• Trump's Folly: Honda Posts First ever Loss Due to EV investments

    From Brendan Thomas Carr, FCC Chairman@fcc@fcc.biz to alt.politics.immigration,rec.food.cooking,alt.home.repair,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,or.politics on Thu Sep 3 02:52:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Phil Da' Lick wrote:

    Hahahaha!
    Told you so!

    EV's are Trump's ideological enemy. We don't know why we hate them, we
    just know we need to or Trump will be mad.

    I like my gas guzzling SUV because thanks to Trump, it costs $540 to fill
    up and I know that Exxon, Gulf and Shell need my money so they can stop the lefties and their wild claims about science and Obama's big global warming lie.


    Trump should ban electric cars, wind power, sewage treatment and talk of global warming, but only after he hands the oil and coal companies another 7$70 billion of your hard earned money for their subsidies.


    Pretty soon everybody will be burning coal just like in the good old days. and gas powered cars are the future, even in shithole red states where the roads resemble a goat trail in the Andes mountains.

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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,sci.environment,alt.global-warming on Thu Sep 3 09:55:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 02:52:33 -0000 (UTC)
    "Brendan Thomas Carr, FCC Chairman" <fcc@fcc.biz> wrote:

    Pretty soon everybody will be burning coal just like in the good old
    days.

    400+ years of natural coal reserves have we = onward!

    AI Overview

    The United States has enough recoverable coal
    reserves to last roughly 400 to 600 years, depending on the specific
    government report and consumption rate used.

    Current Estimates

    400+Years: The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimated that total recoverable U.S. coal reserves would last about 422 years based on
    recent production levels.

    600+ Years: A report from the U.S. Geological
    Survey estimates that coal resources beneath federal public lands alone
    could supply the nation for at least 600 years at current consumption
    rates.

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  • From Jeremiah Jones@jj@j.j to rec.food.cooking,sci.environment,alt.global-warming on Fri Sep 4 12:45:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> wrote:

    Current Estimates

    400+Years: The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimated that total recoverable U.S. coal reserves would last about 422 years based on
    recent production levels.


    Meanwhile we have more than enough
    recoverable reserves of lead and
    arsenic to last thousands of years.
    Keep digging!
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to rec.food.cooking,sci.environment,alt.global-warming on Fri Sep 4 15:40:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Fri, 04 Sep 2026 12:45:06 -0700
    Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:

    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> wrote:

    Current Estimates

    400+Years: The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimated
    that total recoverable U.S. coal reserves would last about 422
    years based on recent production levels.


    Meanwhile we have more than enough
    recoverable reserves of lead and
    arsenic to last thousands of years.
    Keep digging!

    I like rice.

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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to sci.environment,alt.global-warming,rec.food.cooking,alt.home.repair on Fri Sep 4 16:44:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 16:14:53 -0400
    Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/4/2026 3:45 PM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> wrote:

    Current Estimates

    400+Years: The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimated
    that total recoverable U.S. coal reserves would last about 422
    years based on recent production levels.


    Meanwhile we have more than enough
    recoverable reserves of lead and
    arsenic to last thousands of years.
    Keep digging!

    Using coal can be good, but the emissions must be controlled too.
    But they are/were:
    AI Overview
    Clean coal scrubbers—officially known as flue gas
    desulfurization (FGD) systems—are pollution control devices that remove
    up to 99% of sulfur dioxide (SO₂) from power plant exhaust before it
    escapes into the atmosphere.
    How Scrubbers Work
    Wet Scrubbing: The most common method sprays a fine mist
    of limestone slurry (calcium carbonate and water) into the hot exhaust
    stream inside a large absorption tower.
    Chemical
    Reaction: The calcium in the limestone reacts with sulfur dioxide gas, neutralizing the harmful pollutant and turning it into a solid
    byproduct.
    Byproduct
    Conversion: This reaction creates calcium sulfate, or synthetic gypsum,
    which power plants frequently capture and sell to manufacturers to make
    drywall and other construction materials.
    Dry
    Scrubbing: Instead of a liquid slurry, dry systems inject a dry
    alkaline sorbent or a lime spray into the flue gas to capture
    pollutants as a dry powder, which is later collected by a filtration
    system.
    Respiratory conditions can kill
    Modern scrubbing technology had that all handled...before Obammy
    killed King Coal! https://countoncoal.org/2016/09/obama-kept-promise-83000-coal-jobs-lost-400-mines-shuttered/
    This Labor Day, America has 83,000 fewer coal jobs and 400 coal mines than it did when Barack Obama was elected in 2008, showing that the president has followed through on his pledge to “bankrupt” the coal industry.
    A 2015 study found the coal industry lost 50,000 jobs from 2008 to 2012 during Obama’s first term. During Obama’s second term, the industry employment in coal mining has fallen by another 33,300 jobs, 10,900 of which occurred in the last year alone, according to federal data. Currently, coal mining employs 69,460 Americans, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Much of the blame for the job losses is targeted at federal regulations aimed at preventing global warming, which caused coal power plants to go bankrupt, resulting in a sharp decline in the price of coal.
    “So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted,” Obama said during a 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle’s editorial board. Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton also pledged that “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.”
    Employment has fallen so drastically because coal production has fallen by 15 percent since 2008 as companies have been forced by environmental regulation to shut down 400 mines due to decreasing demand. Companies opened 103 new mines in the U.S. in 2013 while 271 coal mines were idled or shut down, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
    Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulations and cheap natural gas have devastating coal companies as well, even forcing Peabody Energy, the world’s largest coal company, to declare bankruptcy earlier this month. Other American coal companies have faced financial problems too. Arch Coal filed for bankruptcy as well in January and coal companies like Alliance Coal announced mass layoffs.
    As a result, many ex-coal miners are unemployed and Appalachian “coal country” has faced very real economic devastation as a result. The coal-producing areas of eastern Kentucky have an unemployment rate of 8 percent unemployment rates and parts of West Virginia have double-digit unemployment.
    Even Obama has recognized the economic devastation, and stated that opposition to his policies by coal miners and people in Appalachia is “perfectly legitimate,” during a December interview with National Public Radio. However, the situation for coal miners would likely get worse if Obama’s Clean Power Plan is fully implemented. The EIA predicts the plan would more than double the number of coal plants shutting down over the next five years. The shutdowns have a cascading effect, causing coal production to collapse by more than 30 percent over the next decade.
    The Obama administration responded by offering a mere $14.5 million in
    federal funding for programs to retrain out-of-work coal miners, after
    imposing regulations that greatly hampered the American coal industry.
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  • From Damon Cloche@b@ke.bread to sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.home.repair,rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 6 09:51:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sat, 05 Sep 2026 18:36:35 -0700
    Roger Rhino <not@my.home> wrote:
    Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/4/2026 3:45 PM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
    Damon Cloche <b@ke.bread> wrote:

    Current Estimates

    400+Years: The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimated
    that total recoverable U.S. coal reserves would last about 422
    years based on recent production levels.


    Meanwhile we have more than enough
    recoverable reserves of lead and
    arsenic to last thousands of years.
    Keep digging!

    Using coal can be good, but the emissions must be controlled too. Respiratory conditions can kill


    There's no such thing as clean coal.
    You're WRONG again, shitwit!
    AI Overview
    Anthracite is a significantly cleaner-burning coal
    than bituminous coal.
    Key Differences in Cleanliness
    Anthracite (Hard Coal):
    Contains 86% to
    97% fixed carbon and very low volatile matter. It produces almost no
    visible smoke, minimal soot, and lower sulfur dioxide emissions when
    burned.
    Bituminous (Soft Coal):
    Contains 60% to 80% carbon with much higher
    volatile impurities. Burning it creates thick, dark smoke, higher
    particulate matter, and more sulfur pollution.
    Why Anthracite is Cleaner
    Higher Purity:
    It has undergone greater
    metamorphic heat and pressure over time, squeezing out impurities and
    moisture.
    Smokeless Performance:
    Because it lacks heavy volatile gases,
    it burns with a short, clean blue flame rather than a smoky yellow
    flame.
    "Clean coal" plants still produce substantial amounts of sulfur
    dioxide, nitrogen oxides, particulate matter, and mercury.
    AI Overview
    A state-of-the-art "clean coal" plant (using
    ultra-supercritical combustion and advanced scrubbers) reduces
    traditional criteria air pollutants by 90% to 99%+ compared to older unmitigated plants...
    Controlled Air Pollutants (Reduced by 80%–99%)Modern facilities use
    Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR), Flue Gas Desulfurization (FGD)
    scrubbers, and fabric filters to capture nearly all of the primary
    toxic output:
    Particulate
    Matter (PM / Soot):
    Reduced by roughly 99.8%.
    Sulfur Dioxide (SO₂):
    Reduced by 95% to 98%.
    Nitrogen Oxides: Reduced by
    roughly 83% to 87%.
    Mercury and Trace Heavy Metals:
    Controlled via specialized sorbent injection and fabric filters by
    upwards of 90%.
    Not to mention that the CO2 emissions are quite a bit higher than other fossil fuels, even diesel.
    Good, we're in a position where historically our CO2 levels are rather
    on the low side and dropping: https://co2coalition.org/facts/140-million-year-trend-of-dangerously-decreasing-co2/
    For the last 140 million years, CO2 levels fell precipitously &
    steadily to within about 30 ppm of the 150 ppm “line of death” below
    which plants can’t survive. Both the relatively short-term data from
    ice cores and much longer-term data going back 140 million years
    (Berner 2001) show an alarming downward trend toward CO2 starvation.
    The release of carbon dioxide by the use of fossil fuels has allowed
    humanity to increase concentrations of this beneficial molecule, and
    perhaps avert an actual CO2-related climate apocalypse.
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