In article <115c6a2$30noc$2@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:
Star Trek's 60th anniversary in 2026 is being marked primarily by The Sixty- >>Year Mission: How Star Trek Changed Television and the World — a documentary >>executive produced by William Shatner opening exclusively at Regal Cinemas >>nationwide on October 9, featuring interviews with Shatner, George Takei, and
Walter Koenig alongside Gene Roddenberry Jr. and hundreds of writers, >>directors, and producers who built the franchise from its 1966 debut. With >>Strange New Worlds in its final stretch, Starfleet Academy on its way out, >>Alex Kurtzman's contract expired, and the next Star Trek film jumping to a >>disconnected far-future setting with all-new characters, a theatrical >>documentary built entirely on nostalgia for the original 1960s series is the >>most honest statement Paramount has made about where fan affection for the >>franchise actually lives in 2026.
https://youtu.be/NNU_yQi7eP8?si=b-SHtYfErWN6sKkf
It's very sad. Hard to believe that at one point we had TNG, DS9, and >Voyager, all on tv at the same time for some period of time (plus a
movie at the same time?).
They really ran the franchise into the ground.
I recently became aware of some comics that bring Sisko back and stuff. >Gonna look into those.
https://startreklitverse.com/theseus-and-defiant.php
Star Trek's 60th anniversary in 2026 is being marked primarily by The Sixty- >Year Mission: How Star Trek Changed Television and the World — a documentary >executive produced by William Shatner opening exclusively at Regal Cinemas >nationwide on October 9, featuring interviews with Shatner, George Takei, and >Walter Koenig alongside Gene Roddenberry Jr. and hundreds of writers, >directors, and producers who built the franchise from its 1966 debut. With >Strange New Worlds in its final stretch, Starfleet Academy on its way out, >Alex Kurtzman's contract expired, and the next Star Trek film jumping to a >disconnected far-future setting with all-new characters, a theatrical >documentary built entirely on nostalgia for the original 1960s series is the >most honest statement Paramount has made about where fan affection for the >franchise actually lives in 2026.
https://youtu.be/NNU_yQi7eP8?si=b-SHtYfErWN6sKkf
In article <115c6a2$30noc$2@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:
Star Trek's 60th anniversary in 2026 is being marked primarily by The Sixty- >>Year Mission: How Star Trek Changed Television and the World ?a documentary >>executive produced by William Shatner opening exclusively at Regal Cinemas >>nationwide on October 9, featuring interviews with Shatner, George Takei, and
Walter Koenig alongside Gene Roddenberry Jr. and hundreds of writers, >>directors, and producers who built the franchise from its 1966 debut. With >>Strange New Worlds in its final stretch, Starfleet Academy on its way out, >>Alex Kurtzman's contract expired, and the next Star Trek film jumping to a >>disconnected far-future setting with all-new characters, a theatrical >>documentary built entirely on nostalgia for the original 1960s series is the >>most honest statement Paramount has made about where fan affection for the >>franchise actually lives in 2026.
https://youtu.be/NNU_yQi7eP8?si=b-SHtYfErWN6sKkf
It's very sad. Hard to believe that at one point we had TNG, DS9, and >Voyager, all on tv at the same time for some period of time (plus a
movie at the same time?).
They really ran the franchise into the ground.
I recently became aware of some comics that bring Sisko back and stuff. >Gonna look into those.
https://startreklitverse.com/theseus-and-defiant.php
On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 14:27:09 -0400, Patrick <patrick@example.invalid>
wrote:
In article <115c6a2$30noc$2@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:
Star Trek's 60th anniversary in 2026 is being marked primarily by The Sixty-
Year Mission: How Star Trek Changed Television and the World ?a documentary
executive produced by William Shatner opening exclusively at Regal Cinemas >>> nationwide on October 9, featuring interviews with Shatner, George Takei, >>> and
Walter Koenig alongside Gene Roddenberry Jr. and hundreds of writers,
directors, and producers who built the franchise from its 1966 debut. With >>> Strange New Worlds in its final stretch, Starfleet Academy on its way out, >>> Alex Kurtzman's contract expired, and the next Star Trek film jumping to a >>> disconnected far-future setting with all-new characters, a theatrical
documentary built entirely on nostalgia for the original 1960s series is the
most honest statement Paramount has made about where fan affection for the >>> franchise actually lives in 2026.
https://youtu.be/NNU_yQi7eP8?si=b-SHtYfErWN6sKkf
It's very sad. Hard to believe that at one point we had TNG, DS9, and
Voyager, all on tv at the same time for some period of time (plus a
movie at the same time?).
They really ran the franchise into the ground.
I recently became aware of some comics that bring Sisko back and stuff.
Gonna look into those.
https://startreklitverse.com/theseus-and-defiant.php
They purchased the intellectual property in order to make it pure
wokism and destroyed it.
Well, to be fair, TREK has been mostly woke since its inception. It just didn't shove it your face in every scene like they do these days.
Just look at the bridge crew of the original Enterprise-- an alien, a black woman, a Japanese guy, a Russian, a Scotsman and Kirk. If they made that today, we'd be laughing about all the DEI boxes they checked with their woke casting. But the original show did it without fanfare, without the characters congratulating themselves in the dialog about how wonderful they are for being
so inclusive, etc. It was just the world of the show and it spoke for itself while the show told interesting and exciting stories without constantly drawing attention to it.
Well, to be fair, TREK has been mostly woke since its inception. It just >didn't shove it your face in every scene like they do these days.
Just look at the bridge crew of the original Enterprise-- an alien, a black >woman, a Japanese guy, a Russian, a Scotsman and Kirk. If they made that >today, we'd be laughing about all the DEI boxes they checked with their woke >casting. But the original show did it without fanfare, without the characters >congratulating themselves in the dialog about how wonderful they are for being >so inclusive, etc. It was just the world of the show and it spoke for itself >while the show told interesting and exciting stories without constantly >drawing attention to it.
And don't get me started on the Federation's "we don't do money anymore" >ethos. I mean, that's just communism with starships.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Well, to be fair, TREK has been mostly woke since its inception. It just
didn't shove it your face in every scene like they do these days.
But the women were full figured, the uniforms were tight, and they
showed a lot of shapely leg. The guest stars were some of the most
beautiful actresses of the 1960s.
If that was Gene Roddenberry's idea of utopia, who am I to argue?
Just look at the bridge crew of the original Enterprise-- an alien, a black >> woman, a Japanese guy, a Russian, a Scotsman and Kirk. If they made that
today, we'd be laughing about all the DEI boxes they checked with their woke >> casting. But the original show did it without fanfare, without the characters
congratulating themselves in the dialog about how wonderful they are for
being
so inclusive, etc. It was just the world of the show and it spoke for itself >> while the show told interesting and exciting stories without constantly
drawing attention to it.
And don't get me started on the Federation's "we don't do money anymore"
ethos. I mean, that's just communism with starships.
Did it apply only to the military or all of the Federation? It was inconsistent. In any event, nothing about the economy was explained.
And don't get me started on the Federation's "we don't do money anymore" >ethos. I mean, that's just communism with starships.
Did it apply only to the military or all of the Federation? It was
By the time they got to DS9, it was all very confusing. There was Quark's Bar,
which obviously used money because Ferengi culture's singular drive is the accumulation of wealth. But the Federation personnel were always in there eating, drinking, using the holosuites, and gambling, so they must have had money to do it with. Where and how they got it was never explained.
And there were also episodes on Earth with Sisko's dad who had a restaurant in
New Orleans. They never explained if the restaurant's customers just walked in, ordered dinner, then walked out and didn't pay because everything was free. If the customers aren't paying, are we to assume that Sisko's dad wasn't
paying for the inventory, the utilities, etc. That the building was just given
to him and that his waitstaff was just working there because they liked it?
On Aug 29, 2026 at 7:09:12 AM PDT, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 14:27:09 -0400, Patrick <patrick@example.invalid>
wrote:
In article <115c6a2$30noc$2@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:
Star Trek's 60th anniversary in 2026 is being marked primarily by The Sixty-
Year Mission: How Star Trek Changed Television and the World ?a documentary
executive produced by William Shatner opening exclusively at Regal Cinemas
nationwide on October 9, featuring interviews with Shatner, George Takei, >>>> and
Walter Koenig alongside Gene Roddenberry Jr. and hundreds of writers, >>>> directors, and producers who built the franchise from its 1966 debut. With
Strange New Worlds in its final stretch, Starfleet Academy on its way out,
Alex Kurtzman's contract expired, and the next Star Trek film jumping to a
disconnected far-future setting with all-new characters, a theatrical >>>> documentary built entirely on nostalgia for the original 1960s series is the
most honest statement Paramount has made about where fan affection for the
franchise actually lives in 2026.
https://youtu.be/NNU_yQi7eP8?si=b-SHtYfErWN6sKkf
It's very sad. Hard to believe that at one point we had TNG, DS9, and
Voyager, all on tv at the same time for some period of time (plus a
movie at the same time?).
They really ran the franchise into the ground.
I recently became aware of some comics that bring Sisko back and stuff. >>> Gonna look into those.
https://startreklitverse.com/theseus-and-defiant.php
They purchased the intellectual property in order to make it pure
wokism and destroyed it.
Well, to be fair, TREK has been mostly woke since its inception. It just >didn't shove it your face in every scene like they do these days.
Just look at the bridge crew of the original Enterprise-- an alien, a black >woman, a Japanese guy, a Russian, a Scotsman and Kirk. If they made that >today, we'd be laughing about all the DEI boxes they checked with their woke >casting. But the original show did it without fanfare, without the characters >congratulating themselves in the dialog about how wonderful they are for being >so inclusive, etc. It was just the world of the show and it spoke for itself >while the show told interesting and exciting stories without constantly >drawing attention to it.
And don't get me started on the Federation's "we don't do money anymore" >ethos. I mean, that's just communism with starships.
Adam H. Kerman wrote:
And don't get me started on the Federation's "we don't do money anymore" >>>ethos. I mean, that's just communism with starships.
Did it apply only to the military or all of the Federation? It was
TOS had money. They referred to "credits" every so often.
TNG seems to be the era when they went moneyless.
On Aug 29, 2026 at 11:50:14 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Well, to be fair, TREK has been mostly woke since its inception. It just >>> didn't shove it your face in every scene like they do these days.
But the women were full figured, the uniforms were tight, and they
showed a lot of shapely leg. The guest stars were some of the most
beautiful actresses of the 1960s.
If that was Gene Roddenberry's idea of utopia, who am I to argue?
Just look at the bridge crew of the original Enterprise-- an alien, a black >>> woman, a Japanese guy, a Russian, a Scotsman and Kirk. If they made that >>> today, we'd be laughing about all the DEI boxes they checked with their woke
casting. But the original show did it without fanfare, without the characters
congratulating themselves in the dialog about how wonderful they are for >>> being
so inclusive, etc. It was just the world of the show and it spoke for itself
while the show told interesting and exciting stories without constantly
drawing attention to it.
And don't get me started on the Federation's "we don't do money anymore" >>> ethos. I mean, that's just communism with starships.
Did it apply only to the military or all of the Federation? It was
inconsistent. In any event, nothing about the economy was explained.
By the time they got to DS9, it was all very confusing. There was Quark's Bar,
which obviously used money because Ferengi culture's singular drive is the accumulation of wealth. But the Federation personnel were always in there eating, drinking, using the holosuites, and gambling, so they must have had money to do it with. Where and how they got it was never explained.
And there were also episodes on Earth with Sisko's dad who had a restaurant in
New Orleans. They never explained if the restaurant's customers just walked in, ordered dinner, then walked out and didn't pay because everything was free. If the customers aren't paying, are we to assume that Sisko's dad wasn't
paying for the inventory, the utilities, etc. That the building was just given
to him and that his waitstaff was just working there because they liked it?
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