• [OT] Brilliant solution to shoplifting crisis

    From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri May 22 17:31:34 2026
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    California has a shoplifting crisis. Their genius legislators passed a
    law saying that stealing an item worth $950 or less can only be charged
    as a misdemeanour, leading to masses of masked people entering stores to
    steal items that they can resell, knowing the consequences are minimal
    if someone actually tries to stop them. The stores have taken every
    possible step to let these people steal without interference, fearing
    that if an employee tries to stop them and the employee is injured, they
    will be liable for those costs.

    I just discovered a solution that at least one store owner has found: he prices EVERY item that costs less than $950 at $951 and then applies
    discounts when people bring the item to the cash register to pay!

    I don't know what store is doing this but whoever came up with this idea
    is brilliant. That is some serious ingenuity to overcome this ludicrous
    law! I don't know if this approach actually works but I don't see any
    obvious grounds on which it could be challenged in court. Paying
    customers still just pay the regular price but shoplifters are liable
    for felony charges if they take things without paying for them.

    I'm sure the genius legislators who effectively legalized shoplifting
    will be angry that this solution was developed but that's just too bad:
    this law should never have been passed in the first place.

    I hope all jurisdictions that have issues with shoplifting (and swarms
    of shoplifters) use this method and any other creative measures they can invent to stop this nonsense.
    --
    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri May 22 18:00:00 2026
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    On 5/22/2026 5:31 PM, Rhino wrote:
    California has a shoplifting crisis. Their genius legislators passed a
    law saying that stealing an item worth $950 or less can only be charged
    as a misdemeanour, leading to masses of masked people entering stores to steal items that they can resell, knowing the consequences are minimal
    if someone actually tries to stop them. The stores have taken every
    possible step to let these people steal without interference, fearing
    that if an employee tries to stop them and the employee is injured, they will be liable for those costs.

    I just discovered a solution that at least one store owner has found: he prices EVERY item that costs less than $950 at $951 and then applies discounts when people bring the item to the cash register to pay!

    I don't know what store is doing this but whoever came up with this idea
    is brilliant. That is some serious ingenuity to overcome this ludicrous
    law! I don't know if this approach actually works but I don't see any obvious grounds on which it could be challenged in court. Paying
    customers still just pay the regular price but shoplifters are liable
    for felony charges if they take things without paying for them.

    I'm sure the genius legislators who effectively legalized shoplifting
    will be angry that this solution was developed but that's just too bad:
    this law should never have been passed in the first place.

    I hope all jurisdictions that have issues with shoplifting (and swarms
    of shoplifters) use this method and any other creative measures they can invent to stop this nonsense.

    If this silliness ever got to court, I'd expect the shoplifter to
    prevail, e.g., for "stealing an item *worth* $950 or less".


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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat May 23 10:57:02 2026
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    On 2026-05-22 22:00:00 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 5/22/2026 5:31 PM, Rhino wrote:
    California has a shoplifting crisis. Their genius legislators passed a
    law saying that stealing an item worth $950 or less can only be charged
    as a misdemeanour, leading to masses of masked people entering stores
    to steal items that they can resell, knowing the consequences are
    minimal if someone actually tries to stop them. The stores have taken
    every possible step to let these people steal without interference,
    fearing that if an employee tries to stop them and the employee is
    injured, they will be liable for those costs.

    I just discovered a solution that at least one store owner has found:
    he prices EVERY item that costs less than $950 at $951 and then applies
    discounts when people bring the item to the cash register to pay!

    I don't know what store is doing this but whoever came up with this
    idea is brilliant. That is some serious ingenuity to overcome this
    ludicrous law! I don't know if this approach actually works but I don't
    see any obvious grounds on which it could be challenged in court.
    Paying customers still just pay the regular price but shoplifters are
    liable for felony charges if they take things without paying for them.

    I'm sure the genius legislators who effectively legalized shoplifting
    will be angry that this solution was developed but that's just too bad:
    this law should never have been passed in the first place.

    I hope all jurisdictions that have issues with shoplifting (and swarms
    of shoplifters) use this method and any other creative measures they
    can invent to stop this nonsense.

    If this silliness ever got to court, I'd expect the shoplifter to
    prevail, e.g., for "stealing an item *worth* $950 or less".

    I caught part of an old episode of rteh British quiz show "Qi" a couple
    of days ago, where Alan Davies suggested that online stores should have
    a special section where if you can outwit various security systems, you
    get to "shoplift" the item(s) for free. :-)


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