• Flock Cameras Keep Alerting To An Innocent Man's Plates

    From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 24 22:05:26 2026
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSC4qCwmce0

    Steve Lehto video highlighting the problem of comprehensive surveillance
    in public and bad information in database. AI flies a small plane,
    choosing the route based on a digitized contour map in which a mountain
    is mischaracterized... What could go wrong?

    In the Colorado vehicle registration database, both "O" and "0" are used
    on license plates.

    A man was repeatedly pulled over by police in one jurisdiction based on
    alerts from Flock, which attempts to perform a hit on every single
    license plate it sees. The alert was an arrest warrant for a missed
    court appearance in another county. The man in question is not the
    subject of the arrest warrant.

    The man subject to the warrant was first arrested by state police. When
    he missed his court date, the sheriff input the license two ways, using
    both "O" and "0".

    Lehto said this implies that Flock cameras have difficulty making the distinction.

    The man called called the sheriff but couldn't get him to remove the
    plate. He said he needed to know the other man's name, which of course
    he didn't know. Then the sheriff blamed state police because it was a
    state case, but state police explained that the court gives instruction
    to the sheriff when the warrant is issued, not state police. Clearly the sheriff is lying.

    This guy is totally fucked.
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  • From danny burstein@dannyb@panix.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 24 22:50:52 2026
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    In <10uvsn6$rsdk$2@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSC4qCwmce0

    [snip]
    In the Colorado vehicle registration database, both "O" and "0" are used
    on license plates.

    A man was repeatedly pulled over by police in one jurisdiction based on >alerts from Flock, which attempts to perform a hit on every single
    license plate it sees. The alert was an arrest warrant for a missed
    court appearance in another county. The man in question is not the
    subject of the arrest warrant.

    The man subject to the warrant was first arrested by state police. When
    he missed his court date, the sheriff input the license two ways, using
    both "O" and "0".

    The man called called the sheriff but couldn't get him to remove the
    plate. He said he needed to know the other man's name, which of course
    he didn't know. Then the sheriff blamed state police because it was a
    state case, but state police explained that the court gives instruction
    to the sheriff when the warrant is issued, not state police. Clearly the >sheriff is lying.

    This guy is totally fucked.

    While Flock and this whole concept is James Bond
    villain level EVIL, the simple solution to this
    (as opposed to the "right" solution) is to get
    a new plate.
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 24 23:24:25 2026
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    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> writes:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSC4qCwmce0

    [snip]
    In the Colorado vehicle registration database, both "O" and "0" are used
    on license plates.

    A man was repeatedly pulled over by police in one jurisdiction based on >>alerts from Flock, which attempts to perform a hit on every single
    license plate it sees. The alert was an arrest warrant for a missed
    court appearance in another county. The man in question is not the
    subject of the arrest warrant.

    The man subject to the warrant was first arrested by state police. When
    he missed his court date, the sheriff input the license two ways, using >>both "O" and "0".

    The man called called the sheriff but couldn't get him to remove the
    plate. He said he needed to know the other man's name, which of course
    he didn't know. Then the sheriff blamed state police because it was a
    state case, but state police explained that the court gives instruction
    to the sheriff when the warrant is issued, not state police. Clearly the >>sheriff is lying.

    This guy is totally fucked.

    While Flock and this whole concept is James Bond
    villain level EVIL, the simple solution to this
    (as opposed to the "right" solution) is to get
    a new plate.

    Someone suggested getting a plate with a new number with every annual
    vehicle registration, to disrupt long-term data collection of vehicle
    movements in commercial databases.
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