Does heProbably, yes.
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls, they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've
been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her >meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her >eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecution’s case has “always been about getting justice for those >three little babies.”
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls, >they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up?
On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:42:39 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've
been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her
meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her
eventual return to society.
Wasn't she going to end up being put away for life in either case? So
she wasn't getting back into society, it was just a question of where
would she spend the rest of her life. In a mental institution or
prison.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecution’s case has “always been about getting justice for those
three little babies.”
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls,
they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up?
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've
been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her >meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her >eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecutions case has always been about getting justice for those
three little babies.
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls, >they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up?
On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:42:39 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've
been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her
meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her
eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecutions case has always been about getting justice for those
three little babies.
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls,
they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up?
Our society has completely failed when it excuses a woman who choked
her three children to death. We've opened a door we're gonna wish we
hadn't.
Absolute kudos to the man who refused to go along with this nonsense.
It seems to me the 11 tried to bully this guy and create a narrative
that "he wasn't following the law" and tried to get him tossed from
the jury.
A disgrace from beginnning to end.
On Sep 5, 2026 at 6:38:32 AM PDT, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:42:39 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've
been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her
meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her
eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecutions case has always been about getting justice for those
three little babies.
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls,
they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up?
Our society has completely failed when it excuses a woman who choked
her three children to death. We've opened a door we're gonna wish we
hadn't.
Absolute kudos to the man who refused to go along with this nonsense.
It seems to me the 11 tried to bully this guy and create a narrative
that "he wasn't following the law" and tried to get him tossed from
the jury.
A disgrace from beginnning to end.
The defense-- bizarrely-- was given leave to file an interlocutory appeal, claiming that if one juror doesn't go along with all the others, the rest of the jury should be able to vote him out, like a jury is some half-assed reality show like, SURVIVOR or something.
Absolutely unreal.
. . .
The defense-- bizarrely-- was given leave to file an interlocutory appeal, >claiming that if one juror doesn't go along with all the others, the rest of >the jury should be able to vote him out, like a jury is some half-assed >reality show like, SURVIVOR or something.
Absolutely unreal.
On 2026-09-05 11:53 a.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 5, 2026 at 6:38:32 AM PDT, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:42:39 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've >>>> been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her
meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her >>>> eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecutions case has always been about getting justice for those >>>> three little babies.
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls, >>>> they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up? >>>>
Our society has completely failed when it excuses a woman who choked
her three children to death. We've opened a door we're gonna wish we
hadn't.
Absolute kudos to the man who refused to go along with this nonsense.
It seems to me the 11 tried to bully this guy and create a narrative
that "he wasn't following the law" and tried to get him tossed from
the jury.
A disgrace from beginnning to end.
The defense-- bizarrely-- was given leave to file an interlocutory appeal, >> claiming that if one juror doesn't go along with all the others, the rest of
the jury should be able to vote him out, like a jury is some half-assed
reality show like, SURVIVOR or something.
Absolutely unreal.
I know only what this thread has said about the case so forgive my ignorance; I haven't been following this trial at all and only first
heard about it a few days ago. What was the lone holdout on the jury resisting doing? Finding her guilty?
Also, with respect to dissenting juries, don't some states allow for convictions even when only 9 or 10 of the jurors vote guilty?
On Sep 5, 2026 at 9:48:47 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-09-05 11:53 a.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 5, 2026 at 6:38:32 AM PDT, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:42:39 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've >>>>> been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her >>>>> meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her >>>>> eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecutions case has always been about getting justice for those >>>>> three little babies.
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he >>>>> imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls, >>>>> they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up? >>>>>
Our society has completely failed when it excuses a woman who choked >>>> her three children to death. We've opened a door we're gonna wish we >>>> hadn't.
Absolute kudos to the man who refused to go along with this nonsense. >>>> It seems to me the 11 tried to bully this guy and create a narrative >>>> that "he wasn't following the law" and tried to get him tossed from
the jury.
A disgrace from beginnning to end.
The defense-- bizarrely-- was given leave to file an interlocutory appeal,
claiming that if one juror doesn't go along with all the others, the rest of
the jury should be able to vote him out, like a jury is some half-assed >>> reality show like, SURVIVOR or something.
Absolutely unreal.
I know only what this thread has said about the case so forgive my
ignorance; I haven't been following this trial at all and only first
heard about it a few days ago. What was the lone holdout on the jury
resisting doing? Finding her guilty?
Apparently he was the only one who had retained some basic bit of sanity and wanted to convict her.
Also, with respect to dissenting juries, don't some states allow for
convictions even when only 9 or 10 of the jurors vote guilty?
That's for civil cases, not criminal.
On Sep 5, 2026 at 9:48:47 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-09-05 11:53 a.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 5, 2026 at 6:38:32 AM PDT, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:42:39 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've >>>>> been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her >>>>> meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her >>>>> eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecutions case has always been about getting justice for those >>>>> three little babies.
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he >>>>> imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls, >>>>> they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up? >>>>>
Our society has completely failed when it excuses a woman who choked >>>> her three children to death. We've opened a door we're gonna wish we >>>> hadn't.
Absolute kudos to the man who refused to go along with this nonsense. >>>> It seems to me the 11 tried to bully this guy and create a narrative >>>> that "he wasn't following the law" and tried to get him tossed from
the jury.
A disgrace from beginnning to end.
The defense-- bizarrely-- was given leave to file an interlocutory appeal,
claiming that if one juror doesn't go along with all the others, the rest of
the jury should be able to vote him out, like a jury is some half-assed >>> reality show like, SURVIVOR or something.
Absolutely unreal.
I know only what this thread has said about the case so forgive my
ignorance; I haven't been following this trial at all and only first
heard about it a few days ago. What was the lone holdout on the jury
resisting doing? Finding her guilty?
Apparently he was the only one who had retained some basic bit of sanity and wanted to convict her.
--Also, with respect to dissenting juries, don't some states allow for
convictions even when only 9 or 10 of the jurors vote guilty?
That's for civil cases, not criminal.
Our society has completely failed when it excuses a woman who choked
her three children to death. We've opened a door we're gonna wish we
hadn't.
Absolute kudos to the man who refused to go along with this nonsense.
It seems to me the 11 tried to bully this guy and create a narrative
that "he wasn't following the law" and tried to get him tossed from
the jury.
A disgrace from beginnning to end.
On Sep 5, 2026 at 6:38:32 AM PDT, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:42:39 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've >>> been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her
meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her
eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecution?s case has ?always been about getting justice for those
three little babies.?
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls, >>> they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up?
Our society has completely failed when it excuses a woman who choked
her three children to death. We've opened a door we're gonna wish we
hadn't.
Absolute kudos to the man who refused to go along with this nonsense.
It seems to me the 11 tried to bully this guy and create a narrative
that "he wasn't following the law" and tried to get him tossed from
the jury.
A disgrace from beginnning to end.
The defense-- bizarrely-- was given leave to file an interlocutory appeal, >claiming that if one juror doesn't go along with all the others, the rest of >the jury should be able to vote him out, like a jury is some half-assed >reality show like, SURVIVOR or something.
Absolutely unreal.
On 2026-09-05 11:53 a.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 5, 2026 at 6:38:32 AM PDT, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:42:39 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
It's official, it's been declared a mistrial. As I've said, I could've >>>> been a hung jury of one ...inasmuch as I could neither declare her
meaningfully responsible nor could I allow even the possibility of her >>>> eventual return to society.
Btw, this headline:
Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy Cruz said the
prosecution?s case has ?always been about getting justice for those
three little babies.?
...reminds me that we are still living certain Dark Ages. Does he
imagine that, if we could somehow speak to those departed little souls, >>>> they'd be clamoring for Mommy's execution ...or, perhaps more
rationally, that *any* punishment for her could ever square things up? >>>>
Our society has completely failed when it excuses a woman who choked
her three children to death. We've opened a door we're gonna wish we
hadn't.
Absolute kudos to the man who refused to go along with this nonsense.
It seems to me the 11 tried to bully this guy and create a narrative
that "he wasn't following the law" and tried to get him tossed from
the jury.
A disgrace from beginnning to end.
The defense-- bizarrely-- was given leave to file an interlocutory appeal, >> claiming that if one juror doesn't go along with all the others, the rest of >> the jury should be able to vote him out, like a jury is some half-assed
reality show like, SURVIVOR or something.
Absolutely unreal.
I know only what this thread has said about the case so forgive my >ignorance; I haven't been following this trial at all and only first
heard about it a few days ago. What was the lone holdout on the jury >resisting doing? Finding her guilty?
Also, with respect to dissenting juries, don't some states allow for >convictions even when only 9 or 10 of the jurors vote guilty? I'm
guessing that the state where this trial is happening isn't one of those >states?
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
The defense-- bizarrely-- was given leave to file an interlocutory appeal, >>claiming that if one juror doesn't go along with all the others, the rest of >>the jury should be able to vote him out, like a jury is some half-assed >>reality show like, SURVIVOR or something.
Absolutely unreal.
Sounds constitutional to me. In 2019, John Roberts wrote the two
opinions giving voters no rights not to be gerrymandered into districts
for a predetermined outcome. The concept could be extended to juries.
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