• Sawdust Pile

    From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 17:32:46 2026
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    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
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  • From frying air@hot@in.side to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 16:45:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 17:32:46 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    Terrabithia.

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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 18:50:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/2/2026 6:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    Looks like camping at the town landfill.
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 17:52:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/2/2026 5:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/

    Tell me this isn't pretty bitchin'.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/pvm4435sFXw5d7P89
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From frying air@hot@in.side to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 16:56:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 18:50:38 -0400
    Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    Looks like camping at the town landfill.

    ...worth taking a heater along...

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  • From frying air@hot@in.side to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 16:57:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 17:52:20 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 5:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/

    Tell me this isn't pretty bitchin'. https://photos.app.goo.gl/pvm4435sFXw5d7P89


    Until it rains...

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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 23:31:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very busy in
    the area - several hundred million years ago.
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  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 19:52:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/2/2026 6:50 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/2/2026 6:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    Looks like camping at the town landfill.

    Definitely not a travel destination!
    --
    Jill
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 00:06:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 9/2/2026 6:32 PM, Chef Bryan ar dee wrote:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    Looks like camping at the town landfill.

    https://i.postimg.cc/qvFYjM6r/Drink.gif

    ~
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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 10:08:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 17:52:20 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 5:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/

    Tell me this isn't pretty bitchin'. >https://photos.app.goo.gl/pvm4435sFXw5d7P89

    It isn't pretty bitchin'.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 21:29:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that look
    like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks up their
    asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at the state
    park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out there. There's
    also a creek nearby where as long as you're a half, or even a quarter
    mile from a road access, you won't see a single other person. That meant
    me and my friends didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September, when
    we're not so busy with other commitments, there will be bathwater warm,
    clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a not overly hot air
    temperature, and it should be that way for several weeks. Maybe we'll
    even hike down to the place we called Sandy Beach. Many, many naked
    camping trips there over the years. We used to be able to get Jeeps down there, and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at home, growing
    in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9 https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 03:12:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that look
    like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at the state
    park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out there. There's
    also a creek nearby where as long as you're a half, or even a quarter
    mile from a road access, you won't see a single other person. That meant
    me and my friends didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September, when we're not so busy with other commitments, there will be bathwater warm, clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a not overly hot air temperature, and it should be that way for several weeks. Maybe we'll
    even hike down to the place we called Sandy Beach. Many, many naked
    camping trips there over the years. We used to be able to get Jeeps down there, and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at home, growing
    in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9 https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is made of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands will have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/MhpcCc1cBxTYef2m9

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5nWFzEmekm7qNXG9




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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 13:14:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very busy in >> the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that look
    like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks up their >asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at the state
    park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out there.

    Hey Bryan, the feeling is mutual. As long as you barbecue your price
    reduced ALDI chicken at the city dump, everybody's happy. Redneck FTW!
    --
    Bruce
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 2 23:42:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/2/2026 10:14 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very busy in >>> the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that look
    like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks up their
    asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at the state
    park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out there.

    Hey Bryan, the feeling is mutual. As long as you barbecue your price
    reduced ALDI chicken at the city dump, everybody's happy. Redneck FTW!

    Vegetarians are sissies. That OK if you're female, but you have
    sacrificially given up your balls. Being pussy-whipped is OK. Pussy is wonderful, but becoming an evangelist for vegetarianism is sissy. You
    exhibit disrespect for omnivores, but most of them forgive you for that because they see you as a pathetic sissy. You hang out on an omnivore NG
    where you brand everyone else murderous corpse eaters. If that isn't
    pathetic, I don't know what is.

    I stated that I don't want the type of folks here to invade my little back-to-nature skinny-dipping world. You brand those same folks as
    killers. They're more tolerant of you because you are a weakling. You
    exist on a spectrum between pitiable and pathetic.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 15:51:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 23:42:07 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 10:14 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>>>
    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very busy in
    the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that look
    like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks up their
    asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at the state
    park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out there.

    Hey Bryan, the feeling is mutual. As long as you barbecue your price
    reduced ALDI chicken at the city dump, everybody's happy. Redneck FTW!

    Vegetarians are sissies. That OK if you're female, but you have >sacrificially given up your balls.

    If you need to prove that you're a man by eating dead animals, then I
    can only smile condescendingly :)
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 09:04:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is made of layers
    of rock. In a few million years, these islands will have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 19:21:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 09:04:02 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is made of layers
    of rock. In a few million years, these islands will have eroded down to tiny
    coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?

    Because coral is trending?
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 12:40:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is made of layers
    of rock. In a few million years, these islands will have eroded down to tiny
    coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?


    I can see that food isn't the only thing in which you don't have a clue.

    https://www.papahanaumokuakea.gov/visit/
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,soc.culture.hawaii,sci.environment on Thu Sep 3 10:02:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 03:12:33 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been
    very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that
    look like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks
    up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at
    the state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out
    there. There's also a creek nearby where as long as you're a half,
    or even a quarter mile from a road access, you won't see a single
    other person. That meant me and my friends didn't have to wear
    swimsuits. By mid September, when we're not so busy with other
    commitments, there will be bathwater warm, clear as tap water
    swimmin' holes, even with a not overly hot air temperature, and it
    should be that way for several weeks. Maybe we'll even hike down to
    the place we called Sandy Beach. Many, many naked camping trips
    there over the years. We used to be able to get Jeeps down there,
    and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at home,
    growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9 https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is made
    of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands will have
    eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/MhpcCc1cBxTYef2m9

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5nWFzEmekm7qNXG9


    Far western Bermuda in the making...

    https://bermudageology.com/the-bermuda-volcanic-seamount/

    https://assets.science.nasa.gov/dynamicimage/assets/science/esd/eo/images/imagerecords/7000/7397/bermuda_l7_1999226.jpg?w=540&h=405&fit=crop&crop=faces%2Cfocalpoint

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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,aus.food,aus.general,aus.politics on Thu Sep 3 09:27:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 10:08:16 +1000
    Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 17:52:20 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 5:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/

    Tell me this isn't pretty bitchin'. >https://photos.app.goo.gl/pvm4435sFXw5d7P89

    It isn't pretty bitchin'.


    It also isn't _your life_ either, now is it bully bot?

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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 09:48:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very
    busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that look
    like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks up
    their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at the
    state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out there.
    There's also a creek nearby where as long as you're a half, or even a
    quarter mile from a road access, you won't see a single other person.
    That meant me and my friends didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid
    September, when we're not so busy with other commitments, there will
    be bathwater warm, clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a not
    overly hot air temperature, and it should be that way for several
    weeks. Maybe we'll even hike down to the place we called Sandy Beach.
    Many, many naked camping trips there over the years. We used to be
    able to get Jeeps down there, and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at home,
    growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9 https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.

    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?

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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,alt.home.repair on Thu Sep 3 10:21:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 09:04:02 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is
    made of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands will
    have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?


    Um...because coral attaches to and grows on them.

    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture2.jpg

    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture31.jpg

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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,alt.home.repair,sci.environment on Thu Sep 3 10:30:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 12:40:43 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is
    made of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands
    will have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of
    nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?


    I can see that food isn't the only thing in which you don't have a
    clue.

    https://www.papahanaumokuakea.gov/visit/
    Indeed.
    AI Overview
    Limestone islands capping or sitting over older
    volcanic structures form when sunken or dormant volcanic foundations
    are overlain by coral reefs and subsequently uplifted by tectonic
    movements.
    Prominent Examples
    The Rock Islands (Palau): These famous
    raised coral limestone islands rest on top of an older
    Eocene-to-Oligocene volcanic arc foundation belonging to the
    Kyushu–Palau Ridge.
    Efate (Vanuatu): This island features a distinct
    interior volcanic core—evidenced by black sand beaches—surrounded and capped by raised coastal limestone formations.
    Antigua (Caribbean): The
    southwestern portion of the island consists of a rugged, mountainous
    volcanic basement (the Basal Volcanic Suite), while the northeastern
    and central regions transition into extensive Oligocene limestone
    formations like the Antigua Formation.
    Santo and Malekula (Vanuatu):
    Part of Vanuatu's chain of major uplifted islands, these display
    extensive ancient coral and limestone layers raised above older
    submarine volcanic foundations.
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 12:43:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/3/2026 12:21 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 09:04:02 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is
    made of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands will
    have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?


    Um...because coral attaches to and grows on them.

    But they don't "become" coral, they only have it attached, >
    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture2.jpg

    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture31.jpg


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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,sci.environment,sci.geo.geology on Thu Sep 3 11:14:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 12:43:51 -0400
    Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 12:21 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 09:04:02 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is
    made of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands will
    have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?


    Um...because coral attaches to and grows on them.

    But they don't "become" coral, they only have it attached, >
    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture2.jpg

    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture31.jpg



    Cindy's question was inane and indicative of her need to lead a subject
    she is clueless on nowhere.

    The answer was/is not:

    "In a few million years, these islands will have eroded down to tiny
    coral atolls in the middle of nowhere."

    Erosion is a sacrificial process, coral formation however is accretive
    in nature.

    It is possible for a limestone bed to be overflowed by lava and become a metamorphic unconformity however, those are fun to look for.

    We call them...Marble!

    https://volcano.oregonstate.edu/rock-lesson-works

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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 15:19:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/3/2026 10:48 AM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>>>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very
    busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.
    >
    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that look
    like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks up
    their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at the
    state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out there.
    There's also a creek nearby where as long as you're a half, or even a
    quarter mile from a road access, you won't see a single other person.
    That meant me and my friends didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid
    September, when we're not so busy with other commitments, there will
    be bathwater warm, clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a not
    overly hot air temperature, and it should be that way for several
    weeks. Maybe we'll even hike down to the place we called Sandy Beach.
    Many, many naked camping trips there over the years. We used to be
    able to get Jeeps down there, and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe
    blackberries in September and October. They are right at home,
    growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9
    https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.

    I am "like Johnny Appleseed with those berries." I call it, "Guerilla gardening." I plant them without asking permission. I do respect the
    patents, but the varieties I plant are off patent (Prime Jim and Prime
    Jan).>
    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?

    I also planted black raspberries out there. I planted them years ago,
    and I thought they had died. We found them thriving there this May. I
    also planted a tayberry in May, and we haven't been back since then. https://www.diy.com/departments/black-raspberry-black-jewel-plant-in-a-1-7l-pot-grow-your-own-fruit/5056214041426_BQ.prd
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 4 06:33:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 15:19:43 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am "like Johnny Appleseed with those berries." I call it, "Guerilla >gardening." I plant them without asking permission. I do respect the >patents, but the varieties I plant are off patent (Prime Jim and Prime
    Jan).
    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?

    I also planted black raspberries out there. I planted them years ago,
    and I thought they had died. We found them thriving there this May. I
    also planted a tayberry in May, and we haven't been back since then.

    8 sentences, 8 times "I". Typical narcissist.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 20:36:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 9/3/2026 12:21 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 09:04:02 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is
    made of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands will
    have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?


    Um...because coral attaches to and grows on them.

    But they don't "become" coral, they only have it attached, >
    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture2.jpg

    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture31.jpg



    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that the island
    I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and not a very long time
    at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting incensed at
    what is and what will be is a natural process of rfc.

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/xWurpCS6SrZ2xaj66

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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 4 06:41:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 20:36:43 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 9/3/2026 12:21 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 09:04:02 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is
    made of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands will
    have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?

    Um...because coral attaches to and grows on them.

    But they don't "become" coral, they only have it attached, >
    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture2.jpg

    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture31.jpg

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that the island
    I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and not a very long time >at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting incensed at >what is and what will be is a natural process of rfc.

    Getting incensed is trending, especially with the kids.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 14:59:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 15:19:43 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 10:48 AM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>>>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been
    very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.
    >
    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that
    look like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have
    sticks up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent,
    even at the state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their
    kind out there. There's also a creek nearby where as long as
    you're a half, or even a quarter mile from a road access, you
    won't see a single other person. That meant me and my friends
    didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September, when we're not so
    busy with other commitments, there will be bathwater warm, clear
    as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a not overly hot air
    temperature, and it should be that way for several weeks. Maybe
    we'll even hike down to the place we called Sandy Beach. Many,
    many naked camping trips there over the years. We used to be able
    to get Jeeps down there, and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe
    blackberries in September and October. They are right at home,
    growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9
    https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.

    I am "like Johnny Appleseed with those berries." I call it, "Guerilla gardening." I plant them without asking permission. I do respect the patents, but the varieties I plant are off patent (Prime Jim and
    Prime Jan).>
    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?

    I also planted black raspberries out there. I planted them years ago,
    and I thought they had died. We found them thriving there this May. I
    also planted a tayberry in May, and we haven't been back since then. https://www.diy.com/departments/black-raspberry-black-jewel-plant-in-a-1-7l-pot-grow-your-own-fruit/5056214041426_BQ.prd


    Tayberries eh?

    https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Tayberries_12376.php

    Never heard of them, but they look and sound luscious.

    https://preview.redd.it/my-tayberry-plants-have-been-outdoing-themselves-this-year-v0-yjzdwwme93771.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3932878843877bb9a0860f25c1f5b4ee3c7ef36e

    "Tayberries are a small aggregate fruit that grows up to 4 centimeters
    in length and thrives on long, thorny canes. They have an elongated
    form with a solid core reminiscent of blackberries, complemented by
    finer individual drupelets similar to raspberries. Tayberries
    transition from the bright red hue of a raspberry to a deep, vibrant
    red-purple as they reach full ripeness. They have a glossy sheen, yet
    upon closer inspection, reveal a slightly bumpy and textured feel due
    to the clustering of numerous small drupelets. These drupelets are
    delicately bound by very fine, almost imperceptible hairs and encase
    seeds within. The fragile nature of Tayberries makes them susceptible
    to bruising or damage with rough handling. They emit a richly aromatic fragrance that is sweet and floral, underscored by deep, earthy
    undertones, intensifying as the fruit reaches peak ripeness. The flavor
    profile of Tayberries is a fusion of the sweet, slightly tart notes of raspberries, balanced with the richness of blackberries."





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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,sci.geo.geology,hawaii on Thu Sep 3 15:03:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 20:36:43 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 9/3/2026 12:21 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 09:04:02 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is
    made of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands
    will have eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of
    nowhere.

    They're made of igneous rock. Why should they become coral when
    they erode?


    Um...because coral attaches to and grows on them.

    But they don't "become" coral, they only have it attached, >
    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture2.jpg

    https://bermudageology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/picture31.jpg



    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that the
    island I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and not a
    very long time at that.

    Erosion and subsidence, check.

    "General Rate: Most of Oahu generally sinks at a baseline rate of about
    0.6 millimeters per year.
    Erosion:
    Rainfall and ocean waves wear down the landmasses over long periods. As
    a consensus on Reddit notes, older islands to the west shrink and
    eventually submerge entirely into seamounts.

    Coral is just a part of the natural process.
    Getting incensed at what is and what will be is a natural process of
    rfc.

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/xWurpCS6SrZ2xaj66


    I think it is time for this to be trending now - the coup de grace for
    RFC control freaks.


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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 4 04:57:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> posted:

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been very
    busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that look
    like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks up
    their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at the
    state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out there. There's also a creek nearby where as long as you're a half, or even a quarter mile from a road access, you won't see a single other person.
    That meant me and my friends didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September, when we're not so busy with other commitments, there will
    be bathwater warm, clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a not overly hot air temperature, and it should be that way for several
    weeks. Maybe we'll even hike down to the place we called Sandy Beach.
    Many, many naked camping trips there over the years. We used to be
    able to get Jeeps down there, and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at home,
    growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9 https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.

    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?


    I surely loved that cartoon when I was a wee lad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTH_jzowgnc


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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 3 23:04:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Fri, 04 Sep 2026 04:57:59 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> posted:

    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been
    very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that
    look like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have
    sticks up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a
    tent, even at the state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want
    their kind out there. There's also a creek nearby where as long
    as you're a half, or even a quarter mile from a road access, you
    won't see a single other person. That meant me and my friends
    didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September, when we're not
    so busy with other commitments, there will be bathwater warm,
    clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a not overly hot air temperature, and it should be that way for several weeks. Maybe
    we'll even hike down to the place we called Sandy Beach. Many,
    many naked camping trips there over the years. We used to be able
    to get Jeeps down there, and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be
    ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at
    home, growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9 https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.

    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?


    I surely loved that cartoon when I was a wee lad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTH_jzowgnc


    https://youtu.be/LXCwlO2jnYU

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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 4 18:35:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/3/2026 3:59 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 15:19:43 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 10:48 AM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>>>>>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been
    very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.
    >
    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that
    look like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have
    sticks up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent,
    even at the state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their
    kind out there. There's also a creek nearby where as long as
    you're a half, or even a quarter mile from a road access, you
    won't see a single other person. That meant me and my friends
    didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September, when we're not so
    busy with other commitments, there will be bathwater warm, clear
    as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a not overly hot air
    temperature, and it should be that way for several weeks. Maybe
    we'll even hike down to the place we called Sandy Beach. Many,
    many naked camping trips there over the years. We used to be able
    to get Jeeps down there, and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe
    blackberries in September and October. They are right at home,
    growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9
    https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.
    >
    I am "like Johnny Appleseed with those berries." I call it, "Guerilla
    gardening." I plant them without asking permission. I do respect the
    patents, but the varieties I plant are off patent (Prime Jim and
    Prime Jan).>
    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?
    >
    I also planted black raspberries out there. I planted them years ago,
    and I thought they had died. We found them thriving there this May. I
    also planted a tayberry in May, and we haven't been back since then.
    https://www.diy.com/departments/black-raspberry-black-jewel-plant-in-a-1-7l-pot-grow-your-own-fruit/5056214041426_BQ.prd


    Tayberries eh?

    https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Tayberries_12376.php

    Never heard of them, but they look and sound luscious.

    https://preview.redd.it/my-tayberry-plants-have-been-outdoing-themselves-this-year-v0-yjzdwwme93771.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3932878843877bb9a0860f25c1f5b4ee3c7ef36e

    "Tayberries are a small aggregate fruit that grows up to 4 centimeters
    in length and thrives on long, thorny canes. They have an elongated
    form with a solid core reminiscent of blackberries, complemented by
    finer individual drupelets similar to raspberries. Tayberries
    transition from the bright red hue of a raspberry to a deep, vibrant red-purple as they reach full ripeness. They have a glossy sheen, yet
    upon closer inspection, reveal a slightly bumpy and textured feel due
    to the clustering of numerous small drupelets. These drupelets are
    delicately bound by very fine, almost imperceptible hairs and encase
    seeds within. The fragile nature of Tayberries makes them susceptible
    to bruising or damage with rough handling. They emit a richly aromatic fragrance that is sweet and floral, underscored by deep, earthy
    undertones, intensifying as the fruit reaches peak ripeness. The flavor profile of Tayberries is a fusion of the sweet, slightly tart notes of raspberries, balanced with the richness of blackberries."

    I planted it on top, where it could trail down one of the walls. My big
    job next time we go there is cutting back all of the wild blackberry
    plants, or as many as I can, because there are hundreds.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 5 02:03:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that the island
    I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and not a very long time at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting incensed at what is and what will be is a natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic
    processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.
    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral will
    form, if coral still exists. By that time, other coral atolls will
    probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders. Evolution!
    Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when people buy in.
    Wait! What will happen when the comet collides with Earth? Ain't
    speculation great?
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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 5 05:16:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that the island I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and not a very long time at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting incensed at what is and what will be is a natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic
    processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.
    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral will
    form, if coral still exists. By that time, other coral atolls will
    probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders. Evolution!
    Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when people buy in.
    Wait! What will happen when the comet collides with Earth? Ain't
    speculation great?

    I don't know what all the mystery is. All of the islands and atolls in the Hawaiian
    archipelago are surrounded with coral reefs. That's what happens when you get parts
    of the Pacific where the ocean bottom is exposed to sunlight. One can create artificial reefs by sinking ships in suitable locations. These islands may have started out as lava rock but in a few million years, these exposed seamounts will
    have eroded/sunken down to sandy bits of land poking out of the sea. The sand will
    come from the coral that has broken down into fine particles. Even if a great asteroid collides with the Earth the process of coral propagation and breakdown will occur. That's comforting to know.






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  • From Graham@g.stereo@shaw.ca to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 5 06:59:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-04 8:03 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that the island >> I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and not a very long time >> at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting incensed at
    what is and what will be is a natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic
    processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.
    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral will
    form, if coral still exists. By that time, other coral atolls will
    probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders. Evolution!
    Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when people buy in.
    Wait! What will happen when the comet collides with Earth? Ain't
    speculation great?

    Charles Darwin published a paper on the formation of coral atols
    in the QJGS (Quarterly Journal Of The Geological Society of London).
    Worth a read.
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,sci.geo.geology,sci.environment on Sat Sep 5 11:42:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 5 Sep 2026 02:03:43 GMT
    Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that
    the island I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and
    not a very long time at that. Coral is just a part of the natural
    process. Getting incensed at what is and what will be is a natural
    process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic
    processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.
    Actually they can and do track the migration of known "hot spots".
    "How the Chain FormsFixed Hotspot:
    A deep mantle plume of hot magma
    stays in a relatively fixed position beneath the Earth's crust.
    Moving
    Tectonic Plate: The Pacific Plate moves northwestward over this
    stationary heat source at a rate of roughly 7 to 9 centimeters per
    year.
    Island
    Creation: As the plate shifts, old volcanoes are carried away from the
    heat and become dormant, while new volcanoes form over the hotspot
    (such as the active volcanoes on the Big Island and the rising
    submarine volcano Lōʻihi)"
    Yellowstone Park for example has its hot spot moving to the northeast
    and away from the park proper.
    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral will
    form, if coral still exists.
    Unless the water temp alters drastically it will.
    By that time, other coral atolls will
    probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders.
    Evolution! Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when people
    buy in. Wait! What will happen when the comet collides with Earth?
    Ain't speculation great?
    K/t boundary layer.
    https://www.geowyo.com/k-t-boundary.html
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 5 09:19:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 18:35:22 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 3:59 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 15:19:43 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 10:48 AM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>>>>>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been
    very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.
    >
    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that
    look like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have
    sticks up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a
    tent, even at the state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't
    want their kind out there. There's also a creek nearby where as
    long as you're a half, or even a quarter mile from a road
    access, you won't see a single other person. That meant me and
    my friends didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September, when
    we're not so busy with other commitments, there will be
    bathwater warm, clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a
    not overly hot air temperature, and it should be that way for
    several weeks. Maybe we'll even hike down to the place we called
    Sandy Beach. Many, many naked camping trips there over the
    years. We used to be able to get Jeeps down there, and we had
    elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be
    ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at
    home, growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9
    https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.
    >
    I am "like Johnny Appleseed with those berries." I call it,
    "Guerilla gardening." I plant them without asking permission. I do
    respect the patents, but the varieties I plant are off patent
    (Prime Jim and Prime Jan).>
    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?
    >
    I also planted black raspberries out there. I planted them years
    ago, and I thought they had died. We found them thriving there
    this May. I also planted a tayberry in May, and we haven't been
    back since then.
    https://www.diy.com/departments/black-raspberry-black-jewel-plant-in-a-1-7l-pot-grow-your-own-fruit/5056214041426_BQ.prd

    Tayberries eh?

    https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Tayberries_12376.php

    Never heard of them, but they look and sound luscious.

    https://preview.redd.it/my-tayberry-plants-have-been-outdoing-themselves-this-year-v0-yjzdwwme93771.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3932878843877bb9a0860f25c1f5b4ee3c7ef36e

    "Tayberries are a small aggregate fruit that grows up to 4
    centimeters in length and thrives on long, thorny canes. They have
    an elongated form with a solid core reminiscent of blackberries, complemented by finer individual drupelets similar to raspberries. Tayberries transition from the bright red hue of a raspberry to a
    deep, vibrant red-purple as they reach full ripeness. They have a
    glossy sheen, yet upon closer inspection, reveal a slightly bumpy
    and textured feel due to the clustering of numerous small
    drupelets. These drupelets are delicately bound by very fine,
    almost imperceptible hairs and encase seeds within. The fragile
    nature of Tayberries makes them susceptible to bruising or damage
    with rough handling. They emit a richly aromatic fragrance that is
    sweet and floral, underscored by deep, earthy undertones,
    intensifying as the fruit reaches peak ripeness. The flavor profile
    of Tayberries is a fusion of the sweet, slightly tart notes of
    raspberries, balanced with the richness of blackberries."

    I planted it on top, where it could trail down one of the walls. My
    big job next time we go there is cutting back all of the wild
    blackberry plants, or as many as I can, because there are hundreds.


    They don't fruit as well?

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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,sci.environment,sci.geo.geology on Sat Sep 5 12:01:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sat, 05 Sep 2026 05:16:02 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that
    the island I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and
    not a very long time at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting incensed at what is and what will be is a
    natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.
    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral
    will form, if coral still exists. By that time, other coral atolls
    will probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders. Evolution! Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when
    people buy in. Wait! What will happen when the comet collides with
    Earth? Ain't speculation great?

    I don't know what all the mystery is. All of the islands and atolls
    in the Hawaiian archipelago are surrounded with coral reefs. That's
    what happens when you get parts of the Pacific where the ocean bottom
    is exposed to sunlight. One can create artificial reefs by sinking
    ships in suitable locations. These islands may have started out as
    lava rock but in a few million years, these exposed seamounts will
    have eroded/sunken down to sandy bits of land poking out of the sea.
    The sand will come from the coral that has broken down into fine
    particles. Even if a great asteroid collides with the Earth the
    process of coral propagation and breakdown will occur. That's
    comforting to know.

    Exactly.

    Unless...we get some polar relocation in which case Hawaii might end up
    in Tierra del Fuego's old spot, who can say?

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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 5 13:07:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Graham wrote on 9/5/2026 7:59 AM:
    On 2026-09-04 8:03 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that the
    island
    I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and not a very
    long time
    at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting
    incensed at
    what is and what will be is a natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic
    processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not fact.
    Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.
    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral will
    form, if coral still exists. By that time, other coral atolls will
    probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders. Evolution!
    Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when people buy in.
    Wait! What will happen when the comet collides with Earth? Ain't
    speculation great?

    Charles Darwin published a paper on the formation of coral atols
    in the QJGS (Quarterly Journal Of The Geological Society of London).
    Worth a read.

    Uncle Tojo already knows that.


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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking,soc.culture.hawaii,sci.environment on Sat Sep 5 18:39:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> posted:

    On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 03:12:33 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been
    very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.

    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that
    look like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have sticks
    up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a tent, even at
    the state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't want their kind out
    there. There's also a creek nearby where as long as you're a half,
    or even a quarter mile from a road access, you won't see a single
    other person. That meant me and my friends didn't have to wear
    swimsuits. By mid September, when we're not so busy with other commitments, there will be bathwater warm, clear as tap water
    swimmin' holes, even with a not overly hot air temperature, and it
    should be that way for several weeks. Maybe we'll even hike down to
    the place we called Sandy Beach. Many, many naked camping trips
    there over the years. We used to be able to get Jeeps down there,
    and we had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at home,
    growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9 https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    That's a strange local eco-system for sure. This entire state is made
    of layers of rock. In a few million years, these islands will have
    eroded down to tiny coral atolls in the middle of nowhere.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/MhpcCc1cBxTYef2m9

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5nWFzEmekm7qNXG9


    Far western Bermuda in the making...

    https://bermudageology.com/the-bermuda-volcanic-seamount/

    https://assets.science.nasa.gov/dynamicimage/assets/science/esd/eo/images/imagerecords/7000/7397/bermuda_l7_1999226.jpg?w=540&h=405&fit=crop&crop=faces%2Cfocalpoint


    It occurs to me that a lot of folks on the mainland aren't familiar with coral reefs. It's like coral reefs might as well be located on the planet Mars. I suppose that's only natural. I had a client that got a Darwin award. Not the famous one but a lesser known one.

    https://coralreefs.org/awards-honors-fellowships/darwin-medal/







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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking,sci.geo.geology,sci.environment on Sun Sep 6 07:01:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> posted:

    On 5 Sep 2026 02:03:43 GMT
    Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that
    the island I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and
    not a very long time at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting incensed at what is and what will be is a natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.

    Actually they can and do track the migration of known "hot spots".

    "How the Chain FormsFixed Hotspot:

    A deep mantle plume of hot magma
    stays in a relatively fixed position beneath the Earth's crust.

    Moving
    Tectonic Plate: The Pacific Plate moves northwestward over this
    stationary heat source at a rate of roughly 7 to 9 centimeters per
    year.

    Island
    Creation: As the plate shifts, old volcanoes are carried away from the
    heat and become dormant, while new volcanoes form over the hotspot
    (such as the active volcanoes on the Big Island and the rising
    submarine volcano Lōʻihi)"

    Yellowstone Park for example has its hot spot moving to the northeast
    and away from the park proper.


    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral will
    form, if coral still exists.

    Unless the water temp alters drastically it will.

    By that time, other coral atolls will
    probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders.
    Evolution! Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when people
    buy in. Wait! What will happen when the comet collides with Earth?
    Ain't speculation great?

    K/t boundary layer.

    https://www.geowyo.com/k-t-boundary.html


    The Hawaiian island chain is a remarkable geological feature. The chain runs about 1,500 miles in length from the youngest island, the big island, to the oldest, Kure Atoll. By going up the chain, you can witness the evolution of
    the islands from a big hot spot in the middle of the Pacific to lonely atolls that's mostly sand and coral. It's a graphical/geological timeline with a span of 28 million years.

    There is another island that's forming under the sea off the shore of the big island. It might pop its little peak above the sea in 100,000 years or so. The newest island/seamount in the chain is called Kamaʻehuakanaloa, but my guess is
    that when it makes its appearance, there won't be anyone around to say its name.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama%CA%BBehuakanaloa_Seamount






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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking,sci.environment,sci.geo.geology on Sun Sep 6 08:12:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> posted:

    On Sat, 05 Sep 2026 05:16:02 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that
    the island I live on will, in time, be completely worn away - and
    not a very long time at that. Coral is just a part of the natural process. Getting incensed at what is and what will be is a
    natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.
    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral
    will form, if coral still exists. By that time, other coral atolls
    will probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders. Evolution! Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when
    people buy in. Wait! What will happen when the comet collides with
    Earth? Ain't speculation great?

    I don't know what all the mystery is. All of the islands and atolls
    in the Hawaiian archipelago are surrounded with coral reefs. That's
    what happens when you get parts of the Pacific where the ocean bottom
    is exposed to sunlight. One can create artificial reefs by sinking
    ships in suitable locations. These islands may have started out as
    lava rock but in a few million years, these exposed seamounts will
    have eroded/sunken down to sandy bits of land poking out of the sea.
    The sand will come from the coral that has broken down into fine
    particles. Even if a great asteroid collides with the Earth the
    process of coral propagation and breakdown will occur. That's
    comforting to know.

    Exactly.

    Unless...we get some polar relocation in which case Hawaii might end up
    in Tierra del Fuego's old spot, who can say?


    That's certainly true. The Hawaiian archipelago does do a Northward change in direction. We're not sure how that happened. At that point, it's all underwater.
    That part is called the Emperor Seamount because it's named after the emperors of Japan.






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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking,alt.punk on Sun Sep 6 08:41:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/5/2026 10:19 AM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 18:35:22 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 3:59 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 15:19:43 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 10:48 AM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/ >>>>>>>>

    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been
    very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.
    >
    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that
    look like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have
    sticks up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a
    tent, even at the state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't
    want their kind out there. There's also a creek nearby where as
    long as you're a half, or even a quarter mile from a road
    access, you won't see a single other person. That meant me and
    my friends didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September, when
    we're not so busy with other commitments, there will be
    bathwater warm, clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a
    not overly hot air temperature, and it should be that way for
    several weeks. Maybe we'll even hike down to the place we called
    Sandy Beach. Many, many naked camping trips there over the
    years. We used to be able to get Jeeps down there, and we had
    elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be
    ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at
    home, growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9
    https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.
    >
    I am "like Johnny Appleseed with those berries." I call it,
    "Guerilla gardening." I plant them without asking permission. I do
    respect the patents, but the varieties I plant are off patent
    (Prime Jim and Prime Jan).>
    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?
    >
    I also planted black raspberries out there. I planted them years
    ago, and I thought they had died. We found them thriving there
    this May. I also planted a tayberry in May, and we haven't been
    back since then.
    https://www.diy.com/departments/black-raspberry-black-jewel-plant-in-a-1-7l-pot-grow-your-own-fruit/5056214041426_BQ.prd

    Tayberries eh?

    https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Tayberries_12376.php

    Never heard of them, but they look and sound luscious.

    https://preview.redd.it/my-tayberry-plants-have-been-outdoing-themselves-this-year-v0-yjzdwwme93771.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3932878843877bb9a0860f25c1f5b4ee3c7ef36e

    "Tayberries are a small aggregate fruit that grows up to 4
    centimeters in length and thrives on long, thorny canes. They have
    an elongated form with a solid core reminiscent of blackberries,
    complemented by finer individual drupelets similar to raspberries.
    Tayberries transition from the bright red hue of a raspberry to a
    deep, vibrant red-purple as they reach full ripeness. They have a
    glossy sheen, yet upon closer inspection, reveal a slightly bumpy
    and textured feel due to the clustering of numerous small
    drupelets. These drupelets are delicately bound by very fine,
    almost imperceptible hairs and encase seeds within. The fragile
    nature of Tayberries makes them susceptible to bruising or damage
    with rough handling. They emit a richly aromatic fragrance that is
    sweet and floral, underscored by deep, earthy undertones,
    intensifying as the fruit reaches peak ripeness. The flavor profile
    of Tayberries is a fusion of the sweet, slightly tart notes of
    raspberries, balanced with the richness of blackberries."
    >
    I planted it on top, where it could trail down one of the walls. My
    big job next time we go there is cutting back all of the wild
    blackberry plants, or as many as I can, because there are hundreds.


    They don't fruit as well?

    Lower quality fruit, and only on floricanes. The varieties I've planted
    are Prime Jim and Prime Jan. I guy I gave a few to made a video for
    YouTube.
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x5es5TcBTxI

    Watch this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH5uRXYR6EY

    I grow Prime Jan, Prime Jim, Traveler, Freedom, Black Magic and
    Babycakes. Black Magic is expensive. It's a product of U Ark, but bred specifically for Gurney's. It's the highest quality thorny one. If you
    live anywhere that has deer, you can't grow thornless because the deer
    will eat them to the ground.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,sci.geo.geology,sci.environment on Sun Sep 6 09:38:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sun, 06 Sep 2026 07:01:50 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> posted:

    On 5 Sep 2026 02:03:43 GMT
    Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was that
    the island I live on will, in time, be completely worn away -
    and not a very long time at that. Coral is just a part of the
    natural process. Getting incensed at what is and what will be
    is a natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when volcanic processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas are not
    fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.

    Actually they can and do track the migration of known "hot spots".

    "How the Chain FormsFixed Hotspot:

    A deep mantle plume of hot magma
    stays in a relatively fixed position beneath the Earth's crust.

    Moving
    Tectonic Plate: The Pacific Plate moves northwestward over this
    stationary heat source at a rate of roughly 7 to 9 centimeters per
    year.

    Island
    Creation: As the plate shifts, old volcanoes are carried away from
    the heat and become dormant, while new volcanoes form over the
    hotspot (such as the active volcanoes on the Big Island and the
    rising submarine volcano Lōʻihi)"

    Yellowstone Park for example has its hot spot moving to the
    northeast and away from the park proper.


    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral
    will form, if coral still exists.

    Unless the water temp alters drastically it will.

    By that time, other coral atolls will
    probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders.
    Evolution! Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's fun when
    people buy in. Wait! What will happen when the comet collides
    with Earth? Ain't speculation great?

    K/t boundary layer.

    https://www.geowyo.com/k-t-boundary.html


    The Hawaiian island chain is a remarkable geological feature. The
    chain runs about 1,500 miles in length from the youngest island, the
    big island, to the oldest, Kure Atoll. By going up the chain, you can
    witness the evolution of the islands from a big hot spot in the
    middle of the Pacific to lonely atolls that's mostly sand and coral.
    It's a graphical/geological timeline with a span of 28 million years.

    There is another island that's forming under the sea off the shore of
    the big island. It might pop its little peak above the sea in 100,000
    years or so. The newest island/seamount in the chain is called Kamaʻehuakanaloa, but my guess is that when it makes its appearance,
    there won't be anyone around to say its name.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama%CA%BBehuakanaloa_Seamount
    Very cool a "hotspot" newcomer. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1464343X16300826
    Kyte (1998), who studied samples from Deep Sea Drilling Project near
    Hawaii, found confirmation for an impact meteorite in the K/T
    sediments. https://www.facebook.com/NationalMuseumsScotland/videos/this-rock-is-a-record-of-the-end-of-non-avian-dinosaurs-%EF%B8%8Fits-from-the-cretaceous/967367726053795/
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,sci.environment,sci.geo.geology on Sun Sep 6 09:40:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sun, 06 Sep 2026 08:12:36 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> posted:

    On Sat, 05 Sep 2026 05:16:02 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:

    On 2026-09-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    As usual, you old fogies have missed my point. My point was
    that the island I live on will, in time, be completely worn
    away - and not a very long time at that. Coral is just a part
    of the natural process. Getting incensed at what is and what
    will be is a natural process of rfc.

    Old fogey here.
    Not one geologist or "planet scientist" has any idea when
    volcanic processes will stop forming any of Hawaii. Their ideas
    are not fact. Prognostication is fun, but it's not fact.
    If Hawaii sinks beneath the sea, while at a perfect level, coral
    will form, if coral still exists. By that time, other coral
    atolls will probably cease to have existed. Coral may look like spiders. Evolution! Who knows? Prognosticators don't, but it's
    fun when people buy in. Wait! What will happen when the comet
    collides with Earth? Ain't speculation great?

    I don't know what all the mystery is. All of the islands and
    atolls in the Hawaiian archipelago are surrounded with coral
    reefs. That's what happens when you get parts of the Pacific
    where the ocean bottom is exposed to sunlight. One can create
    artificial reefs by sinking ships in suitable locations. These
    islands may have started out as lava rock but in a few million
    years, these exposed seamounts will have eroded/sunken down to
    sandy bits of land poking out of the sea. The sand will come from
    the coral that has broken down into fine particles. Even if a
    great asteroid collides with the Earth the process of coral
    propagation and breakdown will occur. That's comforting to know.

    Exactly.

    Unless...we get some polar relocation in which case Hawaii might
    end up in Tierra del Fuego's old spot, who can say?


    That's certainly true. The Hawaiian archipelago does do a Northward
    change in direction. We're not sure how that happened. At that point,
    it's all underwater. That part is called the Emperor Seamount because
    it's named after the emperors of Japan.
    That context is new to me, thx!
    It's wonderful that you study and know your rock's lithographic
    provenance. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/plate-loss-gave-chain-pacific-islands-and-seamounts-bend
    The disappearance of a tectonic plate into Earth’s interior may be responsible for the distinctive bend in the chain of underwater mountains and islands that includes the Hawaiian archipelago.
    A reconstruction of the mantle flowing under the Pacific Ocean about 50
    million years ago suggests that the submergence of the Izanagi Plate
    near East Asia reversed the flow’s direction. This mantle U-turn could
    have immobilized the mantle-dwelling plume of magma that built the
    mountain ranges, the researchers report online March 24 in Geophysical
    Research Letters. The abrupt stop probably caused the roughly
    120-degree kink in the Hawaiian-Emperor seamount chain as Earth’s crust
    moved westward over the plume, they conclude.
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,alt.punk on Sun Sep 6 11:40:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 08:41:22 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/5/2026 10:19 AM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 18:35:22 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 3:59 PM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 15:19:43 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/3/2026 10:48 AM, Damon Cloche wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 21:29:09 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/2/2026 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/50390787592/in/photostream/


    That's a pretty awesome rock formation. Mother nature has been >>>>>>> very busy in the area - several hundred million years ago.
    >
    That the amazing thing, David. Those are layers of sawdust that
    look like sandstone formations. Most of these old folks have
    sticks up their asses, and couldn't appreciate sleeping in a
    tent, even at the state park. Heck, I'm glad though. I don't
    want their kind out there. There's also a creek nearby where as
    long as you're a half, or even a quarter mile from a road
    access, you won't see a single other person. That meant me and
    my friends didn't have to wear swimsuits. By mid September,
    when we're not so busy with other commitments, there will be
    bathwater warm, clear as tap water swimmin' holes, even with a
    not overly hot air temperature, and it should be that way for
    several weeks. Maybe we'll even hike down to the place we
    called Sandy Beach. Many, many naked camping trips there over
    the years. We used to be able to get Jeeps down there, and we
    had elaborate meals.

    The Sawdust Pile is amazing, and I've also gotten started many
    blackberry plants that are primocane bearing, so there will be
    ripe blackberries in September and October. They are right at
    home, growing in the sawdust.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/iF6F28TC7STWjyyo9
    https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/crop-production/primocane-fruiting-blackberries/


    You're like Johnny Appleseed with those berries.
    >
    I am "like Johnny Appleseed with those berries." I call it,
    "Guerilla gardening." I plant them without asking permission. I
    do respect the patents, but the varieties I plant are off patent
    (Prime Jim and Prime Jan).>
    I wonder if huckleberries or raspberries would take too?
    >
    I also planted black raspberries out there. I planted them years
    ago, and I thought they had died. We found them thriving there
    this May. I also planted a tayberry in May, and we haven't been
    back since then.
    https://www.diy.com/departments/black-raspberry-black-jewel-plant-in-a-1-7l-pot-grow-your-own-fruit/5056214041426_BQ.prd


    Tayberries eh?

    https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Tayberries_12376.php

    Never heard of them, but they look and sound luscious.

    https://preview.redd.it/my-tayberry-plants-have-been-outdoing-themselves-this-year-v0-yjzdwwme93771.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3932878843877bb9a0860f25c1f5b4ee3c7ef36e

    "Tayberries are a small aggregate fruit that grows up to 4
    centimeters in length and thrives on long, thorny canes. They have
    an elongated form with a solid core reminiscent of blackberries,
    complemented by finer individual drupelets similar to raspberries.
    Tayberries transition from the bright red hue of a raspberry to a
    deep, vibrant red-purple as they reach full ripeness. They have a
    glossy sheen, yet upon closer inspection, reveal a slightly bumpy
    and textured feel due to the clustering of numerous small
    drupelets. These drupelets are delicately bound by very fine,
    almost imperceptible hairs and encase seeds within. The fragile
    nature of Tayberries makes them susceptible to bruising or damage
    with rough handling. They emit a richly aromatic fragrance that is
    sweet and floral, underscored by deep, earthy undertones,
    intensifying as the fruit reaches peak ripeness. The flavor
    profile of Tayberries is a fusion of the sweet, slightly tart
    notes of raspberries, balanced with the richness of blackberries."
    >
    I planted it on top, where it could trail down one of the walls. My
    big job next time we go there is cutting back all of the wild
    blackberry plants, or as many as I can, because there are hundreds.


    They don't fruit as well?

    Lower quality fruit, and only on floricanes. The varieties I've
    planted are Prime Jim and Prime Jan. I guy I gave a few to made a
    video for YouTube.
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x5es5TcBTxI

    That was May, and now?


    Watch this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH5uRXYR6EY

    I grow Prime Jan, Prime Jim, Traveler, Freedom, Black Magic and
    Babycakes. Black Magic is expensive. It's a product of U Ark, but
    bred specifically for Gurney's. It's the highest quality thorny one.
    If you live anywhere that has deer, you can't grow thornless because
    the deer will eat them to the ground.


    The pupose of the thorns defined, nice.

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