• [OT] Early transitioner comes out as detransitioning

    From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.arts.tv on Fri Sep 4 17:53:59 2026
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    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans- poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting-
    hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning. If she came out as unhappy, right on the
    heels of Milo, it just might be the final nail in the coffin.
    --
    The meek shall inherit, we're told,
    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
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  • From suzeeq@suzee@imbris.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Sep 4 15:07:43 2026
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    On 9/4/2026 2:53 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans- poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting-
    hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning. If she came out as unhappy, right on the
    heels of Milo, it just might be the final nail in the coffin.


    I thought she turned into a she?
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  • From suzeeq@suzee@imbris.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Sep 4 15:08:12 2026
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    On 9/4/2026 2:53 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans- poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting-
    hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning. If she came out as unhappy, right on the
    heels of Milo, it just might be the final nail in the coffin.


    Sorry, I meant to say she turned into a he.
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Sep 4 19:21:42 2026
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    On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 15:08:12 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 9/4/2026 2:53 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans-
    poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting-
    hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning. If she came out as unhappy, right on the
    heels of Milo, it just might be the final nail in the coffin.


    Sorry, I meant to say she turned into a he.

    Yes, but many people will continue to use the 'she' designation.
    I commit the sin of using both designations depending upon whether I
    am referring to the Ellen or Elliot time frame.

    As to Elliot's troubles with finding work it's no surprise. After all
    he is in many ways a brand new person and has such needs to prove
    himself again. Which puts him up against the many other male actors
    out there competing for jobs. Certainly he didn't thing his
    performances as an actual female would count when he transitioned?
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  • From ANDREW@orn@newsnationnow.coim to rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 5 01:08:07 2026
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    The True Melissa wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans- >poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting-
    hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning. If she came out as unhappy, right on the
    heels of Milo, it just might be the final nail in the coffin.



    I'm obsessed with Trannies and the culture war. Vote Republican.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 5 04:40:34 2026
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    On Sep 4, 2026 at 2:53:59 PM PDT, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans- poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting-
    hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning.

    Well, she should know that the last thing Hollywood wants to hire these days are white men...


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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 5 06:10:00 2026
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    suzeeq wrote in article <117ffgc$11nah$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/4/2026 2:53 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans- poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting- hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning. If she came out as unhappy, right on the
    heels of Milo, it just might be the final nail in the coffin.


    Sorry, I meant to say she turned into a he.

    I use whatever pronouns come naturally to me. That's how it's
    supposed to work: pronouns, like all the other words in a
    sentence, are chosen by the speaker, not the listener or any
    referenced people.

    She changed her name to Elliott, but she's still very obviously a
    woman. Accordingly, the most natural pronoun to use is "she."
    --
    The meek shall inherit, we're told,
    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 5 06:14:14 2026
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    BTR1701 wrote in article <117g6g1$17q7k$1@dont-email.me>:

    On Sep 4, 2026 at 2:53:59 PM PDT, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans- poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting- hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning.

    Well, she should know that the last thing Hollywood wants to hire these days are white men...

    Heh. :-)

    She also has to compete against men who are actually men.
    Hollywood is happy to virtue-signal how much it loves trans, but
    the film industry is a business, and they need stars who'll put
    buns on seats.

    Right now, I feel worse for Milo. She was a kid. She got sucked
    into a fad, and her mom was threatened out of stopping her, and
    now her entire life is blighted. I have massive empathy for all
    malpractice victims, including the ones whose cases don't meet
    the legal standard.
    --
    The meek shall inherit, we're told,
    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 5 10:51:36 2026
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    On 9/5/2026 6:10 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    suzeeq wrote in article <117ffgc$11nah$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/4/2026 2:53 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12219343/Gen-Zs-trans-
    poster-child-Milo-2016-MTV-reemerges-tearfully-regretting-
    hormone-jabs.html

    She became famous, or at least viral, as the subject of a hooray-
    for-trans celebration on MTV.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Page is complaining that she can't get roles
    since transitioning. If she came out as unhappy, right on the
    heels of Milo, it just might be the final nail in the coffin.


    Sorry, I meant to say she turned into a he.

    I use whatever pronouns come naturally to me. That's how it's
    supposed to work: pronouns, like all the other words in a
    sentence, are chosen by the speaker, not the listener or any
    referenced people.

    But what to do when that choice becomes an official document?


    She changed her name to Elliott, but she's still very obviously a
    woman. Accordingly, the most natural pronoun to use is "she."


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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 5 11:18:10 2026
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    moviePig wrote in article <117ha9o$1jaid$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/5/2026 6:10 AM, The True Melissa wrote:

    I use whatever pronouns come naturally to me. That's how it's
    supposed to work: pronouns, like all the other words in a
    sentence, are chosen by the speaker, not the listener or any
    referenced people.

    But what to do when that choice becomes an official document?

    Why would a document, no matter how official, affect my word
    choice in normal speech in my native language?

    How are you on "Lake America"?
    --
    The meek shall inherit, we're told,
    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 5 13:37:19 2026
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    On 9/5/2026 11:18 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    moviePig wrote in article <117ha9o$1jaid$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/5/2026 6:10 AM, The True Melissa wrote:

    I use whatever pronouns come naturally to me. That's how it's
    supposed to work: pronouns, like all the other words in a
    sentence, are chosen by the speaker, not the listener or any
    referenced people.

    But what to do when that choice becomes an official document?

    Why would a document, no matter how official, affect my word
    choice in normal speech in my native language?

    How are you on "Lake America"?

    I'd guess that 'official documents' eventually take some toll on widely accepted language, which in turn nudges the vocabulary that comes
    naturally to us. (I don't have a position on this ...as I've never
    fully recovered from, e.g., "his or her".)
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.arts.tv on Sun Sep 6 07:38:26 2026
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    moviePig wrote in article <117hk0f$1mt0p$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/5/2026 11:18 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    moviePig wrote in article <117ha9o$1jaid$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/5/2026 6:10 AM, The True Melissa wrote:

    I use whatever pronouns come naturally to me. That's how it's
    supposed to work: pronouns, like all the other words in a
    sentence, are chosen by the speaker, not the listener or any
    referenced people.

    But what to do when that choice becomes an official document?

    Why would a document, no matter how official, affect my word
    choice in normal speech in my native language?

    How are you on "Lake America"?

    I'd guess that 'official documents' eventually take some toll on widely accepted language, which in turn nudges the vocabulary that comes
    naturally to us. (I don't have a position on this ...as I've never
    fully recovered from, e.g., "his or her".)

    I suppose it would, but there's no such thing as a widely
    accepted pronoun for a person. They're variables within one
    sentence. External documents are irrelevant to that.

    For this to apply to pronoun mangling, you'd have to get wide
    acceptance of a different pronoun system, maybe just collapse
    masculine and feminine into a single case as Dutch has done. A
    change that deep would take centuries, though. That's a change as
    big as ceasing to use "thou," which did in fact take centuries.
    --
    The meek shall inherit, we're told,
    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2