• The Leisure Hive REWATCH and REVIEW

    From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho on Sat Oct 17 03:48:10 2026
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    Not as bad as I thought it was originally.

    The main problems with this story include primarily the 2 or 3 minute
    long opening sequence with the camera panning across a line of bathing
    huts along a bleak and deserted Brighton Beach until it reaches the
    Doctor asleep snoring on a deckchair and Romana holding a discussion
    with K9.

    I can see why the ratings immediately fell after this, though The
    Leisure Hive was mostly a very decent story.

    The rot in production which had set in with The Horns of Nimon, which
    did not affect Shada, affects The Leisure Hive too.

    Who is going to endure a pointless and boring 3 minute panning shot with nothing happening to get to the action, which there is little of?

    It was already bad enough with the title sequence being changed, the
    theme music being changed to a new arrangement, and the Doctor being
    given a new burgundy costume which wasn't as good as the original fourth Doctor outfit, and you have to endure this vein attempt to be artistic?

    More vein attempts at artistic directing follow throughout the
    production with the use of dark lighting, which, since the cameras of
    the time had insufficient dynamic range, make it impossible to see any contrast in any of the shots. Unlike most people, I didn't have any
    problem seeing what was happening in episode 3 of season 8 of Game of
    Thrones which was all darkly lit. My monitor set to Dynamic Contrast
    mode was able to handle it. With this episode there wasn't anything
    there for it to do anything with.

    On top of the terrible lighting the episodes were padded out with over
    long establishing shots setting up each scene and dialogue and character interaction which could have been more tightly cut or replaced with choreographed action sequences.

    Due to budget restraints the scripts contained less story material to be filmed, compared to previous series, and John Nathan-Turner obviously
    decided to pad them out with over long panning and tracking shots.
    Scenes which could have created or set up a better air of mystery were
    not present.

    The costumes for the monsters and aliens looked good enough, but the
    sets, props, scenery, and effects looked 1980s BBC instead of trying to
    look authentic and timeless.

    The scene at the end with the baby, which was obviously a doll, crying
    its head off while the other characters were speaking, also made it
    difficult to make out what they were saying.

    So here is the plot.

    The indigenous population of planet of Argolis has almost completely
    been wiped out after it started a war against the Foamasi forty years
    earlier. All but one of the survivors have almost reached the end of
    their lifespans and are dying one by one.

    The atmosphere of the planet is completely radioactive and the Alglins
    have built a huge dome to keep the radioactive air and dust from coming
    in. To revive the planet's economy, which unlike that of the Foamasi has collapsed, the Company has turned to tourism from other planets
    including Earth, using the interior of the dome, the Leisure Hive, to
    carry out leisure activities, sports, and games.

    In order to bring in more tourists experiments have been carried out
    over in tachyonics, with the help of Earth scientists, led by Hardin, to enable theatrical illusions and anti-gravity sports to be performed, but
    all of the promotional material is a fraudulent facade created by the
    humans using special effects, since the Tachyon Recreation Generator is functionally incomplete.

    The Doctor and Romana arrive on the planet after a trip to Brington
    Beach which is in the midst of a winter storm since the Doctor has
    arrived at the wrong time for the opening of Brighton Pavilion. K9 short circuits after going into the water to fetch a beach ball for Romana and Romana blames the Doctor for it despite K9 obeying her orders to bring
    the ball back to her.

    The Doctor decides to take them to the Leisure Hive on Argolis and gets
    caught up in Company politics.

    A group of humans have made a proposition to the Company to sell Argolis
    to the West Lodge, comprising of a group of dissident Foamasi, in order
    to stave off bankruptcy. This is opposed by Pangol the only Argolin
    still in his youth and apparently the son of the new Argolin leader Mena
    after her predecessor reached the end of his life.

    While the Doctor is questioned after he and Romana cannot prove that
    they arrived on the planet legally, Pangol being an ultra nationalist,
    Romana is instructed to help the Earth scientist Hardin, who developed
    the Tachyon Recreation Generator to get it working properly.

    It turns out that the Argolins are now all sterile because of the war
    and Pangol their only offspring is actually a clone, the only one to
    survive out of a thousand or so experiments.

    To try and reverse their ageing and extend their lives the Arglins
    intend to use the The Tachyon Recreation Generator to de-age themselves,
    thus instead of recreation it will be used for re-creation, the
    re-creation of their species.

    Someone is strangled using the Doctor's scarf and the Doctor is put on
    trial for murder and declared guilty by Pangol before he has even had
    the chance to defend himself.

    In lieu of his execution Pangol forces the Doctor to be used as a
    guinea-pig in the Tachyon Recreation Generator after Romana manges to
    get it to stop and then reverse the flow of time, which would enable the Doctor to be de-aged by up to 20 years. But after Romana discovers that
    her initial experiment became unstable and failed, and the generator is
    also interfered with by a malevolent agent, it causes the Doctor to age
    by 500 years before she can stop it.

    The now 1200 year old Doctor and Romana are then placed under
    confinement and only allowed to roam to certain locations by being
    forced to wear an electronic collar.

    The Earth scientist developing the generators needs their help to
    complete his machine so, in defiance of the Argolins, removes the
    collars and frees the Doctor and Romana to aid him.

    After being approached by a Foamasi government agent that has entered
    the Leisure Hive from the planet's surface, since Foamasi being
    reptilian are immune to the radiation, the Doctor and Romana, along with Hardin, discover that the humans that were attempting to buy the planet
    on behalf of the West Lodge are actually masked Foamasi from the West
    Lodge themselves, who the Foamasi government agent unmasks and arrests.

    Pangol in defiance of his mother sends all the Foamasi back to their
    space ship which he then blows up as it takes off.

    He then takes the helmet of the Argolin leader who started the war with
    the Foamasi and enters the Tachyon Recreation Generator, while the
    Doctor is still in there making modification, and attempts to use it to
    make multiple copies of himself.

    Pangol and the helmeted copies of Pangol walk out of the machine one by
    one and a group of them take hold of Romana and drag her away.

    More copies of Pangol walk out of the generator to form a new army and
    restart the war with the Foamasi.

    Meanwhile one of the helmeted copies holding Romana takes his helmet off
    and it turns out the be the Doctor. Then it vanishes.

    At the machine itself the copies it produces also start vanishing.

    Another copy holding Romana reveals its face and it's the face of the
    Doctor again and then it vanishes. All the copies do the same and vanish because they are unstable, except one, which turns out to be the
    original Doctor who has also been de-aged by 500 years.

    Pangol's mother Mena lies dying on the floor of her office and she is
    picked up and carried by the Earth scientist Hardin and placed into the Tachyon Recreation Generator, to Pangol's annoyance, in order to
    rejuvenate her.

    Pangol finding out that all of his copies are actually copies of the
    Doctor, because the machine operates on a First In First Out or FIFO
    basis according to Romana, enters the machine to make new copies, but
    the Doctor has set it to de-age rather than to make copies, and Pangol's mother emerges de-aged carrying Pangol who is now a baby.

    It turns out that the Foamasi government agent and his subordinates
    didn't enter the ship which blew up, but it was the renegade members of
    the West Lodge who had escaped and commandeered it, giving them just
    deserts for their crimes, according to the Foamasi government agent who appears in the auditorium.

    The Foamasi government agent then declares that he has matters to
    discuss with Mena and the Argolin leaders and the Doctor and Romana
    return to the TARDIS and it dematerialises.

    Tom Baker was good as always. I still prefer Mary Tamm as Romana
    compared to Lalla Ward. John Leeson is the best K9. In general all the performances were good up until the mess the audio department made with
    the crying baby.

    There was too much electronic incidental music which used to pad out the episodes rather than filling the time with more story exposition.

    The new script editor Christopher H. Bidmead has cut the humour of the previous series down to barely anything and replaced it with
    pseud-scientific technobabble such as tachyons, which even if they did
    exist would not have any of the properties to do anything suggested in
    this story, but since no one has ever detected on you can get away with
    making such claims. Unfortunately contrary to the claims made in the
    script reptiles are not immune to radiation. If you're going to make scientific claims then make sure they are correct or about something
    which is purely theoretical which cannot be empirically disproven.

    9/10
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Sat Oct 17 04:51:12 2026
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    In article <11aunlb$3rie6$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    Not as bad as I thought it was originally.

    The main problems with this story include primarily the 2 or 3 minute
    long opening sequence with the camera panning across a line of bathing
    huts along a bleak and deserted Brighton Beach until it reaches the
    Doctor asleep snoring on a deckchair and Romana holding a discussion
    with K9.

    I can see why the ratings immediately fell after this, though The
    Leisure Hive was mostly a very decent story.

    The rot in production which had set in with The Horns of Nimon, which
    did not affect Shada, affects The Leisure Hive too.

    Who is going to endure a pointless and boring 3 minute panning shot with >nothing happening to get to the action, which there is little of?

    It was already bad enough with the title sequence being changed, the
    theme music being changed to a new arrangement, and the Doctor being
    given a new burgundy costume which wasn't as good as the original fourth >Doctor outfit, and you have to endure this vein attempt to be artistic?

    More vein attempts at artistic directing follow throughout the
    production with the use of dark lighting, which, since the cameras of
    the time had insufficient dynamic range, make it impossible to see any >contrast in any of the shots. Unlike most people, I didn't have any
    problem seeing what was happening in episode 3 of season 8 of Game of >Thrones which was all darkly lit. My monitor set to Dynamic Contrast
    mode was able to handle it. With this episode there wasn't anything
    there for it to do anything with.

    On top of the terrible lighting the episodes were padded out with over
    long establishing shots setting up each scene and dialogue and character >interaction which could have been more tightly cut or replaced with >choreographed action sequences.

    Due to budget restraints the scripts contained less story material to be >filmed, compared to previous series, and John Nathan-Turner obviously >decided to pad them out with over long panning and tracking shots.
    Scenes which could have created or set up a better air of mystery were
    not present.

    The costumes for the monsters and aliens looked good enough, but the
    sets, props, scenery, and effects looked 1980s BBC instead of trying to
    look authentic and timeless.

    The scene at the end with the baby, which was obviously a doll, crying
    its head off while the other characters were speaking, also made it >difficult to make out what they were saying.

    So here is the plot.

    The indigenous population of planet of Argolis has almost completely
    been wiped out after it started a war against the Foamasi forty years >earlier. All but one of the survivors have almost reached the end of
    their lifespans and are dying one by one.

    The atmosphere of the planet is completely radioactive and the Alglins
    have built a huge dome to keep the radioactive air and dust from coming
    in. To revive the planet's economy, which unlike that of the Foamasi has >collapsed, the Company has turned to tourism from other planets
    including Earth, using the interior of the dome, the Leisure Hive, to
    carry out leisure activities, sports, and games.

    In order to bring in more tourists experiments have been carried out
    over in tachyonics, with the help of Earth scientists, led by Hardin, to >enable theatrical illusions and anti-gravity sports to be performed, but
    all of the promotional material is a fraudulent facade created by the
    humans using special effects, since the Tachyon Recreation Generator is >functionally incomplete.

    The Doctor and Romana arrive on the planet after a trip to Brington
    Beach which is in the midst of a winter storm since the Doctor has
    arrived at the wrong time for the opening of Brighton Pavilion. K9 short >circuits after going into the water to fetch a beach ball for Romana and >Romana blames the Doctor for it despite K9 obeying her orders to bring
    the ball back to her.

    The Doctor decides to take them to the Leisure Hive on Argolis and gets >caught up in Company politics.

    A group of humans have made a proposition to the Company to sell Argolis
    to the West Lodge, comprising of a group of dissident Foamasi, in order
    to stave off bankruptcy. This is opposed by Pangol the only Argolin
    still in his youth and apparently the son of the new Argolin leader Mena >after her predecessor reached the end of his life.

    While the Doctor is questioned after he and Romana cannot prove that
    they arrived on the planet legally, Pangol being an ultra nationalist, >Romana is instructed to help the Earth scientist Hardin, who developed
    the Tachyon Recreation Generator to get it working properly.

    It turns out that the Argolins are now all sterile because of the war
    and Pangol their only offspring is actually a clone, the only one to
    survive out of a thousand or so experiments.

    To try and reverse their ageing and extend their lives the Arglins
    intend to use the The Tachyon Recreation Generator to de-age themselves, >thus instead of recreation it will be used for re-creation, the
    re-creation of their species.

    Someone is strangled using the Doctor's scarf and the Doctor is put on
    trial for murder and declared guilty by Pangol before he has even had
    the chance to defend himself.

    In lieu of his execution Pangol forces the Doctor to be used as a
    guinea-pig in the Tachyon Recreation Generator after Romana manges to
    get it to stop and then reverse the flow of time, which would enable the >Doctor to be de-aged by up to 20 years. But after Romana discovers that
    her initial experiment became unstable and failed, and the generator is
    also interfered with by a malevolent agent, it causes the Doctor to age
    by 500 years before she can stop it.

    The now 1200 year old Doctor and Romana are then placed under
    confinement and only allowed to roam to certain locations by being
    forced to wear an electronic collar.

    The Earth scientist developing the generators needs their help to
    complete his machine so, in defiance of the Argolins, removes the
    collars and frees the Doctor and Romana to aid him.

    After being approached by a Foamasi government agent that has entered
    the Leisure Hive from the planet's surface, since Foamasi being
    reptilian are immune to the radiation, the Doctor and Romana, along with >Hardin, discover that the humans that were attempting to buy the planet
    on behalf of the West Lodge are actually masked Foamasi from the West
    Lodge themselves, who the Foamasi government agent unmasks and arrests.

    Pangol in defiance of his mother sends all the Foamasi back to their
    space ship which he then blows up as it takes off.

    He then takes the helmet of the Argolin leader who started the war with
    the Foamasi and enters the Tachyon Recreation Generator, while the
    Doctor is still in there making modification, and attempts to use it to
    make multiple copies of himself.

    Pangol and the helmeted copies of Pangol walk out of the machine one by
    one and a group of them take hold of Romana and drag her away.

    More copies of Pangol walk out of the generator to form a new army and >restart the war with the Foamasi.

    Meanwhile one of the helmeted copies holding Romana takes his helmet off
    and it turns out the be the Doctor. Then it vanishes.

    At the machine itself the copies it produces also start vanishing.

    Another copy holding Romana reveals its face and it's the face of the
    Doctor again and then it vanishes. All the copies do the same and vanish >because they are unstable, except one, which turns out to be the
    original Doctor who has also been de-aged by 500 years.

    Pangol's mother Mena lies dying on the floor of her office and she is
    picked up and carried by the Earth scientist Hardin and placed into the >Tachyon Recreation Generator, to Pangol's annoyance, in order to
    rejuvenate her.

    Pangol finding out that all of his copies are actually copies of the
    Doctor, because the machine operates on a First In First Out or FIFO
    basis according to Romana, enters the machine to make new copies, but
    the Doctor has set it to de-age rather than to make copies, and Pangol's >mother emerges de-aged carrying Pangol who is now a baby.

    It turns out that the Foamasi government agent and his subordinates
    didn't enter the ship which blew up, but it was the renegade members of
    the West Lodge who had escaped and commandeered it, giving them just
    deserts for their crimes, according to the Foamasi government agent who >appears in the auditorium.

    The Foamasi government agent then declares that he has matters to
    discuss with Mena and the Argolin leaders and the Doctor and Romana
    return to the TARDIS and it dematerialises.

    Tom Baker was good as always. I still prefer Mary Tamm as Romana
    compared to Lalla Ward. John Leeson is the best K9. In general all the >performances were good up until the mess the audio department made with
    the crying baby.

    There was too much electronic incidental music which used to pad out the >episodes rather than filling the time with more story exposition.

    The new script editor Christopher H. Bidmead has cut the humour of the >previous series down to barely anything and replaced it with >pseud-scientific technobabble such as tachyons, which even if they did
    exist would not have any of the properties to do anything suggested in
    this story, but since no one has ever detected on you can get away with >making such claims. Unfortunately contrary to the claims made in the
    script reptiles are not immune to radiation. If you're going to make >scientific claims then make sure they are correct or about something
    which is purely theoretical which cannot be empirically disproven.

    9/10


    Average 8.5/10

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.arts.drwho on Sat Oct 17 06:01:19 2026
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    The Doctor wrote in article <11auus0$1pqm$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>:
    Average 8.5/10


    I forgot to give a rating. I'll give it 8/10.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho on Sat Oct 17 14:17:30 2026
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    In article <MPG.453d117c67c7855798a5fb@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote in article <11auus0$1pqm$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>:
    Average 8.5/10


    I forgot to give a rating. I'll give it 8/10.


    8.5 * 3 = 25.5 + 8 = 33.5

    33.5 /4

    8.375

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