Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure
cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out
of me.
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-
Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-
Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out
of me.
On 2026-10-17 8:10 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-
Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-
Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck
out of me.
My parents had one when I was a kid but my mother was afraid to use it.
Some people swear by them.
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker.
jmcquown wrote :
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker.
You've always lived below 1000 feet above sea level, haven't you?
Ask notbob about the need for a pressure cooker.
On 10/17/2026 9:59 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-10-17 8:10 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-
Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-
Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck
out of me.
My parents had one when I was a kid but my mother was afraid to use it.
Some people swear by them.
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker. I don't actually recall
what my mother cooked in hers. Some tough cut of roast from the
military commissary, maybe. The rocker thing on the top venting steam scared me. It's the one thing I'm grateful she did not hand down to me.
jmcquown wrote :
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker.
You've always lived below 1000 feet above sea level, haven't you?
Ask notbob about the need for a pressure cooker.
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 10/17/2026 9:59 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-10-17 8:10 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-
Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-
Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >>>> own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck
out of me.
My parents had one when I was a kid but my mother was afraid to use it.
Some people swear by them.
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker. I don't actually recall
what my mother cooked in hers. Some tough cut of roast from the
military commissary, maybe. The rocker thing on the top venting steam
scared me. It's the one thing I'm grateful she did not hand down to me.
My grandmother used hers for pot roast and chicken stock.
I would have been embarrassed to be afraid of something my
grandmother could wrangle.
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker. I don't actually recall
what my mother cooked in hers. Some tough cut of roast from the
military commissary, maybe. The rocker thing on the top venting steam
scared me. It's the one thing I'm grateful she did not hand down to me.
My grandmother used hers for pot roast and chicken stock.
I would have been embarrassed to be afraid of something my
grandmother could wrangle.
On 10/17/2026 10:48 AM, heyjoe wrote:
I'm currently about 23 feet above sea level. Not sure about Memphis
which is where I lived before but it was flat, no mountains. My parents were from Western Ohio which is where my mother likely got the pressure cooker back in the 1950's. No high altitude problems. A pressure
cooker was just a thing people in those days had and used.
Sadly, I think notbob died. Haven't heard from him in years. No way to reach him.
On 10/17/2026 11:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 10/17/2026 9:59 AM, Dave Smith wrote:My grandmother used hers for pot roast and chicken stock.
On 2026-10-17 8:10 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-
Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-
Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >>>>> own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck >>>>> out of me.
My parents had one when I was a kid but my mother was afraid to use it. >>>> Some people swear by them.
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker. I don't actually recall
what my mother cooked in hers. Some tough cut of roast from the
military commissary, maybe. The rocker thing on the top venting steam
scared me. It's the one thing I'm grateful she did not hand down to me. >>
I would have been embarrassed to be afraid of something my
grandmother could wrangle.
Perhaps embarrassed is the wrong word. But the original post is about a recall where a modern pressure cooker that might explode. One from the 1950's, did not want it.
On 2026-10-17 11:54 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker. I don't actually recallMy grandmother used hers for pot roast and chicken stock.
what my mother cooked in hers. Some tough cut of roast from the
military commissary, maybe. The rocker thing on the top venting steam
scared me. It's the one thing I'm grateful she did not hand down to me. >>
I would have been embarrassed to be afraid of something my
grandmother could wrangle.
A number of people of her generation wrangled them unsuccessfully. Those types of experiences scared a lot of people away from pressure cookers.
On 10/17/2026 12:08 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-10-17 11:54 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker. I don't actually recallMy grandmother used hers for pot roast and chicken stock.
what my mother cooked in hers. Some tough cut of roast from the
military commissary, maybe. The rocker thing on the top venting steam >>>> scared me. It's the one thing I'm grateful she did not hand down to me. >>>
I would have been embarrassed to be afraid of something my
grandmother could wrangle.
A number of people of her generation wrangled them unsuccessfully. Those
types of experiences scared a lot of people away from pressure cookers.
I am confident that I am not a moron.
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out
of me.
On 2026-10-17 8:10 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-
Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-
Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck
out of me.
My parents had one when I was a kid but my mother was afraid to use it.
Some people swear by them.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure >>> cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out
of me.
My mom bought one when I was a kid. Evidently, it was for me since I never saw
her use it. It was certainly a scary thing but after a couple of uses, it was smooth sailing. Back then, the pressure cookers would hiss and sputter. The modern electric cooker won't make a sound until you vent them. If you let the pressure drop on its own, it doesn't make any sound at all. The old Presto we owned had a couple of over-pressure seals that would blow if the pressure got too high and an interlock that prevented the lid from opening under pressure. It was safe unless someone did something stupid.
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out
of me.
On 10/17/2026 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure >>> cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out
of me.
My mom bought one when I was a kid. Evidently, it was for me since I never saw
her use it. It was certainly a scary thing but after a couple of uses, it was
smooth sailing. Back then, the pressure cookers would hiss and sputter. The modern electric cooker won't make a sound until you vent them. If you let the
pressure drop on its own, it doesn't make any sound at all. The old Presto we
owned had a couple of over-pressure seals that would blow if the pressure got
too high and an interlock that prevented the lid from opening under pressure.
It was safe unless someone did something stupid.
It's that "interlock," as you call it, that is failing on these
machines. I just got the one back that I gave my son, so now I have
three. They might all get used this Thanksgiving, as I'm doing the
cooking, then transporting the food to my s-i-l's house. She has two
young children, and her house is child-proofed, so she wants to have the event there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bpm6oYZUVKUSsKmp8
On 10/17/2026 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:It's that "interlock," as you call it, that is failing on these
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this
pressure
cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out >>> of me.
My mom bought one when I was a kid. Evidently, it was for me since I
never saw
her use it. It was certainly a scary thing but after a couple of uses,
it was
smooth sailing. Back then, the pressure cookers would hiss and
sputter. The
modern electric cooker won't make a sound until you vent them. If you
let the
pressure drop on its own, it doesn't make any sound at all. The old
Presto we
owned had a couple of over-pressure seals that would blow if the
pressure got
too high and an interlock that prevented the lid from opening under
pressure.
It was safe unless someone did something stupid.
machines. I just got the one back that I gave my son, so now I have
three. They might all get used this Thanksgiving, as I'm doing the
cooking, then transporting the food to my s-i-l's house. She has two
young children, and her house is child-proofed, so she wants to have the event there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bpm6oYZUVKUSsKmp8
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:measure to take is to, after locking the lid, making sure that the lock engages. The SPSC considers any product that is not moron proof to be unacceptably unsafe. They are 100% safe if you wait until they cool
On 10/17/2026 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:It's that "interlock," as you call it, that is failing on these
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure >>>>> cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >>>> own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out >>>> of me.
My mom bought one when I was a kid. Evidently, it was for me since I never saw
her use it. It was certainly a scary thing but after a couple of uses, it was
smooth sailing. Back then, the pressure cookers would hiss and sputter. The >>> modern electric cooker won't make a sound until you vent them. If you let the
pressure drop on its own, it doesn't make any sound at all. The old Presto we
owned had a couple of over-pressure seals that would blow if the pressure got
too high and an interlock that prevented the lid from opening under pressure.
It was safe unless someone did something stupid.
machines. I just got the one back that I gave my son, so now I have
three. They might all get used this Thanksgiving, as I'm doing the
cooking, then transporting the food to my s-i-l's house. She has two
young children, and her house is child-proofed, so she wants to have the
event there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bpm6oYZUVKUSsKmp8
The CPSC advisory is pretty much doggie doo-doo. It doesn't really say a thing
about how the interlock fails. It's as if they want to hide the true nature of
the failure. It's like saying an airplane is unsafe because the aircraft crashes.
What's remarkable is that you have 3 of these models. The CPSC bulletin gives you no information on how to safely operate these bombs. Mostly, it says that you're screwed because you can't do a thing about this.
I was able to determine the nature of the defect. The main safety
Bryan Simmons wrote on 10/17/2026 1:51 PM:
On 10/17/2026 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:It's that "interlock," as you call it, that is failing on these
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this
pressure
cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-
Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-
Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >>>> own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out >>>> of me.
My mom bought one when I was a kid. Evidently, it was for me since I
never saw
her use it. It was certainly a scary thing but after a couple of
uses, it was
smooth sailing. Back then, the pressure cookers would hiss and
sputter. The
modern electric cooker won't make a sound until you vent them. If you
let the
pressure drop on its own, it doesn't make any sound at all. The old
Presto we
owned had a couple of over-pressure seals that would blow if the
pressure got
too high and an interlock that prevented the lid from opening under
pressure.
It was safe unless someone did something stupid.
machines. I just got the one back that I gave my son, so now I have
three. They might all get used this Thanksgiving, as I'm doing the
cooking, then transporting the food to my s-i-l's house. She has two
young children, and her house is child-proofed, so she wants to have
the event there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bpm6oYZUVKUSsKmp8
You should consider building a conveyor belt running to the in-laws house.
On 10/17/2026 3:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 10/17/2026 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:It's that "interlock," as you call it, that is failing on these
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure
cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >>>> own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out >>>> of me.
My mom bought one when I was a kid. Evidently, it was for me since I never saw
her use it. It was certainly a scary thing but after a couple of uses, it was
smooth sailing. Back then, the pressure cookers would hiss and sputter. The
modern electric cooker won't make a sound until you vent them. If you let the
pressure drop on its own, it doesn't make any sound at all. The old Presto we
owned had a couple of over-pressure seals that would blow if the pressure got
too high and an interlock that prevented the lid from opening under pressure.
It was safe unless someone did something stupid.
machines. I just got the one back that I gave my son, so now I have
three. They might all get used this Thanksgiving, as I'm doing the
cooking, then transporting the food to my s-i-l's house. She has two
young children, and her house is child-proofed, so she wants to have the >> event there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bpm6oYZUVKUSsKmp8
The CPSC advisory is pretty much doggie doo-doo. It doesn't really say a thing
about how the interlock fails. It's as if they want to hide the true nature of
the failure. It's like saying an airplane is unsafe because the aircraft crashes.
What's remarkable is that you have 3 of these models. The CPSC bulletin givesmeasure to take is to, after locking the lid, making sure that the lock engages. The SPSC considers any product that is not moron proof to be unacceptably unsafe. They are 100% safe if you wait until they cool
you no information on how to safely operate these bombs. Mostly, it says that
you're screwed because you can't do a thing about this.
I was able to determine the nature of the defect. The main safety
enough to lose pressure before attempting to remove the lid. There's
also a steam release switch. Again, the only danger is if the user
actively tries to remove the lid with the contents still under pressure. Since no one but I uses the pressure function of the unit, it is totally safe.
On 10/17/2026 3:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:measure to take is to, after locking the lid, making sure that the lock engages. The SPSC considers any product that is not moron proof to be unacceptably unsafe. They are 100% safe if you wait until they cool
On 10/17/2026 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:It's that "interlock," as you call it, that is failing on these
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this
pressure
cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >>>>> own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck >>>>> out
of me.
My mom bought one when I was a kid. Evidently, it was for me since I
never saw
her use it. It was certainly a scary thing but after a couple of
uses, it was
smooth sailing. Back then, the pressure cookers would hiss and
sputter. The
modern electric cooker won't make a sound until you vent them. If
you let the
pressure drop on its own, it doesn't make any sound at all. The old
Presto we
owned had a couple of over-pressure seals that would blow if the
pressure got
too high and an interlock that prevented the lid from opening under
pressure.
It was safe unless someone did something stupid.
machines. I just got the one back that I gave my son, so now I have
three. They might all get used this Thanksgiving, as I'm doing the
cooking, then transporting the food to my s-i-l's house. She has two
young children, and her house is child-proofed, so she wants to have the >>> event there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bpm6oYZUVKUSsKmp8
The CPSC advisory is pretty much doggie doo-doo. It doesn't really say
a thing
about how the interlock fails. It's as if they want to hide the true
nature of
the failure. It's like saying an airplane is unsafe because the
aircraft crashes.
What's remarkable is that you have 3 of these models. The CPSC
bulletin gives
you no information on how to safely operate these bombs. Mostly, it
says that
you're screwed because you can't do a thing about this.
I was able to determine the nature of the defect. The main safety
enough to lose pressure before attempting to remove the lid. There's
also a steam release switch. Again, the only danger is if the user
actively tries to remove the lid with the contents still under pressure. Since no one but I uses the pressure function of the unit, it is totally safe.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 10/17/2026 3:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:measure to take is to, after locking the lid, making sure that the lock
On 10/17/2026 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:It's that "interlock," as you call it, that is failing on these
On 10/16/2026 9:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure
cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >>>>>> own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out >>>>>> of me.
My mom bought one when I was a kid. Evidently, it was for me since I never saw
her use it. It was certainly a scary thing but after a couple of uses, it was
smooth sailing. Back then, the pressure cookers would hiss and sputter. The
modern electric cooker won't make a sound until you vent them. If you let the
pressure drop on its own, it doesn't make any sound at all. The old Presto we
owned had a couple of over-pressure seals that would blow if the pressure got
too high and an interlock that prevented the lid from opening under pressure.
It was safe unless someone did something stupid.
machines. I just got the one back that I gave my son, so now I have
three. They might all get used this Thanksgiving, as I'm doing the
cooking, then transporting the food to my s-i-l's house. She has two
young children, and her house is child-proofed, so she wants to have the >>>> event there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bpm6oYZUVKUSsKmp8
The CPSC advisory is pretty much doggie doo-doo. It doesn't really say a thing
about how the interlock fails. It's as if they want to hide the true nature of
the failure. It's like saying an airplane is unsafe because the aircraft crashes.
What's remarkable is that you have 3 of these models. The CPSC bulletin gives
you no information on how to safely operate these bombs. Mostly, it says that
you're screwed because you can't do a thing about this.
I was able to determine the nature of the defect. The main safety
engages. The SPSC considers any product that is not moron proof to be
unacceptably unsafe. They are 100% safe if you wait until they cool
enough to lose pressure before attempting to remove the lid. There's
also a steam release switch. Again, the only danger is if the user
actively tries to remove the lid with the contents still under pressure.
Since no one but I uses the pressure function of the unit, it is totally
safe.
My machine doesn't have a manual lock. You have to turn the machine on and
if you have the vent in the off position, the cooker gets pressurized as it heats up. At that time, the lid locks. It remains locked until the pressure is
normalized. I've never seen an interlock fail. The pressure in the pot presses
the seal against the lid so it probably wouldn't be possible to open the lid without forcing it anyway. Of course, that would be very stupid.
Sadly, I think notbob died. Haven't heard from him in years. No way to reach him.
jmcquown wrote :
Sadly, I think notbob died. Haven't heard from him in years. No way to
reach him.
Knew his Mom died, not sure about him. I didn't think he was that
old. More likely his computer died or he got tired of wrangling
Windows. I was always a bit jealous of him, living on the bank of
the Arkansas river. We used to out there for vacation and spend a
couple of days kayaking the Arkansas river. Then go up to the head
waters of the Rio Grande. Could've used a pressure cooker up there.
On 2026-10-17 11:54 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I never saw the need for a pressure cooker. I don't actually recallMy grandmother used hers for pot roast and chicken stock.
what my mother cooked in hers. Some tough cut of roast from the
military commissary, maybe. The rocker thing on the top venting steam
scared me. It's the one thing I'm grateful she did not hand down to me. >>
I would have been embarrassed to be afraid of something my
grandmother could wrangle.
A number of people of her generation wrangled them unsuccessfully. Those types of experiences scared a lot of people away from pressure cookers.
I was able to determine the nature of the defect. The main safety
measure to take is to, after locking the lid, making sure that the lock engages. The SPSC considers any product that is not moron proof to be unacceptably unsafe. They are 100% safe if you wait until they cool
enough to lose pressure before attempting to remove the lid. There's
also a steam release switch. Again, the only danger is if the user
actively tries to remove the lid with the contents still under pressure. Since no one but I uses the pressure function of the unit, it is totally safe.
On 10/16/2026 8:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Consumer Products Safety Commission has issued a recall on this pressure cooker.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Warnings/2027/CPSC-Warns-Consumers-to-Immediately-Stop-Using-Tristar-Products-6-Quart-Power-Quick-Pot-Pressure-Cookers-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-from-Burn-Hazard?
Thank you. This is good to know. The issue is the locking mechanism that
is supposed to prevent users from opening the lid until the pressure has dropped to atmospheric pressure. I own two of them. I am the only one
who uses them for pressure cooking, and I would never carelessly try to
open one that I haven't manually released the vent. I will warn my son
too, though I have no idea whether he ever uses the pressure function on his. Maybe he'll tell me that he doesn't really use it at all anyway,
and will give it back to me. Then, I'd have three!
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out
of me.
I tried once or twice to see if the lid on my Ninja Foodi would wiggle
around or even hint at being loose once pressure was built. I think the
only thing that would have budged it was a hatchet. It was on there tight and until it released pressure naturally or I released the steam switch
that lid wasn't moving. When I release the steam valve I just walk away
and let it do its' thing.
On 2026-10-17 8:28 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I tried once or twice to see if the lid on my Ninja Foodi would wiggle
around or even hint at being loose once pressure was built. I think the
only thing that would have budged it was a hatchet. It was on there tight >> and until it released pressure naturally or I released the steam switch
that lid wasn't moving. When I release the steam valve I just walk away
and let it do its' thing.
I wouldn't want to mess with it too much. I had a problem with my turkey >this past Thanksgiving.
dsi1 wrote on 10/17/2026 5:48 PM:
My machine doesn't have a manual lock. You have to turn the machine on and if you have the vent in the off position, the cooker gets pressurized as it heats up. At that time, the lid locks. It remains locked until the pressure is
normalized. I've never seen an interlock fail. The pressure in the pot presses
the seal against the lid so it probably wouldn't be possible to open the lid
without forcing it anyway. Of course, that would be very stupid.
Uncle,
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:
dsi1 wrote on 10/17/2026 5:48 PM:
My machine doesn't have a manual lock. You have to turn the machine on and >>> if you have the vent in the off position, the cooker gets pressurized as it >>> heats up. At that time, the lid locks. It remains locked until the pressure is
normalized. I've never seen an interlock fail. The pressure in the pot presses
the seal against the lid so it probably wouldn't be possible to open the lid
without forcing it anyway. Of course, that would be very stupid.
Uncle,
These multi-cookers are important because they've introduced a whole new generation of cooks into the wonderful, magical, world of pressure cooking. Hopefully, they don't have a tendency to explode - that would be scary and would really mess up the flow of things. I have a regular pressure cooker
but the multi-cookers are a lot simpler to operate.
On 10/18/2026 6:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:
dsi1 wrote on 10/17/2026 5:48 PM:
My machine doesn't have a manual lock. You have to turn the machine on and
if you have the vent in the off position, the cooker gets pressurized as it
heats up. At that time, the lid locks. It remains locked until the pressure is
normalized. I've never seen an interlock fail. The pressure in the pot presses
the seal against the lid so it probably wouldn't be possible to open the lid
without forcing it anyway. Of course, that would be very stupid.
Uncle,
These multi-cookers are important because they've introduced a whole new generation of cooks into the wonderful, magical, world of pressure cooking. Hopefully, they don't have a tendency to explode - that would be scary and would really mess up the flow of things. I have a regular pressure cooker but the multi-cookers are a lot simpler to operate.
They don't "explode." The issue was that the safety that kept morons
from removing the lid while the unit was still pressurized failed in a certain number of cases, probably well over 2 orders of magnitude than
the number of folks injured because only a moron would attempt to open a pressure cooker that's still pressurized. I'm sure as Hell not
destroying mine because I'm not a moron.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 10/18/2026 6:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:>
dsi1 wrote on 10/17/2026 5:48 PM:
My machine doesn't have a manual lock. You have to turn the machine on and
if you have the vent in the off position, the cooker gets pressurized as it
heats up. At that time, the lid locks. It remains locked until the pressure is
normalized. I've never seen an interlock fail. The pressure in the pot presses
the seal against the lid so it probably wouldn't be possible to open the lid
without forcing it anyway. Of course, that would be very stupid.
Uncle,
These multi-cookers are important because they've introduced a whole new >>> generation of cooks into the wonderful, magical, world of pressure cooking. >>> Hopefully, they don't have a tendency to explode - that would be scary and >>> would really mess up the flow of things. I have a regular pressure cooker >>> but the multi-cookers are a lot simpler to operate.
They don't "explode." The issue was that the safety that kept morons
from removing the lid while the unit was still pressurized failed in a
certain number of cases, probably well over 2 orders of magnitude than
the number of folks injured because only a moron would attempt to open a
pressure cooker that's still pressurized. I'm sure as Hell not
destroying mine because I'm not a moron.
The CPSC notice doesn't say a thing about morons opening the cooker while it's
still pressurized. There's nothing about anybody doing anything stupid with the
cooker. It does say to stop using it, don't sell it, don't give it away. That's
pretty explicit.
The CPSC notice doesn't say a thing about morons opening the cooker while it's
still pressurized
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:I didn't just look at that web page. I did more investigating because A.
On 10/18/2026 6:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:>
dsi1 wrote on 10/17/2026 5:48 PM:
My machine doesn't have a manual lock. You have to turn the machine on and
if you have the vent in the off position, the cooker gets pressurized as it
heats up. At that time, the lid locks. It remains locked until the pressure is
normalized. I've never seen an interlock fail. The pressure in the pot presses
the seal against the lid so it probably wouldn't be possible to open the lid
without forcing it anyway. Of course, that would be very stupid.
Uncle,
These multi-cookers are important because they've introduced a whole new >>> generation of cooks into the wonderful, magical, world of pressure cooking. >>> Hopefully, they don't have a tendency to explode - that would be scary and >>> would really mess up the flow of things. I have a regular pressure cooker >>> but the multi-cookers are a lot simpler to operate.
They don't "explode." The issue was that the safety that kept morons
from removing the lid while the unit was still pressurized failed in a
certain number of cases, probably well over 2 orders of magnitude than
the number of folks injured because only a moron would attempt to open a
pressure cooker that's still pressurized. I'm sure as Hell not
destroying mine because I'm not a moron.
The CPSC notice doesn't say a thing about morons opening the cooker while it's
still pressurized. There's nothing about anybody doing anything stupid with the
cooker. It does say to stop using it, don't sell it, don't give it away. That's
pretty explicit.
"The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is warning consumers to stop
using the 6-quart Power Quick Pot pressure cookers, model Y6D-36, immediately because they pose a risk of serious injury from burn hazard. The pressure cooker’s
lid can open while pressurized, causing hot contents to be expelled unexpectedly.
CPSC urges consumers to stop using the pressure cookers immediately and dispose
of them. Do not sell or give away these hazardous products."
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
The CPSC notice doesn't say a thing about morons opening the cooker while it's
still pressurized
I mean there is a big ass valve, and to open a pressurized cooker you
have to use some force. are people stupid?
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
The CPSC notice doesn't say a thing about morons opening the cooker while it's
still pressurized
I mean there is a big ass valve, and to open a pressurized cooker you
have to use some force. are people stupid?
On 10/18/2026 9:04 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 10/18/2026 6:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:>
dsi1 wrote on 10/17/2026 5:48 PM:
My machine doesn't have a manual lock. You have to turn the machine on and
if you have the vent in the off position, the cooker gets pressurized as it
heats up. At that time, the lid locks. It remains locked until the pressure is
normalized. I've never seen an interlock fail. The pressure in the pot presses
the seal against the lid so it probably wouldn't be possible to open the lid
without forcing it anyway. Of course, that would be very stupid.
Uncle,
These multi-cookers are important because they've introduced a whole new >>> generation of cooks into the wonderful, magical, world of pressure cooking.
Hopefully, they don't have a tendency to explode - that would be scary and
would really mess up the flow of things. I have a regular pressure cooker >>> but the multi-cookers are a lot simpler to operate.
They don't "explode." The issue was that the safety that kept morons
from removing the lid while the unit was still pressurized failed in a
certain number of cases, probably well over 2 orders of magnitude than
the number of folks injured because only a moron would attempt to open a >> pressure cooker that's still pressurized. I'm sure as Hell not
destroying mine because I'm not a moron.
The CPSC notice doesn't say a thing about morons opening the cooker while it's
still pressurized. There's nothing about anybody doing anything stupid with the
cooker. It does say to stop using it, don't sell it, don't give it away. That's
pretty explicit.
"The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is warning consumers to stop
using the 6-quart Power Quick Pot pressure cookers, model Y6D-36, immediately
because they pose a risk of serious injury from burn hazard. The pressure cooker’s
lid can open while pressurized, causing hot contents to be expelled unexpectedly.
CPSC urges consumers to stop using the pressure cookers immediately and disposeI didn't just look at that web page. I did more investigating because A.
of them. Do not sell or give away these hazardous products."
I own 3 of them, so it directly affects me, and B. I'm not a lazy
thinker who doesn't bother to find out "the why" of things. If you'd put
as much effort into discovering the actual flaw in the device as you
have typing about it on this NG, you wouldn't have written what you posted.
I expect that sort of intellectual laziness from Joan or Hank, certainly from Jill, and sometimes even from Ed, but from you it's atypical. There
are no morons here, and certainly no imbeciles nor idiots, but there are folks who are intellectually lazy, and who care more about looking like they're correct than actually *being* correct. The GOD DAMNED THINGS are safe to use by anyone who is careful not to deliberately rotate the lid clockwise about 5 degrees to remove it. They don't "explode." The lid
does not disengage is the user doesn't attempt to remove the lid. The
CPSC's warning should be read by those who are capable of thinking
outside the box as, *Pay extra attention to whether the pressure has
truly been released before attempting to remove the lid, as in
documented cases, the safety mechanism that is intended to prevent the
lid from being removed while the unit is still pressurized has failed, resulting in serious burns.*
What strikes me as funny is that the refusal of the company to offer any sort of recall opens them up to lawsuits from folks who would be willing
to suffer the pain of burns, who might intentionally remove the lids
with an eye toward seeking settlements. Maybe either way, the company
could not absorb the cost of replacing half a million lids. The issue is with the lids.
I'll continue to use the pressure function, but even if I didn't, the
other settings are worth not trashing the device.
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out
of me.
Me too. Watching it rattling and puffing on the stove, I lost interest
young.
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not
own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out >> > of me.
Me too. Watching it rattling and puffing on the stove, I lost interest
young.
I like rattling and puffing. Something like that would draw me in like a moth to
a flame.
On Mon, 19 Oct 2026 04:58:16 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >>>> own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out >>>> of me.
Me too. Watching it rattling and puffing on the stove, I lost interest
young.
I like rattling and puffing. Something like that would draw me in like a moth to
a flame.
That makes it a trifecta: hearing aids, guitars and pressure cookers!
On Mon, 19 Oct 2026 04:58:16 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-10-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I know people say modern day pressure cookers are safe but I would not >> > own one. My mother had one when I was a kid and it scared the heck out >> > of me.
Me too. Watching it rattling and puffing on the stove, I lost interest
young.
I like rattling and puffing. Something like that would draw me in like a moth to
a flame.
That makes it a trifecta: hearing aids, guitars and pressure cookers!
On 10/18/2026 11:05 PM, bixbox wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
are people stupid?
That is proven every day. Just watch the news.
On 2026-10-18 9:51 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 10/18/2026 11:05 PM, bixbox wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
are people stupid?
That is proven every day. Just watch the news.
Never forget that 50% of the population is of below
average intelligence:-)
On 2026-10-18 9:51 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 10/18/2026 11:05 PM, bixbox wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
are people stupid?
That is proven every day. Just watch the news.
Never forget that 50% of the population is of below
average intelligence:-)
On 2026-10-20 2:02 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2026-10-18 9:51 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 10/18/2026 11:05 PM, bixbox wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
are people stupid?
That is proven every day. Just watch the news.
Never forget that 50% of the population is of below
average intelligence:-)
That is 50% of the population at large. Look at the number of people
posting here who are obviously on the Downs side of the bell curve.
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
On 10/20/2026 5:31 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
He's a dumbass. It's *Down* Syndrome, not Downs Syndrome. I guess he's
on the left side of the ol' curve.
On 10/20/2026 5:31 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
He's a dumbass. It's *Down* Syndrome, not Downs Syndrome. I guess he's
on the left side of the ol' curve.
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
On 2026-10-20 6:31 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
I figured that some people here would not notice that. Thanks Bruce for >stepping forward to self identify.
On 10/20/2026 7:00 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
On 10/20/2026 5:31 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:He's a dumbass. It's *Down* Syndrome, not Downs Syndrome. I guess he's
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
;
on the left side of the ol' curve.
Often called Down's (with apostrophe) as it is named after Dr. Down.
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy. Trisomy 21 is common use also.
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
He's a dumbass. It's *Down* Syndrome, not Downs Syndrome. I guess he's
on the left side of the ol' curve.
On 2026-10-20 8:08 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 10/20/2026 7:00 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
On 10/20/2026 5:31 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:He's a dumbass. It's *Down* Syndrome, not Downs Syndrome. I guess he's
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
;
on the left side of the ol' curve.
Often called Down's (with apostrophe) as it is named after Dr. Down.
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy. Trisomy 21 is common use also.
In this case I stand by my apostrophe that refers to the side of the
curve it is own. I wonder how they spelled in on his childhood assessments.
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:Worried about an "s"? It used to be called mongoloid.
He's a dumbass. It's *Down* Syndrome, not Downs Syndrome. I guess he's
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
on the left side of the ol' curve.
Down syndrome is the preferred term in modern medical and scientific usage.
Down’s syndrome is still used in some regions (especially the UK) but refers
to the same condition.
~
On 2026-10-20 7:05 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:Worried about an "s"? It used to be called mongoloid.
He's a dumbass. It's *Down* Syndrome, not Downs Syndrome. I guess he's
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
on the left side of the ol' curve.
Down syndrome is the preferred term in modern medical and scientific usage. >>
Down’s syndrome is still used in some regions (especially the UK) but refers
to the same condition.
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what we called >him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a racial >slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that either. That >was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't really have >ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
On 2026-10-20 7:05 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Down’s syndrome is still used in some regions (especially the UK) butWorried about an "s"? It used to be called mongoloid.
refers
to the same condition.
~
When I studied psychology in the 1970s there was a perfectly acceptable
term "mentally retarded". My wife was a special ed teacher and worked
for a while in a "School for the Trainable Mental Retarded". That label fell out of favour when it was seen as a pejorative and they started
using other terms that have since become pejoratives.
This is what people who complain about "the r-word" never seem to >understand. "Idiot" and "moron" began as medical terms and then
became insults. The same thing happened to "retarded." It's
normal.
It was still the late 80s when I first heard people using
"special" as an insult. Human beings seem to need a lot of ways
to call each other stupid.
On 10/20/2026 7:00 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
On 10/20/2026 5:31 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-10-20, Uncle Bruce wrote:He's a dumbass. It's *Down* Syndrome, not Downs Syndrome. I guess he's
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:02:06 -0400, Dave Smith
[...] people posting here who are obviously
on the Downs side of the bell curve.
Yeah, there's one guy who's constantly stating the obvious!
Like you are too obviously vainglorious
to give Dave any credit for his pun.
;
on the left side of the ol' curve.
Often called Down's (with apostrophe) as it is named after Dr. Down.
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy. Trisomy 21 is common use also.
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote or quoted:
This is what people who complain about "the r-word" never seem to
understand. "Idiot" and "moron" began as medical terms and then
became insults. The same thing happened to "retarded." It's
normal.
Coined by linguist and cognitive scientist Steven Pinker
in 1994, the /euphemism treadmill/ describes the linguistic
phenomenon where a new, polite word is introduced to replace an
offensive term, only for the new word to eventually absorb the
same negative stigma and require replacement all over again.
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote or quoted:
This is what people who complain about "the r-word" never seem to
understand. "Idiot" and "moron" began as medical terms and then
became insults. The same thing happened to "retarded." It's
normal.
Coined by linguist and cognitive scientist Steven Pinker
in 1994, the /euphemism treadmill/ describes the linguistic
phenomenon where a new, polite word is introduced to replace an
offensive term, only for the new word to eventually absorb the
same negative stigma and require replacement all over again.
It was still the late 80s when I first heard people using
"special" as an insult. Human beings seem to need a lot of ways
to call each other stupid.
The devaluation of others serves as a powerful, unconscious
psychological defense mechanism designed to protect a person's
fragile self-esteem and shield him from painful inner feelings
like inadequacy, envy, or shame.
On 2026-10-21 11:29 a.m., Stefan Ram wrote:
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote or quoted:
This is what people who complain about "the r-word" never seem to
understand. "Idiot" and "moron" began as medical terms and then
became insults. The same thing happened to "retarded." It's
normal.
Coined by linguist and cognitive scientist Steven Pinker
in 1994, the /euphemism treadmill/ describes the linguistic
phenomenon where a new, polite word is introduced to replace an
offensive term, only for the new word to eventually absorb the
same negative stigma and require replacement all over again.
It was still the late 80s when I first heard people using
"special" as an insult. Human beings seem to need a lot of ways
to call each other stupid.
The devaluation of others serves as a powerful, unconscious
psychological defense mechanism designed to protect a person's
fragile self-esteem and shield him from painful inner feelings
like inadequacy, envy, or shame.
I remember show years ago where they were discussing the use of some of these terms. One of the guests was a feminist activist. She objected to
some said by a male caller and referred to him as being "challenged" My thought at that time was they she had just taken a politically correct
term and turned it into a pejorative. That
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 08:48:00 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what we called
him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a racial >slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that either. That
was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't really have
ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
What's silly is you for saying that.
When I studied psychology in the 1970s there was a perfectly acceptable
term "mentally retarded". My wife was a special ed teacher and worked
for a while in a "School for the Trainable Mental Retarded". That label fell out of favour when it was seen as a pejorative and they started
using other terms that have since become pejoratives.
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 08:48:00 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what we called
him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a racial >> >slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that either. That
was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't really have
ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these >racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
On 2026-10-21 11:42 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
I remember show years ago where they were discussing the use of some
of these terms. One of the guests was a feminist activist. She
objected to some said by a male caller and referred to him as being
"challenged" My thought at that time was they she had just taken a
politically correct term and turned it into a pejorative. That
I remember reading an article by a rabid feminist who said that she
was unsure about using the word "person" because of the last three letters.
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 08:48:00 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what we called
him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a racial >>> slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that either. That
was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't really have
ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 20:57:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 08:48:00 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what we called
him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a racial >>>> slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that either. That
was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't really have
ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these
racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
On 2026-10-21 4:02 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2026-10-21 11:42 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
I remember show years ago where they were discussing the use of some
of these terms. One of the guests was a feminist activist. She
objected to some said by a male caller and referred to him as being
"challenged" My thought at that time was they she had just taken a
politically correct term and turned it into a pejorative. That
I remember reading an article by a rabid feminist who said that she
was unsure about using the word "person" because of the last three
letters.
Some people are too stupid and too ignorant to be entitled to an
opinion. I have known and worked with women who led committees and organizations who appropriately used the title "chairman", aware that it
was the position and not gender of the person and that "man" refers to
our human species, not just the makes. That validates the use "manhole".
Then there are those who object to "boycott" because of the "boy" in it.
It is actually named for Capt. Charles Boycott, an absentee landlord who
was subjected to protests in reaction to his evictions,
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 20:57:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 08:48:00 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what we called
him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a racial >>>> slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that either. That
was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't really have
ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these
racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
On 10/21/2026 5:20 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 20:57:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 08:48:00 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what >>>>> we called
him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a >>>>> racial
slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that
either. That
was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't
really have
ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these >>> racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
Hawaii was actually part of California. About 100 years ago it broke
off and drifted out to sea to where it is now. The people are not
special, just drifting Californians.
Dave Smith wrote on 10/21/2026 4:40 PM:
That validates the use "manhole".
Then there are those who object to "boycott"
because of the "boy" in it. It is actually
named for Capt. Charles Boycott,
Thanks Dave! I would never have found that on my own.
On 10/21/2026 5:20 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 20:57:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 08:48:00 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what we called
him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a racial
slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that either. That
was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't really have
ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these >>> racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
Hawaii was actually part of California. About 100 years ago it broke
off and drifted out to sea to where it is now. The people are not
special, just drifting Californians.
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 20:57:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 08:48:00 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-10-21, Ed P wrote:
At one time it was called Mongolian idiocy.
One of my high school friends was named 'Lloyd'.
Of course, everyone called him 'Mongo'.
One of my friends in high school was named "Dago." Well that's what we called
him. That guy was a golden boy. I later learned that his name was a racial
slur on the mainland. Evidently, nobody else at school knew that either. That
was the name he was listed as in our yearbook. Da Hawaiians don't really have
ethnic slurs. That's just so silly.
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these >racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 20:57:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these >> >racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
You can tell a lot about people by the words they use. Da Hawaiians aren't >interested in calling other people demeaning names.
On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 01:01:22 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 20:57:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these >> >racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
You can tell a lot about people by the words they use. Da Hawaiians aren't >interested in calling other people demeaning names.
Hawaiians are darlings and ethnic slur is far beneath them! If I were
a Hindu, I'd try to lead a perfect life so I could come back as a
Hawaiian!
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 01:01:22 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 20:57:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
What's silly is you for saying that.
Yoose is an expert on da Hawaiians now? I don't think so. What are these >>>>> racial/ethnic slurs? Please refresh my memory.
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know >>>> any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
You can tell a lot about people by the words they use. Da Hawaiians aren't >>> interested in calling other people demeaning names.
Hawaiians are darlings and ethnic slur is far beneath them! If I were
a Hindu, I'd try to lead a perfect life so I could come back as a
Hawaiian!
Not with your attitude. In order to be Hawaiian you have to love the people, culture, and land of Hawaii. My guess is that you don't even qualify as an Australian i.e., you don't seem interested in the land that you live on. What a fate!
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 01:01:22 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
You can tell a lot about people by the words they use. Da Hawaiians aren't >> >interested in calling other people demeaning names.
Hawaiians are darlings and ethnic slur is far beneath them! If I were
a Hindu, I'd try to lead a perfect life so I could come back as a
Hawaiian!
Not with your attitude. In order to be Hawaiian you have to love the people, >culture, and land of Hawaii. My guess is that you don't even qualify as an >Australian i.e., you don't seem interested in the land that you live on. What >a fate!
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
Inferiority complex? Your analysis is incorrect - as usual, Herr Doktor. Being >on the mainland doesn't change me. Nothing changes me. I gots nothing to fear. >As we all know, Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger >leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Your fear of food and anger at people >different from you is all in writing. Your suffering is complete.
On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 16:29:44 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
Inferiority complex? Your analysis is incorrect - as usual, Herr Doktor. Being
on the mainland doesn't change me. Nothing changes me. I gots nothing to fear.
As we all know, Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger
leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Your fear of food and anger at people
different from you is all in writing. Your suffering is complete.
You don't have to admit that you have an inferiority complex. Just
give the idea some thought.
By the way, anger?
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 16:29:44 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
Racism is universal. Hawaiians aren't a bunch of saints who don't know
any racism. Hawaii is the only place that doesn't trigger your
inferiority complex. That's why you talk about Hawaii is if it's
heaven on earth.
Inferiority complex? Your analysis is incorrect - as usual, Herr Doktor. Being
on the mainland doesn't change me. Nothing changes me. I gots nothing to fear.
As we all know, Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger
leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Your fear of food and anger at people
different from you is all in writing. Your suffering is complete.
You don't have to admit that you have an inferiority complex. Just
give the idea some thought.
By the way, anger?
Nobody on this planet will admit to have an inferiority complex. It's the >nature of having an inferiority complex.
Most people on Usenet have problems with anger. A lot of time is spent complaining about people, places, and
things. That's the breaks.
Nobody on this planet will admit to have an inferiority complex. It's the >nature of having an inferiority complex. Most people on Usenet have problems >with anger. A lot of time is spent complaining about people, places, and >things. That's the breaks.
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote or quoted:
Nobody on this planet will admit to have an inferiority complex. It's the >nature of having an inferiority complex. Most people on Usenet have problems >with anger. A lot of time is spent complaining about people, places, and >things. That's the breaks.
Some time ago I read up on what a "complex" actually is.
That was interesting!
A complex is a subconscious cluster of emotionally charged thoughts
that drives automated, disproportionate emotional outbursts and
compulsive behaviors whenever triggered by real-world events. These
hidden psychological networks actively distort a person's current
perceptions, trapping them in rigid, repetitive behavioral patterns
that they often cannot consciously control or explain.
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote or quoted:
Nobody on this planet will admit to have an inferiority complex. It's the >>nature of having an inferiority complex. Most people on Usenet have problems >>with anger. A lot of time is spent complaining about people, places, and >>things. That's the breaks.
Some time ago I read up on what a "complex" actually is.
That was interesting!
A complex is a subconscious cluster of emotionally charged thoughts
that drives automated, disproportionate emotional outbursts and
compulsive behaviors whenever triggered by real-world events. These
hidden psychological networks actively distort a person's current
perceptions, trapping them in rigid, repetitive behavioral patterns
that they often cannot consciously control or explain.
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) posted:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote or quoted:
Nobody on this planet will admit to have an inferiority complex. It's the >> >nature of having an inferiority complex. Most people on Usenet have problems
with anger. A lot of time is spent complaining about people, places, and >> >things. That's the breaks.
Some time ago I read up on what a "complex" actually is.
That was interesting!
A complex is a subconscious cluster of emotionally charged thoughts
that drives automated, disproportionate emotional outbursts and
compulsive behaviors whenever triggered by real-world events. These
hidden psychological networks actively distort a person's current
perceptions, trapping them in rigid, repetitive behavioral patterns
that they often cannot consciously control or explain.
Emotional triggers - that's the thing, isn't it? I don't really react to things
on an emotional level. I have an emotional disconnect from things going on >around me. I might be neurologically dispositioned to that or perhaps it's a >cultural thing. Who knows? It's not for me to try to figure it out nor am I >trying to change myself.
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