• The Sun Makers REWATCH and REVIEW

    From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 01:53:04 2026
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    Another brilliant story taking aim at corporatism, a far more efficiant
    and effective way of subjugating nations and individuals than war.

    Earth has fallen into decline and an alien controlled corporation
    referred to as the Company has seized on this as an opportunity to
    profit from the remaining population by relocating them to Mars and then
    to Pluto as what effectively amounts to a low paid and highly taxed
    slave labour force.

    The children of the workers of the Company are given a basic education sufficient enough for them to perform the work that will be assigned to
    them, based on what level they are grouped within, As, Bs, Cs and Ds,
    and brainwashed to serve and worship the Company and its management,
    only being taught what they need to know and nothing more.

    This is the ideology of Marxist Corporatism, which forms the basis of
    fascism. It is a socialist ideology which treats the workers as slaves
    to the ruling elite, who are exemplified as the Marxist Pigs in George Orwell's Animal farm, and the Alphas, Betas, Gammas, and Deltas in Aldus Huxley's Brave New World.

    This is not a capitalist system which is being represented. Capitalism encourages entrepreneurship and advancement based on merit, but their is
    no freedom to work for yourself or start a competing business on Pluto
    nor is there a route to promotion. Once a D you are always a D until you
    die, and when you do so your offspring must pay death taxes which take
    every penny from them leaving them suicidal, as is seen at the start of
    the story.

    Just like the fascist corporatist Federation in Blake's 7, which debuted
    on BBC1 in the following year, and visuals and characterisation of this
    story are very reminiscent of it, the Company uses mind altering gas
    pumped into the air conditioning system to suppress rebellion and
    revelation by instilling a sense of fear into the minds of everyone that breaths it and causing the rebels to act like cowards who have to be
    forced to fight for their freedom by the Doctor and Leela.

    As in George Orwell’s 1984, and modern woke ideology, the Company also
    uses public hate campaigns, spectacles and executions to motivate the
    people, who call themselves Comrades just like in and Marxist state, to
    work and take their minds away from their suffering and taxation.

    There is also the equivalent to the fate of Vaporisation in 1984 after dissidents have been tracked, captured and re-educated to accept and
    worship the Company's ideology after which they are Steamed. The Doctor
    is captured and almost has his mind erased and reprogrammed when
    subjected to this fate, and Leela is also captured and after resisting
    is sentenced to immediate Steaming.

    This story features Michael Keating, who passed away on Thursday, Villa
    from Blake's 7, in the supporting role of Goudry who forms part of a
    group of workers who have escaped the primary city which has a
    population of about 50,000,000, into the underground tunnels because
    they would not have been able to pay their taxes and survive if they
    continued living above.

    Nobody but the top management is allowed to set foot on the surface of
    Pluto and see any of the artificial suns which the Company has built and fuels, each serving one of 6 one kilometre tall city towers.

    The Doctor arrives on the 9th planet of the Solar System, Pluto, along
    with Leela, and, after saving Cordo from jumping to his death off one of
    the towers, they are mistaken for agents from another company who want
    to ferment a revolution, which in the course of events they end up accomplishing and overthrow the company top level management and its
    alien boss, known as the Collector, after the Doctor shuts down the mind altering rebellion suppressing gas from being pumped into the city, and
    fakes a public video announcement telling the workers the management
    have all been toppled and are now bing held captive so there is nothing
    to stop them from revolting. He then hacks into the Company's computer
    and programmes it to pay a tax on productivity which makes the Company
    go bankrupt and forces the Collector to liquidate both the Company and himself.

    K9 takes his first outing outside of the TARDIS in this story and helps
    to defend and save both the Doctor and Leela.

    After the revolution is accomplished the Doctor suggests the colonists
    return to Earth, which should have recovered by now, using the Company fighters to take them there, and rebuild, which of course would require
    a lot of work, but this time it would serve them a individuals instead
    of others. Entrepreneurship and meritocracy at work.

    Back in the TARDIS the Doctor resumes the chess game he was playing
    against Leela and K9 before they landed on Pluto. After deriding K9
    earkuer who then trapped him in check mate in 6 moves, the Doctor upsets
    the board by making the TARDIS suddenly jerk from one side to the other knocking his hatstand, Leela, and the chess pieces to the ground.

    So, just like in Image of the Fendahl, once again Leela is ends up lying
    on the TARDIS floor. I wonder if that is the reason why she decided to
    leave?

    The Sun Makers reflects the degenerate ideology and practice of Marxism
    where the huge kilometre high cities lit by artificial suns are
    analogous to the huge tower blocks built by the Communists in Siberia to
    house workers for state controlled (not necessarily owned) oil, gas,
    mining, and other ruling party affiliated corporations, which are heated
    by communal central heating systems heated by plants located on the
    outskirts of the corporate run cities which the corporations tax the
    workers to run and fuel. The same corporate mentality also exist in
    Marxist China.

    The premise of The Sun Makers reflects the economic situation Britain
    was under during the Heath, Wilson, and Callaghan movements of the 1970s
    when the story was written.

    Britain was brought into decline by elitist corporate greed, state
    controlled utilities, coal mines, petroleum producers, and other public bodies, which treated their workers as a commodity and taxed them to the
    hilt. After 50 years since the story was written this decline has not
    changed much under both Labour and Conservative governments.

    Great acting from Tom Baker and Louise Jameson once again with Leela and
    K9 showing the Doctor that what he claims is not always correct. This
    makes it clear to viewers that because someone is portrayed as an
    authority figure they should be judged on their own merits and not on
    the basis of position there hold.

    There is also good world-building which dominates every conversation in
    this story rather than trivial irrelevant soap opera inserted into the
    show by degenerates like Russell T Davies and Chris Chibnall. The word degenerate itself also once again appears in the dialogue.

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in space.

    10/10
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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 01:04:10 2026
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    In article <10uqtpi$1t52q$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    Another brilliant story taking aim at corporatism, a far more efficiant
    and effective way of subjugating nations and individuals than war.

    Earth has fallen into decline and an alien controlled corporation
    referred to as the Company has seized on this as an opportunity to
    profit from the remaining population by relocating them to Mars and then
    to Pluto as what effectively amounts to a low paid and highly taxed
    slave labour force.

    The children of the workers of the Company are given a basic education >sufficient enough for them to perform the work that will be assigned to >them, based on what level they are grouped within, As, Bs, Cs and Ds,
    and brainwashed to serve and worship the Company and its management,
    only being taught what they need to know and nothing more.

    This is the ideology of Marxist Corporatism, which forms the basis of >fascism. It is a socialist ideology which treats the workers as slaves
    to the ruling elite, who are exemplified as the Marxist Pigs in George >Orwell's Animal farm, and the Alphas, Betas, Gammas, and Deltas in Aldus >Huxley's Brave New World.

    This is not a capitalist system which is being represented. Capitalism >encourages entrepreneurship and advancement based on merit, but their is
    no freedom to work for yourself or start a competing business on Pluto
    nor is there a route to promotion. Once a D you are always a D until you >die, and when you do so your offspring must pay death taxes which take
    every penny from them leaving them suicidal, as is seen at the start of
    the story.

    Just like the fascist corporatist Federation in Blake's 7, which debuted
    on BBC1 in the following year, and visuals and characterisation of this >story are very reminiscent of it, the Company uses mind altering gas
    pumped into the air conditioning system to suppress rebellion and
    revelation by instilling a sense of fear into the minds of everyone that >breaths it and causing the rebels to act like cowards who have to be
    forced to fight for their freedom by the Doctor and Leela.

    As in George Orwell’s 1984, and modern woke ideology, the Company also >uses public hate campaigns, spectacles and executions to motivate the >people, who call themselves Comrades just like in and Marxist state, to
    work and take their minds away from their suffering and taxation.

    There is also the equivalent to the fate of Vaporisation in 1984 after >dissidents have been tracked, captured and re-educated to accept and
    worship the Company's ideology after which they are Steamed. The Doctor
    is captured and almost has his mind erased and reprogrammed when
    subjected to this fate, and Leela is also captured and after resisting
    is sentenced to immediate Steaming.

    This story features Michael Keating, who passed away on Thursday, Villa
    from Blake's 7, in the supporting role of Goudry who forms part of a
    group of workers who have escaped the primary city which has a
    population of about 50,000,000, into the underground tunnels because
    they would not have been able to pay their taxes and survive if they >continued living above.

    Thank you for the note!


    Nobody but the top management is allowed to set foot on the surface of
    Pluto and see any of the artificial suns which the Company has built and >fuels, each serving one of 6 one kilometre tall city towers.

    The Doctor arrives on the 9th planet of the Solar System, Pluto, along
    with Leela, and, after saving Cordo from jumping to his death off one of
    the towers, they are mistaken for agents from another company who want
    to ferment a revolution, which in the course of events they end up >accomplishing and overthrow the company top level management and its
    alien boss, known as the Collector, after the Doctor shuts down the mind >altering rebellion suppressing gas from being pumped into the city, and >fakes a public video announcement telling the workers the management
    have all been toppled and are now bing held captive so there is nothing
    to stop them from revolting. He then hacks into the Company's computer
    and programmes it to pay a tax on productivity which makes the Company
    go bankrupt and forces the Collector to liquidate both the Company and >himself.

    K9 takes his first outing outside of the TARDIS in this story and helps
    to defend and save both the Doctor and Leela.

    After the revolution is accomplished the Doctor suggests the colonists >return to Earth, which should have recovered by now, using the Company >fighters to take them there, and rebuild, which of course would require
    a lot of work, but this time it would serve them a individuals instead
    of others. Entrepreneurship and meritocracy at work.

    Back in the TARDIS the Doctor resumes the chess game he was playing
    against Leela and K9 before they landed on Pluto. After deriding K9
    earkuer who then trapped him in check mate in 6 moves, the Doctor upsets
    the board by making the TARDIS suddenly jerk from one side to the other >knocking his hatstand, Leela, and the chess pieces to the ground.

    So, just like in Image of the Fendahl, once again Leela is ends up lying
    on the TARDIS floor. I wonder if that is the reason why she decided to >leave?

    The Sun Makers reflects the degenerate ideology and practice of Marxism >where the huge kilometre high cities lit by artificial suns are
    analogous to the huge tower blocks built by the Communists in Siberia to >house workers for state controlled (not necessarily owned) oil, gas,
    mining, and other ruling party affiliated corporations, which are heated
    by communal central heating systems heated by plants located on the >outskirts of the corporate run cities which the corporations tax the
    workers to run and fuel. The same corporate mentality also exist in
    Marxist China.

    The premise of The Sun Makers reflects the economic situation Britain
    was under during the Heath, Wilson, and Callaghan movements of the 1970s >when the story was written.

    Exactly what I remeber it for.


    Britain was brought into decline by elitist corporate greed, state >controlled utilities, coal mines, petroleum producers, and other public >bodies, which treated their workers as a commodity and taxed them to the >hilt. After 50 years since the story was written this decline has not >changed much under both Labour and Conservative governments.

    Great acting from Tom Baker and Louise Jameson once again with Leela and
    K9 showing the Doctor that what he claims is not always correct. This
    makes it clear to viewers that because someone is portrayed as an
    authority figure they should be judged on their own merits and not on
    the basis of position there hold.

    I love satire.


    There is also good world-building which dominates every conversation in
    this story rather than trivial irrelevant soap opera inserted into the
    show by degenerates like Russell T Davies and Chris Chibnall. The word >degenerate itself also once again appears in the dialogue.

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in space.

    I like this as wll!

    10/10

    --
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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 05:02:46 2026
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    In article <10uquea$c6$17@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <10uqtpi$1t52q$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    Another brilliant story taking aim at corporatism, a far more efficiant >>and effective way of subjugating nations and individuals than war.


    Socialism in action.

    Earth has fallen into decline and an alien controlled corporation
    referred to as the Company has seized on this as an opportunity to
    profit from the remaining population by relocating them to Mars and then >>to Pluto as what effectively amounts to a low paid and highly taxed
    slave labour force.

    And chemicals of fear.


    The children of the workers of the Company are given a basic education >>sufficient enough for them to perform the work that will be assigned to >>them, based on what level they are grouped within, As, Bs, Cs and Ds,
    and brainwashed to serve and worship the Company and its management,
    only being taught what they need to know and nothing more.

    No threat to the Company.


    This is the ideology of Marxist Corporatism, which forms the basis of >>fascism. It is a socialist ideology which treats the workers as slaves
    to the ruling elite, who are exemplified as the Marxist Pigs in George >>Orwell's Animal farm, and the Alphas, Betas, Gammas, and Deltas in Aldus >>Huxley's Brave New World.

    Marxist and Socialiam goes hand in hand,


    This is not a capitalist system which is being represented. Capitalism >>encourages entrepreneurship and advancement based on merit, but their is >>no freedom to work for yourself or start a competing business on Pluto
    nor is there a route to promotion. Once a D you are always a D until you >>die, and when you do so your offspring must pay death taxes which take >>every penny from them leaving them suicidal, as is seen at the start of >>the story.

    Taxing people to death for you.


    Just like the fascist corporatist Federation in Blake's 7, which debuted >>on BBC1 in the following year, and visuals and characterisation of this >>story are very reminiscent of it, the Company uses mind altering gas >>pumped into the air conditioning system to suppress rebellion and >>revelation by instilling a sense of fear into the minds of everyone that >>breaths it and causing the rebels to act like cowards who have to be >>forced to fight for their freedom by the Doctor and Leela.

    And the Doctor is labeled by the Company.


    As in George Orwell's 1984, and modern woke ideology, the Company also >>uses public hate campaigns, spectacles and executions to motivate the >>people, who call themselves Comrades just like in and Marxist state, to >>work and take their minds away from their suffering and taxation.


    And the idea of rebellion is suppressed.

    There is also the equivalent to the fate of Vaporisation in 1984 after >>dissidents have been tracked, captured and re-educated to accept and >>worship the Company's ideology after which they are Steamed. The Doctor
    is captured and almost has his mind erased and reprogrammed when
    subjected to this fate, and Leela is also captured and after resisting
    is sentenced to immediate Steaming.

    Interesting.


    This story features Michael Keating, who passed away on Thursday, Villa >>from Blake's 7, in the supporting role of Goudry who forms part of a
    group of workers who have escaped the primary city which has a
    population of about 50,000,000, into the underground tunnels because
    they would not have been able to pay their taxes and survive if they >>continued living above.

    Thank you for the note!


    Nobody but the top management is allowed to set foot on the surface of >>Pluto and see any of the artificial suns which the Company has built and >>fuels, each serving one of 6 one kilometre tall city towers.

    YEs.


    The Doctor arrives on the 9th planet of the Solar System, Pluto, along >>with Leela, and, after saving Cordo from jumping to his death off one of >>the towers, they are mistaken for agents from another company who want
    to ferment a revolution, which in the course of events they end up >>accomplishing and overthrow the company top level management and its
    alien boss, known as the Collector, after the Doctor shuts down the mind >>altering rebellion suppressing gas from being pumped into the city, and >>fakes a public video announcement telling the workers the management
    have all been toppled and are now bing held captive so there is nothing
    to stop them from revolting. He then hacks into the Company's computer
    and programmes it to pay a tax on productivity which makes the Company
    go bankrupt and forces the Collector to liquidate both the Company and >>himself.

    Usatians in trouble.


    K9 takes his first outing outside of the TARDIS in this story and helps
    to defend and save both the Doctor and Leela.

    Immune to air chemicals.


    After the revolution is accomplished the Doctor suggests the colonists >>return to Earth, which should have recovered by now, using the Company >>fighters to take them there, and rebuild, which of course would require
    a lot of work, but this time it would serve them a individuals instead
    of others. Entrepreneurship and meritocracy at work.

    And the return of freedom.


    Back in the TARDIS the Doctor resumes the chess game he was playing >>against Leela and K9 before they landed on Pluto. After deriding K9 >>earkuer who then trapped him in check mate in 6 moves, the Doctor upsets >>the board by making the TARDIS suddenly jerk from one side to the other >>knocking his hatstand, Leela, and the chess pieces to the ground.

    So, just like in Image of the Fendahl, once again Leela is ends up lying >>on the TARDIS floor. I wonder if that is the reason why she decided to >>leave?

    Leela did stnd up to the Doctor on many occasions.


    The Sun Makers reflects the degenerate ideology and practice of Marxism >>where the huge kilometre high cities lit by artificial suns are
    analogous to the huge tower blocks built by the Communists in Siberia to >>house workers for state controlled (not necessarily owned) oil, gas, >>mining, and other ruling party affiliated corporations, which are heated >>by communal central heating systems heated by plants located on the >>outskirts of the corporate run cities which the corporations tax the >>workers to run and fuel. The same corporate mentality also exist in >>Marxist China.

    The premise of The Sun Makers reflects the economic situation Britain
    was under during the Heath, Wilson, and Callaghan movements of the 1970s >>when the story was written.

    Exactly what I remeber it for.


    Britain was brought into decline by elitist corporate greed, state >>controlled utilities, coal mines, petroleum producers, and other public >>bodies, which treated their workers as a commodity and taxed them to the >>hilt. After 50 years since the story was written this decline has not >>changed much under both Labour and Conservative governments.

    Great acting from Tom Baker and Louise Jameson once again with Leela and >>K9 showing the Doctor that what he claims is not always correct. This >>makes it clear to viewers that because someone is portrayed as an >>authority figure they should be judged on their own merits and not on
    the basis of position there hold.

    I love satire.


    There is also good world-building which dominates every conversation in >>this story rather than trivial irrelevant soap opera inserted into the >>show by degenerates like Russell T Davies and Chris Chibnall. The word >>degenerate itself also once again appears in the dialogue.

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in space.

    I like this as wll!

    10/10

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >>stands for." --William Shatner

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 10:46:35 2026
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    The True Doctor wrote:

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts
    in space.

    Yes, it's basically a sci-fi version of Jason's quest...
    deliberately so.

    Doctor Who does Greek mythology. Something tells me
    you'll go high with that one! ;-)
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 21:18:43 2026
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    On 23/05/2026 10:53 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in space.

    "The Underworld" ... I watched that Film last week .... can't say I
    noticed The Doctor anywhere in that film!!

    Oh!! No! That was a different film ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0834001/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_2_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_%22The%20Underworld%22

    Or was it ... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320691/?ref_=fn_t_1
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 07:53:38 2026
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    Verily, in article <10uqtpi$1t52q$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    So, just like in Image of the Fendahl, once again Leela is ends up lying
    on the TARDIS floor. I wonder if that is the reason why she decided to leave?

    Maybe, but TV at the time was like that for women in general. At least
    she doesn't have to twist her ankle all the time.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 12:33:25 2026
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    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 10:53 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in
    space.

    "The Underworld" ... I watched that Film last week... can't
    say I noticed The Doctor anywhere in that film!!

    Well, it's actually just Underworld. But we knew what he meant.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:55:08 2026
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    In article <xn0pq47nw2veqp6001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts
    in space.

    Yes, it's basically a sci-fi version of Jason's quest...
    deliberately so.

    Doctor Who does Greek mythology. Something tells me
    you'll go high with that one! ;-)

    It also introduces one reason why the Time Lords started
    their non-interference policy.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:56:13 2026
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    In article <10us2em$2824r$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 10:53 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in space.

    "The Underworld" ... I watched that Film last week .... can't say I
    noticed The Doctor anywhere in that film!!

    Oh!! No! That was a different film ....

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0834001/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_2_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_%22The%20Underworld%22

    Or was it ... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320691/?ref_=fn_t_1
    --
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    You got the idea.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:58:36 2026
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    In article <MPG.447b5f4f504ebb3e989ef3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uqtpi$1t52q$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    So, just like in Image of the Fendahl, once again Leela is ends up lying
    on the TARDIS floor. I wonder if that is the reason why she decided to
    leave?

    Maybe, but TV at the time was like that for women in general. At least
    she doesn't have to twist her ankle all the time.


    Who are you thinking of?

    BTW Louise Jameson at 75 is a pictureof Health just like
    she was 50 years ago.

    Check out Emmerdale.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 13:58:58 2026
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    In article <xn0pq4a1c2yk2jb000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 10:53 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in
    space.

    "The Underworld" ... I watched that Film last week... can't
    say I noticed The Doctor anywhere in that film!!

    Well, it's actually just Underworld. But we knew what he meant.

    Correct!
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 20:24:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 13:33, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 10:53 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in
    space.

    "The Underworld" ... I watched that Film last week... can't
    say I noticed The Doctor anywhere in that film!!

    Well, it's actually just Underworld. But we knew what he meant.

    Oh damn, that's another title that the Target novelisations have
    corrupted by adding "The" to the beginning of and making their version
    more popular. "Underworld" it is, just like "Horror of Fang Rock",
    "Image of the Fendahl" and "Pyramids of Mars". Then of course there's novelisations like "The Cave Monsters" which are not even named based on
    the original titles.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 20:28:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 14:58, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447b5f4f504ebb3e989ef3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uqtpi$1t52q$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    So, just like in Image of the Fendahl, once again Leela is ends up lying >>> on the TARDIS floor. I wonder if that is the reason why she decided to
    leave?

    Maybe, but TV at the time was like that for women in general. At least
    she doesn't have to twist her ankle all the time.


    Who are you thinking of?

    Sarah Jane Smith.


    BTW Louise Jameson at 75 is a pictureof Health just like
    she was 50 years ago.

    Check out Emmerdale.

    Not watched a single episode of that after it stopped being a farm. I
    only ever watched it because I thought something called Emmerdale Farm
    would be about animals and I didn't see many there. The only reason I
    ever watched Coronation Street was because I wanted to see them feeding
    the cat that kept walking across their rooftops and they never did so I stopped watching that too.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 20:31:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    On 23/05/2026 14:58, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447b5f4f504ebb3e989ef3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uqtpi$1t52q$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    So, just like in Image of the Fendahl, once again Leela is ends up lying >>> on the TARDIS floor. I wonder if that is the reason why she decided to
    leave?

    Maybe, but TV at the time was like that for women in general. At least
    she doesn't have to twist her ankle all the time.


    Who are you thinking of?

    Sarah Jane Smith.


    BTW Louise Jameson at 75 is a pictureof Health just like
    she was 50 years ago.

    Check out Emmerdale.

    Not watched a single episode of that after it stopped being a farm. I
    only ever watched it because I thought something called Emmerdale Farm
    would be about animals and I didn't see many there. The only reason I
    ever watched Coronation Street was because I wanted to see them feeding
    the cat that kept walking across their rooftops and they never did so I stopped watching that too.
    --
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 20:20:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 13:33, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 10:53 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in
    space.

    "The Underworld" ... I watched that Film last week... can't
    say I noticed The Doctor anywhere in that film!!

    Well, it's actually just Underworld. But we knew what he
    meant.

    Oh damn, that's another title that the Target novelisations
    have corrupted by adding "The" to the beginning of and making
    their version more popular. "Underworld" it is, just like
    "Horror of Fang Rock", "Image of the Fendahl" and "Pyramids of
    Mars". Then of course there's novelisations like "The Cave
    Monsters" which are not even named based on the original
    titles.

    I always [wrongly] add 'The' to titles because of the Target
    novels... I did it the other week with "Horror of Fang Rock".
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat May 23 22:48:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10usv5c$2hk3g$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 14:58, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <MPG.447b5f4f504ebb3e989ef3@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10uqtpi$1t52q$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    So, just like in Image of the Fendahl, once again Leela is ends up lying >>>> on the TARDIS floor. I wonder if that is the reason why she decided to >>>> leave?

    Maybe, but TV at the time was like that for women in general. At least
    she doesn't have to twist her ankle all the time.


    Who are you thinking of?

    Sarah Jane Smith.


    BTW Louise Jameson at 75 is a pictureof Health just like
    she was 50 years ago.

    Check out Emmerdale.

    Not watched a single episode of that after it stopped being a farm. I
    only ever watched it because I thought something called Emmerdale Farm
    would be about animals and I didn't see many there. The only reason I
    ever watched Coronation Street was because I wanted to see them feeding
    the cat that kept walking across their rooftops and they never did so I >stopped watching that too.


    And thene there is Corrydale.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Sat May 23 22:51:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <10usutg$2hi33$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/05/2026 13:33, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 23/05/2026 10:53 am, The True Doctor wrote:

    <Snip>

    Next week The Underworld, or Jason and the Argonauts in
    space.

    "The Underworld" ... I watched that Film last week... can't
    say I noticed The Doctor anywhere in that film!!

    Well, it's actually just Underworld. But we knew what he meant.

    Oh damn, that's another title that the Target novelisations have
    corrupted by adding "The" to the beginning of and making their version
    more popular. "Underworld" it is, just like "Horror of Fang Rock",
    "Image of the Fendahl" and "Pyramids of Mars". Then of course there's >novelisations like "The Cave Monsters" which are not even named based on
    the original titles.


    The Cave Monsters is very highly rated.

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 06:15:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    Verily, in article <10usv5c$2hk3g$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 23/05/2026 14:58, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Maybe, but TV at the time was like that for women in general. At least
    she doesn't have to twist her ankle all the time.


    Who are you thinking of?

    Sarah Jane Smith.

    Several are guilty, but I was thinking of Susan. She even twisted her
    ankle in The Five Doctors. Was that intended as self-satire? I wonder if
    she rolled her eyes when she read that.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 11:34:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    In article <MPG.447bd5eacf8fd045989efb@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10usv5c$2hk3g$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 23/05/2026 14:58, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Maybe, but TV at the time was like that for women in general. At least
    she doesn't have to twist her ankle all the time.


    Who are you thinking of?

    Sarah Jane Smith.

    Several are guilty, but I was thinking of Susan. She even twisted her
    ankle in The Five Doctors. Was that intended as self-satire? I wonder if
    she rolled her eyes when she read that.


    CAF is still alive. Wonder if she is touring.

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun May 24 20:48:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10usv5c$2hk3g$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    On 23/05/2026 14:58, The Doctor wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Maybe, but TV at the time was like that for women
    in general. At least she doesn't have to twist her
    ankle all the time.


    Who are you thinking of?

    Sarah Jane Smith.

    Several are guilty, but I was thinking of Susan.

    It's been a bit of a trope through the years.

    She even twisted her ankle in The Five Doctors. Was that
    intended as self-satire?

    It was obviously a Doctor Who in-joke.

    I wonder if she rolled her eyes when she read that.

    She'd have got it... but they could have given her a bigger
    rock to fall over!

    At least she wasn't told to go and make the tea...
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