• Social media means no kids

    From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Sep 6 03:26:17 2026
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    A 30 year oldblames social media for no one wanting to have kids. No one
    his age dances, not evev at clubs. You get recorded then embarassed on
    social media. Go on an awkward date with a woman? Get recorded.

    I've heard the same things said about men not wanting yo go to gymns if
    there are women. They wear something provocative, then record men
    noticing, tnen make a post to complain about unwanted attention.

    If they expect to get recorded, men won't approach women at all. Makes
    starting families difficukt.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W32yi5k_Tu8
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  • From Ian J. Ball@ijball@mac.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 5 23:01:37 2026
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    On 9/5/26 8:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    A 30 year old blames social media for no one wanting to have kids. No one
    his age dances, not everv at clubs. You get recorded then embarrassed on social media. Go on an awkward date with a woman? Get recorded.

    I've heard the same things said about men not wanting yo go to gyms if
    there are women. They wear something provocative, then record men
    noticing, then make a post to complain about unwanted attention.

    If they expect to get recorded, men won't approach women at all. Makes starting families difficult.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W32yi5k_Tu8

    My current theory is that we are in the early stages of a population
    collapse (worldwide).

    I can't figure out if smart phones and social media are the actual
    primary causes, or more like the convenient scapegoats. It may be both. [shrug]


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Sep 6 06:22:56 2026
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    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 9/5/26 8:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    A 30 year old blames social media for no one wanting to have kids. No one
    his age dances, not everv at clubs. You get recorded then embarrassed on
    social media. Go on an awkward date with a woman? Get recorded.

    I've heard the same things said about men not wanting yo go to gyms if
    there are women. They wear something provocative, then record men
    noticing, then make a post to complain about unwanted attention.

    If they expect to get recorded, men won't approach women at all. Makes
    starting families difficult.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W32yi5k_Tu8

    My current theory is that we are in the early stages of a population >collapse (worldwide).

    I can't figure out if smart phones and social media are the actual
    primary causes, or more like the convenient scapegoats. It may be both. >[shrug]

    I liked his theory for the social aspects of (lack of) male-female
    interaction, but the truth is that kids are unaffordable luxuries to
    people in their 20s what with sky-high housing costs.
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Sep 6 03:16:15 2026
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    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 06:22:56 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 9/5/26 8:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    A 30 year old blames social media for no one wanting to have kids. No one >>> his age dances, not everv at clubs. You get recorded then embarrassed on >>> social media. Go on an awkward date with a woman? Get recorded.

    I've heard the same things said about men not wanting yo go to gyms if
    there are women. They wear something provocative, then record men
    noticing, then make a post to complain about unwanted attention.

    If they expect to get recorded, men won't approach women at all. Makes
    starting families difficult.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W32yi5k_Tu8

    My current theory is that we are in the early stages of a population >>collapse (worldwide).

    I can't figure out if smart phones and social media are the actual
    primary causes, or more like the convenient scapegoats. It may be both. >>[shrug]

    I liked his theory for the social aspects of (lack of) male-female >interaction, but the truth is that kids are unaffordable luxuries to
    people in their 20s what with sky-high housing costs.

    An easy tests for these theories is to find areas in the world where
    social media, especially among the younger people, hasn't take over.
    Then see what their social life is like. Are kids getting together,
    having fun, dating and even getting married or not?

    I'm sure there are places where this could be put to the test.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Sep 6 20:19:00 2026
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    On 2026-09-06 07:16:15 +0000, shawn said:
    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 06:22:56 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 9/5/26 8:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    A 30 year old blames social media for no one wanting to have kids. No one >>>> his age dances, not everv at clubs. You get recorded then embarrassed on >>>> social media. Go on an awkward date with a woman? Get recorded.

    I've heard the same things said about men not wanting yo go to gyms if >>>> there are women. They wear something provocative, then record men
    noticing, then make a post to complain about unwanted attention.

    If they expect to get recorded, men won't approach women at all. Makes >>>> starting families difficult.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W32yi5k_Tu8

    My current theory is that we are in the early stages of a population
    collapse (worldwide).

    I can't figure out if smart phones and social media are the actual
    primary causes, or more like the convenient scapegoats. It may be both. >>> [shrug]

    I liked his theory for the social aspects of (lack of) male-female
    interaction, but the truth is that kids are unaffordable luxuries to
    people in their 20s what with sky-high housing costs.

    Not just house prices ... it's the ridiculous prices of EVERYTHING!!!
    Most of that is due to pure greed. :-(

    /grumpy old man voice/
    In my day a chocolate bar cost 10c ... these days they cost $10, and
    are expected to rise in price again soon. Not only does ithe price
    rise, but the size is getting smaller ("shrinkflation").

    In my day a Star Wars toy figure cost under $10 ... these days they
    cost closer to $30.




    An easy tests for these theories is to find areas in the world where
    social media, especially among the younger people, hasn't take over.
    Then see what their social life is like. Are kids getting together,
    having fun, dating and even getting married or not?

    I'm sure there are places where this could be put to the test.

    No social media / gadgets would mean you have to look at the "lost
    tribes" in Africa and South America ... but then they would hardly be a
    good representation of modern humans. :-)

    Many countries have or are planning to ban social media for kids, but
    it's simply not going to work and there are easy ways around it, partly because the social media companies couldn't care less as long as they
    keep making money. (Having to upload a scan of your driver license or
    passport to 'prove' your age is a ridiculous idea that only a moron
    would do - just last week hundreds of thousands of such images were
    found for sale on the 'dark web').


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Sep 6 10:47:19 2026
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    On 2026-09-06 2:01 a.m., Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 9/5/26 8:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    A 30 year old blames social media for no one wanting to have kids. No one
    his age dances, not everv at clubs. You get recorded then embarrassed on
    social media. Go on an awkward date with a woman? Get recorded.

    I've heard the same things said about men not wanting yo go to gyms if
    there are women. They wear something provocative, then record men
    noticing, then make a post to complain about unwanted attention.

    If they expect to get recorded, men won't approach women at all. Makes
    starting families difficult.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W32yi5k_Tu8

    My current theory is that we are in the early stages of a population collapse (worldwide).

    The problem with that theory is that Africa, particularly sub-Saharan
    Africa, continues to reproduce with many large families, far in excess
    of the replacement rate of 2.1. You may want to refine that theory to
    say that SOME of the major cultures are on the verge of major population collapses.

    Actually, on the verge is probably understating it dramatically. I've
    already seen videos that say China's official population of 1.4 billion
    people may be TWICE the actual population and that around 700 million
    may be the true population. Just about EVERY Western country has a birth
    rate well below the replacement rate and has for years. >
    I can't figure out if smart phones and social media are the actual
    primary causes, or more like the convenient scapegoats. It may be both. [shrug]
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Ian J. Ball@ijball@mac.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Sun Sep 6 09:27:56 2026
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    On 9/6/26 7:47 AM, Rhino wrote:

    On 2026-09-06 2:01 a.m., Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 9/5/26 8:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    A 30 year old blames social media for no one wanting to have kids. No
    one
    his age dances, not everv at clubs. You get recorded then embarrassed on >>> social media. Go on an awkward date with a woman? Get recorded.

    I've heard the same things said about men not wanting yo go to gyms if
    there are women. They wear something provocative, then record men
    noticing, then make a post to complain about unwanted attention.

    If they expect to get recorded, men won't approach women at all. Makes
    starting families difficult.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W32yi5k_Tu8

    My current theory is that we are in the early stages of a population
    collapse (worldwide).

    The problem with that theory is that Africa, particularly sub-Saharan Africa, continues to reproduce with many large families, far in excess
    of the replacement rate of 2.1. You may want to refine that theory to
    say that SOME of the major cultures are on the verge of major population collapses.

    Yeah, but my understanding is that even there birth rates are falling. I
    think they used to be something ridiculous like 6. Now I think they are between 2-3(?), and falling.

    So the replacement population rate is apparently falling worldwide. I
    think if trends continue, even Africa may eventually fall below 2.1.

    Actually, on the verge is probably understating it dramatically. I've already seen videos that say China's official population of 1.4 billion people may be TWICE the actual population and that around 700 million
    may be the true population. Just about EVERY Western country has a birth rate well below the replacement rate and has for years.

    Again, my understanding is that birth rates aren't just falling in the
    First and Second World.

    I can't figure out if smart phones and social media are the actual
    primary causes, or more like the convenient scapegoats. It may be
    both. [shrug]

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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Sep 6 17:29:17 2026
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    On Sep 6, 2026 at 1:19:00 AM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    Many countries have or are planning to ban social media for kids, but
    it's simply not going to work and there are easy ways around it

    This.

    How hard would it be for a kid who's under the ban to just get his older brother to create an account for him, then give him the login info? Unless the age verification is ongoing, like every time you log in, you have to let it take a picture of you and run an AI comparison to the picture you used to make the account, it would be simple matter for friends, siblings, even parents, to create accounts for them and just let them use it.


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