They
    didn't even know about the Daleks until the Doctor discovered them.
    Daleks are not in Time Lord mythology. Fendahl is so it must be close
    enough to exert it's influence especially when it never left its planet
    like the space vampires from State of Decay. And on top of that we've >already seen in The Deadly Assassin that the Time Lords didn't know
    anything about Earth and dismissed it and its star system as something >irrelevant. If the Fendahl was from there and it was the stuff of
    nightmares then it would have immediately registered.



    I suspect a Time Lord experiment in telepathy gone wrong, just like
    the
    Time Lords messing up with their attempt to advance the technology of
    the Minyans and the Doctor messing up with Xoanon.

    Hmm, now that's an interesting idea.


    It's the only idea that makes sense. Everything in the script points
    towards Gallifrey, the Time Lords interfering, and the 5th planet being
    in their solar system. You'd have to rewrite the laws of English
    language comprehension, physics, and mathematics for it to be otherwise.


    Consistency please.

    Join in anytime SP.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:10:25 2026
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    In article <10uiov6$3jdm4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:44, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.447603b711858e46989ec2@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <10ugpko$30u25$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    At a guess about the same distance as Earth is from the sun. Somewhere >>>> inside the habitable zone, roughly between the distance of the orbits of >>>> Venus and Mars for a main sequence star the size of the sun.


    Do we know that Gallifrey's star is a yellow dwarf? I haven't seen that
    information anywhere.

    I'm trying to think of what the sun looks like on Gallifrey, when we've
    visited the Gallifreyan outdoors. Of course, those scenes have to be
    shot in Earth's outdoors, and we couldn't expect them to build an
    artificial sun with that era's budgets.

    Wait wait waaaaaaaait a minute. Gallifrey's sun is a binary pair, isn't
    it?


    It used to be a binary system until Omega and Rassilon turned one of
    them into the Eye of Harmony.


    A black hole?

    https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Gallifrey#Star_system

    Gallifrey probably orbits the larger red one.


    The degenerate Chris Chibnall messed that up too then. Another reason to >erase everything after The Doctor Falls from canon.


    We agree.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:10:59 2026
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    In article <MPG.4476b15acd8059ab989ed5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uioi1$3jbgf$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    It's the only idea that makes sense. Everything in the script points
    towards Gallifrey, the Time Lords interfering, and the 5th planet being
    in their solar system. You'd have to rewrite the laws of English
    language comprehension, physics, and mathematics for it to be otherwise.


    You do make a good case. I'll go with that.



    Still 107 000 000 miles?


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:11:53 2026
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    In article <10uiq5l$3jo4j$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:32, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    What? Stop making up bullphysics. Everything orbits the common
    centre of gravity which in the case of our solar system is almost smack
    bang in the middle of the sun and both the Earth and the Sun and all the >other planets orbit around that.

    For a binary system with similar sized stars it would be somewhere
    between the two stars and this fact would make the climate on any planet >orbiting the same centre of mass completely unstable by causing it to go >from extreme heat to extreme cold or less extreme heat. Also the orbits
    of the planets would keep shifting and eventually become unstable if
    certain criteria are not met to achieve stability.

    Does he know Newton?


    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.

    Ah!! So there ARE Vampires on Gallifrey, are there?

    No. They fought in a war against the Time Lords.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:12:23 2026
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    In article <10uis3i$3k4mc$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 00:02, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:32, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    What? Stop making up bullphysics. Everything orbits the common

    Oh, you were talking about the Earth-Moon system. I missed that. Though >common centre of mass still applies since both orbit the sun.

    Newton still applies.

    centre of gravity which in the case of our solar system is almost smack
    bang in the middle of the sun and both the Earth and the Sun and all the
    other planets orbit around that.

    For a binary system with similar sized stars it would be somewhere
    between the two stars and this fact would make the climate on any planet
    orbiting the same centre of mass completely unstable by causing it to go
    from extreme heat to extreme cold or less extreme heat. Also the orbits
    of the planets would keep shifting and eventually become unstable if
    certain criteria are not met to achieve stability.


    As for the vampires, check out State of Decay. Or don't, since the
    rewatch parties will reach it soon.

    Ah!! So there ARE Vampires on Gallifrey, are there?

    No. They fought in a war against the Time Lords.



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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:13:02 2026
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    In article <10uisl3$3ka7b$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called "failed
    stars," though the only failure is not attracting enough matter.


    Of course that could change.

    No it couldn't. They're not anywhere large enough to be protostars or
    attain nuclear fusion. They're ordinary gas giants.


    Atar do go through a life cycle.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 00:13:51 2026
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    In article <10uitqp$3kknq$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 16:30, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhtu6$3bau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugvnl$32813$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 05:51, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ugoti$30okn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ufide$2lvag$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 14:09, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ueie3$2bnu8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:56, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ud36c$1tcfo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 19:08, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>, did >>>>>>>>>>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the >>>>> same system
    as Gallifry

    Are you sure? Where is that said?


    It's said when the Doctor and Leela head back to the TARDIS to >>>>> carry out
    some investigations because the Fendahl was the stuff of Time Lord
    nightmares. It was the 5th planet in the Gallifrey's system
    which blew
    up 12 million years ago and sent the skull flying off to
    Earth where it
    was discovered in Africa. Then the Doctor discovered that the >>>>> Time Lords
    put the planet in a time loop and kept it all hushed up, so
    he slammed
    the data cards on the TARDIS console in disgust. Therefore this >>>>>>>>>>>>> precludes it forming any kind of asteroid belt anywhere since
    the Time
    Lords did not want any fragments of the planet to escape and
    carry the
    Fendahl away with them. But they obviously missed one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Assuming it was going at 17.0 km/s the same speed as Voyager
    1 it would
    have travelled 680 light years to get to Earth, meaning
    Gallifrey is 680
    light years away which sounds reasonable.

    I know you were paying close attention, but all the rest of
    us took it
    the other way, and online sources also agree that it was
    Sol's fifth
    planet.


    The asteroid belt in the Solar System is 4.6 billion years old. The
    Fendahl's skull was only 12 million years old. That's an >astronomical
    difference. You should not rely on sources generated by AI or AI >>>>>>>>>>>>> chatbots like Yads. There's no mention of any asteroid belt in >>>>> either to
    televised episodes or the Target novelisation which I own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That how can the Fendahl wpid out life on Mars?


    It didn't. The Ice Warriors are still there.


    After the Fendahl wiped out the native life.


    The native life were the Ice Warriors and they didn't evolve in
    the last
    12 million years. Did they not teach you biology and evolution at >>>>>>>>> school? Oh, no, wait... You think humans have only existed for 6000 >>>>>>>>> years and they were created by God rather than having evolved from >>>>>>>>> primates. Are you sure you studied astronomy? Did they not teach you >>>>>>>>> about the big bang, inflation, the Hubble Constant and the expansion of
    the universe and how it might continue? Do you want to write an essay >>>>>>>>> about the above to show me what you actually know?


    Yes!

    Still The Doctor did say the Fendalhl wiped out life on Mars
    on its way to Earth.


    No he didn't. He said it probably passed Mars along the way. Which in no
    way contradicts what I already said since Mars is on route from
    Gallifrey's solar system to Earth and the Doctor makes it explicitly >>>>>>> clear he is talking about his own people.

    Why would the Time Lords have nightmares about a life form from a planet
    outside of their solar system? Why would it be in their mythology? Why >>>>>>> would they try to erase it's existence? It's their 5th planet not ours. >>>>>>>

    From the script


    Answer my questions. Is English your first language? What language is? >>>>
    British English, then Canadian English the Quebec French .

    Est 1988 in Rimouski.


    What does that mean? That you've only spoken English since 1988? It figures.


    No! read again!


    So I'm right then.


    COLBY: So when the Time Lords acted, it was too late.
    The Fendahl had already come here.
    DOCTOR: Yes, probably taking in Mars on it's way through.
    COLBY: Then it got itself buried, but not killed.
    DOCTOR: The Fendahl is death. How do you kill death? No, what happened was
    this. The energy amassed by the Fendahl was stored in the skull and
    dissipated
    slowly as a biological transmutation field. Now, any appropriate
    lifeform that
    came within the field was altered so that it ultimately evolved into
    something
    suitable for the Fendahl to use.
    COLBY: Are you saying that skull created man?
    DOCTOR: No, I'm saying it may have effected his evolution.

    And then there is Scaroth the Jaggeroth.
    So what? What is your point?

    Why am I talking to a pirmative AI chat both from the 1980s.


    REcall how DW see Evolution from Earth's Point of views.

    And your point is what? That you're totally incapable of explaining
    anything to anyone...?


    Egads.

    what about the Jageroth and the Fendahl?


    And once more no one has the remotest clue what you are on about.


    You recall do forget.

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 01:50:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 01:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui5t0$3dv4p$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:31, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his >>>> own solar system and the script is explicit in that.


    It isn't explicit. It's implied by the line about Gallifreyan folklore,
    but it's never said explicitly.


    There's only one way that that line of dialogue can be interpreted
    unless you break the laws of English comprehension, therefore it's
    explicit. And that's before we get down to actual physics and astronomy
    which also justify the locations being Gallifrey's solar system.


    So what does it say in the novel?

    The same thing about Gallifreyan mythology, except the distance of the
    5th planet is 170 million miles (out from Gallifey's sun).
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 02:02:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 01:03, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui58a$3doct$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:21, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
     across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    It was held in a cauldron above the top of the chariot so you could see
    it from all directions.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    He wants to impress us with his AI scripting ability from the 1980s. AI
    scripting has progressed a lot since his scripts were made. He should
    try incorporating Grok in them. I think there's a script to do that on
    GitHub.


    When did LLM start getting into the big picture?


    You tell me. You are the one running the AI script pretending to be
    human on usenet. Like I said, you failed the Turing Test.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 03:17:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uj0fu$3l5d3$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 01:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui5t0$3dv4p$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:31, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugurl$322sq$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    It's already been explained to you that the Doctor is referring to his >>>>> own solar system and the script is explicit in that.


    It isn't explicit. It's implied by the line about Gallifreyan folklore, >>>> but it's never said explicitly.


    There's only one way that that line of dialogue can be interpreted
    unless you break the laws of English comprehension, therefore it's
    explicit. And that's before we get down to actual physics and astronomy
    which also justify the locations being Gallifrey's solar system.


    So what does it say in the novel?

    The same thing about Gallifreyan mythology, except the distance of the
    5th planet is 170 million miles (out from Gallifey's sun).


    This is not going away any time soon.

    Does anyone have the Gallifrey - KAsterberus star map?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 03:18:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uj16o$3laiu$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 01:03, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui58a$3doct$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:21, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because >>>>>>>> the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies >>>>>>> to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot >>>>>  across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind >>>> the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    It was held in a cauldron above the top of the chariot so you could see
    it from all directions.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    He wants to impress us with his AI scripting ability from the 1980s. AI
    scripting has progressed a lot since his scripts were made. He should
    try incorporating Grok in them. I think there's a script to do that on
    GitHub.


    When did LLM start getting into the big picture?


    You tell me. You are the one running the AI script pretending to be
    human on usenet. Like I said, you failed the Turing Test.


    2022.

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 06:01:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10uiuae$1ec5$19@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <10uisl3$3ka7b$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called "failed
    stars," though the only failure is not attracting enough matter.


    Of course that could change.

    No it couldn't. They're not anywhere large enough to be protostars or >attain nuclear fusion. They're ordinary gas giants.


    Atar do go through a life cycle.

    They'd need to attract a lot more matter. How would that happen?
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 06:06:39 2026
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    Verily, in article <10uitn2$1ec5$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <10ui4vr$3djuk$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 14:46, The Doctor wrote:

    Melissa is talking about Solar Syatems.

    No she isn't. She's talking about solar systems in lower case.

    Melissa?

    Nothing I wrote was quoted anywhere in that, so I don't know what you're asking about.

    I don't use "solar" for anything but our own Sol. Other systems are star systems, or stellar systems if I'm feeling fancy.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 12:06:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.44775083c7912356989ed6@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uiuae$1ec5$19@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <10uisl3$3ka7b$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called "failed
    stars," though the only failure is not attracting enough matter.


    Of course that could change.

    No it couldn't. They're not anywhere large enough to be protostars or
    attain nuclear fusion. They're ordinary gas giants.


    A star do go through a life cycle.

    They'd need to attract a lot more matter. How would that happen?


    Hydrogen would be one.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 12:06:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.447751bcf2447e6f989ed7@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uitn2$1ec5$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <10ui4vr$3djuk$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 14:46, The Doctor wrote:

    Melissa is talking about Solar Syatems.

    No she isn't. She's talking about solar systems in lower case.

    Melissa?

    Nothing I wrote was quoted anywhere in that, so I don't know what you're >asking about.

    I don't use "solar" for anything but our own Sol. Other systems are star >systems, or stellar systems if I'm feeling fancy.


    Make a lot of sense.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:22:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 01:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui4tf$3djuk$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    Correct! The basis of Scientific Genus.


    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek because
    biology was invented by Aristotle.


    Then why Latin designations?


    What the hell are you talking about? Read what I said above.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:23:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 01:01, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui4r7$3djuk$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:37, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names. >>>
    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's only used by Italians and some science fiction writers. E E Smith
    referred to Earth as Tellus in his Lensman series.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    But only the modern Italians use it. Everyone else uses their own native
    names for Earth and the Sun. If there's going to be a common term that
    aliens will use it will either be the original English terms or with the
    way things are going Chinese. You better get used to Diqiu and Taiyang.


    Fortissimo is latin?

    Tempus fugit.


    So what?


    <<AI Overview solar system/'s??l? ?s?st?m/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to >>>> it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids, >>>> comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic >>>> neighborhood?the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's
    referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.

    You're assuming the writers and editor understood the capitalization and >>> its meaning. Unfortunately, that's not a safe assumption.


    Terrance Dicks was not a fool. That it's a reference to Gallifrey's
    solar system is clear from the dialogue connecting it to Time Lord
    mythology and the Doctor mentioning both in the same sentence. He is
    talking about his own culture and history.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:25:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 13:06, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44775083c7912356989ed6@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uiuae$1ec5$19@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <10uisl3$3ka7b$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called "failed >>>>>> stars," though the only failure is not attracting enough matter.


    Of course that could change.

    No it couldn't. They're not anywhere large enough to be protostars or
    attain nuclear fusion. They're ordinary gas giants.


    A star do go through a life cycle.

    They'd need to attract a lot more matter. How would that happen?


    Hydrogen would be one.


    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen in the
    solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 22:39:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uitqp$3kknq$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 16:30, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhtu6$3bau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    <Snip>

    And your point is what? That you're totally incapable of explaining
    anything to anyone...?

    Egads.

    what about the Jageroth and the Fendahl?

    And once more no one has the remotest clue what you are on about.

    You recall do forget.
    You ENGLISH don't type.

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 22:43:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 12:12 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think I even passed
    Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I think) compares
    to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14 -15 years
    old getting tested I.E. Aust Year 9 .

    Back in the Day, I think we had Year Ten Intermediate (15-16y.o.), Year
    Eleven Leaving (16-17y.o.)and Year Twelve Matriculation (17-18y.o.).
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:13:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uk92d$3vc75$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 01:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui4tf$3djuk$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>>>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    Correct! The basis of Scientific Genus.


    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek because
    biology was invented by Aristotle.


    Then why Latin designations?


    What the hell are you talking about? Read what I said above.


    Canine is a greek-based word? Ursa?


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:14:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uk94q$3vc75$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 01:01, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui4r7$3djuk$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:37, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's only used by Italians and some science fiction writers. E E Smith
    referred to Earth as Tellus in his Lensman series.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    But only the modern Italians use it. Everyone else uses their own native >>> names for Earth and the Sun. If there's going to be a common term that
    aliens will use it will either be the original English terms or with the >>> way things are going Chinese. You better get used to Diqiu and Taiyang.


    Fortissimo is latin?

    Tempus fugit.


    So what?


    Italian is derived from Latin.

    BTW most scientific words are latin based.


    <<AI Overview solar system/'s??l? ?s?st?m/
    A solar system is a star and all the celestial objects that are bound to >>>>> it by gravity. This includes planets, dwarf planets, moons, asteroids, >>>>> comets, and dust, all orbiting the central star.
    When capitalized, the Solar System specifically refers to our own cosmic >>>>> neighborhood?the Sun and everything that orbits it.>>

    The script has it in lower case, as does the Target novelisation.
    Therefore, it isn't reoffering to our own cosmic neighbourhood, it's >>>>> referring to an alien one, that of Gallifrey.

    You're assuming the writers and editor understood the capitalization and >>>> its meaning. Unfortunately, that's not a safe assumption.


    Terrance Dicks was not a fool. That it's a reference to Gallifrey's
    solar system is clear from the dialogue connecting it to Time Lord
    mythology and the Doctor mentioning both in the same sentence. He is
    talking about his own culture and history.


    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:14:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 13:06, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44775083c7912356989ed6@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uiuae$1ec5$19@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <10uisl3$3ka7b$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>>> The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    and

    that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.


    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called "failed >>>>>>> stars," though the only failure is not attracting enough matter. >>>>>>>

    Of course that could change.

    No it couldn't. They're not anywhere large enough to be protostars or >>>>> attain nuclear fusion. They're ordinary gas giants.


    A star do go through a life cycle.

    They'd need to attract a lot more matter. How would that happen?


    Hydrogen would be one.


    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen in the >solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.


    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:15:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uka1n$3viia$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uitqp$3kknq$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 16:30, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhtu6$3bau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    <Snip>

    And your point is what? That you're totally incapable of explaining
    anything to anyone...?

    Egads.

    what about the Jageroth and the Fendahl?

    And once more no one has the remotest clue what you are on about.

    You recall do forget.
    You ENGLISH don't type.

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe(Word used by paedophiles
    to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup).
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:16:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ukaaf$3vo1c$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 12:12 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level English Language and
    O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent) exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think I even passed
    Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I think) compares
    to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14 -15 years
    old getting tested I.E. Aust Year 9 .

    Back in the Day, I think we had Year Ten Intermediate (15-16y.o.), Year >Eleven Leaving (16-17y.o.)and Year Twelve Matriculation (17-18y.o.).

    You are making sense!

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 09:47:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]


    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen in the >solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.


    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?


    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush it
    all together. Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few
    millennia at that time, before joining the black hole.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 17:46:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 14:14, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uk94q$3vc75$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 01:01, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui4r7$3djuk$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:37, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in >>>>>>>> Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun, >>>>>>>> ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna >>>>>>> for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's only used by Italians and some science fiction writers. E E Smith >>>> referred to Earth as Tellus in his Lensman series.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    But only the modern Italians use it. Everyone else uses their own native >>>> names for Earth and the Sun. If there's going to be a common term that >>>> aliens will use it will either be the original English terms or with the >>>> way things are going Chinese. You better get used to Diqiu and Taiyang. >>>>

    Fortissimo is latin?

    Tempus fugit.


    So what?


    Italian is derived from Latin.


    So what?

    BTW most scientific words are latin based.


    Oh, you mean like Physics? No, wait that's a Greek word. Chemistry?
    Wait, that's a Greek word too. Biology? Another Greek word, and
    everything ending with -logy is a Greek word too. Inertia. Greek word. Thermodynamics. Greek word. Logistics. Greek word. School. Greek word. Academy. Greek word. Energy. Greek word. Electricity. Greek word.
    Petroleum. Greek word. Automatic. Greek word. Architecture. Zoo. Greek
    word. Telephone. Greek word. Pyrotechnics. Greek word. Cosmos. Greek
    word. Astronomy. Greek word. Greek word. Theropod. Greek word.
    Encephalogram. Greek word. Cephalopod. Greek word. Gramophone. Greek
    word. Circle. Greek word. Triangle. Greek word. Parallel. Greek word. Parasite. Greek word. Halogen. Greek word. Mathematics. Greek word.

    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.

    Algebra. Arabic word. Alcohol. Arabic word...

    Now you were saying?
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 13:20:13 2026
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    Verily, in article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.


    That's an overstatement. We're a Germanic language with a strong French influence. Our common everyday words are mostly Anglo-Saxon. The French influence gave us a lot of words with Latin roots. The Greek stuff is
    mostly learned borrowings.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho on Wed May 20 20:36:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho


    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.

    That's an overstatement.

    I can't comment on the actual percentages as my knowledge
    base doesn't go that far but one thing I did learn was that
    most words that start ph___ and sound like an f are from
    Greek... photo, phrase, physical, phrase, pharmacy... (etc.)

    And to make it relevant to RADW, another word derived from
    Greek... psych-ward ! ;-)

    Carry on...


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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho on Wed May 20 20:37:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho


    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]


    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free
    hydrogen in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and
    the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own
    system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and
    smush it all together. Perhaps some of the gas giants will be
    stars for a few millennia at that time, before joining the
    black hole.

    You do know that's going to go over his head, right?

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho on Wed May 20 20:41:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 12:12 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level
    English Language and O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent)
    exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think
    I even passed Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I
    think) compares to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14
    -15 years old getting tested I.E. Aust Year 9 .

    Back in the Day, I think we had Year Ten Intermediate
    (15-16y.o.), Year Eleven Leaving (16-17y.o.)and Year Twelve
    Matriculation (17-18y.o.).

    Maybe it's just me, but I find a discussion about levels of
    education taking place on RADW [of all places] quite humorous....

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 20:45:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho


    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe.

    No, he will... if it's part of the script that's online.

    (I've looked into my crystal ball and I can see that Dave
    will post a twelve line synopsis of "City of Death" later on
    this year, say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10
    rating]
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 22:18:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4477859ce0657592989ed9@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]


    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen in the
    solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.


    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?


    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush it
    all together. Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few >millennia at that time, before joining the black hole.


    A collosial spectacular event.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 22:19:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 14:14, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uk94q$3vc75$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 01:01, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui4r7$3djuk$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:37, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun in
    Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any sun,
    ie. a star orbited by planets.


    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and Luna
    for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's only used by Italians and some science fiction writers. E E Smith >>>>> referred to Earth as Tellus in his Lensman series.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.


    But only the modern Italians use it. Everyone else uses their own native >>>>> names for Earth and the Sun. If there's going to be a common term that >>>>> aliens will use it will either be the original English terms or with the >>>>> way things are going Chinese. You better get used to Diqiu and Taiyang. >>>>>

    Fortissimo is latin?

    Tempus fugit.


    So what?


    Italian is derived from Latin.


    So what?

    BTW most scientific words are latin based.


    Oh, you mean like Physics? No, wait that's a Greek word. Chemistry?
    Wait, that's a Greek word too. Biology? Another Greek word, and
    everything ending with -logy is a Greek word too. Inertia. Greek word. >Thermodynamics. Greek word. Logistics. Greek word. School. Greek word. >Academy. Greek word. Energy. Greek word. Electricity. Greek word.
    Petroleum. Greek word. Automatic. Greek word. Architecture. Zoo. Greek
    word. Telephone. Greek word. Pyrotechnics. Greek word. Cosmos. Greek
    word. Astronomy. Greek word. Greek word. Theropod. Greek word. >Encephalogram. Greek word. Cephalopod. Greek word. Gramophone. Greek
    word. Circle. Greek word. Triangle. Greek word. Parallel. Greek word. >Parasite. Greek word. Halogen. Greek word. Mathematics. Greek word.

    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.

    English is a Germanic language.


    Algebra. Arabic word. Alcohol. Arabic word...

    Now you were saying?


    About English adapting other words into the langauge.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 22:19:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4477b75c15d0df6a989eda@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.


    That's an overstatement. We're a Germanic language with a strong French >influence. Our common everyday words are mostly Anglo-Saxon. The French >influence gave us a lot of words with Latin roots. The Greek stuff is
    mostly learned borrowings.


    Time for AGA to join alt.usage.english .

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 22:20:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq0e59lr7os7004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe (Word used by paedophiles
    to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup).

    No, he will... if it's part of the script that's online.

    (I've looked into my crystal ball and I can see that Dave
    will post a twelve line synopsis of "City of Death" later on
    this year, say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10
    rating]

    Areyou a bot in disguise?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Wed May 20 22:21:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq0dwzlqvnwv001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.

    That's an overstatement.

    I can't comment on the actual percentages as my knowledge
    base doesn't go that far but one thing I did learn was that
    most words that start ph___ and sound like an f are from
    Greek... photo, phrase, physical, phrase, pharmacy... (etc.)

    And to make it relevant to RADW, another word derived from
    Greek... psych-ward ! ;-)

    Carry on...



    You are not amusing.

    BTW, psych-ward is a natural place for atheists.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Wed May 20 22:22:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq0dyvlqyf42002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]


    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free
    hydrogen in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and
    the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own
    system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and
    smush it all together. Perhaps some of the gas giants will be
    stars for a few millennia at that time, before joining the
    black hole.

    You do know that's going to go over his head, right?


    Nope!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Wed May 20 22:22:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq0e1klr2cbt003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 12:12 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level
    English Language and O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent)
    exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think
    I even passed Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I
    think) compares to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14
    -15 years old getting tested I.E. Aust Year 9 .

    Back in the Day, I think we had Year Ten Intermediate
    (15-16y.o.), Year Eleven Leaving (16-17y.o.)and Year Twelve
    Matriculation (17-18y.o.).

    Maybe it's just me, but I find a discussion about levels of
    education taking place on RADW [of all places] quite humorous....


    So how does Ireland work?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 23:42:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 18:20, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.


    That's an overstatement.

    No it isn't. You can literally write entire essays spanning pages and
    pages where every single word has a Greek origin.

    See a famous example here: https://greekreporter.com/2026/02/09/speaking-english-using-greek-zolotas/

    We're a Germanic language with a strong French> influence. Our common
    everyday words are mostly Anglo-Saxon. The French
    influence gave us a lot of words with Latin roots. The Greek stuff is
    mostly learned borrowings.


    That's not true. The number of German words in the English language are
    very limited. Germanic words were so limited that if you wanted to write anything academic you had to write it in Latin even in Isaac Newton's
    time (who as we all know according to the woke pervert RTD was from India).

    Most of the technical terms in English and most of the vocabulary is
    derived from Greek, French, and through French directly from Latin.

    If you look at German it has almost no native technical terminology
    whatsoever so most of the words in German are made up of long strings of smaller words describing what something does, or how it is used, or what
    it looks like or are ultimately of Latin or Greek origin. This is why
    the Normans used French as the administrative language even up until the
    18th century. Anglo-Saxon was incapable of such a purpose and the
    Anglo-Saxons did their administration in Latin. Before that the Britons
    who formed the indigenous population and who contributed the most
    genetically to British DNA spoke Welsh and Welsh is from the
    Italo-Celtic family as is Scotts and Irish which are both Gaelic closely related to French, so much so that the Gauls could understand everything Julius Caesar wrote in his orders to his troops even if they were
    encrypted, so he switched to writing them down in Greek. Once again
    these Italo-Celtic languages were incapable of being used for
    administration, and neither was French until it incorporated technical
    terms from Latin and Greek.

    Most English people can't read or understand a word of Beowulf in the
    original language but can read and understand Latin from the same period
    or earlier far more easily if they learned basic French at school,
    because English is mostly derived from French, not Anglo-Saxon.

    Almost all English words have either Greek or Latin roots and the ones
    with Latin roots are ultimately words of Greek origin that were
    incorporated into Latin for technical and administrative purposes. This
    is still done today in the sciences rather than making up the terms the
    German way by compounding English words, Greek and Latin words (most of
    which are of Greek origin) are compounded instead.

    Remember William Shakespeare made up half the words in English all by
    himself by deriving them from existing words which ultimately are rooted
    in Greek or Latin, and through Latin back to Greek.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 00:10:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 23:20, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq0e59lr7os7004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe (Word used by paedophiles
    to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup).

    No, he will... if it's part of the script that's online.

    (I've looked into my crystal ball and I can see that Dave
    will post a twelve line synopsis of "City of Death" later on
    this year, say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10
    rating]

    Areyou a bot in disguise?

    He isn't, but you are.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho on Thu May 21 00:11:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 23:22, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq0e1klr2cbt003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 12:12 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level
    English Language and O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent)
    exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think
    I even passed Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I
    think) compares to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14
    -15 years old getting tested I.E. Aust Year 9 .

    Back in the Day, I think we had Year Ten Intermediate
    (15-16y.o.), Year Eleven Leaving (16-17y.o.)and Year Twelve
    Matriculation (17-18y.o.).

    Maybe it's just me, but I find a discussion about levels of
    education taking place on RADW [of all places] quite humorous....


    So how does Ireland work?

    Obviously to higher level than Australia and Canada, especially Canada.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Wed May 20 19:16:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10uldd7$btef$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Agree to disagree?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 03:07:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uldd7$btef$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 18:20, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.


    That's an overstatement.

    No it isn't. You can literally write entire essays spanning pages and
    pages where every single word has a Greek origin.

    See a famous example here: >https://greekreporter.com/2026/02/09/speaking-english-using-greek-zolotas/

    We're a Germanic language with a strong French> influence. Our common
    everyday words are mostly Anglo-Saxon. The French
    influence gave us a lot of words with Latin roots. The Greek stuff is
    mostly learned borrowings.


    That's not true. The number of German words in the English language are
    very limited. Germanic words were so limited that if you wanted to write >anything academic you had to write it in Latin even in Isaac Newton's
    time (who as we all know according to the woke pervert RTD was from India).

    Most of the technical terms in English and most of the vocabulary is
    derived from Greek, French, and through French directly from Latin.

    If you look at German it has almost no native technical terminology >whatsoever so most of the words in German are made up of long strings of >smaller words describing what something does, or how it is used, or what
    it looks like or are ultimately of Latin or Greek origin. This is why
    the Normans used French as the administrative language even up until the >18th century. Anglo-Saxon was incapable of such a purpose and the >Anglo-Saxons did their administration in Latin. Before that the Britons
    who formed the indigenous population and who contributed the most >genetically to British DNA spoke Welsh and Welsh is from the
    Italo-Celtic family as is Scotts and Irish which are both Gaelic closely >related to French, so much so that the Gauls could understand everything >Julius Caesar wrote in his orders to his troops even if they were
    encrypted, so he switched to writing them down in Greek. Once again
    these Italo-Celtic languages were incapable of being used for >administration, and neither was French until it incorporated technical
    terms from Latin and Greek.

    Most English people can't read or understand a word of Beowulf in the >original language but can read and understand Latin from the same period
    or earlier far more easily if they learned basic French at school,
    because English is mostly derived from French, not Anglo-Saxon.

    Almost all English words have either Greek or Latin roots and the ones
    with Latin roots are ultimately words of Greek origin that were
    incorporated into Latin for technical and administrative purposes. This
    is still done today in the sciences rather than making up the terms the >German way by compounding English words, Greek and Latin words (most of >which are of Greek origin) are compounded instead.

    Remember William Shakespeare made up half the words in English all by >himself by deriving them from existing words which ultimately are rooted
    in Greek or Latin, and through Latin back to Greek.


    Then why Is English classified as a Germanic language?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 03:07:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ulf0i$c9iq$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 23:20, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq0e59lr7os7004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe (Word used by paedophiles
    to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup).

    No, he will... if it's part of the script that's online.

    (I've looked into my crystal ball and I can see that Dave
    will post a twelve line synopsis of "City of Death" later on
    this year, say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10
    rating]

    Areyou a bot in disguise?

    He isn't, but you are.


    Nah.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 03:08:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.44780ad81cca5ee7989edb@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uldd7$btef$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Agree to disagree?


    I am with Mellisa.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Thu May 21 03:09:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ulf3k$c9iq$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 23:22, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq0e1klr2cbt003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 12:12 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhgug$3754l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 1:26 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    Did anyone here apart from me pass their O-Level
    English Language and O-Level Mathematics (or equivalent)
    exams with decent grades?

    Not me!! Year Eleven Maths and English, sure, and I think
    I even passed Year Twelve English.

    I've got no idea how Your O-Levels (Ordinary-Levels, I
    think) compares to our Years Eleven and Twelve..

    IIRC O-Level is in North Anerica Grade 9 tests so I.E. 14
    -15 years old getting tested I.E. Aust Year 9 .

    Back in the Day, I think we had Year Ten Intermediate
    (15-16y.o.), Year Eleven Leaving (16-17y.o.)and Year Twelve
    Matriculation (17-18y.o.).

    Maybe it's just me, but I find a discussion about levels of
    education taking place on RADW [of all places] quite humorous....


    So how does Ireland work?

    Obviously to higher level than Australia and Canada, especially Canada.


    Canada is 13 eduction systems.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 05:06:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    +On 21/05/2026 04:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uldd7$btef$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 18:20, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.


    That's an overstatement.

    No it isn't. You can literally write entire essays spanning pages and
    pages where every single word has a Greek origin.

    See a famous example here:
    https://greekreporter.com/2026/02/09/speaking-english-using-greek-zolotas/ >>
    We're a Germanic language with a strong French> influence. Our common
    everyday words are mostly Anglo-Saxon. The French
    influence gave us a lot of words with Latin roots. The Greek stuff is
    mostly learned borrowings.


    That's not true. The number of German words in the English language are
    very limited. Germanic words were so limited that if you wanted to write
    anything academic you had to write it in Latin even in Isaac Newton's
    time (who as we all know according to the woke pervert RTD was from India). >>
    Most of the technical terms in English and most of the vocabulary is
    derived from Greek, French, and through French directly from Latin.

    If you look at German it has almost no native technical terminology
    whatsoever so most of the words in German are made up of long strings of
    smaller words describing what something does, or how it is used, or what
    it looks like or are ultimately of Latin or Greek origin. This is why
    the Normans used French as the administrative language even up until the
    18th century. Anglo-Saxon was incapable of such a purpose and the
    Anglo-Saxons did their administration in Latin. Before that the Britons
    who formed the indigenous population and who contributed the most
    genetically to British DNA spoke Welsh and Welsh is from the
    Italo-Celtic family as is Scotts and Irish which are both Gaelic closely
    related to French, so much so that the Gauls could understand everything
    Julius Caesar wrote in his orders to his troops even if they were
    encrypted, so he switched to writing them down in Greek. Once again
    these Italo-Celtic languages were incapable of being used for
    administration, and neither was French until it incorporated technical
    terms from Latin and Greek.

    Most English people can't read or understand a word of Beowulf in the
    original language but can read and understand Latin from the same period
    or earlier far more easily if they learned basic French at school,
    because English is mostly derived from French, not Anglo-Saxon.

    Almost all English words have either Greek or Latin roots and the ones
    with Latin roots are ultimately words of Greek origin that were
    incorporated into Latin for technical and administrative purposes. This
    is still done today in the sciences rather than making up the terms the
    German way by compounding English words, Greek and Latin words (most of
    which are of Greek origin) are compounded instead.

    Remember William Shakespeare made up half the words in English all by
    himself by deriving them from existing words which ultimately are rooted
    in Greek or Latin, and through Latin back to Greek.


    Then why Is English classified as a Germanic language?


    Because the Anglo-Saxons were a Germanic people.

    English since 1066 mostly derives from Norman French along with Latin
    and Greek which superseded most of the original Anglo-Saxon. English is
    a hybrid language.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 16:44:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 5:45 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe.

    No, he will... if it's part of the script that's online.

    (I've looked into my crystal ball and I can see that Dave
    will post a twelve line synopsis of "City of Death" later on
    this year, say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10
    rating]

    "say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10 rating]"??

    You wouldn't be suggesting that the Asswipe is a bit of a Leech ("One
    that preys on or clings to another; a parasite.") would you, Blueshirt??

    His Minister would be soooooo pleased! .... NOT!!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 16:51:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 2:26 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui2j7$3cthn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:26, The True Melissa wrote:

    <Snip>

    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's >>>>> system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to >>>>> using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through >>>>
    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.

    5th Pleant in which Solar System?

    In the solar system of GALLIFREY! You've been told that repeatedly.

    I said this Solar System.

    Mind You I wonder where SP is hiding?

    Why, Asswipe?? Are YOU hoping Solar Penguin might come to your Rescue, Asswipe?? .... I doubt he will.

    And how come YOU, Asswipe, aren't relying on Aggy's support, Asswipe??
    Or have you now realised that Aggy doesn't always agree with YOU, Asswipe??
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 16:57:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 10:09 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uioi1$3jbgf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 18:41, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming >>>>>> asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script >>>>>> and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which >>>>>> it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the >>>>> theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.

    Did the Earth break up when it got hit by the asteroid that wiped out
    the dinosaurs (except for birds)? Did the Earth break up and form an
    asteroid belt when it collied with another planet to form the moon? No >>>> of course it didn't and that theory was going around since at least the >>>> early 70s long before Image of the Fendahl was made. There is therefore >>>> no kind of suggestion of an asteroid belt being formed.

    A comet's a lot bigger than an asteroid, and traveling very quickly.

    So was the planet that collided with Earth that formed the moon.

    And we have a planet satellite system.

    Yes, we do, Asswipe. So WHAT??

    <Snip>

    It's the only idea that makes sense. Everything in the script points
    towards Gallifrey, the Time Lords interfering, and the 5th planet being
    in their solar system. You'd have to rewrite the laws of English
    language comprehension, physics, and mathematics for it to be otherwise.

    Consistency please.

    Join in anytime SP.

    Come on, Solar Penguin. The Asswipe wants/needs your support!!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 17:00:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 10:08 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44766ae77c2ba6f8989ed3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    <Snip>

    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor
    left. They're all completely insular. They didn't even found
    any colonies, so why would something that was not inside
    their own solar system influence their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you
    don't eat

    Why would it know about Gallifrey?

    Why would it need to? All that's necessary is that the Gallifreyans
    know about it.

    Russia 1905?

    Close, Asswipe, but no cookie!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 17:10:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 19/05/2026 10:45 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    The stars are orbiting a common barycenter, but what about Gallifrey? It could be orbiting the pair or directly orbiting the larger one.

    To some extent, you could equate it to The Sun, The Earth and The Moon.

    The major influence on The Moon's orbit would be The Earth due to The
    Earth being much closer to The Moon.

    Sure, The Sun would have SOME influence due to its hugemungess size ....
    but that is moderated by its much greater distance from The Moon.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 17:21:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.4476475be19b1427989ece@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhrnm$27h4$16@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    If the barycenter is inside Earth, then as I understand it, the moon
    does orbit Earth. It's when the barycenter is outside that we say they
    orbit each other. Pluton and Charon are a classic example, with the
    barycenter inside neither.

    I love how we talk about all kinds of things in this group. I guess
    that's one of the great parts about a show like Doctor Who. We can dive
    deep into history, astronomy, mythology, and a whole lot of other
    things.

    What about the 4 PRotoStars in the Solar System?

    What about them?

    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    WHAT about "Newtonian Physics", Asswipe?? Why are YOU, Asswipe,
    referring to him/it??

    and that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.

    SORRY!! Did I miss THAT News announcement?? Or is the Asswipe referring
    to the Four GAS Giants on our Solar System?? No Proto-Stars!!

    And, in any case, as the vast VAST majority of the Matter in The Solar
    System is already contained with-in the established Bodies, Comets and Asteroids, I very much doubt there will be any new 'stars' forming in
    OUR Stellar System.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 17:26:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uisl3$3ka7b$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article
    <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>, The True
    Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics and that those protostars
    can be as powerful as our sun one day.

    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called
    "failed stars," though the only failure is not attracting
    enough matter.

    Of course that could change.

    No it couldn't. They're not anywhere large enough to be protostars
    or attain nuclear fusion. They're ordinary gas giants.

    Atar do go through a life cycle.

    "Atar"?? What The ....?? Maybe The asswipe meant "Atari" .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 17:39:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen
    in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush
    it all together.

    But 'WE' will have collided with The Andromeda Galaxy before than!! Only
    about 2.5 Billion years?

    Quote
    The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies have about a 50% chance of
    colliding with each other in the next 10 billion years,[15] merging to potentially form a giant elliptical galaxy[16] or a large lenticular galaxy.[17]
    End Quote.

    Oh! No, We can relax .... 10 Billion years!!

    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 17:44:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 10:11 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uiq5l$3jo4j$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:32, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    What? Stop making up bullphysics. Everything orbits the common
    centre of gravity which in the case of our solar system is almost smack
    bang in the middle of the sun and both the Earth and the Sun and all the
    other planets orbit around that.

    For a binary system with similar sized stars it would be somewhere
    between the two stars and this fact would make the climate on any planet
    orbiting the same centre of mass completely unstable by causing it to go
    from extreme heat to extreme cold or less extreme heat. Also the orbits
    of the planets would keep shifting and eventually become unstable if
    certain criteria are not met to achieve stability.

    Does he know Newton?

    Well, I can;t comment for Aggy but I know I've NEVER met Newton, Asswipe!!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 17:48:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 12:17 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    <Snip>

    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in the South!! >>
    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    And Vampires!! When have we ever heard of Vampires on Gallifrey?? Is
    THAT what makes The Time Lords so different to the ordinary Gallifreyans??

    Vampires were enemies of Gallifrey.

    TIme Lords can regenerate. Ordinary people cannot regenate!

    And do get me started about the Chibnal perversino
    of regenerating cyberGallifreyans.

    Oh!! O.K. Asswipe, I will get you 'started about the Chibnal perversino (whatever 'perversino' is??) of regenerating cyberGallifreyans.'

    Tell us more, Asswipe!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 18:15:41 2026
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    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol
    means sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's
    name, and Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct! The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek
    because biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology ....
    the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 09:25:40 2026
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    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 5:45 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe.

    No, he will... if it's part of the script that's online.

    (I've looked into my crystal ball and I can see that Dave
    will post a twelve line synopsis of "City of Death" later on
    this year, say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10
    rating]

    "say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10 rating]"??

    You wouldn't be suggesting that the Asswipe is a bit of a
    Leech ("One that preys on or clings to another; a parasite.")
    would you, Blueshirt??

    Well... it wouldn't be unknown for Dave to label a companion as
    being "hot"! But fair's fair, Lalla Ward was pretty, and Tom
    Baker obviously found her hot. So in this case it would be a
    legitimate comment.

    I was more a fan of Romana v1.0 myself, but we'll do all that in
    a few weeks time

    His Minister would be soooooo pleased! .... NOT!!

    I could point out who I think his Minister would find "hot"
    but it's early in the morning and everyone knows where I'd go
    with it. So I will just sup my tea and move on...

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 09:25:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 2:26 am, The Doctor wrote:

    I said this Solar System.

    Mind You I wonder where SP is hiding?

    Why, Asswipe?? Are YOU hoping Solar Penguin might come to
    your Rescue, Asswipe?? .... I doubt he will.

    He's another one keeping his head down and hoping it all
    (whatever 'all' is) blows over...

    But Penguin does pop in with his reasoned wisdom from time to
    time... however, I don't think I can remember a day when he's
    actually agreed with Mr Yadallee on anything. If he has, I must
    have been busy that day!

    And how come YOU, Asswipe, aren't relying on Aggy's support,
    Asswipe?? Or have you now realised that Aggy doesn't always
    agree with YOU, Asswipe??

    Does anyone? I mean, really? !

    AGA used to be Dave's online 'friend' but it seems there's a
    limit to how much inane gobbledygook a person can put up with...

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho on Thu May 21 09:33:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 23:22, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq0e1klr2cbt003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Maybe it's just me, but I find a discussion about levels
    of education taking place on RADW [of all places] quite
    humorous....

    So how does Ireland work?

    Obviously to higher level than Australia and Canada,
    especially Canada.

    I'm just amazed that a person can be a CEO of a tech company in
    2026 yet they can't read, understand what they read or compose a
    sentence properly... I don't mean properly to equate with 'Full
    Professor of English' level... but just a basic comprehension
    level!
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 09:38:36 2026
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    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:

    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    WHAT about "Newtonian Physics", Asswipe??

    Is this a rhetorical question or can we all join in?

    Why are YOU, Asswipe, referring to him/it??

    Take your pick...

    1) They are both of Indian descent

    2) Dave gets confused and doesn't know what he means.

    3) Dave is cleverer than everyone and we are all imbeciles.


    One of the above answers is correct.

    Probably.

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 09:40:17 2026
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    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 10:11 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Does he know Newton?

    Well, I can't comment for Aggy but I know I've NEVER
    met Newton, Asswipe!!

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 20:30:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 7:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:

    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    WHAT about "Newtonian Physics", Asswipe??

    Is this a rhetorical question or can we all join in?

    Oh, please do join in, Blueshirt .... but please don't rush in .... give
    The asswipe a bit of a chance to answer first. ;-P

    Why are YOU, Asswipe, referring to him/it??

    Take your pick...

    1) They are both of Indian descent

    2) Dave gets confused and doesn't know what he means.

    3) Dave is cleverer than everyone and we are all imbeciles.


    One of the above answers is correct.

    Probably.

    I'm going for 2) .... with a little of 1).
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 20:36:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhkks$389j1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    Or is AGA that ground that he thinks the 5th Planet is a fifth
    planet around the Gallifrey System?

    I give up!!--
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 20:39:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 20/05/2026 3:05 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:21, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    It was held in a cauldron above the top of the chariot so you could see
    it from all directions.

    Ah!! O.K., that sounds reasonable.

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    He wants to impress us with his AI scripting ability from the 1980s. AI scripting has progressed a lot since his scripts were made. He should
    try incorporating Grok in them. I think there's a script to do that on GitHub.

    .... and are 'WE' so impressed?? Not me.
    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:39:59 2026
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    In article <10um0b9$g0vr$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    +On 21/05/2026 04:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uldd7$btef$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 18:20, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukogt$4fmv$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    98% of the English language is derived from Greek.


    That's an overstatement.

    No it isn't. You can literally write entire essays spanning pages and
    pages where every single word has a Greek origin.

    See a famous example here:
    https://greekreporter.com/2026/02/09/speaking-english-using-greek-zolotas/ >>>
    We're a Germanic language with a strong French> influence. Our common
    everyday words are mostly Anglo-Saxon. The French
    influence gave us a lot of words with Latin roots. The Greek stuff is
    mostly learned borrowings.


    That's not true. The number of German words in the English language are
    very limited. Germanic words were so limited that if you wanted to write >>> anything academic you had to write it in Latin even in Isaac Newton's
    time (who as we all know according to the woke pervert RTD was from India). >>>
    Most of the technical terms in English and most of the vocabulary is
    derived from Greek, French, and through French directly from Latin.

    If you look at German it has almost no native technical terminology
    whatsoever so most of the words in German are made up of long strings of >>> smaller words describing what something does, or how it is used, or what >>> it looks like or are ultimately of Latin or Greek origin. This is why
    the Normans used French as the administrative language even up until the >>> 18th century. Anglo-Saxon was incapable of such a purpose and the
    Anglo-Saxons did their administration in Latin. Before that the Britons
    who formed the indigenous population and who contributed the most
    genetically to British DNA spoke Welsh and Welsh is from the
    Italo-Celtic family as is Scotts and Irish which are both Gaelic closely >>> related to French, so much so that the Gauls could understand everything >>> Julius Caesar wrote in his orders to his troops even if they were
    encrypted, so he switched to writing them down in Greek. Once again
    these Italo-Celtic languages were incapable of being used for
    administration, and neither was French until it incorporated technical
    terms from Latin and Greek.

    Most English people can't read or understand a word of Beowulf in the
    original language but can read and understand Latin from the same period >>> or earlier far more easily if they learned basic French at school,
    because English is mostly derived from French, not Anglo-Saxon.

    Almost all English words have either Greek or Latin roots and the ones
    with Latin roots are ultimately words of Greek origin that were
    incorporated into Latin for technical and administrative purposes. This
    is still done today in the sciences rather than making up the terms the
    German way by compounding English words, Greek and Latin words (most of
    which are of Greek origin) are compounded instead.

    Remember William Shakespeare made up half the words in English all by
    himself by deriving them from existing words which ultimately are rooted >>> in Greek or Latin, and through Latin back to Greek.


    Then why Is English classified as a Germanic language?


    Because the Anglo-Saxons were a Germanic people.

    English since 1066 mostly derives from Norman French along with Latin
    and Greek which superseded most of the original Anglo-Saxon. English is
    a hybrid language.


    All right . That argument is rational.

    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:42:01 2026
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    In article <10um9lb$i4qi$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 5:45 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe.

    No, he will... if it's part of the script that's online.

    (I've looked into my crystal ball and I can see that Dave
    will post a twelve line synopsis of "City of Death" later on
    this year, say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10
    rating]

    "say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10 rating]"??

    You wouldn't be suggesting that the Asswipes(Word used by paedophiles to >indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup)is
    a bit of a Leech ("One that preys on or clings to another; a parasite.") >would you, Blueshirt??

    His Minister would be soooooo pleased! .... NOT!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:43:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uma1o$i8ac$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:26 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui2j7$3cthn$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:02, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 11:26, The True Melissa wrote:

    <Snip>

    The only real reason to think that the Fendahl came from Gallifrey's >>>>>> system is the reference to Gallifreyan mythology and specifically to >>>>>> using the Fendahl to frighten children. The Time Lords travel through >>>>>
    Exactly. It's the only possible way to interpret that sentence of
    dialogue and everything that came after it.

    5th Pleant in which Solar System?

    In the solar system of GALLIFREY! You've been told that repeatedly.

    I said this Solar System.

    Mind You I wonder where SP is hiding?

    Why, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual >molestation coverup)?? Are YOU hoping Solar Penguin might come to your Rescue,
    Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual >molestation coverup)?? .... I doubt he will.

    And how come YOU, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of >child sexual molestation coverup), aren't relying on Aggy's support, >Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual >molestation coverup)??
    Or have you now realised that Aggy doesn't always agree with YOU, Asswipe(Word >used by paedophiles to indicate their joy
    of child sexual molestation coverup)??
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:45:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10umac4$iapu$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:09 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uioi1$3jbgf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 18:41, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Planets do not go spontaneously breaking themselves apart and forming >>>>>>> asteroid belts. There is no reference any asteroid belt in the script >>>>>>> and an inhabited planet wouldn't be sitting in the middle of one, which >>>>>>> it wasn't in any case from the distance given.

    I don't think anyone ever thought it was spontaneous. As I heard it, the >>>>>> theory involved a cataclysm, maybe a good thump from a comet.

    Did the Earth break up when it got hit by the asteroid that wiped out >>>>> the dinosaurs (except for birds)? Did the Earth break up and form an >>>>> asteroid belt when it collied with another planet to form the moon? No >>>>> of course it didn't and that theory was going around since at least the >>>>> early 70s long before Image of the Fendahl was made. There is therefore >>>>> no kind of suggestion of an asteroid belt being formed.

    A comet's a lot bigger than an asteroid, and traveling very quickly.

    So was the planet that collided with Earth that formed the moon.

    And we have a planet satellite system.

    Yes, we do, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy
    of child sexual molestation coverup). So WHAT??

    <Snip>

    It's the only idea that makes sense. Everything in the script points
    towards Gallifrey, the Time Lords interfering, and the 5th planet being
    in their solar system. You'd have to rewrite the laws of English
    language comprehension, physics, and mathematics for it to be otherwise.

    Consistency please.

    Join in anytime SP.

    Come on, Solar Penguin. The Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate >their joy of child sexual molestation coverup) wants/needs your support!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:46:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10umaj8$icrk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:08 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.44766ae77c2ba6f8989ed3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui3er$3d68h$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 19/05/2026 17:13, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ui0ao$3c621$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    <Snip>

    Except they don't and it doesn't. That's why the Doctor
    left. They're all completely insular. They didn't even found
    any colonies, so why would something that was not inside
    their own solar system influence their own mythology?

    Probably because the Fendahl can move across space. If you
    don't eat

    Why would it know about Gallifrey?

    Why would it need to? All that's necessary is that the Gallifreyans
    know about it.

    Russia 1905?

    Close, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual >molestation coverup), but no cookie!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:46:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10umb5n$ihqh$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 10:45 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    The stars are orbiting a common barycenter, but what about Gallifrey? It
    could be orbiting the pair or directly orbiting the larger one.

    To some extent, you could equate it to The Sun, The Earth and The Moon.

    The major influence on The Moon's orbit would be The Earth due to The
    Earth being much closer to The Moon.

    Sure, The Sun would have SOME influence due to its hugemungess size ....
    but that is moderated by its much greater distance from The Moon.

    Tidal waves for you.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:48:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10umbqe$ing5$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.4476475be19b1427989ece@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhrnm$27h4$16@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uhl8j$38fs3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon >>>>> doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    If the barycenter is inside Earth, then as I understand it, the moon
    does orbit Earth. It's when the barycenter is outside that we say they
    orbit each other. Pluton and Charon are a classic example, with the
    barycenter inside neither.

    I love how we talk about all kinds of things in this group. I guess
    that's one of the great parts about a show like Doctor Who. We can dive
    deep into history, astronomy, mythology, and a whole lot of other
    things.

    What about the 4 PRotoStars in the Solar System?

    What about them?

    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    WHAT about "Newtonian Physics", Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate >their joy of child sexual molestation coverup)?? Why are YOU, Asswipe(Word >used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup),
    referring to him/it??

    and that those protostars can be as powerful as our sun one day.

    SORRY!! Did I miss THAT News announcement?? Or is the Asswipe(Word used by >paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup) >referring
    to the Four GAS Giants on our Solar System?? No Proto-Stars!!

    And, in any case, as the vast VAST majority of the Matter in The Solar >System is already contained with-in the established Bodies, Comets and >Asteroids, I very much doubt there will be any new 'stars' forming in
    OUR Stellar System.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:49:16 2026
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    In article <10umc3v$ipv4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uisl3$3ka7b$2@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 17:07, The Doctor wrote:
    In article
    <MPG.44765121cbe063f0989ed0@news.eternal-september.org>, The True
    Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhvte$305m$7@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    I am referring to Newtonian Physics and that those protostars
    can be as powerful as our sun one day.

    None of them are big enough to ignite. They're often called
    "failed stars," though the only failure is not attracting
    enough matter.

    Of course that could change.

    No it couldn't. They're not anywhere large enough to be protostars
    or attain nuclear fusion. They're ordinary gas giants.

    Atar do go through a life cycle.

    "Atar"?? What The ....?? Maybe The asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to >indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup) meant "Atari" .... >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:50:05 2026
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    In article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen
    in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush
    it all together.

    But 'WE' will have collided with The Andromeda Galaxy before than!! Only >about 2.5 Billion years?

    Quote
    The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies have about a 50% chance of
    colliding with each other in the next 10 billion years,[15] merging to >potentially form a giant elliptical galaxy[16] or a large lenticular >galaxy.[17]
    End Quote.

    Oh! No, We can relax .... 10 Billion years!!


    There are 2 DW instance, 1 is the Ark.

    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:51:03 2026
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    In article <10umd4g$j06a$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:11 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uiq5l$3jo4j$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:32, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 9:59 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in
    the South!!

    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    It didn't orbit the smaller star, so the smaller star didn't have a
    straight path across the sky. Makes sense to me.

    The two stars would have orbited a common mid-point just as The Moon
    doesn't really orbit The Earth, they both orbit a common mid-point,
    which I think is just below The Earth's crust but nowhere near the
    middle of The Earth.

    What? Stop making up bullphysics. Everything orbits the common
    centre of gravity which in the case of our solar system is almost smack
    bang in the middle of the sun and both the Earth and the Sun and all the >>> other planets orbit around that.

    For a binary system with similar sized stars it would be somewhere
    between the two stars and this fact would make the climate on any planet >>> orbiting the same centre of mass completely unstable by causing it to go >>> from extreme heat to extreme cold or less extreme heat. Also the orbits >>> of the planets would keep shifting and eventually become unstable if
    certain criteria are not met to achieve stability.

    Does he know Newton?

    Well, I can;t comment for Aggy but I know I've NEVER met Newton, Asswipe(Word >used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup)!!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 20:51:56 2026
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    On 20/05/2026 3:11 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:06, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 7:43 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't
    the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun
    in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any
    sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    If the Gallifreyans had, at some time, spoked Latin, then, Yes, they

    No they spoke Greek. Old High Gallifreyan was written in Greek characters.
    might have called their STAR Sol and (but which one ... if they are in
    a Binary Star system??), therefore, Gallifrey would be in a Solar
    System .... but what would the chances of THAT having occurred be?

    Long Odds, I might suggest!!

    Gallifrey would be in a solar system no matter what language they spoke. Their sun would have been called the sun in all Gallifreyan languages.
    Solar system is a generic scientific term for all bodies orbiting or interacting with a star through gravity.

    I may have to pull my head in (a bit) as Wikipedia gives the following ....

    Quote
    Capitalization of the name varies. When not used as a proper noun and
    written without capitalization, "solar system" may refer to either the
    Solar System itself or any planetary system reminiscent of the Solar System.[15] The International Astronomical Union, the authoritative body regarding astronomical nomenclature, specifies capitalizing the names of
    all individual astronomical objects but uses mixed "Solar System" and
    "solar system" structures in their naming guidelines document.[20]
    End Quote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System

    If it's good enough for the IAS ....
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:52:23 2026
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    In article <10umdcu$j52c$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 12:17 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhiru$37npd$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    <Snip>

    The second star seemed to rise in the East .... and both set in the South!! >>>
    What a wacko orbit Gallifrey must have!!

    And Vampires!! When have we ever heard of Vampires on Gallifrey?? Is
    THAT what makes The Time Lords so different to the ordinary Gallifreyans?? >>
    Vampires were enemies of Gallifrey.

    TIme Lords can regenerate. Ordinary people cannot regenate!

    And do get me started about the Chibnal perversino
    of regenerating cyberGallifreyans.

    Oh!! O.K. Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child >sexual molestation coverup), I will get you 'started about the Chibnal >perversino
    (whatever 'perversino' is??) of regenerating cyberGallifreyans.'

    Tell us more, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy
    of child sexual molestation coverup)!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:54:11 2026
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    In article <10umevd$jef2$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol
    means sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's
    name, and Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct! The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek
    because biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology ....
    the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual >molestation coverup)might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:55:03 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1c6ubhkfj4003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 5:45 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:13 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Come back to that at the City of Death review.

    Sure you will, asswipe.

    No, he will... if it's part of the script that's online.

    (I've looked into my crystal ball and I can see that Dave
    will post a twelve line synopsis of "City of Death" later on
    this year, say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10
    rating]

    "say how hot Lalla Ward is... and give it a 10/10 rating]"??

    You wouldn't be suggesting that the Asswipe is a bit of a
    Leech ("One that preys on or clings to another; a parasite.")
    would you, Blueshirt??

    Well... it wouldn't be unknown for Dave to label a companion as
    being "hot"! But fair's fair, Lalla Ward was pretty, and Tom
    Baker obviously found her hot. So in this case it would be a
    legitimate comment.

    I was more a fan of Romana v1.0 myself, but we'll do all that in
    a few weeks time


    Romana is Romana !

    Like the REAL Doctor!

    His Minister would be soooooo pleased! .... NOT!!

    I could point out who I think his Minister would find "hot"
    but it's early in the morning and everyone knows where I'd go
    with it. So I will just sup my tea and move on...

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:55:25 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1cf0bhw9b8004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 2:26 am, The Doctor wrote:

    I said this Solar System.

    Mind You I wonder where SP is hiding?

    Why, Asswipe?? Are YOU hoping Solar Penguin might come to
    your Rescue, Asswipe?? .... I doubt he will.

    He's another one keeping his head down and hoping it all
    (whatever 'all' is) blows over...

    But Penguin does pop in with his reasoned wisdom from time to
    time... however, I don't think I can remember a day when he's
    actually agreed with Mr Yadallee on anything. If he has, I must
    have been busy that day!

    And how come YOU, Asswipe, aren't relying on Aggy's support,
    Asswipe?? Or have you now realised that Aggy doesn't always
    agree with YOU, Asswipe??

    Does anyone? I mean, really? !

    AGA used to be Dave's online 'friend' but it seems there's a
    limit to how much inane gobbledygook a person can put up with...


    Still is.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:56:07 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1cqwbidev0006@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:

    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    WHAT about "Newtonian Physics", Asswipe??

    Is this a rhetorical question or can we all join in?

    Why are YOU, Asswipe, referring to him/it??

    Take your pick...

    1) They are both of Indian descent

    2) Dave gets confused and doesn't know what he means.

    3) Dave is cleverer than everyone and we are all imbeciles.


    One of the above answers is correct.

    Probably.


    Even did Physics at the age of 17/18 BS?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:56:21 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1csmbifv74007@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 10:11 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Does he know Newton?

    Well, I can't comment for Aggy but I know I've NEVER
    met Newton, Asswipe!!

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    HA! HA!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:57:07 2026
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    In article <10ummsu$lsh4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 7:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:

    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    WHAT about "Newtonian Physics", Asswipe??

    Is this a rhetorical question or can we all join in?

    Oh, please do join in, Blueshirt .... but please don't rush in .... give
    The asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual >molestation coverup) a bit of a chance to answer first. ;-P

    Why are YOU, Asswipe, referring to him/it??

    Take your pick...

    1) They are both of Indian descent

    2) Dave gets confused and doesn't know what he means.

    3) Dave is cleverer than everyone and we are all imbeciles.


    One of the above answers is correct.

    Probably.

    I'm going for 2) .... with a little of 1).
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:58:08 2026
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    In article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uhkks$389j1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy
    of child sexual molestation coverup)??

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    Or is AGA that ground that he thinks the 5th Planet is a fifth
    planet around the Gallifrey System?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:58:41 2026
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    In article <10umnds$m0u9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 3:05 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:21, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 2:16 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 03:45, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because
    the Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'.
    Gallyfreyian's might

    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means
    sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies
    to any sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    have named they star 'SOL', but I doubt it so they don't live
    in a Solar System . Stellar System, sure, but not the Solar
    System.

    The terms solar system and star system (stellar system) are
    interchangeable and hardly anyone uses the term stellar system
    anyway.

    The Sun is a star.

    Oh really? I thought it was a giant torch carried in Helios' chariot
    across the sky.

    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    It was held in a cauldron above the top of the chariot so you could see
    it from all directions.

    Ah!! O.K., that sounds reasonable.


    Atlas's cauldron?

    What exactly is the point that you are trying to make Mr. AI chat
    bot?

    Is he EVER trying to make a point .... or just a post to increase his
    All Important Precise Post Count??

    He wants to impress us with his AI scripting ability from the 1980s. AI
    scripting has progressed a lot since his scripts were made. He should
    try incorporating Grok in them. I think there's a script to do that on
    GitHub.

    .... and are 'WE' so impressed?? Not me.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 10:59:11 2026
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    In article <10umo4e$m808$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 3:11 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 13:06, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 7:43 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 11:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 18/05/2026 3:34 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same
    system as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so
    even if it formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't >>>>>> the one in our Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it
    wouldn't be possible to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system

    A Very minor nit-pick .... We live in THE Solar System because the
    Ancient Greeks (or whomever) named Our Star 'Sol'. Gallyfreyian's might >>>>
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means sun
    in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun system and applies to any
    sun, ie. a star orbited by planets.

    If the Gallifreyans had, at some time, spoked Latin, then, Yes, they

    No they spoke Greek. Old High Gallifreyan was written in Greek characters. >>> might have called their STAR Sol and (but which one ... if they are in
    a Binary Star system??), therefore, Gallifrey would be in a Solar
    System .... but what would the chances of THAT having occurred be?

    Long Odds, I might suggest!!

    Gallifrey would be in a solar system no matter what language they spoke.
    Their sun would have been called the sun in all Gallifreyan languages.
    Solar system is a generic scientific term for all bodies orbiting or
    interacting with a star through gravity.

    I may have to pull my head in (a bit) as Wikipedia gives the following ....

    Quote
    Capitalization of the name varies. When not used as a proper noun and >written without capitalization, "solar system" may refer to either the
    Solar System itself or any planetary system reminiscent of the Solar >System.[15] The International Astronomical Union, the authoritative body >regarding astronomical nomenclature, specifies capitalizing the names of
    all individual astronomical objects but uses mixed "Solar System" and
    "solar system" structures in their naming guidelines document.[20]
    End Quote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System

    If it's good enough for the IAS ....

    And everyone else.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Thu May 21 11:02:12 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1cm5bi6l8k005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 20/05/2026 23:22, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq0e1klr2cbt003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Maybe it's just me, but I find a discussion about levels
    of education taking place on RADW [of all places] quite
    humorous....

    So how does Ireland work?

    Obviously to higher level than Australia and Canada,
    especially Canada.

    I'm just amazed that a person can be a CEO of a tech company in
    2026 yet they can't read, understand what they read or compose a
    sentence properly... I don't mean properly to equate with 'Full
    Professor of English' level... but just a basic comprehension
    level!

    After 30 odd years?
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 07:32:59 2026
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    Verily, in article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen
    in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush
    it all together.

    But 'WE' will have collided with The Andromeda Galaxy before than!! Only about 2.5 Billion years?

    Quote
    The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies have about a 50% chance of
    colliding with each other in the next 10 billion years,[15] merging to potentially form a giant elliptical galaxy[16] or a large lenticular galaxy.[17]
    End Quote.

    Oh! No, We can relax .... 10 Billion years!!

    Of course, that also means there's a 50% chance we *won't* merge with Andromeda.


    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!

    Oh, all this stuff is gradually piling together. Earth ends up in a
    black hole one way or another.

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 07:37:31 2026
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    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up
    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 21:41:22 2026
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    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:11 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Does he know Newton?

    Well, I can't comment for Aggy but I know I've NEVER
    met Newton, Asswipe!!

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 07:51:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk about
    here?
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:05:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk about
    here?

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 12:13:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4478b772e68d531d989edc@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen
    in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush
    it all together.

    But 'WE' will have collided with The Andromeda Galaxy before than!! Only
    about 2.5 Billion years?

    Quote
    The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies have about a 50% chance of
    colliding with each other in the next 10 billion years,[15] merging to
    potentially form a giant elliptical galaxy[16] or a large lenticular
    galaxy.[17]
    End Quote.

    Oh! No, We can relax .... 10 Billion years!!

    Of course, that also means there's a 50% chance we *won't* merge with >Andromeda.


    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!

    Oh, all this stuff is gradually piling together. Earth ends up in a
    black hole one way or another.

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.


    Now where is the centre of the Universe?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 12:14:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4478b8879d62b979989edd@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind >> >> the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy
    of child sexual molestation coverup)??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire >universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up
    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed >civilizations.


    Spot on!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 12:15:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 10:11 am, The Doctor wrote:

    Does he know Newton?

    Well, I can't comment for Aggy but I know I've NEVER
    met Newton, Asswipe!!

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    Carfeul which trigger you pull.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 12:15:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4478bbd49b5feb7c989ede@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk about
    here?


    Exactly!

    Now to get Siobhan and Miccelle back.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 12:15:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk about
    here?

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 08:28:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10umsu2$cg7$3@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <MPG.4478b772e68d531d989edc@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen
    in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush
    it all together.

    But 'WE' will have collided with The Andromeda Galaxy before than!! Only >> about 2.5 Billion years?

    Quote
    The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies have about a 50% chance of
    colliding with each other in the next 10 billion years,[15] merging to
    potentially form a giant elliptical galaxy[16] or a large lenticular
    galaxy.[17]
    End Quote.

    Oh! No, We can relax .... 10 Billion years!!

    Of course, that also means there's a 50% chance we *won't* merge with >Andromeda.


    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!

    Oh, all this stuff is gradually piling together. Earth ends up in a
    black hole one way or another.

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.


    Now where is the centre of the Universe?

    The cool part is that there is none. There's no center that everything's moving away from. Everything's moving away from everything else, while
    also being pulled toward everything else by gravity.

    This is what leads to the Big Bang Theory, which says that the Big Bang
    didn't just shoot out matter but actually created space-time.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:38:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind >>>> the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a
    Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up
    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until I
    saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were losing
    faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the name
    of the Bigger Boss. Aggy!!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:50:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen
    in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush
    it all together.

    But 'WE' will have collided with The Andromeda Galaxy before than!! Only
    about 2.5 Billion years?

    Quote
    The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies have about a 50% chance of
    colliding with each other in the next 10 billion years,[15] merging to
    potentially form a giant elliptical galaxy[16] or a large lenticular
    galaxy.[17]
    End Quote.

    Oh! No, We can relax .... 10 Billion years!!

    Of course, that also means there's a 50% chance we *won't* merge with Andromeda.

    Hmm!! Now that you point that out, Melissa ...... I thought the
    'collusion' of the two Galaxy's was 100% .... but the chances of
    anything with-in either Galaxy hitting something from the other Galaxy
    was sooooo slim as there is just sooooo much empty space out there.

    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!

    Oh, all this stuff is gradually piling together. Earth ends up in a
    black hole one way or another.

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho on Thu May 21 13:05:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 7:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:

    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    WHAT about "Newtonian Physics", Asswipe??

    Is this a rhetorical question or can we all join in?

    Oh, please do join in, Blueshirt .... but please don't
    rush in... give The asswipe a bit of a chance to answer
    first.

    I won't be able to see his answer anyway.

    Well, unless somebody replies to it.

    Why are YOU, Asswipe, referring to him/it??

    Take your pick...

    1) They are both of Indian descent

    2) Dave gets confused and doesn't know what he means.

    3) Dave is cleverer than everyone and we are all imbeciles.

    One of the above answers is correct.

    Probably.

    I'm going for 2) .... with a little of 1).

    I think 2) would be the sensible choice.

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 13:05:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did
    daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would
    we talk about here?

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!!

    Featuring a cameo by Rajesh Newton... from the parallel
    universe.

    Some mavity for the Nativity!

    :)
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 13:07:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10umsu2$cg7$3@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    Now where is the centre of the Universe?

    The cool part is that there is none. There's no center that
    everything's moving away from. Everything's moving away from
    everything else, while also being pulled toward everything
    else by gravity.

    This is what leads to the Big Bang Theory, which says that the
    Big Bang didn't just shoot out matter but actually created
    space-time.

    Now you've gone and done it! Dave ain't gonna be having any of
    that "Big Bang" nonsense. That's blasphemy!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 23:08:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 8:55 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq1cf0bhw9b8004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    And how come YOU, Asswipe, aren't relying on Aggy's support,
    Asswipe?? Or have you now realised that Aggy doesn't always
    agree with YOU, Asswipe??

    Does anyone? I mean, really? !

    AGA used to be Dave's online 'friend' but it seems there's a
    limit to how much inane gobbledygook a person can put up with...

    Still is.

    Yes, Asswipe, "there's a limit to how much inane gobbledygook a person
    can put up with...", even Aggy!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 23:12:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:

    <Snip>

    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!

    Oh, all this stuff is gradually piling together. Earth ends up in a
    black hole one way or another.

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

    ... leading to a Second Big Bang!! Or has it already happened before??
    ... and Before?? .... and Before!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 13:14:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 8:55 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq1cf0bhw9b8004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    AGA used to be Dave's online 'friend' but it seems
    there's a limit to how much inane gobbledygook a
    person can put up with...

    Still is.

    Yes, Asswipe, "there's a limit to how much inane gobbledygook
    a person can put up with...", even Aggy!!

    Dave is so dense he probably doesn't even realise that Agamemnon
    has been taking him to task and mocking his literacy 'skills'...
    it goes over his head and he just carries on.



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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 23:16:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk about
    here?

    Hmm! Good point!! ;-)
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 23:18:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk
    about here?

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a newsgroup about 'Doctor
    Who'??
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 09:26:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10un0cm$omrb$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

    ... leading to a Second Big Bang!! Or has it already happened before??
    ... and Before?? .... and Before!!

    There are those who say the Big Bang and Big Crunch are an endless
    cycle. There are others who say otherwise. :-)
    --
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 09:29:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a newsgroup about 'Doctor Who'??

    It may not even get made. It's not looking good for the show's future.
    Recent seasons also weren't looking good for the show's future, so I'm
    not even sure how to hope.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 16:29:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means >>>>>>> sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and >>>>>> Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different >>>>> names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct!  The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek because
    biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology ....
    the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life
    based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 17:50:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a
    newsgroup about 'Doctor Who'??

    It may not even get made.

    It'll get made alright, they say the money is there and the
    script is done... it's whether there will be any new "Doctor
    Who" episodes after that.

    It's not looking good for the show's future.

    I'm not expecting anything in 2027 anyway... after that, who
    knows?

    Recent seasons also weren't looking good for the show's
    future,

    "Doctor Who" will always live on even if it's not on the TV...
    the EU was thriving during the wilderness years, and Big Finish
    are not going away anytime soon.

    so I'm not even sure how to hope.

    RADW is your beacon of hope!

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 20:38:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were
    behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a >>>>> Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire
    universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until I
    saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were losing
    faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the name
    of the Bigger Boss.   Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold Schwarzenegger’s
    Hercules in New York?
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 20:45:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk about
    here?

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in 2017.
    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 20:47:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 14:29, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a newsgroup about 'Doctor
    Who'??

    It may not even get made. It's not looking good for the show's future.

    Let's hope this piece of fan fiction does not.

    Recent seasons also weren't looking good for the show's future, so I'm
    not even sure how to hope.


    Nothing was looking good for the show's future from the moment they
    turned the Master into a woman and the ratings collapsed in half as a
    direct consequence.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 20:52:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 17:50, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a
    newsgroup about 'Doctor Who'??

    It may not even get made.

    It'll get made alright, they say the money is there and the
    script is done... it's whether there will be any new "Doctor
    Who" episodes after that.

    Who's going to be playing the Doctor? Why would anyone agree to playing
    the role when there's no money for a new series and even if there was no
    one would watch it after the franchise was totally demolished by turning
    the Doctor into a homosexual and making the entire show about this
    sexuality and effeminacy.


    It's not looking good for the show's future.

    I'm not expecting anything in 2027 anyway... after that, who
    knows?


    The franchise is dead. It will stay completely dead until the BBC
    recognise that turning the Doctor into a homosexual and a mass murdering genocidal monster from another dimension and insulting every fan and
    viewer who called it out was a big mistake and apologise. The only way
    back passes through Dallas when someone wakes up from this hideous
    nightmare.

    Recent seasons also weren't looking good for the show's
    future,

    "Doctor Who" will always live on even if it's not on the TV...
    the EU was thriving during the wilderness years, and Big Finish
    are not going away anytime soon.

    so I'm not even sure how to hope.

    RADW is your beacon of hope!

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:41:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4478c4865ed3bc21989ee0@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umsu2$cg7$3@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <MPG.4478b772e68d531d989edc@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen
    in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush
    it all together.

    But 'WE' will have collided with The Andromeda Galaxy before than!! Only >> >> about 2.5 Billion years?

    Quote
    The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies have about a 50% chance of
    colliding with each other in the next 10 billion years,[15] merging to >> >> potentially form a giant elliptical galaxy[16] or a large lenticular
    galaxy.[17]
    End Quote.

    Oh! No, We can relax .... 10 Billion years!!

    Of course, that also means there's a 50% chance we *won't* merge with
    Andromeda.


    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!

    Oh, all this stuff is gradually piling together. Earth ends up in a
    black hole one way or another.

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.


    Now where is the centre of the Universe?

    The cool part is that there is none. There's no center that everything's >moving away from. Everything's moving away from everything else, while
    also being pulled toward everything else by gravity.

    This is what leads to the Big Bang Theory, which says that the Big Bang >didn't just shoot out matter but actually created space-time.


    A centre must exist to disperse from.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:43:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10umuce$o5bf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were behind >>>>> the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a >>>>> Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire
    universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up
    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until I
    saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were losing
    faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the name
    of the Bigger Boss. Aggy!!

    YES! He would know better.

    --
    Daniel70
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:44:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10umv3g$ocii$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ukc45$1911$5@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <10uk97u$3vc75$4@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Where the hell is that going to come from? All the free hydrogen
    in the solar system was cleared by the Sun and the gas giants.

    Cleared? The most abundant element in the universe?

    That doesn't mean clouds of it are floating around our own system.

    Eventually the Great Attractor will pull the Milky Way in and smush
    it all together.

    But 'WE' will have collided with The Andromeda Galaxy before than!! Only >>> about 2.5 Billion years?

    Quote
    The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies have about a 50% chance of
    colliding with each other in the next 10 billion years,[15] merging to
    potentially form a giant elliptical galaxy[16] or a large lenticular
    galaxy.[17]
    End Quote.

    Oh! No, We can relax .... 10 Billion years!!

    Of course, that also means there's a 50% chance we *won't* merge with
    Andromeda.

    Hmm!! Now that you point that out, Melissa ...... I thought the
    'collusion' of the two Galaxy's was 100% .... but the chances of
    anything with-in either Galaxy hitting something from the other Galaxy
    was sooooo slim as there is just sooooo much empty space out there.


    Galactic energy for you.

    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!

    Oh, all this stuff is gradually piling together. Earth ends up in a
    black hole one way or another.

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:44:20 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1i6y5ejbs001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did
    daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would
    we talk about here?

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!!

    Featuring a cameo by Rajesh Newton... from the parallel
    universe.

    Some mavity for the Nativity!

    :)

    LOL!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:44:38 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1ib05kcmi002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10umsu2$cg7$3@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    Now where is the centre of the Universe?

    The cool part is that there is none. There's no center that
    everything's moving away from. Everything's moving away from
    everything else, while also being pulled toward everything
    else by gravity.

    This is what leads to the Big Bang Theory, which says that the
    Big Bang didn't just shoot out matter but actually created
    space-time.

    Now you've gone and done it! Dave ain't gonna be having any of
    that "Big Bang" nonsense. That's blasphemy!

    You got the idea!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:45:28 2026
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    In article <10un04g$omrb$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 8:55 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq1cf0bhw9b8004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    And how come YOU, Asswipe, aren't relying on Aggy's support,
    Asswipe?? Or have you now realised that Aggy doesn't always
    agree with YOU, Asswipe??

    Does anyone? I mean, really? !

    AGA used to be Dave's online 'friend' but it seems there's a
    limit to how much inane gobbledygook a person can put up with...

    Still is.

    Yes, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual >molestation coverup), "there's a limit to how much inane gobbledygook a person
    can put up with...", even Aggy!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:45:45 2026
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    In article <10un0cm$omrb$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umcrl$j06a$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 11:47 pm, The True Melissa wrote:

    <Snip>

    Perhaps some of the gas giants will be stars for a few millennia at
    that time, before joining the black hole.

    What 'Black Hole'?? The one at the middle of our Galaxy?? Not gunna
    happen as "We'll" collide with The Andromeda Galaxy first!!

    Oh, all this stuff is gradually piling together. Earth ends up in a
    black hole one way or another.

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

    ... leading to a Second Big Bang!! Or has it already happened before??
    ... and Before?? .... and Before!!

    Terminus comes to mind.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:46:16 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1ifv5rfys003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 8:55 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0pq1cf0bhw9b8004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    AGA used to be Dave's online 'friend' but it seems
    there's a limit to how much inane gobbledygook a
    person can put up with...

    Still is.

    Yes, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child
    sexual molestation, "there's a limit to how much inane gobbledygook
    a person can put up with...", even Aggy!!

    Dave is so dense he probably doesn't even realise that Agamemnon
    has been taking him to task and mocking his literacy 'skills'...
    it goes over his head and he just carries on.




    Welcome to drwho .
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:46:32 2026
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    In article <10un0j9$omrb$3@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk about
    here?

    Hmm! Good point!! ;-)

    You finally got the idea.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:46:51 2026
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    In article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk
    about here?

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a newsgroup about 'Doctor >Who'??

    Flame Chibnall!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:47:08 2026
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    In article <MPG.4478d1f71a73bfee989ee2@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10un0cm$omrb$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

    ... leading to a Second Big Bang!! Or has it already happened before??
    ... and Before?? .... and Before!!

    There are those who say the Big Bang and Big Crunch are an endless
    cycle. There are others who say otherwise. :-)


    There is term for that.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:47:33 2026
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    In article <MPG.4478d2b624237305989ee3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a newsgroup about 'Doctor
    Who'??

    It may not even get made. It's not looking good for the show's future. >Recent seasons also weren't looking good for the show's future, so I'm
    not even sure how to hope.


    New hope: Big Wolf out!


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:47:48 2026
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    In article <10un8ck$raem$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means >>>>>>>> sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, and >>>>>>> Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have different >>>>>> names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct!  The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek because
    biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology ....
    the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is considered the >founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life
    based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/


    Thank you.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:49:05 2026
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    In article <xn0pq1o3wdj4ty001@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a
    newsgroup about 'Doctor Who'??

    It may not even get made.

    It'll get made alright, they say the money is there and the
    script is done... it's whether there will be any new "Doctor
    Who" episodes after that.

    It's not looking good for the show's future.

    I'm not expecting anything in 2027 anyway... after that, who
    knows?

    Recent seasons also weren't looking good for the show's
    future,

    "Doctor Who" will always live on even if it's not on the TV...
    the EU was thriving during the wilderness years, and Big Finish
    are not going away anytime soon.

    so I'm not even sure how to hope.

    RADW is your beacon of hope!


    WEEll time for RTD and co to give up DW!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:49:50 2026
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    In article <10unn0k$101on$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were
    behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a >>>>>> Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate
    their joy of child sexual molestation??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire
    universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until I
    saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were losing
    faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the name
    of the Bigger Boss.   Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold Schwarzenegger’s >Hercules in New York?


    Can Dannyboy recall?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:50:07 2026
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    In article <10unnck$104fb$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:51 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umr11$mu3m$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 7:40 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    Don't get Agamemnon started on Isaac Newton!!!

    Aggy's got to get over it .... eventually!!

    If we all got over the things that annoy us, what would we talk about
    here?

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in 2017.
    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.


    RTD and Chibnall out!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:50:28 2026
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    In article <10unngm$104fb$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 14:29, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a newsgroup about 'Doctor >>> Who'??

    It may not even get made. It's not looking good for the show's future.

    Let's hope this piece of fan fiction does not.

    Recent seasons also weren't looking good for the show's future, so I'm
    not even sure how to hope.


    Nothing was looking good for the show's future from the moment they
    turned the Master into a woman and the ratings collapsed in half as a
    direct consequence.


    Arsenal has got more hope that Big Wolf!


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:50:57 2026
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    In article <10unnqa$109vm$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 17:50, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10un0ms$omrb$4@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 21/05/2026 10:15 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10umsel$ndkk$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    That might be a no go!

    Yea, right, who'd ever discuss 'Doctor Who' in a
    newsgroup about 'Doctor Who'??

    It may not even get made.

    It'll get made alright, they say the money is there and the
    script is done... it's whether there will be any new "Doctor
    Who" episodes after that.

    Who's going to be playing the Doctor? Why would anyone agree to playing
    the role when there's no money for a new series and even if there was no
    one would watch it after the franchise was totally demolished by turning
    the Doctor into a homosexual and making the entire show about this
    sexuality and effeminacy.


    Out Bad Wolf!


    It's not looking good for the show's future.

    I'm not expecting anything in 2027 anyway... after that, who
    knows?


    The franchise is dead. It will stay completely dead until the BBC
    recognise that turning the Doctor into a homosexual and a mass murdering >genocidal monster from another dimension and insulting every fan and
    viewer who called it out was a big mistake and apologise. The only way
    back passes through Dallas when someone wakes up from this hideous >nightmare.


    Yes.

    Recent seasons also weren't looking good for the show's
    future,

    "Doctor Who" will always live on even if it's not on the TV...
    the EU was thriving during the wilderness years, and Big Finish
    are not going away anytime soon.

    so I'm not even sure how to hope.

    RADW is your beacon of hope!



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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Thu May 21 22:53:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq1i0359olv000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 7:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:

    I am referring to Newtonian Physics

    WHAT about "Newtonian Physics", Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles
    to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation coverup)??

    Is this a rhetorical question or can we all join in?

    Oh, please do join in, Blueshirt .... but please don't
    rush in... give The asswipe a bit of a chance to answer
    first.

    I won't be able to see his answer anyway.

    Well, unless somebody replies to it.

    Why are YOU, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate
    their joy of child sexual molestation coverup), referring to him/it??

    Take your pick...

    1) They are both of Indian descent

    2) Dave gets confused and doesn't know what he means.

    3) Dave is cleverer than everyone and we are all imbeciles.

    One of the above answers is correct.

    Probably.

    I'm going for 2) .... with a little of 1).

    I think 2) would be the sensible choice.

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 18:54:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10uo1n7$2t5e$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    A centre must exist to disperse from.


    Nope. All bodies are moving away from all bodies. Gravity is another
    force which can override that in some cases.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Thu May 21 22:57:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.4479574af243cfe0989ee6@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uo1n7$2t5e$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    A centre must exist to disperse from.


    Nope. All bodies are moving away from all bodies. Gravity is another
    force which can override that in some cases.


    In 3 to 4 dimensions.

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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 20:12:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 21/05/2026 11:26 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10un0cm$omrb$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump
    up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

    ... leading to a Second Big Bang!! Or has it already happened before??
    ... and Before?? .... and Before!!

    There are those who say the Big Bang and Big Crunch are an endless
    cycle. There are others who say otherwise. :-)

    Yes, that's the other big theory .... who's name I can't re .... hang
    on, .... is that "The Steady State" Theorem??
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 20:23:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 1:29 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means >>>>>>>> sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name,
    and Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct!  The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek
    because biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology ....
    the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview               Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life
    based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/

    YES, Aggy, SURE, Aggy, Aristotle might have FORMALISED THE STUDY OF
    Biology .... but he DIDN'T INVENT IT!!

    Who'd ever Believe AI??
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 10:48:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10upa73$1deo7$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 11:26 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10un0cm$omrb$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump >>>> up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

    ... leading to a Second Big Bang!! Or has it already happened before??
    ... and Before?? .... and Before!!

    There are those who say the Big Bang and Big Crunch are an endless
    cycle. There are others who say otherwise. :-)

    Yes, that's the other big theory .... who's name I can't re .... hang
    on, .... is that "The Steady State" Theorem??

    Yes!!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 10:49:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10upaqr$1dkhf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 1:29 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means >>>>>>>>> sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, >>>>>>>> and Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct!  The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek
    because biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology ....
    the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview               Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is >considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life
    based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/

    YES, Aggy, SURE, Aggy, Aristotle might have FORMALISED THE STUDY OF
    Biology .... but he DIDN'T INVENT IT!!

    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    And you wonder why many mock it.

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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 20:38:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 5:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were
    behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a >>>>>> Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire
    universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until
    I saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were
    losing faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the name
    of the Bigger Boss.   Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Hercules in New York?

    No, it was about 'Perseus', the guy that rode 'Pegasus', the winged
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her head
    to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Can't recognise it amongst the films offered by imdb.com when I entered "Perseus" in the filter field .... but imdb.com DID offer the
    possibility of the film being called "Godzilla v Kong" .... which I
    think was the film I watched AFTER the Perseus film.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 20:41:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 5:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were
    behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a >>>>>> Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire
    universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until
    I saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were
    losing faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the name
    of the Bigger Boss.   Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Hercules in New York?

    No, it was about 'Perseus', the guy that rode 'Pegasus', the winged
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her head
    to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Can't recognise it amongst the films offered by imdb.com when I entered "Perseus" in the filter field .... but imdb.com DID offer the
    possibility of the film being called "Godzilla v Kong" .... which I
    think was the film I watched AFTER the Perseus film.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 20:56:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 8:41 pm, Daniel70 wrote:

    Sorry about the double post ... my internet connection has been playing
    up tonight.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 21:03:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 8:49 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10upaqr$1dkhf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 1:29 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology .... >>>> the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview               Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is
    considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life
    based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/

    YES, Aggy, SURE, Aggy, Aristotle might have FORMALISED THE STUDY OF
    Biology .... but he DIDN'T INVENT IT!!

    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    And you wonder why many mock it.

    No, Asswipe, I DON'T wonder.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 12:17:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10upbo5$1dt9m$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 5:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were >>>>>>> behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of like a >>>>>>> Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire
    universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until
    I saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were
    losing faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the name
    of the Bigger Boss.   Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold Schwarzenegger’s
    Hercules in New York?

    No, it was about 'Perseus', the guy that rode 'Pegasus', the winged
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her head
    to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Can't recognise it amongst the films offered by imdb.com when I entered >"Perseus" in the filter field .... but imdb.com DID offer the
    possibility of the film being called "Godzilla v Kong" .... which I
    think was the film I watched AFTER the Perseus film.

    Your memory shows!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 12:17:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10upcpg$1e5p7$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 8:41 pm, Daniel70 wrote:

    Sorry about the double post ... my internet connection has been playing
    up tonight.
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    As ususal!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 12:18:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10upd58$1e5p7$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 8:49 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10upaqr$1dkhf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 1:29 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:

    <Snip>

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology .... >>>>> the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview               >Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is
    considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life >>>> based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/

    YES, Aggy, SURE, Aggy, Aristotle might have FORMALISED THE STUDY OF
    Biology .... but he DIDN'T INVENT IT!!

    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    And you wonder why many mock it.

    No, Asswipe(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child
    sexual molestation coverup), I DON'T wonder.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 13:06:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 14:29, The True Melissa wrote:

    [Doctor Who Christmas Special]

    It may not even get made. It's not looking good for
    the show's future.

    Let's hope this piece of fan fiction does not.

    I would rather we had poor Doctor Who on the TV than no
    Doctor Who on the TV... if Doctor Who becomes a show that
    I dislike, I can choose not to watch it. I have plenty of
    alternative ways to pass my time.

    Wishing to see planned episodes of Doctor Who cancelled
    because it doesn't suit our personal tastes is selfish
    entitlement. Why deprive others that might like it? We are
    not TV gods that decide who can watch/like stuff on the
    TV, and what they can't watch/like - just because we don't
    like it!

    Don't like something - don't watch it!
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 13:06:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who.
    Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 13:06:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 17:50, Blueshirt wrote:

    It'll get made alright, they say the money is there
    and the script is done... it's whether there will be
    any new "Doctor Who" episodes after that.

    Who's going to be playing the Doctor?

    You've read the same rumours as me... David Tennant.

    Or maybe it really will be Billie Piper?!

    Why would anyone agree to playing the role when there's no
    money for a new series

    This delusional YouTube fan theory that nobody would want to
    play The Doctor is bonkers! It's a big role and I doubt there's
    many actors that would turn the job down if offered it.

    and even if there was no one would watch it after the franchise
    was totally demolished by turning the Doctor into a homosexual
    and making the entire show about this sexuality and effeminacy.

    There will be plenty of trendy actors who wouldn't be thinking
    like you about those sort of things. It's 2026 not 1956, nobody
    is in the closet anymore. Anything goes. You might have
    issues/hangs ups over that sort of thing, but have you seen
    modern TV drama? Finding an actor/actress to play The Doctor
    will not be as hard as you seem to think it is.

    Having the money and international distribution deal for an
    ongoing series will be more of a factor than the actual casting.
    That's why what happens after the Christmas special is the
    bigger question.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 09:55:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <xn0pq2wu91kygfx002@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    You've read the same rumours as me... David Tennant.

    Or maybe it really will be Billie Piper?!

    Yeah, probably Tennant. They're not going to go for someone new or for
    Piper. They'll bring back Tennant and hope nostalgia brings in viewers.


    Why would anyone agree to playing the role when there's no
    money for a new series

    This delusional YouTube fan theory that nobody would want to
    play The Doctor is bonkers!

    Yeah, plenty of people would take that role. It's not the hottest role
    on TV any more, but it's not cursed.

    Has anyone seen the Twenty Twenty Six show David Tennant's currently narrating? It has only six stars out of ten, so I gather it's not great.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 14:58:41 2026
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    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq2wu91kygfx002@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    You've read the same rumours as me... David Tennant.

    Or maybe it really will be Billie Piper?!

    Yeah, probably Tennant. They're not going to go for
    someone new or for Piper. They'll bring back Tennant and
    hope nostalgia brings in viewers.

    If there is going to be a 'new' Doctor cast then I think it
    will be at the end of the Christmas special. I would bet money
    the main focus of the Christmas episode will be the
    Tennant/Piper combination... RTD returning to his Greatest Hits
    once again.

    Why would anyone agree to playing the role when there's no
    money for a new series

    This delusional YouTube fan theory that nobody would want to
    play The Doctor is bonkers!

    Yeah, plenty of people would take that role. It's not the
    hottest role on TV any more, but it's not cursed.

    There's plenty of actors who would see it as an opportunity.

    Has anyone seen the Twenty Twenty Six show David Tennant's
    currently narrating? It has only six stars out of ten, so I
    gather it's not great.

    Nah, haven't seen it. I might check it out before the World Cup.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 16:18:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 14:29, The True Melissa wrote:

    [Doctor Who Christmas Special]

    It may not even get made. It's not looking good for
    the show's future.

    Let's hope this piece of fan fiction does not.

    I would rather we had poor Doctor Who on the TV than no
    Doctor Who on the TV... if Doctor Who becomes a show that
    I dislike, I can choose not to watch it. I have plenty of
    alternative ways to pass my time.


    There's been no Doctor Who on TV since 2017.

    Wishing to see planned episodes of Doctor Who cancelled
    because it doesn't suit our personal tastes is selfish
    entitlement. Why deprive others that might like it? We are

    Fucking up the entire franchise with your disgusting and degenerate fan fiction aimed at attacking and insulting the audience is selfish
    entitlement.

    not TV gods that decide who can watch/like stuff on the
    TV, and what they can't watch/like - just because we don't
    like it!


    Tell that to the perverts Chris Chibnall and Russell T Davies.

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced Doctor Who
    have fallen through the floor to under 1.5 million.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 16:19:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 11:12, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 11:26 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10un0cm$omrb$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump >>>> up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

    ... leading to a Second Big Bang!! Or has it already happened before??
    ... and Before?? .... and Before!!

    There are those who say the Big Bang and Big Crunch are an endless
    cycle. There are others who say otherwise. :-)

    Yes, that's the other big theory .... who's name I can't re .... hang
    on, .... is that "The Steady State" Theorem??

    Hawking trashed that one when he was an undergrad.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 16:32:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who.
    Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so that others don't have to. Note that I have not watched the totally
    degenerate Star Fleet Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 16:35:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 11:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10upaqr$1dkhf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 1:29 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>>> The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means >>>>>>>>>> sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, >>>>>>>>> and Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while >>>>>>> writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct!  The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek
    because biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology .... >>>> the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview               Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is
    considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life
    based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/

    YES, Aggy, SURE, Aggy, Aristotle might have FORMALISED THE STUDY OF
    Biology .... but he DIDN'T INVENT IT!!

    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    And you wonder why many mock it.


    You are an AI chatbot. Why are you mocking yourself?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 16:38:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 11:23, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 1:29 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means >>>>>>>>> sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, >>>>>>>> and Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while
    writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct!  The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek
    because biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology ....
    the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview               Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life
    based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/

    YES, Aggy, SURE, Aggy, Aristotle might have FORMALISED THE STUDY OF
    Biology .... but he DIDN'T INVENT IT!!

    Stanford says he did.


    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    Who'd ever believe Stanford university.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 16:42:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 11:41, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 5:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were >>>>>>> behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of
    like a
    Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire
    universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for
    Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until
    I saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were
    losing faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the
    name of the Bigger Boss.   Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold Schwarzenegger’s
    Hercules in New York?

    No, it was about 'Perseus', the guy that rode 'Pegasus', the winged
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her head
    to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.


    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as head
    of the gods by some bigger boss?

    Can't recognise it amongst the films offered by imdb.com when I entered "Perseus" in the filter field .... but imdb.com DID offer the
    possibility of the film being called "Godzilla v Kong" .... which I
    think was the film I watched AFTER the Perseus film.

    You've gone and mixed up your movies like you did before.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 19:03:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.

    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Why don't you watch "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" so that
    others don't have to?
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Fri May 22 19:04:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:

    I would rather we had poor Doctor Who on the TV than no
    Doctor Who on the TV... if Doctor Who becomes a show that
    I dislike, I can choose not to watch it. I have plenty of
    alternative ways to pass my time.

    There's been no Doctor Who on TV since 2017.

    Stay tuned... Christmas is coming.

    Wishing to see planned episodes of Doctor Who cancelled
    because it doesn't suit our personal tastes is selfish
    entitlement. Why deprive others that might like it? We are

    Fucking up the entire franchise with your disgusting and
    degenerate fan fiction aimed at attacking and insulting the
    audience is selfish entitlement.

    I'd like to think that the next Doctor Who showrunner will get
    the show back to basics and concentrate on telling good stories.

    not TV gods that decide who can watch/like stuff on the
    TV, and what they can't watch/like - just because we don't
    like it!

    Tell that to the perverts Chris Chibnall and Russell T Davies.

    Not perverts, more like, rich middle class old men that think
    they are being trendy, right-on, and hip with the youngsters by
    ticking the correct left-wing inclusivity/diversity boxes.

    But the younger generation just laugh at those pathetic old men
    and go and watch something else instead... which is why the
    Doctor Who ratings have plummeted since 2017. There's plenty of
    better quality TV shows to watch on the various channels and
    streaming services.

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced
    Doctor Who have fallen through the floor to under 1.5 million.

    More people need to watch it so that others don't have to then.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:50:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq2wgm1kjy07000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 14:29, The True Melissa wrote:

    [Doctor Who Christmas Special]

    It may not even get made. It's not looking good for
    the show's future.

    Let's hope this piece of fan fiction does not.

    I would rather we had poor Doctor Who on the TV than no
    Doctor Who on the TV... if Doctor Who becomes a show that
    I dislike, I can choose not to watch it. I have plenty of
    alternative ways to pass my time.

    Wishing to see planned episodes of Doctor Who cancelled
    because it doesn't suit our personal tastes is selfish
    entitlement. Why deprive others that might like it? We are
    not TV gods that decide who can watch/like stuff on the
    TV, and what they can't watch/like - just because we don't
    like it!

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    Give the rumoured anarchy ...
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:51:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq2whl1klc04001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who.
    Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    Same old! Same old!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:52:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq2wu91kygfx002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 17:50, Blueshirt wrote:

    It'll get made alright, they say the money is there
    and the script is done... it's whether there will be
    any new "Doctor Who" episodes after that.

    Who's going to be playing the Doctor?

    You've read the same rumours as me... David Tennant.


    Yeah! Yeah!

    Or maybe it really will be Billie Piper?!

    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Why would anyone agree to playing the role when there's no
    money for a new series

    This delusional YouTube fan theory that nobody would want to
    play The Doctor is bonkers! It's a big role and I doubt there's
    many actors that would turn the job down if offered it.

    and even if there was no one would watch it after the franchise
    was totally demolished by turning the Doctor into a homosexual
    and making the entire show about this sexuality and effeminacy.

    There will be plenty of trendy actors who wouldn't be thinking
    like you about those sort of things. It's 2026 not 1956, nobody
    is in the closet anymore. Anything goes. You might have
    issues/hangs ups over that sort of thing, but have you seen
    modern TV drama? Finding an actor/actress to play The Doctor
    will not be as hard as you seem to think it is.

    Having the money and international distribution deal for an
    ongoing series will be more of a factor than the actual casting.
    That's why what happens after the Christmas special is the
    bigger question.

    Right now RTD is not popular with the DW community.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:52:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.447a2a553285462989eeb@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0pq2wu91kygfx002@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    You've read the same rumours as me... David Tennant.

    Or maybe it really will be Billie Piper?!

    Yeah, probably Tennant. They're not going to go for someone new or for >Piper. They'll bring back Tennant and hope nostalgia brings in viewers.


    Tennant as the REAL 13th Doctor!


    Why would anyone agree to playing the role when there's no
    money for a new series

    This delusional YouTube fan theory that nobody would want to
    play The Doctor is bonkers!

    Yeah, plenty of people would take that role. It's not the hottest role
    on TV any more, but it's not cursed.

    Has anyone seen the Twenty Twenty Six show David Tennant's currently >narrating? It has only six stars out of ten, so I gather it's not great.


    IT is humour!



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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:53:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq2zp71oybh8004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq2wu91kygfx002@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    You've read the same rumours as me... David Tennant.

    Or maybe it really will be Billie Piper?!

    Yeah, probably Tennant. They're not going to go for
    someone new or for Piper. They'll bring back Tennant and
    hope nostalgia brings in viewers.

    If there is going to be a 'new' Doctor cast then I think it
    will be at the end of the Christmas special. I would bet money
    the main focus of the Christmas episode will be the
    Tennant/Piper combination... RTD returning to his Greatest Hits
    once again.

    Why would anyone agree to playing the role when there's no
    money for a new series

    This delusional YouTube fan theory that nobody would want to
    play The Doctor is bonkers!

    Yeah, plenty of people would take that role. It's not the
    hottest role on TV any more, but it's not cursed.

    There's plenty of actors who would see it as an opportunity.

    Has anyone seen the Twenty Twenty Six show David Tennant's
    currently narrating? It has only six stars out of ten, so I
    gather it's not great.

    Nah, haven't seen it. I might check it out before the World Cup.


    Check for IPlayer.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:53:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ups55$1j3r9$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 14:29, The True Melissa wrote:

    [Doctor Who Christmas Special]

    It may not even get made. It's not looking good for
    the show's future.

    Let's hope this piece of fan fiction does not.

    I would rather we had poor Doctor Who on the TV than no
    Doctor Who on the TV... if Doctor Who becomes a show that
    I dislike, I can choose not to watch it. I have plenty of
    alternative ways to pass my time.


    There's been no Doctor Who on TV since 2017.

    Wishing to see planned episodes of Doctor Who cancelled
    because it doesn't suit our personal tastes is selfish
    entitlement. Why deprive others that might like it? We are

    F*king up the entire franchise with your disgusting and degenerate fan >fiction aimed at attacking and insulting the audience is selfish >entitlement.


    Spot on!

    not TV gods that decide who can watch/like stuff on the
    TV, and what they can't watch/like - just because we don't
    like it!


    Tell that to the perverts Chris Chibnall and Russell T Davies.

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced Doctor Who
    have fallen through the floor to under 1.5 million.


    Exaclty!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:54:03 2026
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    In article <10ups6a$1j3r9$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:12, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 11:26 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10un0cm$omrb$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 21/05/2026 9:32 pm, The True Melissa wrote:

    Stellar motions are complex. Everything's shooting apart, but being
    pulled together into clumps as it goes, and eventually it'll all clump >>>>> up again. That's current thinking, anyway.

    ... leading to a Second Big Bang!! Or has it already happened before?? >>>> ... and Before?? .... and Before!!

    There are those who say the Big Bang and Big Crunch are an endless
    cycle. There are others who say otherwise. :-)

    Yes, that's the other big theory .... who's name I can't re .... hang
    on, .... is that "The Steady State" Theorem??

    Hawking trashed that one when he was an undergrad.


    Got you!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:54:23 2026
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    In article <10upsuo$1jcui$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who.
    Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so that >others don't have to. Note that I have not watched the totally
    degenerate Star Fleet Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.


    Bad Wold out!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:54:49 2026
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    In article <10upt4j$1jcui$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10upaqr$1dkhf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 1:29 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>>>> The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means >>>>>>>>>>> sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, >>>>>>>>>> and Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while >>>>>>>> writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct!  The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek
    because biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology .... >>>>> the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview               Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is
    considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life >>>> based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/

    YES, Aggy, SURE, Aggy, Aristotle might have FORMALISED THE STUDY OF
    Biology .... but he DIDN'T INVENT IT!!

    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    And you wonder why many mock it.


    You are an AI chatbot. Why are you mocking yourself?


    I will let you guess.

    BTW , post your reviews in the FB groups.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:55:15 2026
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    In article <10upt9a$1jcui$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:23, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 1:29 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 09:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/05/2026 2:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2026 15:05, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447607682a6deef7989ec5@news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>>> The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ugvhr$32813$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 18/05/2026 22:51, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ug16p$2qnpl$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    No they didn't. The Romans called the sun Sol because sol means >>>>>>>>>> sun in Latin. Therefore solar system means sun
    system and applies to any sun, ie. a star orbited by
    planets.

    Many use Sol for our star's name, Terra for our planet's name, >>>>>>>>> and Luna for our moon's name.

    You would if you're Italian. In other languages they have
    different names.

    Haven't you seen SF writers refer to Sol and Terra and Luna while >>>>>>> writing in English? I have, and it's pretty common.

    It's from Latin, not modern Italian.

    Correct!  The basis of Scientific Genus.

    Genus is from Greek not Latin. Most biological terms are Greek
    because biology was invented by Aristotle.

    Splitting hairs .... but I don't think the Greeks invented biology .... >>>> the definitions, sure, but not the actual Biology!

    (The Asswipe might have you believe GOD did that!! ;-P )

    "AI Overview               Aristotle (384–322 BCE) is >considered the
    founder of biology, establishing a systematic, empirical study of life
    based on observation, dissection, and classification. His zoological
    works, constituting roughly 25% of his surviving writings, focused on
    animal anatomy, reproduction, and function, driven by a teleological
    view that living structures serve specific purposes."

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-biology/

    YES, Aggy, SURE, Aggy, Aristotle might have FORMALISED THE STUDY OF
    Biology .... but he DIDN'T INVENT IT!!

    Stanford says he did.


    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    Who'd ever believe Stanford university.


    Who came out of Stanford?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 00:59:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uptgb$1jcui$5@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:41, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 5:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when you were >>>>>>>> behind
    the chariot .... Or was it on the front of the chariot sort of >>>>>>>> like a
    Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of the entire >>>>> universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and eventually ended up >>>
    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward trajectory for >>>>> Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when the tribes formed
    civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' .... until >>>> I saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we' humans were
    losing faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide from the Bigger Boss. >>>>
    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned the
    name of the Bigger Boss.   Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold Schwarzenegger’s
    Hercules in New York?

    No, it was about 'Perseus', the guy that rode 'Pegasus', the winged
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her head
    to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.


    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as head
    of the gods by some bigger boss?

    Can't recognise it amongst the films offered by imdb.com when I entered
    "Perseus" in the filter field .... but imdb.com DID offer the
    possibility of the film being called "Godzilla v Kong" .... which I
    think was the film I watched AFTER the Perseus film.

    You've gone and mixed up your movies like you did before.


    Dannyboy and his mixed up memory for you!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 01:00:23 2026
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    In article <xn0pq35uu1xacpf000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.

    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    It might not happen.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Why don't you watch "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" so that
    others don't have to?

    JOKE!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 01:01:22 2026
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    In article <xn0pq368x1xpkyu001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:

    I would rather we had poor Doctor Who on the TV than no
    Doctor Who on the TV... if Doctor Who becomes a show that
    I dislike, I can choose not to watch it. I have plenty of
    alternative ways to pass my time.

    There's been no Doctor Who on TV since 2017.

    Stay tuned... Christmas is coming.


    Hopefully RTD is gone quite soon.

    Wishing to see planned episodes of Doctor Who cancelled
    because it doesn't suit our personal tastes is selfish
    entitlement. Why deprive others that might like it? We are

    Fucking up the entire franchise with your disgusting and
    degenerate fan fiction aimed at attacking and insulting the
    audience is selfish entitlement.

    I'd like to think that the next Doctor Who showrunner will get
    the show back to basics and concentrate on telling good stories.

    not TV gods that decide who can watch/like stuff on the
    TV, and what they can't watch/like - just because we don't
    like it!

    Tell that to the perverts Chris Chibnall and Russell T Davies.

    Not perverts, more like, rich middle class old men that think
    they are being trendy, right-on, and hip with the youngsters by
    ticking the correct left-wing inclusivity/diversity boxes.

    But the younger generation just laugh at those pathetic old men
    and go and watch something else instead... which is why the
    Doctor Who ratings have plummeted since 2017. There's plenty of
    better quality TV shows to watch on the various channels and
    streaming services.

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced
    Doctor Who have fallen through the floor to under 1.5 million.

    More people need to watch it so that others don't have to then.


    Whatever!
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 03:15:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.


    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    5 normal people and an AI chatbot.

    Maybe we should ask it some maths questions to answer and if it doesn't
    show any working out then it doesn't get any marks?

    We'll start of easy and then they will get more difficult.

    What are the solutions to x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0 ?

    If i is the square root of -1, what is 1/i ?

    Write 30 as a product of its primes ?

    No working out no marks remember. No one is allowed to offer it any
    help, at least not at the moment.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Why don't you watch "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" so that
    others don't have to?

    It's total degenerate garbage. I am not going to damage my health
    watching it. Star Trek ended in 2005.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 04:55:05 2026
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    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.


    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    5 normal people and an AI chatbot.

    Maybe we should ask it some maths questions to answer and if it doesn't
    show any working out then it doesn't get any marks?

    We'll start of easy and then they will get more difficult.

    What are the solutions to x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0 ?

    (X+3)(X+5)=0

    That X can be -3 or -5


    If i is the square root of -1, what is 1/i ?

    I/(i^2) which is -i

    Write 30 as a product of its primes ?

    2 * 3 * 5


    No working out no marks remember. No one is allowed to offer it any
    help, at least not at the moment.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Why don't you watch "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" so that
    others don't have to?

    It's total degenerate garbage. I am not going to damage my health
    watching it. Star Trek ended in 2005.


    Jar Jar Abrams and Co.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 06:37:24 2026
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    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.


    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    5 normal people and an AI chatbot.

    Maybe we should ask it some maths questions to answer and if it doesn't
    show any working out then it doesn't get any marks?

    We'll start of easy and then they will get more difficult.

    What are the solutions to x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0 ?

    (X+3)(X+5)=0


    meaning either x+3 = 0 or x+5 = 0 for the above to be true

    That X can be -3 or -5


    mark 4/6


    If i is the square root of -1, what is 1/i ?

    I/(i^2) which is -i

    mark 2/2

    Write 30 as a product of its primes ?


    30/2 = 15 which is not divisible by 2 any further
    15/3 = 5 which is prime

    2 * 3 * 5


    mark 1/3

    Now for your next question which concerns Linear Algebra

    Prove that the following 3x3 matrix has an inverse and find the inverse
    and show it is correct. You may use any method for doing this that you
    prefer. (6 marks)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)


    No working out no marks remember. No one is allowed to offer it any
    help, at least not at the moment.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Why don't you watch "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" so that
    others don't have to?

    It's total degenerate garbage. I am not going to damage my health
    watching it. Star Trek ended in 2005.


    Jar Jar Abrams and Co.


    Jar Jar Abrams is Star Wars, I mean Woke Wars. We are talking about Woke
    Trek.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 19:59:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 22/05/2026 11:06 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 17:50, Blueshirt wrote:

    It'll get made alright, they say the money is there
    and the script is done... it's whether there will be
    any new "Doctor Who" episodes after that.

    Who's going to be playing the Doctor?

    You've read the same rumours as me... David Tennant.

    Or maybe it really will be Billie Piper?!

    Why would anyone agree to playing the role when there's no
    money for a new series

    This delusional YouTube fan theory that nobody would want to
    play The Doctor is bonkers! It's a big role and I doubt there's
    many actors that would turn the job down if offered it.

    As 'they' say .... Any job is better than no job .... and, in the Acting
    Game, good jobs might be hard to come by!!
    --
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 20:09:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 5:04 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:

    <Snip>

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced
    Doctor Who have fallen through the floor to under 1.5 million.

    More people need to watch it so that others don't have to then.

    So DON'T put it on any Streaming Service and lock out those who
    don't/will not pay for such services.
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 20:14:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in
    2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on what I
    think of it at the time) but you will still watch it and review it
    here ... so we've that to look forward to at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so
    that others don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Such lack of dedication, Aggy!! ;-P
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 20:19:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 12:15 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.

    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    Maybe, just maybe, this'll be the NEW IMPROVED 'Doctor Who' you've been waiting for, Aggy.
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 20:38:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 10:54 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10upt4j$1jcui$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10upaqr$1dkhf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    And you wonder why many mock it.

    You are an AI chatbot. Why are you mocking yourself?

    I will let you guess.

    BTW , post your reviews in the FB groups.

    Why should Aggy?? Are YOU trying to spread his FAME??
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 20:53:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 1:42 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:41, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 5:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did
    daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when
    you were behind the chariot .... Or was it on the front
    of the chariot sort of like a Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of
    the entire universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and
    eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward
    trajectory for Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when
    the tribes formed civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' ....
    until I saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we'
    humans were losing faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide
    from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned
    the name of the Bigger Boss. Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold
    Schwarzenegger’s Hercules in New York?

    No, it was about 'Perseus', the guy that rode 'Pegasus', the winged
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her
    head to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as
    head of the gods by some bigger boss?

    The Film I'm referring to is "Wrath of the Titans" ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646987/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_89

    O.K., so it might have been Zeus' other son, Ares, who was trying to
    take over .... but I'm sure they mentioned an Over-Boss.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 10:54:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 5:04 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:

    <Snip>

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced
    Doctor Who have fallen through the floor to under 1.5
    million.

    More people need to watch it so that others don't have to
    then.

    So DON'T put it on any Streaming Service and lock out those
    who don't/will not pay for such services.

    Stop free-loading and pay for it then...

    But if you don't, Agamemnon will watch it so you don't have to!

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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 21:37:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 8:54 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 5:04 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:

    <Snip>

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced
    Doctor Who have fallen through the floor to under 1.5
    million.

    More people need to watch it so that others don't have to
    then.

    So DON'T put it on any Streaming Service and lock out those
    who don't/will not pay for such services.

    Stop free-loading and pay for it then...

    But if you don't, Agamemnon will watch it so you don't have to!

    He's such a great guy, doing that for us!! ;-P
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 08:01:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10us0vs$27ii1$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 23/05/2026 1:42 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her
    head to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as
    head of the gods by some bigger boss?

    The Film I'm referring to is "Wrath of the Titans" ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646987/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_89

    O.K., so it might have been Zeus' other son, Ares, who was trying to
    take over .... but I'm sure they mentioned an Over-Boss

    From the title, I'd think the Titans had been unsealed and were coming
    for their revenge on the Olympians. It sounds like the title doesn't
    have much to do with the movie. :-) Saturn would be a good choice for an Overboss, though. If he ever got out, he might still be able to wipe the
    floor with Zeus.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:41:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.


    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    5 normal people and an AI chatbot.

    Maybe we should ask it some maths questions to answer and if it doesn't
    show any working out then it doesn't get any marks?

    We'll start of easy and then they will get more difficult.

    What are the solutions to x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0 ?

    (X+3)(X+5)=0


    meaning either x+3 = 0 or x+5 = 0 for the above to be true

    That X can be -3 or -5


    mark 4/6


    If i is the square root of -1, what is 1/i ?

    I/(i^2) which is -i

    mark 2/2

    Write 30 as a product of its primes ?


    30/2 = 15 which is not divisible by 2 any further
    15/3 = 5 which is prime

    2 * 3 * 5


    mark 1/3

    Now for your next question which concerns Linear Algebra

    Prove that the following 3x3 matrix has an inverse and find the inverse
    and show it is correct. You may use any method for doing this that you >prefer. (6 marks)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    So

    1 0 -1 a b c
    0 1 0 d e f =1
    1 0 1 g h j


    Therefore

    a - g = 1
    b -h =1
    c - j = 1

    d =1 , e = 1, f =1

    a+g =1
    b + h =1
    c + j =1


    There your inverse is

    1 1 1
    1 1 1
    0 0 0








    No working out no marks remember. No one is allowed to offer it any
    help, at least not at the moment.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Why don't you watch "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" so that
    others don't have to?

    It's total degenerate garbage. I am not going to damage my health
    watching it. Star Trek ended in 2005.


    Jar Jar Abrams and Co.


    Jar Jar Abrams is Star Wars, I mean Woke Wars. We are talking about Woke >Trek.

    --
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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:43:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10urtpm$26eqq$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:06 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 17:50, Blueshirt wrote:

    It'll get made alright, they say the money is there
    and the script is done... it's whether there will be
    any new "Doctor Who" episodes after that.

    Who's going to be playing the Doctor?

    You've read the same rumours as me... David Tennant.

    Or maybe it really will be Billie Piper?!

    Why would anyone agree to playing the role when there's no
    money for a new series

    This delusional YouTube fan theory that nobody would want to
    play The Doctor is bonkers! It's a big role and I doubt there's
    many actors that would turn the job down if offered it.

    As 'they' say .... Any job is better than no job .... and, in the Acting >Game, good jobs might be hard to come by!!

    Or Good Showrunners!

    McTighe and RTD are good expamles of showruiners!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:43:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uruc4$26mso$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 5:04 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:

    <Snip>

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced
    Doctor Who have fallen through the floor to under 1.5 million.

    More people need to watch it so that others don't have to then.

    So DON'T put it on any Streaming Service and lock out those who
    don't/will not pay for such services.

    Send that to the BBC!

    --
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    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:43:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10urun0$26qo7$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in
    2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on what I
    think of it at the time) but you will still watch it and review it
    here ... so we've that to look forward to at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so
    that others don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??


    Yes.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Such lack of dedication, Aggy!! ;-P
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:44:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10urv0d$26to1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 12:15 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.

    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    Maybe, just maybe, this'll be the NEW IMPROVED 'Doctor Who' you've been >waiting for, Aggy.

    That means Bad Wolf has been sacked!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:44:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10us038$2790b$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 10:54 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10upt4j$1jcui$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:49, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10upaqr$1dkhf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Who'd ever Believe AI??

    And you wonder why many mock it.

    You are an AI chatbot. Why are you mocking yourself?

    I will let you guess.

    BTW , post your reviews in the FB groups.

    Why should Aggy?? Are YOU trying to spread his FAME??

    Yes!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:47:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10us0vs$27ii1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:42 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:41, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 5:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did
    daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when
    you were behind the chariot .... Or was it on the front
    of the chariot sort of like a Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of
    the entire universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and
    eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward
    trajectory for Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when
    the tribes formed civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' ....
    until I saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we'
    humans were losing faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide
    from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned
    the name of the Bigger Boss. Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold
    Schwarzenegger’s Hercules in New York?

    No, it was about 'Perseus', the guy that rode 'Pegasus', the winged
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her
    head to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as
    head of the gods by some bigger boss?

    The Film I'm referring to is "Wrath of the Titans" ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646987/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_89

    O.K., so it might have been Zeus' other son, Ares, who was trying to
    take over .... but I'm sure they mentioned an Over-Boss.

    Now you recall.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:47:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq47v72vpce2003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 5:04 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:

    <Snip>

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced
    Doctor Who have fallen through the floor to under 1.5
    million.

    More people need to watch it so that others don't have to
    then.

    So DON'T put it on any Streaming Service and lock out those
    who don't/will not pay for such services.

    Stop free-loading and pay for it then...

    But if you don't, Agamemnon will watch it so you don't have to!


    OR get IPTV.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:47:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10us3hc$28coo$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 8:54 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 5:04 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:

    <Snip>

    Don't like something - don't watch it!

    They're not. The ratings for the degeneracy that replaced
    Doctor Who have fallen through the floor to under 1.5
    million.

    More people need to watch it so that others don't have to
    then.

    So DON'T put it on any Streaming Service and lock out those
    who don't/will not pay for such services.

    Stop free-loading and pay for it then...

    But if you don't, Agamemnon will watch it so you don't have to!

    He's such a great guy, doing that for us!! ;-P

    You think?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:49:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.447b613ab6b511f1989ef4@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10us0vs$27ii1$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 23/05/2026 1:42 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her
    head to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as
    head of the gods by some bigger boss?

    The Film I'm referring to is "Wrath of the Titans" ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646987/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_89 >>
    O.K., so it might have been Zeus' other son, Ares, who was trying to
    take over .... but I'm sure they mentioned an Over-Boss

    From the title, I'd think the Titans had been unsealed and were coming
    for their revenge on the Olympians. It sounds like the title doesn't
    have much to do with the movie. :-) Saturn would be a good choice for an >Overboss, though. If he ever got out, he might still be able to wipe the >floor with Zeus.


    Ever saw that one?


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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 18:06:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.


    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    5 normal people and an AI chatbot.

    Maybe we should ask it some maths questions to answer and if it doesn't >>>> show any working out then it doesn't get any marks?

    We'll start of easy and then they will get more difficult.

    What are the solutions to x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0 ?

    (X+3)(X+5)=0


    meaning either x+3 = 0 or x+5 = 0 for the above to be true

    That X can be -3 or -5


    mark 4/6


    If i is the square root of -1, what is 1/i ?

    I/(i^2) which is -i

    mark 2/2

    Write 30 as a product of its primes ?


    30/2 = 15 which is not divisible by 2 any further
    15/3 = 5 which is prime

    2 * 3 * 5


    mark 1/3

    Now for your next question which concerns Linear Algebra

    Prove that the following 3x3 matrix has an inverse and find the inverse
    and show it is correct. You may use any method for doing this that you
    prefer. (6 marks)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    So

    1 0 -1 a b c
    0 1 0 d e f =1
    1 0 1 g h j


    Therefore

    a - g = 1
    b -h =1
    c - j = 1

    d =1 , e = 1, f =1

    a+g =1
    b + h =1
    c + j =1


    There your inverse is

    1 1 1
    1 1 1
    0 0 0

    Did you check that answer?

    (1 0 -1)(1 1 1)
    (0 1 0)(1 1 1)
    (1 0 1)(0 0 0)

    should equal the identity
    (1 0 0)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 1)

    lets see if it does
    1x1+0x1+-1x0 = 1
    0x1+1x1+0x0 = 1

    I don't need to go any further than that

    Your answer is WRONG!

    You also provided no proof that the original matrix has an inverse. It
    does but you've not proven even by calculation.

    Your mark is 0/6

    Do you want to try again or do you want me to post the solution?



    No working out no marks remember. No one is allowed to offer it any
    help, at least not at the moment.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Why don't you watch "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" so that
    others don't have to?

    It's total degenerate garbage. I am not going to damage my health
    watching it. Star Trek ended in 2005.


    Jar Jar Abrams and Co.


    Jar Jar Abrams is Star Wars, I mean Woke Wars. We are talking about Woke
    Trek.

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    stands for." --William Shatner


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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 18:10:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 11:19, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 12:15 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.

    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    Maybe, just maybe, this'll be the NEW IMPROVED 'Doctor Who' you've been waiting for, Aggy.

    There's been no press releases to the effect that Davies, Tranter,
    Collinson, and Gardner have all been sacked as demanded by fans and Christopher Eccleston therefore what you claim cannot happen.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 18:13:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 11:14, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in
    2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on what I
    think of it at the time) but you will still watch it and review it
    here ... so we've that to look forward to at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so
    that others don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??


    I don't think so. Now you see the value of my review. I have spared what
    might have been millions of people, urm... a dozen people, the torture
    of watching it. As did Blueshirt by watching it for them too.
    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Such lack of dedication, Aggy!! ;-P

    I have to preserve my mental health.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 18:14:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 14:43, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10urun0$26qo7$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in
    2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on what I
    think of it at the time) but you will still watch it and review it
    here ... so we've that to look forward to at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so
    that others don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??


    Yes.


    He meant legally. How did you get to watch it in Canada?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 19:20:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 17/05/2026 20:54, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not
    as accurate as view it.


    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been
    the Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the evolution
    of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.


    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm!
    Interesting concept.


    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so even if it
    formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't the one in our
    Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it wouldn't be possible
    to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system because the 5th planet is
    still inside a time loop. One more reason why Chibnall's degenerate woke
    shit is not canon since the universe has still not been taken over by
    the Fendahl.


    debate time. The Fendahl's Planet is the asteroid bealt.


    No it isn't.
    Why else Did the Doctor mention Mars?


    He told the scientists debating the issue that it was beyond Mars.
    Specificity in his own solar system, that of Gallifrey.


    A cult of 12 of 13 needed. Too bad they did not know
    what they were doing.

    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !


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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." --William Shatner


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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 19:23:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 11:53, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:42 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 11:41, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 5:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:38, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 9:37 pm, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10umn76$lsh4$2@dont-email.me>, did
    daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 20/05/2026 12:20 am, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Ah!! But then you would only see the 'giant torch' when
    you were behind the chariot .... Or was it on the front
    of the chariot sort of like a Headlight??

    Helios is Greek for the Latin Sol.

    Oh!! Really, Asswipe??

    I mean... yes? Helios is Greek. He was once the creator of
    the entire universe, got demoted to being just a sun god, and
    eventually ended up

    And before Helios his father Hyperion was the sun god.

    as nothing but Apollo's charioteer. It was a downward
    trajectory for Helios, as with most tribes' early gods when
    the tribes formed civilizations.

    Yeah, they do get demoted, don't they.

    I'm no expert ... but I thought Zeus was the Boss of Boss' ....
    until I saw a Greek Gods film last week where, because 'we'
    humans were losing faith in the Greek Gods, Zeus had to Hide
    from the Bigger Boss.

    You live, you learn .... but I don't think the Film mentioned
    the name of the Bigger Boss.   Aggy!!

    What film was that? Thor: Love and Thunder? Arnold
    Schwarzenegger’s Hercules in New York?

    No, it was about 'Perseus', the guy that rode 'Pegasus', the winged
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her
    head to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as
    head of the gods by some bigger boss?

    The Film I'm referring to is "Wrath of the Titans" ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646987/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_89

    O.K., so it might have been Zeus' other son, Ares, who was trying to
    take over .... but I'm sure they mentioned an Over-Boss.

    I can't remember if I've even watched it.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 19:25:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 13:01, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10us0vs$27ii1$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 23/05/2026 1:42 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her
    head to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as
    head of the gods by some bigger boss?

    The Film I'm referring to is "Wrath of the Titans" ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646987/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_89 >>
    O.K., so it might have been Zeus' other son, Ares, who was trying to
    take over .... but I'm sure they mentioned an Over-Boss

    From the title, I'd think the Titans had been unsealed and were coming
    for their revenge on the Olympians. It sounds like the title doesn't
    have much to do with the movie. :-) Saturn would be a good choice for an Overboss, though. If he ever got out, he might still be able to wipe the floor with Zeus.


    It was a sequel to the remake of Clash of the Titans and that didn't
    have any Titans in it at all from what I remember. The original Clash of
    the Titans was much better.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 20:20:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 11:14, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I
    watched Davies' and McTighe's bestiality series
    The War Between the Land and the Sea so that others
    don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??

    I don't think so.

    Well, I am in Ireland and I have seen it. (Legally!)

    Now you see the value of my review. I have spared what
    might have been millions of people, urm... a dozen
    people, the torture of watching it.

    I can't recall what ratings TWBTLATS got... but taking a wild
    guess I'd say it was a figure somewhere between a dozen and a
    million.

    As did Blueshirt by watching it for them too.

    I'm not so public spirited. I watched it for myself.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate
    Star Fleet Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Such lack of dedication, Aggy!! ;-P

    I have to preserve my mental health.

    Doctor Blueshirt would recommend staying away from RADW if
    you need to preserve your sanity.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 22:27:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10usmqf$2f45t$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.


    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    5 normal people and an AI chatbot.

    Maybe we should ask it some maths questions to answer and if it doesn't >>>>> show any working out then it doesn't get any marks?

    We'll start of easy and then they will get more difficult.

    What are the solutions to x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0 ?

    (X+3)(X+5)=0


    meaning either x+3 = 0 or x+5 = 0 for the above to be true

    That X can be -3 or -5


    mark 4/6


    If i is the square root of -1, what is 1/i ?

    I/(i^2) which is -i

    mark 2/2

    Write 30 as a product of its primes ?


    30/2 = 15 which is not divisible by 2 any further
    15/3 = 5 which is prime

    2 * 3 * 5


    mark 1/3

    Now for your next question which concerns Linear Algebra

    Prove that the following 3x3 matrix has an inverse and find the inverse
    and show it is correct. You may use any method for doing this that you
    prefer. (6 marks)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    So

    1 0 -1 a b c
    0 1 0 d e f =1
    1 0 1 g h j


    Therefore

    a - g = 1
    b -h =1
    c - j = 1

    d =1 , e = 1, f =1

    a+g =1
    b + h =1
    c + j =1


    There your inverse is

    1 1 1
    1 1 1
    0 0 0

    Did you check that answer?

    (1 0 -1)(1 1 1)
    (0 1 0)(1 1 1)
    (1 0 1)(0 0 0)

    should equal the identity
    (1 0 0)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 1)

    lets see if it does
    1x1+0x1+-1x0 = 1
    0x1+1x1+0x0 = 1

    I don't need to go any further than that

    Your answer is WRONG!

    You also provided no proof that the original matrix has an inverse. It
    does but you've not proven even by calculation.

    Your mark is 0/6

    Do you want to try again or do you want me to post the solution?
    Try again!

    1 0 -1 a b c 1 0 0
    0 1 0 d e f = 0 1 0
    1 0 1 g h j 0 0 1

    a -g = 1
    b -h = 0
    c -j =0

    d = 0

    e = 1

    f = 0

    a+g = 0

    b +h =0

    c+ j =1

    b = h= d =f =0

    2 a = 1 thus a = 0.5 and g =-0.5

    2c = 1 thus c = 0.5 and j=0.5


    Thus your inverse is

    0.5 0 0.5
    0 1 0
    -0.5 0 0.5


    Hmm ...




    No working out no marks remember. No one is allowed to offer it any
    help, at least not at the moment.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Why don't you watch "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" so that
    others don't have to?

    It's total degenerate garbage. I am not going to damage my health
    watching it. Star Trek ended in 2005.


    Jar Jar Abrams and Co.


    Jar Jar Abrams is Star Wars, I mean Woke Wars. We are talking about Woke >>> Trek.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 22:27:59 2026
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    In article <10usn1l$2f6rq$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 11:19, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 12:15 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.

    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    Maybe, just maybe, this'll be the NEW IMPROVED 'Doctor Who' you've been
    waiting for, Aggy.

    There's been no press releases to the effect that Davies, Tranter, >Collinson, and Gardner have all been sacked as demanded by fans and >Christopher Eccleston therefore what you claim cannot happen.


    What press release.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 22:39:57 2026
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    In article <10usn7l$2f8fg$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 11:14, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in
    2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on what I
    think of it at the time) but you will still watch it and review it
    here ... so we've that to look forward to at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so
    that others don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??


    I don't think so. Now you see the value of my review. I have spared what >might have been millions of people, urm... a dozen people, the torture
    of watching it. As did Blueshirt by watching it for them too.

    What a joke.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate Star Fleet
    Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Such lack of dedication, Aggy!! ;-P

    I have to preserve my mental health.


    Most of us do.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 22:40:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10usn8p$2f8fg$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:43, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10urun0$26qo7$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in
    2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on what I
    think of it at the time) but you will still watch it and review it
    here ... so we've that to look forward to at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so
    that others don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??


    Yes.


    He meant legally. How did you get to watch it in Canada?



    There are UK IPTV services around.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 22:41:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10usr5m$2gdms$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 17/05/2026 20:54, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 05:02, The Doctor wrote:
    This is a classic!

    Sorry but the information from ChatGPT and Google Gamini are not
    as accurate as view it.


    What you have written is not a review. It's a series of notes.

    Where is your analysis?

    Wanda as Miss Ransome. Yes she is talented and should have been
    the Doctor's companion with Jamie instead of Victoria Waterfield.

    The Scientists - A great misguised lot trying to see on the evolution
    of mankind.

    They open up a fissure in space - Time and the Doctor to the Rescue
    with Leela.


    Note that the Fissure did get the attention of the Doctor.

    also, IotF was set in 1984 Fetchborough.

    Horro Claasic indeed.

    The Doctor being scared off by a legend of the Fendahl.

    The 5th Planet that become the asteroid belt. Hmm!
    Interesting concept.


    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so even if it
    formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't the one in our
    Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it wouldn't be possible
    to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system because the 5th planet is
    still inside a time loop. One more reason why Chibnall's degenerate woke >>> shit is not canon since the universe has still not been taken over by
    the Fendahl.


    debate time. The Fendahl's Planet is the asteroid bealt.


    No it isn't.

    Do you know wich other 2 speicies are time looped?
    Why else Did the Doctor mention Mars?


    He told the scientists debating the issue that it was beyond Mars. >Specificity in his own solar system, that of Gallifrey.


    Use scrpt to make that point.


    A cult of 12 of 13 needed. Too bad they did not know
    what they were doing.

    Mrs. Tyler Great character and so was JAck.

    Overall 9.5/10 !


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 22:42:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10usrek$2gdms$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 13:01, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10us0vs$27ii1$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
    @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
    On 23/05/2026 1:42 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    horse, and then 'Perseus' went and beheaded 'Medusa' and used her
    head to defeat a Sea Monster that was going to wipe out his city.

    Where in the story of Perseus is Zeus deposed from his position as
    head of the gods by some bigger boss?

    The Film I'm referring to is "Wrath of the Titans" ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646987/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_89 >>>
    O.K., so it might have been Zeus' other son, Ares, who was trying to
    take over .... but I'm sure they mentioned an Over-Boss

    From the title, I'd think the Titans had been unsealed and were coming
    for their revenge on the Olympians. It sounds like the title doesn't
    have much to do with the movie. :-) Saturn would be a good choice for an
    Overboss, though. If he ever got out, he might still be able to wipe the
    floor with Zeus.


    It was a sequel to the remake of Clash of the Titans and that didn't
    have any Titans in it at all from what I remember. The original Clash of
    the Titans was much better.


    Must look that one up.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 22:49:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <xn0pq4m433f12t2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 11:14, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I
    watched Davies' and McTighe's bestiality series
    The War Between the Land and the Sea so that others
    don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??

    I don't think so.

    Well, I am in Ireland and I have seen it. (Legally!)

    Now you see the value of my review. I have spared what
    might have been millions of people, urm... a dozen
    people, the torture of watching it.

    I can't recall what ratings TWBTLATS got... but taking a wild
    guess I'd say it was a figure somewhere between a dozen and a
    million.

    As did Blueshirt by watching it for them too.

    I'm not so public spirited. I watched it for myself.

    Note that I have not watched the totally degenerate
    Star Fleet Academy. Star Trek ended in 2005.

    Such lack of dedication, Aggy!! ;-P

    I have to preserve my mental health.

    Doctor Blueshirt would recommend staying away from RADW if
    you need to preserve your sanity.

    What an insane suggestion.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 16:12:15 2026
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    Verily, in article <10usr5m$2gdms$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    He told the scientists debating the issue that it was beyond Mars. Specificity in his own solar system, that of Gallifrey.


    Wouldn't "Beyond Pluto" be a much clearer way to say that?

    Wouldn't "another planet of my own home system" be even clearer?
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 08:22:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 21:12, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10usr5m$2gdms$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    He told the scientists debating the issue that it was beyond Mars.
    Specificity in his own solar system, that of Gallifrey.


    Wouldn't "Beyond Pluto" be a much clearer way to say that?

    Wouldn't "another planet of my own home system" be even clearer?


    No they wouldn't. The scientists were disputing if the skull came from
    Venus or Mars. One said Mars. The Doctor told him it was beyond Mars.
    They also thought Gallifrey was somewhere in Ireland so referring to
    that would have confused them even more.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 18:20:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 24/05/2026 3:10 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 11:19, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 12:15 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.

    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    Maybe, just maybe, this'll be the NEW IMPROVED 'Doctor Who' you've
    been waiting for, Aggy.

    There's been no press releases to the effect that Davies, Tranter, Collinson, and Gardner have all been sacked as demanded by fans and Christopher Eccleston therefore what you claim cannot happen.

    No, Aggy, just that it hasn't happened *YET* !!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 18:23:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 24/05/2026 3:14 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:43, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10urun0$26qo7$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70  <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in
    2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on what I
    think of it at the time) but you will still watch it and review it
    here ... so we've that to look forward to at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so
    that others don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??

    Yes.

    He meant legally.
    Sorry! Yes! That WAS my intention.

    How did you get to watch it in Canada?
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 18:27:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 24/05/2026 6:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 11:14, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I
    watched Davies' and McTighe's bestiality series
    The War Between the Land and the Sea so that others
    don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??

    I don't think so.

    Well, I am in Ireland and I have seen it. (Legally!)

    Lucky you??

    Now you see the value of my review. I have spared what
    might have been millions of people, urm... a dozen
    people, the torture of watching it.

    I can't recall what ratings TWBTLATS got... but taking a wild
    guess I'd say it was a figure somewhere between a dozen and a
    million.

    As did Blueshirt by watching it for them too.

    I'm not so public spirited. I watched it for myself.

    You mongrel, you!! ;-P Not caring for your fellow Human beings.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 18:30:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 18/05/2026 5:54 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ucu7n$1rcov$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    <Snip>

    What asteroid belt? The Fendahl's planet was located in the same system
    as Gallifry and the Time Lords placed it in a time loop so even if it
    formed an asteroid belt 12 million years ago it's isn't the one in our
    Solar System which is 4.6 billion years old and it wouldn't be possible
    to observe it in Gallyfrey's solar system because the 5th planet is
    still inside a time loop. One more reason why Chibnall's degenerate woke
    shit is not canon since the universe has still not been taken over by
    the Fendahl.

    debate time. The Fendahl's Planet is the asteroid bealt.

    "bealt"??
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 09:33:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 23:27, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10usmqf$2f45t$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' >>>>>>>> and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.


    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017. >>>>>>
    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    5 normal people and an AI chatbot.

    Maybe we should ask it some maths questions to answer and if it doesn't >>>>>> show any working out then it doesn't get any marks?

    We'll start of easy and then they will get more difficult.

    What are the solutions to x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0 ?

    (X+3)(X+5)=0


    meaning either x+3 = 0 or x+5 = 0 for the above to be true

    That X can be -3 or -5


    mark 4/6


    If i is the square root of -1, what is 1/i ?

    I/(i^2) which is -i

    mark 2/2

    Write 30 as a product of its primes ?


    30/2 = 15 which is not divisible by 2 any further
    15/3 = 5 which is prime

    2 * 3 * 5


    mark 1/3

    Now for your next question which concerns Linear Algebra

    Prove that the following 3x3 matrix has an inverse and find the inverse >>>> and show it is correct. You may use any method for doing this that you >>>> prefer. (6 marks)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    So

    1 0 -1 a b c
    0 1 0 d e f =1
    1 0 1 g h j


    Therefore

    a - g = 1
    b -h =1
    c - j = 1

    d =1 , e = 1, f =1

    a+g =1
    b + h =1
    c + j =1


    There your inverse is

    1 1 1
    1 1 1
    0 0 0

    Did you check that answer?

    (1 0 -1)(1 1 1)
    (0 1 0)(1 1 1)
    (1 0 1)(0 0 0)

    should equal the identity
    (1 0 0)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 1)

    lets see if it does
    1x1+0x1+-1x0 = 1
    0x1+1x1+0x0 = 1

    I don't need to go any further than that

    Your answer is WRONG!

    You also provided no proof that the original matrix has an inverse. It
    does but you've not proven even by calculation.

    Your mark is 0/6

    Do you want to try again or do you want me to post the solution?
    Try again!

    1 0 -1 a b c 1 0 0
    0 1 0 d e f = 0 1 0
    1 0 1 g h j 0 0 1

    a -g = 1
    b -h = 0
    c -j =0

    d = 0

    e = 1

    f = 0

    a+g = 0

    b +h =0

    c+ j =1

    b = h= d =f =0

    2 a = 1 thus a = 0.5 and g =-0.5

    2c = 1 thus c = 0.5 and j=0.5


    2 marks for the above


    Thus your inverse is

    0.5 0 0.5
    0 1 0
    -0.5 0 0.5


    2 marks for the correct answer

    Hmm ...
    total mark is 4/6

    no marks for proving that the matrix has an inverse because you provided
    no proof.

    Method 1: finding the determinant (the fast way)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    by Gaussian elimination subtracting row 1 from row 3 the matrix becomes

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 2)

    the determinant is the 3 numbers on the diagonal in the right half of
    the matrix all multiplied together
    1x1x2 = 2
    2 is greater than zero therefore the matrix has an inverse

    (2 marks)

    Method 2: by calculation (the slow way)

    (1 0 -1)(0.5 0 0.5)
    (0 1 0) (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1) (-0.5 0 0.5)

    =

    1x0.5 + 0x0 + -1x-0.5 = 1
    1x0 + 0x1 + -1x0 = 0
    1x0.5 + 1x0 + -1x0.5 = 0

    0 + 0 + 0 = 0
    0 + 1 + 0 = 1
    0 + 0 + 0 = 0

    0.5 + 0 -0.5 = 0
    0 + 0 + 0 = 0
    0.5 + 0 + 0.5 = 1

    (1 0 0)
    = (0 1 0)
    (0 0 1)
    thus the identity is satisfied proving the inverse

    (2 marks)

    if you are not told the matrix has an inverse then don't try to find it
    unless you've calculated the determinant first.

    the fastest way to find the inverse once you know there is one is as
    follows, by diagonalisation:

    (1 0 -1)|(1 0 0)
    (0 1 0)|(0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)|(0 0 1)

    on both sides add row 3 to row 1 and divide by 2
    (1 0 0)|(1/2 0 1/2)
    (0 1 0)|(0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)|(0 0 1)

    on both sides subtract the new row 1 from row 3
    (1 0 0)|(1/2 0 1/2)
    (0 1 0)|(0 1 0)
    (0 0 1)|(-1/2 0 1/2)

    the matrix on the right is the inverse, ie.

    (1/2 0 1/2)
    (0 1 0)
    (-1/2 0 1/2)

    use the methods above to solve matrices that are 4x4 or greater
    otherwise you will be at it almost forever.

    this is also the fastest way to solve linear simultaneous equations.

    If AxA^-1 = I = A^-1xA then

    (x) (i) (x)
    A^-1xA (y) = A^-1 (j) = (y)
    (z) (k) (z)
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 09:59:59 2026
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    On 24/05/2026 09:33, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 23:27, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10usmqf$2f45t$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,

    Method 1: finding the determinant (the fast way)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    by Gaussian elimination subtracting row 1 from row 3 the matrix becomes

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 2)

    the determinant is the 3 numbers on the diagonal in the right half of
    the matrix all multiplied together
    1x1x2 = 2
    2 is greater than zero therefore the matrix has an inverse


    technically 2 is not equal to zero therefore the matrix has an inverse

    not exactly sure what happens if the determinant is infinity. not sure
    if it's even possible to create a matrix with a determinant of infinity
    and still be able to get an identity from it. never thought of doing
    such a thing before. hum...?

    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    x by 1/inf. = 0 x
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    = 0

    or x by 1/inf.
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    =
    (1 0)
    (0 1)
    =
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)

    nope, doesn't seem to work

    screwed

    does anyone have an answer?

    (2 marks)

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 06:44:28 2026
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    Verily, in article <10utat5$2iu2$10@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <xn0pq4m433f12t2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    I have to preserve my mental health.

    Doctor Blueshirt would recommend staying away from RADW if
    you need to preserve your sanity.

    What an insane suggestion.

    It's too late for some of us.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:24:05 2026
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    In article <MPG.447bd42fe688240d989ef9@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10usr5m$2gdms$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    He told the scientists debating the issue that it was beyond Mars.
    Specificity in his own solar system, that of Gallifrey.


    Wouldn't "Beyond Pluto" be a much clearer way to say that?

    Wouldn't "another planet of my own home system" be even clearer?


    Correct.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:26:42 2026
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    In article <10uu8vv$bv7c$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 21:12, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10usr5m$2gdms$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    He told the scientists debating the issue that it was beyond Mars.
    Specificity in his own solar system, that of Gallifrey.


    Wouldn't "Beyond Pluto" be a much clearer way to say that?

    Wouldn't "another planet of my own home system" be even clearer?


    No they wouldn't. The scientists were disputing if the skull came from
    Venus or Mars. One said Mars. The Doctor told him it was beyond Mars.
    They also thought Gallifrey was somewhere in Ireland so referring to
    that would have confused them even more.


    That is funny.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:28:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uuccl$chcn$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 3:10 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 11:19, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 12:15 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to
    at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies'
    and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and
    the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.

    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    Maybe, just maybe, this'll be the NEW IMPROVED 'Doctor Who' you've
    been waiting for, Aggy.

    There's been no press releases to the effect that Davies, Tranter,
    Collinson, and Gardner have all been sacked as demanded by fans and
    Christopher Eccleston therefore what you claim cannot happen.

    No, Aggy, just that it hasn't happened *YET* !!

    How do you know?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:29:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uuchd$chcn$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 3:14 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:43, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10urun0$26qo7$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70  <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 21/05/2026 13:05, Daniel70 wrote:

    The upcoming ChristmasWho, maybe!! ;-P

    There's no upcoming Christmas Doctor Who. Doctor Who ended in
    2017.

    I thought we were going back to the moon-egg thing?

    Or was it the TV Movie?

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on what I
    think of it at the time) but you will still watch it and review it >>>>>> here ... so we've that to look forward to at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' and
    McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and the Sea so
    that others don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??

    Yes.

    He meant legally.
    Sorry! Yes! That WAS my intention.

    How did you get to watch it in Canada?

    The same way Aussies woould have watched it at the time.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:29:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uucqc$csge$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 6:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 11:14, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 1:32 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I
    watched Davies' and McTighe's bestiality series
    The War Between the Land and the Sea so that others
    don't have to.

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??

    I don't think so.

    Well, I am in Ireland and I have seen it. (Legally!)

    Lucky you??

    Now you see the value of my review. I have spared what
    might have been millions of people, urm... a dozen
    people, the torture of watching it.

    I can't recall what ratings TWBTLATS got... but taking a wild
    guess I'd say it was a figure somewhere between a dozen and a
    million.

    As did Blueshirt by watching it for them too.

    I'm not so public spirited. I watched it for myself.

    You mongrel, you!! ;-P Not caring for your fellow Human beings.

    IYIO.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:31:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uud4d$cv1a$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 23:27, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10usmqf$2f45t$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/05/2026 20:03, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/05/2026 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    RTD's degenerate fan fiction does not count.

    It might not count to you, or maybe even me (depending on
    what I think of it at the time) but you will still watch
    it and review it here ... so we've that to look forward to >>>>>>>>>> at Christmas.

    I will be watching this degeneracy just like I watched Davies' >>>>>>>>> and McTighe's bestiality series The War Between the Land and >>>>>>>>> the Sea so that others don't have to.

    I'm glad you will watch and review the Doctor Who Christmas
    special... in your own indomitable style of course.


    There is no Doctor Who Christmas special. Doctor Who ended in 2017. >>>>>>>
    There's only about five normal people bothering their arse
    to contribute here on a regular basis, so we need all the
    entertaining reading that we can get to overcome the noise.


    5 normal people and an AI chatbot.

    Maybe we should ask it some maths questions to answer and if it doesn't >>>>>>> show any working out then it doesn't get any marks?

    We'll start of easy and then they will get more difficult.

    What are the solutions to x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0 ?

    (X+3)(X+5)=0


    meaning either x+3 = 0 or x+5 = 0 for the above to be true

    That X can be -3 or -5


    mark 4/6


    If i is the square root of -1, what is 1/i ?

    I/(i^2) which is -i

    mark 2/2

    Write 30 as a product of its primes ?


    30/2 = 15 which is not divisible by 2 any further
    15/3 = 5 which is prime

    2 * 3 * 5


    mark 1/3

    Now for your next question which concerns Linear Algebra

    Prove that the following 3x3 matrix has an inverse and find the inverse >>>>> and show it is correct. You may use any method for doing this that you >>>>> prefer. (6 marks)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    So

    1 0 -1 a b c
    0 1 0 d e f =1
    1 0 1 g h j


    Therefore

    a - g = 1
    b -h =1
    c - j = 1

    d =1 , e = 1, f =1

    a+g =1
    b + h =1
    c + j =1


    There your inverse is

    1 1 1
    1 1 1
    0 0 0

    Did you check that answer?

    (1 0 -1)(1 1 1)
    (0 1 0)(1 1 1)
    (1 0 1)(0 0 0)

    should equal the identity
    (1 0 0)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 1)

    lets see if it does
    1x1+0x1+-1x0 = 1
    0x1+1x1+0x0 = 1

    I don't need to go any further than that

    Your answer is WRONG!

    You also provided no proof that the original matrix has an inverse. It
    does but you've not proven even by calculation.

    Your mark is 0/6

    Do you want to try again or do you want me to post the solution?
    Try again!

    1 0 -1 a b c 1 0 0
    0 1 0 d e f = 0 1 0
    1 0 1 g h j 0 0 1

    a -g = 1
    b -h = 0
    c -j =0

    d = 0

    e = 1

    f = 0

    a+g = 0

    b +h =0

    c+ j =1

    b = h= d =f =0

    2 a = 1 thus a = 0.5 and g =-0.5

    2c = 1 thus c = 0.5 and j=0.5


    2 marks for the above


    Thus your inverse is

    0.5 0 0.5
    0 1 0
    -0.5 0 0.5


    2 marks for the correct answer

    Hmm ...
    total mark is 4/6

    no marks for proving that the matrix has an inverse because you provided
    no proof.

    Method 1: finding the determinant (the fast way)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    by Gaussian elimination subtracting row 1 from row 3 the matrix becomes

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 2)

    the determinant is the 3 numbers on the diagonal in the right half of
    the matrix all multiplied together
    1x1x2 = 2
    2 is greater than zero therefore the matrix has an inverse

    (2 marks)

    Method 2: by calculation (the slow way)

    (1 0 -1)(0.5 0 0.5)
    (0 1 0) (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1) (-0.5 0 0.5)

    =

    1x0.5 + 0x0 + -1x-0.5 = 1
    1x0 + 0x1 + -1x0 = 0
    1x0.5 + 1x0 + -1x0.5 = 0

    0 + 0 + 0 = 0
    0 + 1 + 0 = 1
    0 + 0 + 0 = 0

    0.5 + 0 -0.5 = 0
    0 + 0 + 0 = 0
    0.5 + 0 + 0.5 = 1

    (1 0 0)
    = (0 1 0)
    (0 0 1)
    thus the identity is satisfied proving the inverse

    (2 marks)

    if you are not told the matrix has an inverse then don't try to find it >unless you've calculated the determinant first.

    the fastest way to find the inverse once you know there is one is as >follows, by diagonalisation:

    (1 0 -1)|(1 0 0)
    (0 1 0)|(0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)|(0 0 1)

    on both sides add row 3 to row 1 and divide by 2
    (1 0 0)|(1/2 0 1/2)
    (0 1 0)|(0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)|(0 0 1)

    on both sides subtract the new row 1 from row 3
    (1 0 0)|(1/2 0 1/2)
    (0 1 0)|(0 1 0)
    (0 0 1)|(-1/2 0 1/2)

    the matrix on the right is the inverse, ie.

    (1/2 0 1/2)
    (0 1 0)
    (-1/2 0 1/2)

    use the methods above to solve matrices that are 4x4 or greater
    otherwise you will be at it almost forever.

    this is also the fastest way to solve linear simultaneous equations.

    If AxA^-1 = I = A^-1xA then

    (x) (i) (x)
    A^-1xA (y) = A^-1 (j) = (y)
    (z) (k) (z)


    Interesting I came throw you something from My past.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:31:52 2026
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    In article <10uuemg$d9io$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 09:33, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 23:27, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10usmqf$2f45t$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,

    Method 1: finding the determinant (the fast way)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    by Gaussian elimination subtracting row 1 from row 3 the matrix becomes

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 2)

    the determinant is the 3 numbers on the diagonal in the right half of
    the matrix all multiplied together
    1x1x2 = 2
    2 is greater than zero therefore the matrix has an inverse


    technically 2 is not equal to zero therefore the matrix has an inverse

    not exactly sure what happens if the determinant is infinity. not sure
    if it's even possible to create a matrix with a determinant of infinity
    and still be able to get an identity from it. never thought of doing
    such a thing before. hum...?

    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    x by 1/inf. = 0 x
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    = 0

    or x by 1/inf.
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    =
    (1 0)
    (0 1)
    =
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)

    nope, doesn't seem to work

    screwed

    does anyone have an answer?

    (2 marks)



    Do you a matrix programme?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:35:24 2026
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    In article <MPG.447ca09563a7478b989efd@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10utat5$2iu2$10@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <xn0pq4m433f12t2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    I have to preserve my mental health.

    Doctor Blueshirt would recommend staying away from RADW if
    you need to preserve your sanity.

    What an insane suggestion.

    It's too late for some of us.


    Ha! Ha!!

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 19:02:32 2026
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    On 24/05/2026 12:31, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uuemg$d9io$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 09:33, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 23:27, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10usmqf$2f45t$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,

    Method 1: finding the determinant (the fast way)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    by Gaussian elimination subtracting row 1 from row 3 the matrix becomes

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 2)

    the determinant is the 3 numbers on the diagonal in the right half of
    the matrix all multiplied together
    1x1x2 = 2
    2 is greater than zero therefore the matrix has an inverse


    technically 2 is not equal to zero therefore the matrix has an inverse

    not exactly sure what happens if the determinant is infinity. not sure
    if it's even possible to create a matrix with a determinant of infinity
    and still be able to get an identity from it. never thought of doing
    such a thing before. hum...?

    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    x by 1/inf. = 0 x
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    = 0

    or x by 1/inf.
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    =
    (1 0)
    (0 1)
    =
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)

    nope, doesn't seem to work

    screwed

    does anyone have an answer?

    (2 marks)



    Do you a matrix programme?


    No, and they are not reliable because of situations like the above. I
    was planning on writing my own to mess around with AI.

    The basic issue boils down to inf. x 1/inf. x inf.

    1/inf. is undefined but if you take a limit you can get it to become
    zero, but there's 3 infinities in the above expression.

    Does infinity commute?

    lim = (t^2)/t = inf.
    inf.

    this does not produce the identity.

    wait, wait, wait, the determinant is actually infinity x infinity.

    lim = (t^2)/(txt) = 1
    inf.

    that solves it!

    LOL
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 18:29:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10uvefp$nk38$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 12:31, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uuemg$d9io$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 09:33, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 23:27, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10usmqf$2f45t$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,

    Method 1: finding the determinant (the fast way)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    by Gaussian elimination subtracting row 1 from row 3 the matrix becomes >>>>
    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 2)

    the determinant is the 3 numbers on the diagonal in the right half of
    the matrix all multiplied together
    1x1x2 = 2
    2 is greater than zero therefore the matrix has an inverse


    technically 2 is not equal to zero therefore the matrix has an inverse

    not exactly sure what happens if the determinant is infinity. not sure
    if it's even possible to create a matrix with a determinant of infinity
    and still be able to get an identity from it. never thought of doing
    such a thing before. hum...?

    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    x by 1/inf. = 0 x
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    = 0

    or x by 1/inf.
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    =
    (1 0)
    (0 1)
    =
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)

    nope, doesn't seem to work

    screwed

    does anyone have an answer?

    (2 marks)



    Do you a matrix programme?


    No, and they are not reliable because of situations like the above. I
    was planning on writing my own to mess around with AI.

    The basic issue boils down to inf. x 1/inf. x inf.

    1/inf. is undefined but if you take a limit you can get it to become
    zero, but there's 3 infinities in the above expression.

    Does infinity commute?

    lim = (t^2)/t = inf.
    inf.

    this does not produce the identity.

    wait, wait, wait, the determinant is actually infinity x infinity.

    lim = (t^2)/(txt) = 1
    inf.

    that solves it!

    LOL


    <VBG>

    try

    ( 1000 500 36 27) (a) (9)
    (9000 20 54 9 ) (b) =(3)
    (3560 100 27 18) (c) (6)
    (4000 300 18 45) (d) (15)

    Be my guest to solve.

    --
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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 21:41:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 24/05/2026 19:29, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uvefp$nk38$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 12:31, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10uuemg$d9io$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 24/05/2026 09:33, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 23:27, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10usmqf$2f45t$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:41, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ureen$21phf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 05:55, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10ur2k8$1uhrr$2@dont-email.me>,

    Method 1: finding the determinant (the fast way)

    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (1 0 1)

    by Gaussian elimination subtracting row 1 from row 3 the matrix becomes >>>>>
    (1 0 -1)
    (0 1 0)
    (0 0 2)

    the determinant is the 3 numbers on the diagonal in the right half of >>>>> the matrix all multiplied together
    1x1x2 = 2
    2 is greater than zero therefore the matrix has an inverse


    technically 2 is not equal to zero therefore the matrix has an inverse >>>>
    not exactly sure what happens if the determinant is infinity. not sure >>>> if it's even possible to create a matrix with a determinant of infinity >>>> and still be able to get an identity from it. never thought of doing
    such a thing before. hum...?

    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    x by 1/inf. = 0 x
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    = 0

    or x by 1/inf.
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)
    =
    (1 0)
    (0 1)
    =
    (inf. 0)
    (0 inf.)

    nope, doesn't seem to work

    screwed

    does anyone have an answer?

    (2 marks)



    Do you a matrix programme?


    No, and they are not reliable because of situations like the above. I
    was planning on writing my own to mess around with AI.

    The basic issue boils down to inf. x 1/inf. x inf.

    1/inf. is undefined but if you take a limit you can get it to become
    zero, but there's 3 infinities in the above expression.

    Does infinity commute?

    lim = (t^2)/t = inf.
    inf.

    this does not produce the identity.

    wait, wait, wait, the determinant is actually infinity x infinity.

    lim = (t^2)/(txt) = 1
    inf.

    that solves it!

    LOL


    <VBG>

    try

    ( 1000 500 36 27) (a) (9)
    (9000 20 54 9 ) (b) =(3)
    (3560 100 27 18) (c) (6)
    (4000 300 18 45) (d) (15)

    Be my guest to solve.


    ( 1000 500 36 27) (a) (9)
    (9000 20 54 9 ) (b) =(3)
    (3560 100 27 18) (c) (6)
    (4000 300 18 45) (d) (15)

    ( 1000 500 36 27)|(9)
    (9000 20 54 9 )|(3)
    (3560 100 27 18)|(6)
    (4000 300 18 45)|(15)

    divide row1 by 3 gives
    ( 1000/3 500/3 36/3 9)|(3)
    (9000 20 54 9 )|(3)
    (3560 100 27 18)|(6)
    (4000 300 18 45)|(15)

    subtract Row2 from Row1 gives
    ( [1000/3]-9000 [500/3]-20 [36/3]-54 0)|(0)
    (9000 20 54 9 ) |(3)
    (3560 100 27 18) |(6)
    (4000 300 18 45) |(15)

    {[1000/3]-9000}a = 0
    therefore a=0

    subtract 2xRow2 from Row3 gives
    ( [1000/3]-9000 [500/3]-20 [36/3]-54 0)|(0)
    (9000 20 54 9 ) |(3)
    (3560-18000 100-40 27-108 0) |(0)
    (4000 300 18 45) |(15)

    [27-108]c = 0
    therefore c = 0

    subtract 1/5 of row4 from row2
    ( [1000/3]-9000 [500/3]-20 [36/3]-54 0)|(0)
    (9000-4000/5 20-300/5 54-18/5 0 ) |(0)
    (3560-18000 100-40 27-108 0) |(0)
    (4000 300 18 45) |(15)

    gives [20-300/5]b = 0
    therefore b = 0

    that leaves 45d = 15
    therefore d=1/3

    ( 1000 500 36 27)(0) (9)
    (9000 20 54 9 )(0) = (3)
    (3560 100 27 18)(0) (6)
    (4000 300 18 45)(1/3) (15)

    solving
    27/3 = 9
    9/3 = 3
    18/3 = 6
    45/3 = 15
    do not even contemplate asking me to find the inverse or determinant of
    that matrix
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 20:48:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 24/05/2026 6:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 11:14, Daniel70 wrote:

    Has anyone outside Britain seen this series??

    I don't think so.

    Well, I am in Ireland and I have seen it. (Legally!)

    Lucky you??

    Lucky is not the word I'd use.

    I went in hoping for the best but expecting the worse...
    needless to say, RTD didn't disappoint.

    As did Blueshirt by watching it for them too.

    I'm not so public spirited. I watched it for myself.

    You mongrel, you!! Not caring for your fellow Human beings.

    Fuck 'em.



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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 20:49:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10utat5$2iu2$10@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <xn0pq4m433f12t2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    I have to preserve my mental health.

    Doctor Blueshirt would recommend staying away from
    RADW if you need to preserve your sanity.

    What an insane suggestion.

    It's too late for some of us.

    All of us... or we wouldn't be here!!!

    Maybe that's why Wilson, Tim and Mike have escaped? They got
    sense!
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