• Needed: Software to show differences between two PDFs

    From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Jul 9 07:03:31 2026
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    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!
    --
    "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Jul 9 10:13:14 2026
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    On 7/9/26 10:03 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!

    Copilot returns:

    1. KIWI PDF Comparer — Free, Windows-focused

    KIWI PDF Comparer is a dedicated tool built specifically for visual PDF comparison. It
    highlights differences in text, images, and annotations, and supports synchronized
    side‑by‑side viewing. It’s free and works well for up to ~100 pages.
    2. Adobe Acrobat Pro DC — Most powerful & accurate

    Acrobat’s Compare Files tool is extremely robust. It detects changes in text, formatting,
    images, backgrounds, and even scanned pages. It produces a detailed report and side‑by‑side view. This is the most accurate option, but requires a subscription.
    3. Soda PDF — Easy interface, strong comparison

    Soda PDF includes a Compare Documents feature that highlights all changes between two
    versions. It’s simpler than Acrobat but still very capable.
    4. Draftable — Free online or desktop

    Draftable is great for quick comparisons. It highlights differences clearly and works in a
    browser or via a desktop app.
    5. WinMerge — General diff tool with image comparison

    WinMerge can compare images and text files. For PDFs, you typically export pages as images
    or text first, but its image diff mode can highlight visual differences. Useful if you
    prefer open‑source tools.
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    Alan K.
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  • From Allan Higdon@allanh@vivaldi.net to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Jul 9 09:28:23 2026
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    On Thu, 09 Jul 2026 09:03:31 -0500, Stan Brown <someone@example.com> wrote:


    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!


    B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson posted on alt.comp.freeware in 2023 about DiffPDF.

    The Last Freeware Version can be found at https://web.archive.org/web/20130805135953/http://qtrac.eu/diffpdf.html

    I also uploaded it to
    https://archive.org/details/diff-pdf-2.1.3
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Jul 9 10:59:05 2026
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    On 7/9/2026 10:03 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!


    Is the PDF one of those hybrid ones, where a docx is inside the PDF ? LibreOffice probably cannot read that, but Microsoft Office might.

    Paul

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  • From ....winston@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Jul 9 11:59:26 2026
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    On 07/09/2026 10:03 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!


    Prior to changing or during the 'change' process was there discussion of
    what needed to be changed(their recommendation or yours).
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 00:38:55 2026
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    On 7/9/2026 10:03 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust.....

    Not directly answering your question:

    Firstly, tell your lawyers to separate text from images
    and graphs. All images and graphs should be listed as
    appendixes. Then it will easier for you to just first
    compare the text than images.

    The problem is: what if your lawyers refuse to do it? :)
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  • From ....winston@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Jul 9 22:39:21 2026
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    On 07/09/2026 12:38 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 7/9/2026 10:03 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust.....

    Not directly answering your question:

    Firstly, tell your lawyers to separate text from images
    and graphs. All images and graphs should be listed as
    appendixes. Then it will easier for you to just first
    compare the text than images.

    The problem is: what if your lawyers refuse to do it? :)


    Legally drawn-up estate planning documents performed for a client by an attorney are routinely void of images and graphs.

    Estate Planning documents
    - Last Will and Testament
    - Trust(usually Revocaable Living)
    - Durable Power of Attorney (Financial management directions)
    - Durable Power of(for) Healthcare or Advance Health Care Directive
    - Designation of Beneficiary/Beneficiaries

    No graphs. No images.

    For the most part, your response is reasonably bizarre and
    unconventional direction, possibly ignorant of the estate planning
    process thus the reason for an off-the-wall response.
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  • From Flattened Doc@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 06:39:15 2026
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    On 09/07/2026 15:03, Stan Brown wrote:
    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    If these are sensitive documents, your attorneys must surely have
    flattened them before sending you the final version. A flattened
    document will not highlight any changes to the text. Microsoft Word has
    a feature that does exactly that. It also removes personal details such
    as the author, creation and revision dates.



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  • From Philip Herlihy@nothing@invalid.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 13:33:37 2026
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    In article <MPG.44b94a10121923519904c2@news.individual.net>, someone@example.com says...

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!

    AI can do this, but you have to be very specific what you ask for, or
    you'll get only semantic differences rather than textual ones.

    See this: https://share.gemini.google/PWBcw5KnpPyp
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 13:58:30 2026
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    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    AI can do this, but you have to be very specific what you ask for

    And you have to trust that your private PDFs won't end-up as part of its training dataset.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 23:34:12 2026
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    On 10/07/2026 12:03 am, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates.

    Do your Attorney's charge by the Word or by the Page?? ;-)
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  • From jetjock@jetjock@unkown.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 10:07:13 2026
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    On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 07:03:31 -0700, Stan Brown <someone@example.com>
    wrote:


    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!

    Nitro Pro has a "Compare" feature. I'm using v.9 but here is a link to
    the free "reader" v 13. Don't know if it will compare like the full
    version does, but you can check it if you want. https://nitro-pdf-reader.en.softonic.com/download

    >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 09:28:56 2026
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    On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 10:59:05 -0400, Paul wrote:

    On 7/9/2026 10:03 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!


    Is the PDF one of those hybrid ones, where a docx is inside the PDF ? LibreOffice probably cannot read that, but Microsoft Office might.

    This is the first I'm hearing of such a thing. But MS-word couldn't
    open it, and 7-zip offered to add it to an archive but not to extract
    from it. So I think in my case this route is a no-go.
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    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 09:33:57 2026
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    On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 11:59:26 -0400, ....winston wrote:

    On 07/09/2026 10:03 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!


    Prior to changing or during the 'change' process was there discussion of what needed to be changed(their recommendation or yours).

    Not sure where you're going with this. There was indeed discussion.

    But if you're suggesting I look at the document versions to see if my
    changes have been done, did that before posting. In too many
    instances, the paralegal or secretary made further mistakes in making
    the corrections I pointed out, for instance misspelling a legatee's
    name in a new way. I can point those out, and I have. But my concern
    is undiscussed changes she may have made, perhaps through
    carelessness. Some sort of diff seems the only reliable way to find
    out if she did that.
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    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 09:41:18 2026
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    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 13:33:37 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:

    In article <MPG.44b94a10121923519904c2@news.individual.net>, someone@example.com says...

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office >gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the >possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!

    AI can do this, but you have to be very specific what you ask for, or
    you'll get only semantic differences rather than textual ones.

    See this: https://share.gemini.google/PWBcw5KnpPyp

    I tried a few minutes ago at Winston's suggestion, but Word will not
    open the PDFs so I can't convert them to Word format. I've used
    Word's compare tool in the past, but since I can't get the PDFs into
    Word format ...

    I don't think I mentioned that I have Word 2010. Possibly if I had a
    later version it would open the PDFs, but I can't see paying the cost
    of a new Office for something I've needed once in sixteen years and
    probably won't need for another sixteen. :-)
    --
    "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 13:01:49 2026
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    On Fri, 7/10/2026 8:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    AI can do this, but you have to be very specific what you ask for

    And you have to trust that your private PDFs won't end-up as part of its training dataset.

    There may have been one "pdftotext" utility, which likely is not
    part of Ghostscript, that puts text on the same baseline out
    as text in the output document. That, and a copy of "diff" for patching,
    might be able to detect differences. It would really help if the
    document didn't have a lot of decorations at top and bottom.

    I ended up using the WSL2 version of it, as the Windows version of (poppler) from Softonic, did not work. I probably haven't hand-installed it correctly, and it was just faster to test with WSL2.

    pdftotext Windows-10-All-In-One-for-Dummies-4th-Edition.Pdf

    This is a sample output (in Windows-10-All-In-One-for-Dummies-4th-Edition.Pdf.txt file ).
    File type of that sample output is "Unicode Text":

    ******************************************* sample output ***********************************
    [PDF 801 Page Number 779 Below "Reducing spam"
    govern- ment was split on two lines, the software removed the hyphen and put two lines of text, on one line...]

    Everybody hates spam, but nobody has any idea how to stop it. Not the government. Not Bill Gates. Not your sainted aunt’s podiatrist’s second cousin.
    You think legislation can reduce the amount of spam? Since the US CAN-SPAM
    Act (www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/canspam.html) became law on January 7,
    2003, has the volume of spam you’ve received increased or decreased? Heck, I’ve
    had more spam from politicians lately than from almost any other group. The very
    people who are supposed to be enforcing the antispam laws seem to be spewing out spam overtime. <=== is missing a blank line here...
    By and large, Windows is only tangentially involved in the spam game — it’s the
    messenger, as it were. But every Windows user I know receives email. And every email user I know gets spam. Lots of it.

    CHAPTER 1 Spies, Spams, and Scams Are Out to Get You <=== Title bar at bottom...
    ******************************************* sample output ***********************************

    While this process is not OCR, the output is just as miserable
    to look at as OCR output.

    If I ran "diff" over the two output files, it would likely be rough going, especially if the pagination was changed even a little bit.

    It would really be better to get the docx with change bars.

    Paul

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  • From Michael Logies@logies@t-online.de to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 19:05:34 2026
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    I would upload to Google NotebookLM and let the AI do the comparison: https://notebooklm.google/
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 12:09:23 2026
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    On 7/10/2026 11:41 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 13:33:37 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:

    In article <MPG.44b94a10121923519904c2@news.individual.net>,
    someone@example.com says...

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    Is there any free software that runs in Windows and will show
    differences between two PDFs? Because these are sensitive documents,
    I don't want to upload them to a website. I tried googling, but
    couldn't find anything that would do the job without costing an arm
    and a leg.

    Thanks in advance!

    AI can do this, but you have to be very specific what you ask for, or
    you'll get only semantic differences rather than textual ones.

    See this: https://share.gemini.google/PWBcw5KnpPyp

    I tried a few minutes ago at Winston's suggestion, but Word will not
    open the PDFs so I can't convert them to Word format. I've used
    Word's compare tool in the past, but since I can't get the PDFs into
    Word format ...

    I don't think I mentioned that I have Word 2010. Possibly if I had a
    later version it would open the PDFs, but I can't see paying the cost
    of a new Office for something I've needed once in sixteen years and
    probably won't need for another sixteen. :-)

    Word 2010 won't natively open pdf's. You need at least 2013 version.

    BTW, You can get Office 2019 for $20

    <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional-plus-2019-for-windows-7>

    Office 2021 for $30

    <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional-2021-for-windows-lifetime-license-10>

    Office 2024 for $55

    <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-2024-professional-plus>
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 10:28:55 2026
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    On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 07:03:31 -0700, Stan Brown wrote:

    I'm currently going through estate planning, and my attorney's office
    gives me a new 80+ page document after each round of updates. You'd
    think they'd give me a redline version, but no. I don't trust myself
    to compare the versions on screen, and reading each draft of the
    whole document is really time consuming, plus there's still the
    possibility of missing something.

    [And no uploading to websites.]

    Suggestions to convert to Word and then use Word's compare tool
    didn't work for my Word 2010. I can't see buying a later version of
    Office for a one-time need. But the suggestions did cause me to think
    about converting to plain text. Mutool, which is part of the mupdf
    FOSS program, can convert PDFs to plain text.

    1. mutool draw -F txt version1.pdf >version1.txt
    2. csdiff version1.txt version2.txt

    mupdf main site: https://mupdf.com/
    mupdf downloads: https://mupdf.com/releases?product=MuPDF
    mutool manpage: https://www.mankier.com/1/mutool (third party)

    csdiff free program (via Internet Wayback Machine):
    https://web.archive.org/web/20141018214421/http://www.componentsoftware.com/Products/CSDiff

    csdiff is not open source but was a free program by Component
    Solutions, but disappeared from their website some years ago when the
    business changed direction. I've been using it since 2005, in Windows
    XP, 7, 8.1, 10, and 11, and have had no problems.
    --
    "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 14:03:40 2026
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    On Fri, 7/10/2026 1:05 PM, Michael Logies wrote:
    I would upload to Google NotebookLM and let the AI do the comparison: https://notebooklm.google/


    You can run some AI models on a local computer, with the network cable unplugged.
    The only problem I've seen so far, is the context size was limited to 4K, and normally it would be 128K or 256K or so. And that threatens analysis of longer documents.

    Generally, the cloud AI I would normally use, "likes" a URL with text at the destination, rather than consuming text in the query window. Whether that burns more or less Context, is hard to guess.

    And I've never asked an AI to compare two text files, like it was
    a copy of "diff". It's just not conceptually what an AI is good at.
    Just like it cannot count worth beans. A purpose-specific math module
    is better at math concepts, and the text comparison task likely needs
    something constructed for the purpose. And those are unlikely to be free.

    You can do some amount of pdftotext with a utility from long ago.
    I think it likely got forked, someone did a version in Python
    (which is a nuisance to set up on Windows). It's also part of Poppler-Utilities.

    Mutool can take PDF files apart, it has a conversion capability, and the conversion option likely supports text (not OCR to text, just embedded text to text).
    That's another way you could try to do it. The reason pdftotext was suggested, is that will take text on a common baseline and keep it on that baseline. Whereas a lot of other utilities, dump "islands of text" sequentially, ruining the layout.

    Paul
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 11:32:06 2026
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    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 12:09:23 -0500, sticks wrote:

    Office 2024 for $55

    <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-2024-professional-plus>

    I've been aware of Stack Social's "fire sales", but have always been
    nervous because it seemed like a substantial minority of purchasers
    get non-working licenses.

    But I'm torn. There are a few features of newer Excel that I'd like
    to try, though they're not must-haves. $54.99 is just the cost of a
    meal at a restaurant these days, so that doesn't seem like a big
    obstacle.

    One thing does worry me, though. I don't have a Microsoft account.
    The page says "This licensing type will be connected with your actual
    device, NOT your Microsoft account." I guess that means I don't need
    a Microsoft account to activate it. But what about downloading the
    installer?
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 11:33:57 2026
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    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 19:05:34 +0200, Michael Logies wrote:
    I would upload to Google NotebookLM and let the AI do the comparison: https://notebooklm.google/


    But with AI, can we be sure the document is not sent to Microsoft or
    Google?
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 13:51:15 2026
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    On 7/10/2026 1:32 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 12:09:23 -0500, sticks wrote:

    Office 2024 for $55

    <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-2024-professional-plus>

    I've been aware of Stack Social's "fire sales", but have always been
    nervous because it seemed like a substantial minority of purchasers
    get non-working licenses.

    I would guess people who mostly are not very capable, but I know if the
    code won't work they'll just send one that does. I've never had any
    problems with them.

    But I'm torn. There are a few features of newer Excel that I'd like
    to try, though they're not must-haves. $54.99 is just the cost of a
    meal at a restaurant these days, so that doesn't seem like a big
    obstacle.

    I had 2003 for years, and did have 2010 on one machine. As my documents
    and spreadsheets got more complicated it became an issue. There were difficult script workarounds that I didn't want to do. Searching for
    ways to do things or having functions or formatting that could do what I wanted, I decided to go ahead and upgrade on one machine to version
    2019. Much more function and capability and I was duly impressed. I am
    not really an MS fanboi and even used open office for some things (I
    install that for friends that need to open things), but I will admit I
    use the hell out of it and it is great software.

    One thing does worry me, though. I don't have a Microsoft account.
    The page says "This licensing type will be connected with your actual
    device, NOT your Microsoft account." I guess that means I don't need
    a Microsoft account to activate it. But what about downloading the
    installer?

    I've bought this from them 4 times now. 1-2019 and 3-2021. They send
    you an email with the necessary licensing numbers and a link to download
    the software, which I believe is <https://setup.office.com/>. It is
    super easy and you would have no problems getting it done and using it immediately. You can only install it on one machine at a time, but if
    you decide to put it on another computer, you can delete it from being
    used there and install it on the other. I think this is done on a
    microsoft account and have done it one time, but I can't remember for sure.
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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 21:49:04 2026
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    On 2026-07-10 19:01, Paul wrote:
    On Fri, 7/10/2026 8:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    ...

    While this process is not OCR, the output is just as miserable
    to look at as OCR output.

    If I ran "diff" over the two output files, it would likely be rough going, especially if the pagination was changed even a little bit.

    In Linux, I would use "meld" instead.


    It would really be better to get the docx with change bars.

    Paul

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  • From Graham J@nobody@nowhere.co.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 22:34:30 2026
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    Stan Brown wrote:

    [snip]

    But if you're suggesting I look at the document versions to see if my
    changes have been done, did that before posting. In too many
    instances, the paralegal or secretary made further mistakes in making
    the corrections I pointed out, for instance misspelling a legatee's
    name in a new way. I can point those out, and I have. But my concern
    is undiscussed changes she may have made, perhaps through
    carelessness. Some sort of diff seems the only reliable way to find
    out if she did that.


    When I did computer support some of my clients were solicitors. The
    were almost always very disorganised and completely inept when using computers. That was 10 years ago, but I doubt there has been much
    improvement since then.

    For example, in your case the further mistakes in correcting an existing mistake may arise because a typist simply re-typed the whole document
    from scratch!

    Have you raised your concerns with somebody senior? i.e. not the
    paralegal who used the computer?

    Some solicitors use a document management program, so any underlying
    Word document may contain fields which are filled from the client
    database with anything from the client's name to whole boilerplate
    paragraphs. Thus the only human-readable output format may well be a
    PDF file.

    If your solicitor can provide "before" and "after" versions of the
    document in a form which you can use, there may be a (significant) cost.

    If not, your only option may be to change solicitor, citing their
    inability to provide files for automated comparison and their propensity
    to add further mistakes when making corrections. If you go down this
    route it may be worth asking competing solicitors how they would resolve
    your difficulty - without mentioning the current firm (I think they do
    talk to each other!)

    A less costly option may be to print out all 80 pages of both the
    "before" and "after" versions, so that you and a trusted colleague can
    read them aloud together - possibly each person taking alternate
    sentences. That could take 40 hours, so it gives you a budget for doing
    the work.
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Jul 10 17:35:26 2026
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    Graham J wrote on 7/10/2026 4:34 PM:
    Stan Brown wrote:

    [snip]

    But if you're suggesting I look at the document versions to see if my
    changes have been done,  did that before posting. In too many
    instances, the paralegal or secretary made further mistakes in making
    the corrections I pointed out, for instance misspelling a legatee's
    name in  a new way. I can point those out, and I have. But my concern
    is undiscussed changes she may have made, perhaps through
    carelessness. Some sort of diff seems the only reliable way to find
    out if she did that.


    When I did computer support some of my clients were solicitors.  The
    were almost always very disorganised and completely inept when using computers.  That was 10 years ago, but I doubt there has been much improvement since then.

    For example, in your case the further mistakes in correcting an existing mistake may arise because a typist simply re-typed the whole document
    from scratch!

    Have you raised your concerns with somebody senior?  i.e. not the
    paralegal who used the computer?

    Some solicitors use a document management program, so any underlying
    Word document may contain fields which are filled from the client
    database with anything from the client's name to whole boilerplate paragraphs.  Thus the only human-readable output format may well be a
    PDF file.

    If your solicitor can provide "before" and "after" versions of the
    document in a form which you can use, there may be a (significant) cost.

    If not, your only option may be to change solicitor, citing their
    inability to provide files for automated comparison and their propensity
    to add further mistakes when making corrections.  If you go down this
    route it may be worth asking competing solicitors how they would resolve your difficulty - without mentioning the current firm (I think they do
    talk to each other!)

    A less costly option may be to print out all 80 pages of both the
    "before" and "after" versions, so that you and a trusted colleague can
    read them aloud together - possibly each person taking alternate sentences.  That could take 40 hours, so it gives you a budget for doing the work.


    Maybe quit working for lawyers would be less stressful? They will
    always draw you into their world of deceit. If you walk into it with
    your eyes open, you deserve what you get.


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