• [OT] Freedom to Offend

    From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Sep 1 10:12:08 2026
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    There is clearly considerably uneasiness in the West about the growing presence of Islam in our midst. A very large percentage of people are
    willing to concede that "not all Muslims are a problem" but the problem
    of how to distinguish between the "good" ones and the "bad" ones has
    been largely unsolved. This essay makes a very good attempt to
    distinguish between the two groups.

    https://open.substack.com/pub/paulfinlayson/p/a-call-to-all-muslims-will-you-take?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=7xsprv

    I'd be very curious to see what happens if such a test were administered
    to 100 randomly-chosen Muslims here in the West, preferably while they
    are strapped to a polygraph so we have a better chance to verify the
    sincerity of their declarations.

    Muslims would reasonably argue that such a test, if mandatory, would be massively discriminatory so perhaps the test should be mandatory for
    people of all faiths in order to get a new Western citizenship? That
    might help find people of other faiths who don't hold values compatible
    with our society....
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    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Sep 1 16:01:57 2026
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    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    There is clearly considerably uneasiness in the West about the growing >presence of Islam in our midst. A very large percentage of people are >willing to concede that "not all Muslims are a problem" but the problem
    of how to distinguish between the "good" ones and the "bad" ones has
    been largely unsolved. This essay makes a very good attempt to
    distinguish between the two groups.

    This is a bright line for me. Person X does not interfere with the
    liberty of person Y. I don't need to know if he is good or bad.

    https://open.substack.com/pub/paulfinlayson/p/a-call-to-all-muslims-will-you-take?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=7xsprv

    I'd be very curious to see what happens if such a test were administered
    to 100 randomly-chosen Muslims here in the West, preferably while they
    are strapped to a polygraph so we have a better chance to verify the >sincerity of their declarations.

    Muslims would reasonably argue that such a test, if mandatory, would be >massively discriminatory so perhaps the test should be mandatory for
    people of all faiths in order to get a new Western citizenship? That
    might help find people of other faiths who don't hold values compatible
    with our society....

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    Rhino



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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Sep 1 16:49:49 2026
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    On Sep 1, 2026 at 7:12:08 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    There is clearly considerably uneasiness in the West about the growing presence of Islam in our midst. A very large percentage of people are willing to concede that "not all Muslims are a problem" but the problem
    of how to distinguish between the "good" ones and the "bad" ones has
    been largely unsolved. This essay makes a very good attempt to
    distinguish between the two groups.

    If an entire culture and society is based on a medieval death cult and we're put in the position of having to distinguish between "good ones" and "bad ones", I perfectly fine with just not letting any of them in.

    I'd be very curious to see what happens if such a test were administered
    to 100 randomly-chosen Muslims here in the West, preferably while they
    are strapped to a polygraph so we have a better chance to verify the sincerity of their declarations.

    Muslims would reasonably argue that such a test, if mandatory, would be massively discriminatory

    Yes. Yes, it would be. That's the point.


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