On 19/11/2025 2:10 am, David B. wrote:
On 18/11/2025 15:02, David B. wrote:
On 18/11/2025 14:54, David B. wrote:
[....]
They are absolutely *NOT* the same at all!!!!
Apologies - I was being lazy!
https://i.postimg.cc/L5m4T6N0/Screenshot-2025-11-18-at-15-07-45.png
That's the chart!
HTH
Yes, thank you. I had thought Chrome was an Apple OS made for a
phone .... so I was half right .... sort of!!
Automotive Grade Linux (AGL) is found in vehicles by Toyota, Subaru, Mercedes‑Benz, Ford, GM, Tesla, and I am sure more.
I was out and about yesterday afternoon and pulled up into a local Supermarket car-park near a string of about six Tesla Car re-chargers
.... but there was a MG plugged in getting Re-charged.
I'd never thought about this before but I was expecting Tesla branded car-chargers to only recharge Tesla branded cars but, apparently that is
not the case. I spoke to the cars owners for a couple of minutes and
they said there were at least two different types of Chargers that they
knew of.
Who would have thought!!
On 22/11/2025 10:19 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
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Automotive Grade Linux (AGL) is found in vehicles by Toyota, Subaru,As you mention Tesla ....
Mercedes‑Benz, Ford, GM, Tesla, and I am sure more.
I was out and about yesterday afternoon and pulled up into a local Supermarket car-park near a string of about six Tesla Car re-chargers
.... but there was a MG plugged in getting Re-charged.
I'd never thought about this before but I was expecting Tesla branded car-chargers to only recharge Tesla branded cars but, apparently that is
not the case. I spoke to the cars owners for a couple of minutes and
they said there were at least two different types of Chargers that they
knew of.
Who would have thought!!
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On a side note, to have fun, I was in a store a while back and saw next to the
check out "USB Car Chargers". I asked the cashier how long it takes a USB Car Charger to charge a car? She thought for a minute and said she should ask her manager because she was not sure.
I stopped her to let her know I was joking. Some people just are... special!
I'd never thought about this before but I was expecting Tesla branded >car-chargers to only recharge Tesla branded cars but, apparently that is
not the case. I spoke to the cars owners for a couple of minutes and
they said there were at least two different types of Chargers that they
knew of.
Who would have thought!!
On 2025-12-01, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I was out and about yesterday afternoon and pulled up into a local
Supermarket car-park near a string of about six Tesla Car re-chargers
.... but there was a MG plugged in getting Re-charged.
I'd never thought about this before but I was expecting Tesla branded
car-chargers to only recharge Tesla branded cars but, apparently that is
not the case. I spoke to the cars owners for a couple of minutes and
they said there were at least two different types of Chargers that they
knew of.
Who would have thought!!
1) in the EU, the commission made Tesla open the charging network
to others.
2) in the USA, Ford, GM and VolksWagen (I think) made a deal with Tesla
to switch to the Tesla interface standard beginning with
(I think) the 2026 model year
As a result, firmware uddates and plug adapters are now available.
Some Tesla chargers now have more than one type of plug.
But there are many variations. In some cases only "Level 2"
charging is available from the "wrong" type or brand of charging
station. That is only 8 kW ... roughly 30 miles of range per charging
hour.
In other words, while Linux distros can market themselves as unique, most of the choices boil down to packaging and superficial design rather than fundamental differences in how users interact with the system. Even things like X11 or not... most users won’t care or know.
On 2025-11-21 23:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
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In other words, while Linux distros can market themselves as unique, most of >> the choices boil down to packaging and superficial design rather than
fundamental differences in how users interact with the system. Even things >> like X11 or not... most users won’t care or know.
There are nuances like using systemd or not, wayland or not, pulse or
not. And containers.
On Dec 3, 2025 at 6:07:43 AM MST, ""Carlos E.R."" wrote <v9p50mx1q1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
On 2025-11-21 23:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
...
In other words, while Linux distros can market themselves as unique, most of
the choices boil down to packaging and superficial design rather than
fundamental differences in how users interact with the system. Even things >>> like X11 or not... most users won’t care or know.
There are nuances like using systemd or not, wayland or not, pulse or
not. And containers.
Help educate me. For the average user how much difference does this make?
On 2025-12-03 14:27, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Dec 3, 2025 at 6:07:43 AM MST, ""Carlos E.R."" wrote
<v9p50mx1q1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
On 2025-11-21 23:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
...
In other words, while Linux distros can market themselves as unique, most of
the choices boil down to packaging and superficial design rather than
fundamental differences in how users interact with the system. Even things >>>> like X11 or not... most users won’t care or know.
There are nuances like using systemd or not, wayland or not, pulse or
not. And containers.
Help educate me. For the average user how much difference does this make?
Well, for instance wayland doesn't work in my vmware, because my vmware doesn't support 3D graphics in hardware. Wayland is still not finished
and is problematic.
Whether those things matter for a plain user or not, varies, but they
are not cosmetic or superficial features.
On Dec 3, 2025 at 6:56:11 AM MST, ""Carlos E.R."" wrote <r4s50mx3vl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
Well, for instance wayland doesn't work in my vmware, because my vmware
doesn't support 3D graphics in hardware. Wayland is still not finished
and is problematic.
Fair. Yeah, that clearly would be an issue for some.
Whether those things matter for a plain user or not, varies, but they
are not cosmetic or superficial features.
I used to use Linux a lot more. Now just dipping my toes back in with a VM (Parallels on macOS). It runs well and, I think, is OK with Wayland, but of course it is not cheap.
On 4/12/2025 4:28 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Dec 3, 2025 at 6:56:11 AM MST, ""Carlos E.R."" wrote
<r4s50mx3vl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
<Snip>
Sorry. What?? "Linux" is not cheap?? .... or "Parallels" is notWell, for instance wayland doesn't work in my vmware, because my vmware
doesn't support 3D graphics in hardware. Wayland is still not finished
and is problematic.
Fair. Yeah, that clearly would be an issue for some.
Whether those things matter for a plain user or not, varies, but they
are not cosmetic or superficial features.
I used to use Linux a lot more. Now just dipping my toes back in with
a VM
(Parallels on macOS). It runs well and, I think, is OK with Wayland,
but of
course it is not cheap.
cheap?? ...... or "Wayland" is not cheap??
On 4/12/2025 4:28 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Dec 3, 2025 at 6:56:11 AM MST, ""Carlos E.R."" wrote
<r4s50mx3vl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
<Snip>
Sorry. What?? "Linux" is not cheap?? .... or "Parallels" is not cheap?? ...... or "Wayland" is not cheap??Well, for instance wayland doesn't work in my vmware, because my vmware
doesn't support 3D graphics in hardware. Wayland is still not finished
and is problematic.
Fair. Yeah, that clearly would be an issue for some.
Whether those things matter for a plain user or not, varies, but they
are not cosmetic or superficial features.
I used to use Linux a lot more. Now just dipping my toes back in with a VM >> (Parallels on macOS). It runs well and, I think, is OK with Wayland, but of >> course it is not cheap.
On Dec 9, 2025 at 5:16:42 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote <10h93vd$q8q7$1@dont-email.me>:
On 4/12/2025 4:28 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Dec 3, 2025 at 6:56:11 AM MST, ""Carlos E.R."" wrote
<r4s50mx3vl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
<Snip>
Sorry. What?? "Linux" is not cheap?? .... or "Parallels" is notWell, for instance wayland doesn't work in my vmware, because my
vmware doesn't support 3D graphics in hardware. Wayland is still
not finished and is problematic.
Fair. Yeah, that clearly would be an issue for some.
Whether those things matter for a plain user or not, varies, but
they are not cosmetic or superficial features.
I used to use Linux a lot more. Now just dipping my toes back in
with a VM (Parallels on macOS). It runs well and, I think, is OK
with Wayland, but of course it is not cheap.
cheap?? ...... or "Wayland" is not cheap??
Parallels.
At 09 Dec 2025 13:56:32 GMT, Brock McNuggets
<brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 9, 2025 at 5:16:42 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote
<10h93vd$q8q7$1@dont-email.me>:
On 4/12/2025 4:28 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Dec 3, 2025 at 6:56:11 AM MST, ""Carlos E.R."" wrote
<r4s50mx3vl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
<Snip>
Sorry. What?? "Linux" is not cheap?? .... or "Parallels" is notWell, for instance wayland doesn't work in my vmware, because my
vmware doesn't support 3D graphics in hardware. Wayland is still
not finished and is problematic.
Fair. Yeah, that clearly would be an issue for some.
Whether those things matter for a plain user or not, varies, but
they are not cosmetic or superficial features.
I used to use Linux a lot more. Now just dipping my toes back in
with a VM (Parallels on macOS). It runs well and, I think, is OK
with Wayland, but of course it is not cheap.
cheap?? ...... or "Wayland" is not cheap??
Parallels.
So use utm?
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