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I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what
toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?
tschus
pyotr
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On Wed, 11/26/2025 9:23 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?
tschus
pyotr

Setup : System : Notifications : Additional Settings
__
|__| Show the Windows welcome experience after updates and when signed in to show what's new and suggested
__
|__| Suggest ways to get the most out of Windows and finish setting up this device
__
|__| Get tips and suggestions when using Windows

You can also untick the general Notifications at the top.

Paul
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On 27/11/2025 02:23, pyotr filipivich wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?
tschus
pyotr

I think you need this:

<https://postimg.cc/w3kd09Qb>

You said "My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things
I do not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants, weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same."

You get this in search bar as far as I know but I don't get them because
I have switched it off using the trick shown in the image.




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pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11. Just be
careful of what you decide to disable. Even some items Shutup suggests
are features you may want.

Wintoys and WinAero Tweaker are other tools to tweaking Windows.
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On 2025-11-27 05:25, VanguardLH wrote:

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what
toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11. Just be
careful of what you decide to disable. Even some items Shutup suggests
are features you may want.

Wintoys and WinAero Tweaker are other tools to tweaking Windows.

I removed all or a lot of such things in my W11 virtual machine by
asking chatgpt ;-)
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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In article <78dfikh3srrks1gqs0modnug8trmj50isd@4ax.com>,
phamp@mindspring.com says...

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

In Windows 10, you looked for "News and Interests." In Windows 11, you
look for "Widgets":

Right-click on any empty space on your Taskbar.

Select Taskbar settings.

Look for the "Widgets" toggle under "Taskbar items."

On: You will see a weather icon (usually in the bottom-left corner of
your screen).

Off: The icon and news feed will be completely hidden.
--
--
Phil, London
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On 11/27/2025 6:41 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-11-27 05:25, VanguardLH wrote:

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home.  (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same.  A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what
toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11.  Just be
careful of what you decide to disable.  Even some items Shutup suggests
are features you may want.

Wintoys and WinAero Tweaker are other tools to tweaking Windows.

I removed all or a lot of such things in my W11 virtual machine by
asking chatgpt ;-)

All your questions about Windows 10, 11, and many other systems can be answered with a simple online search. I use Google all of the time. I
simply type in what I need, there is no fight with the voice to text,
nothing.
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On 27/11/2025 02:23, pyotr filipivich wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?
tschus
pyotr

All versions of Windows are for adults. The expectation is that adults
will adjust the well-documented settings to their liking. It is not
intended for children who instantly throw a tantrum about anything they
don't like.
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[Only adding to earlier responses:]

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

Was it new when you got it? If so, you didn't pay enough/much
attention when 'installing' it.

If not, see MikeS' response.
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knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 11/27/2025 6:41 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

[...]

All your questions about Windows 10, 11, and many other systems can be answered with a simple online search. I use Google all of the time. I simply type in what I need, there is no fight with the voice to text, nothing.

Very true (well, for many/most questions, not all). Especially with
Google's 'AI Overview', descriptive questions often give direct results
or at least good pointers. (Non-descriptive) Keyword searches are still possible, but are often not needed anymore, at least not as a first
step.

For example for pyotr's 'problems', a Google search on "How to turn
off news in Windows" directly gives an AI Overview explaining to use the 'Widgets' switch in 'Taskbar settings'.

I'm not an AI-fan, but in my experience Google's 'AI Overview' does a
good job, provided there's still a brain at the *other* end! :-)
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 22:25:41 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11. Just be
careful of what you decide to disable. Even some items Shutup suggests
are features you may want.

+1
--
s|b
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"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11. Just be
careful of what you decide to disable. Even some items Shutup
suggests are features you may want.

Wintoys and WinAero Tweaker are other tools to tweaking Windows.

I removed all or a lot of such things in my W11 virtual machine by
asking chatgpt ;-)

And, of course, AI is never incorrect or doles out-dated in its purposed
info from it scouring the Web which, ahem, is also always valid. AI is
never wrong (tongue-in-cheek). Plus, such online tips mandate you do
the registry edits which, of course, all users are comfortable using, or
the policy editor if you have it in your edition of Windows.

You also need to already know all the various intrusions by Microsoft;
else, you do them as encountered instead of all at once. The OP didn't
address any intrusions in particular, so I figured he wanted all of them quashed, known by him or yet unknown, and right now. Over time, you
could compile a list of your tweaks, and keep an archive of them to
refer to later, like when you need to undo them, or for another install
of Windows.

I don't having to do an AI search, read an article, do the registry
edits, as easier than using a well-known tweaker. The user still needs
some expertise in deciding what to quash using either method. They may
also have to undo their manual tweaking which means they have to
remember what they did hence having to archive the info for later
references. With O&O, you can easily see your changes, and revert.
Same with WinAero. In Wintoys, it's revert all, not individual changes.
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s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 22:25:41 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11. Just be
careful of what you decide to disable. Even some items Shutup suggests
are features you may want.

+1

While utilities like O&O Shutup can be useful to some, as has been
shown, the OP's (pyotr's) 'problems' can be solved with a simple setting
change in Settings. And a simple search *in* Settings, would have
pointed him to the Notifications part of Settings.
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On 2025-11-27 16:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 11/27/2025 6:41 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

[...]

All your questions about Windows 10, 11, and many other systems can be
answered with a simple online search. I use Google all of the time. I
simply type in what I need, there is no fight with the voice to text,
nothing.

Very true (well, for many/most questions, not all). Especially with Google's 'AI Overview', descriptive questions often give direct results
or at least good pointers. (Non-descriptive) Keyword searches are still possible, but are often not needed anymore, at least not as a first
step.

For example for pyotr's 'problems', a Google search on "How to turn
off news in Windows" directly gives an AI Overview explaining to use the 'Widgets' switch in 'Taskbar settings'.

I'm not an AI-fan, but in my experience Google's 'AI Overview' does a
good job, provided there's still a brain at the *other* end! :-)

Problem is, when it gives a wrong answer you can not argue with it.

Say you google for "A". It says there is no such thing as the A microbe.
But I am looking for the A computer, not the A microbe. etc.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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On Thu, 11/27/2025 2:11 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-11-27 16:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 11/27/2025 6:41 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

[...]

All your questions about Windows 10, 11, and many other systems can be
answered with a simple online search.  I use Google all of the time. I
simply type in what I need, there is no fight with the voice to text,
nothing.

   Very true (well, for many/most questions, not all). Especially with
Google's 'AI Overview', descriptive questions often give direct results
or at least good pointers. (Non-descriptive) Keyword searches are still
possible, but are often not needed anymore, at least not as a first
step.

   For example for pyotr's 'problems', a Google search on "How to turn
off news in Windows" directly gives an AI Overview explaining to use the
'Widgets' switch in 'Taskbar settings'.

   I'm not an AI-fan, but in my experience Google's 'AI Overview' does a >> good job, provided there's still a brain at the *other* end! :-)

Problem is, when it gives a wrong answer you can not argue with it.

Say you google for "A". It says there is no such thing as the A microbe. But I am looking for the A computer, not the A microbe. etc.

Google search

Why is the sky blue

should initiate a lengthy LLM.AI response.

Google search

sky blue error 0xC0000005

should dig up a series of web pages and there
should be less of the AI portion, if any.

The results can be context sensitive, and also have
the usual load-shedding time-of-day behavior. If Google
is ever "too busy" or the records indicate you "may
be a bot", then the quality of the results can erode.

But in terms of the web links produced, the web links
trail off into "meh" links. In the past, with pure search,
you got honest attempts at relevant links ("has most of
the search words"), and then nearer the end were the
phishing links like x7rvei8429.br as a domain.
Google today, does not give those very often.

But on the other hand, stuffing your answer-sock with
pages of little relevance (some pages having absolutely
nothing to do with the keywords), that's a kind of
"bland death" for search. The user is repulsed by the
utter garbage by page four. Whereas long ago, you
were repulsed by page four because the pages were SEO
derived, and someone had raised a page ranking by salting
the page with the English Dictionary.

Is it progress ? Only if you love those AI answers.

If Microsoft or others, ever release the agentic version
of AI (Copilot, armed with its own browser to drive around),
this will beat the web as we know it, senseless. Every
server will be overloaded. You won't be able to reach
fox news via regular browser, because there will be a
million AI reading the news at any one instant. And the AI
types faster than you do, and can be reading news articles
from two years ago of no relevance.

And that will be the end of the web as we know it. Webmasters
are already complaining about the lengths they have to go
to, to drive away AI indexing, and if you add a constant
agentic DDOS on top of that. it's all over. Dusted and done.

Enjoy the merry slop bucket, while it lasts.

Paul
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Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 27 Nov 2025 18:47:05 GMT
typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 22:25:41 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11. Just be
careful of what you decide to disable. Even some items Shutup suggests
are features you may want.

+1

While utilities like O&O Shutup can be useful to some, as has been
shown, the OP's (pyotr's) 'problems' can be solved with a simple setting >change in Settings. And a simple search *in* Settings, would have
pointed him to the Notifications part of Settings.

Thanks.

I tend to use the laptop occasionally to rarely, for things I can't
get to work on the old box. I'm already out of patience when I get it
out ... but I will set aside some time just to burrow through all
this.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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On 2025-11-27 21:05, Paul wrote:

...

And that will be the end of the web as we know it. Webmasters
are already complaining about the lengths they have to go
to, to drive away AI indexing, and if you add a constant
agentic DDOS on top of that. it's all over. Dusted and done.

Why can't the AI's read sites just once?

I suppose the google's AI should just use the google's copy of things,
not scan the world all over.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11. Just be
careful of what you decide to disable. Even some items Shutup suggests
are features you may want.

Wintoys and WinAero Tweaker are other tools to tweaking Windows.

I remember I accidently disable a feature that affected my video's input. Ugh. --
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On 2025-11-27 12:14, Philip Herlihy wrote:

In article <78dfikh3srrks1gqs0modnug8trmj50isd@4ax.com>,
phamp@mindspring.com says...

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

In Windows 10, you looked for "News and Interests." In Windows 11, you
look for "Widgets":

Right-click on any empty space on your Taskbar.

Select Taskbar settings.

Look for the "Widgets" toggle under "Taskbar items."

On: You will see a weather icon (usually in the bottom-left corner of
your screen).

Off: The icon and news feed will be completely hidden.

And therein lies the problem, how to get the national (UK in my case)
weather and news headlines, and NOTHING ELSE! Unfortunately, I don't
think it's possible, so I just disable the lot.
--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk

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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Google search

Why is the sky blue

should initiate a lengthy LLM.AI response.

Actually only a 7 line summary and 9 lines of more detail. Only more
if you 'Dive deeper in AI mode'.

[...]
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Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-11-27 12:14, Philip Herlihy wrote:

In article <78dfikh3srrks1gqs0modnug8trmj50isd@4ax.com>, phamp@mindspring.com says...

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

In Windows 10, you looked for "News and Interests." In Windows 11, you
look for "Widgets":

Right-click on any empty space on your Taskbar.

Select Taskbar settings.

Look for the "Widgets" toggle under "Taskbar items."

On: You will see a weather icon (usually in the bottom-left corner of
your screen).

Off: The icon and news feed will be completely hidden.

And therein lies the problem, how to get the national (UK in my case) weather and news headlines, and NOTHING ELSE! Unfortunately, I don't
think it's possible, so I just disable the lot.

I have never used these (MSN) Widgets, but just now have enabled them
and I think you can (nearly) get what you want.

The widget panes all have '...' icons for settings (hover over the top
right for those which do not show '...'). You can either hide or delete
the ones you don't want. So you hide/delete all but weather and news.

In news (your avatar/torso in the upper-right -> 'Show more' (? 'Meer weergeven' in Dutch)) you can select the news categories (opens feed/personalize page in browser).

I don;t know if you can get headlines-only. Perhaps someone who uses
MSN can fill you in on that.

Hope this helps.
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-11-27 16:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 11/27/2025 6:41 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

[...]

All your questions about Windows 10, 11, and many other systems can be
answered with a simple online search. I use Google all of the time. I
simply type in what I need, there is no fight with the voice to text,
nothing.

Very true (well, for many/most questions, not all). Especially with Google's 'AI Overview', descriptive questions often give direct results
or at least good pointers. (Non-descriptive) Keyword searches are still possible, but are often not needed anymore, at least not as a first
step.

For example for pyotr's 'problems', a Google search on "How to turn
off news in Windows" directly gives an AI Overview explaining to use the 'Widgets' switch in 'Taskbar settings'.

I'm not an AI-fan, but in my experience Google's 'AI Overview' does a good job, provided there's still a brain at the *other* end! :-)

Problem is, when it gives a wrong answer you can not argue with it.

Say you google for "A". It says there is no such thing as the A microbe.
But I am looking for the A computer, not the A microbe. etc.

Note that I said "descriptive questions", so in your example, one
wouldn't say just "<A>" (not literal 'A'), but at least "<A> computer",
but even that's not really descriptive, is it?
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On 2025-11-28 16:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-11-27 12:14, Philip Herlihy wrote:

In article <78dfikh3srrks1gqs0modnug8trmj50isd@4ax.com>,
phamp@mindspring.com says...

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

In Windows 10, you looked for "News and Interests." In Windows 11, you
look for "Widgets":

Right-click on any empty space on your Taskbar.

Select Taskbar settings.

Look for the "Widgets" toggle under "Taskbar items."

On: You will see a weather icon (usually in the bottom-left corner of
your screen).

Off: The icon and news feed will be completely hidden.

And therein lies the problem, how to get the national (UK in my case)
weather and news headlines, and NOTHING ELSE! Unfortunately, I don't
think it's possible, so I just disable the lot.

I have never used these (MSN) Widgets, but just now have enabled them
and I think you can (nearly) get what you want.

The widget panes all have '...' icons for settings (hover over the top right for those which do not show '...'). You can either hide or delete
the ones you don't want. So you hide/delete all but weather and news.

In news (your avatar/torso in the upper-right -> 'Show more' (? 'Meer weergeven' in Dutch)) you can select the news categories (opens feed/personalize page in browser).

I don;t know if you can get headlines-only. Perhaps someone who uses
MSN can fill you in on that.

Hope this helps.

Thanks, can't test it right now, but will give it a go later and report
back.
--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk

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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as
pop ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room(
but that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no
idea what toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?

Use O&O Shutup to eliminate advertising in Windows 10/11. Just be
careful of what you decide to disable. Even some items Shutup
suggests are features you may want.

Wintoys and WinAero Tweaker are other tools to tweaking Windows.

I remember I accidently disable a feature that affected my video's
input. Ugh.

I think it was Belarc Advisor that told me to switch from SSL to FIPS
for a more secure connection. The next day I could not connect to any
HTTPS web sites. Since the change was recent, I remembered it, undid
it, and HTTPS worked again. Shutup, WinAero, and Wintoys have the
option to reset to defaults. The first two let you undo by tweak.
WinToys is a reset to defaults on all its settings.

Not all tweaks are desirable or safe whether they are presented in a
tweaker tool, or some online article regardless of source reputation on
how to commit the same tweak. When you go tweaking via registry whether manually or by tool, you're taking the role of sysadmin, not a user
poking around in the config wizards.
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On Fri, 11/28/2025 10:19 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Google search

Why is the sky blue

should initiate a lengthy LLM.AI response.

Actually only a 7 line summary and 9 lines of more detail. Only more
if you 'Dive deeper in AI mode'.

[...]

Standard disclaimer

"Posters make mistakes.

Always verify what a poster tells you.
"

The same flavor of warning that comes with LLM-AI :-)

Paul
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On 2025-11-28 17:02, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-11-27 16:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 11/27/2025 6:41 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

[...]

All your questions about Windows 10, 11, and many other systems can be >>>> answered with a simple online search. I use Google all of the time. I >>>> simply type in what I need, there is no fight with the voice to text,
nothing.

Very true (well, for many/most questions, not all). Especially with
Google's 'AI Overview', descriptive questions often give direct results
or at least good pointers. (Non-descriptive) Keyword searches are still
possible, but are often not needed anymore, at least not as a first
step.

For example for pyotr's 'problems', a Google search on "How to turn
off news in Windows" directly gives an AI Overview explaining to use the >>> 'Widgets' switch in 'Taskbar settings'.

I'm not an AI-fan, but in my experience Google's 'AI Overview' does a >>> good job, provided there's still a brain at the *other* end! :-)

Problem is, when it gives a wrong answer you can not argue with it.

Say you google for "A". It says there is no such thing as the A microbe.
But I am looking for the A computer, not the A microbe. etc.

Note that I said "descriptive questions", so in your example, one
wouldn't say just "<A>" (not literal 'A'), but at least "<A> computer",
but even that's not really descriptive, is it?

"A" in my example is a name. Say, "x", "y", or "z" :-)
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> on Thu, 27 Nov 2025 13:11:25 +0000 typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 27/11/2025 02:23, pyotr filipivich wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

My major issue is that it keeps wanting to notify me of things I do
not care about (sport, news, movies, streaming movies, restaurants,
weather in Taipei, special offers on the latest crap) as well as pop
ups for more of the same. A cross between AOL and Romper Room( but
that was intentionally for kids and educational), I have no idea what
toddlers are watching on their tablets these days.

Are there ways to turn off the fru-fru gibberish, or am I stuck in
clown world?
tschus
pyotr

All versions of Windows are for adults. The expectation is that adults
will adjust the well-documented settings to their liking. It is not
intended for children who instantly throw a tantrum about anything they >don't like.

In other words: Microsoft knowing better than Users what they
really, treats them all as children.
The default assumption is that people mostly want to be
entertained by fru-fru, and aren't actually intending to use the
machine.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 27 Nov 2025 15:29:23 GMT
typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

[Only adding to earlier responses:]

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

Was it new when you got it? If so, you didn't pay enough/much
attention when 'installing' it.

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the
Pro mode.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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On 11/29/2025 11:34 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 27 Nov 2025 15:29:23 GMT
typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

[Only adding to earlier responses:]

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

Was it new when you got it? If so, you didn't pay enough/much
attention when 'installing' it.

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the
Pro mode.

lots of info online to do this. Just Google
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pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

In other words: Microsoft knowing better than Users what they
really, treats them all as children.
The default assumption is that people mostly want to be
entertained by fru-fru, and aren't actually intending to use the
machine.

Well, what do you think all the investment into AI is about?
Handholding boobs that can't do their own searches, or even look into
the configuration settings of programs they chose to install. Besides
all the ads, I also disabled Copilot crap.

While Home users don't get the policy editor for many of these settings
(some are per-app within the app), all policies are registry edits.
Registry editing to customize Windows has been around since the registry database first appeared back in Windows 95. And you're just complaining
now about Windows not tailored to your specific desires? There have
always been online articles on how to tweak Windows, but you didn't
bother to look. Tweakers roll up a plethora of tweaks, and eliminate
you having to do registry edits.

Now you have to visit all those programs you installed to see which ones
don't behave how you want, and what options the devs gave you, like for
the web browser. It doesn't stop with just tweaking Windows.
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pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>:

<fluff snipped from attribution line>

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one. If I had known the
foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the Pro mode.

Never got bothered with the S edition. No point in restricting myself.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-and-windows-11-in-s-mode-faq-851057d6-1ee9-b9e5-c30b-93baebeebc85
"If you're blocked from switching and your device belongs to an
organization, check with your administrator."

Switch out of S mode
ms-windows-store://switchwindows

Looks like you don't even need to install an app. The store somehow
makes the change.

Assuming it wasn't your choice in the first place, how did you get stuck
with the S edition? You're trying to hack a company asset? You mention "Student", but I don't remember "S" stood for academic licenses. Your
school store stuck you with an S version? Did you buy it from them, or
did you hack their asset? Switching out of S mode is very easy --
unless it isn't your computer.

Since switching out of S mode is free, and easy. You already had the
Home edition available with the S limitation. No need for Pro to get
out of S mode.
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On 29/11/2025 16:34, pyotr filipivich wrote:

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the
Pro mode.

So the self-proclaimed "adult" was unable to understand what Win 11-S
entailed let alone the trivial method to revert it to Win 11-Home.
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On 11/29/2025 9:34 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 27 Nov 2025 15:29:23 GMT
typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

[Only adding to earlier responses:]

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have a laptop with Win11 home. (It was cheap)

Was it new when you got it? If so, you didn't pay enough/much
attention when 'installing' it.

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the
Pro mode.

Win 11 for students(edu edition) is not Win 11S
Win 11 for students(edu edition) in S mode is Win 11 SE (Student
Edition, S Mode)
Win 11 SE is only available and preinstalled on OEM built/sold
devices(for the edu market)

Win 11 S is only available in Windows Home edition
--
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> on Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:33:12 +0000 typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 29/11/2025 16:34, pyotr filipivich wrote:

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the
Pro mode.

So the self-proclaimed "adult" was unable to understand what Win 11-S >entailed let alone the trivial method to revert it to Win 11-Home.

Quite the condescension there, eh no?
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> on Sat, 29 Nov 2025 14:21:50 -0600 typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

Assuming it wasn't your choice in the first place, how did you get stuck >with the S edition?

"Such a deal" and if I apply for the Amazon card, I get a $100
gift card. $29,95 delivered.

Switching out of S mode is very easy --

if you know that it must be done and what do about it.

There are two programs I use constantly, and I wanted to install a 'proprietary program I wrote myself.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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On Sun, 11/30/2025 10:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> on Sat, 29 Nov 2025 14:21:50 -0600 typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

Assuming it wasn't your choice in the first place, how did you get stuck
with the S edition?

"Such a deal" and if I apply for the Amazon card, I get a $100
gift card. $29,95 delivered.

Switching out of S mode is very easy --

if you know that it must be done and what do about it.

There are two programs I use constantly, and I wanted to install a 'proprietary program I wrote myself.

For a certain number of people, this was known while they were
planning their shopping. That the purchase of the S Edition,
required switching out of it, upon receipt.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/128622-switch-out-s-mode-windows-10-free.html

Apparently, one of the reasons the transition can jam up, is if
Windows Updates are in-progress. The machine should say it is
up-to-date on updates, before you try to switch.

Otherwise, the thread lists some possible hitches involved along the way.

And the purchase of devices with 32GB of storage, is pretty well pointless. That's just too small to be practical. When people tell you how much
is left for them to use, it's pretty damn small.

If you purchase a key for some other OS, then use that during an install,
you may be able to switch out that way too. You can use slmgr to change
license keys.

*******

When you see non-reproducible results like here, it makes you wonder.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/dftm4c/here_is_how_to_get_windows_10_out_of_s_mode/

One thing any user of computers can do, is in an Administrator terminal

manage-bde -status

If the C: drive is encrypted, the MSA is being used to hold the
recovery key on the server. By backing out of the encryption
and undoing that, that means there is one less ingredient
to foul up the process.

It's a bit like the bomb squad, knowing or suspecting
which red or blue wire to cut.

One thing I don't like about modern computers, is the
state of MOK and so on. There *might* be a means of
exporting some of that state info, before it is too late.
The Big Machine is a bit buggered now, because of too many
OSes fooling around with UEFI. And I lacked the foresight to
backup machine state in a thorough manner. I can still boot
the machine, that's not a problem, but I get "scare text"
depending on what mode I select at boot :-)

Paul
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On Sun, 11/30/2025 10:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> on Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:33:12 +0000 typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 29/11/2025 16:34, pyotr filipivich wrote:

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the
Pro mode.

So the self-proclaimed "adult" was unable to understand what Win 11-S
entailed let alone the trivial method to revert it to Win 11-Home.

Quite the condescension there, eh no?

For someone used to how the older Windows OSes worked,
the level of bomb-squad material in the new machines,
is quite awesome. It makes you want to run Linux
or something, no ? :-)

I have a simpler solution for this, and that is to
tell people to look at a different kind of machine
than the loopy ones.

Paul
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pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>:

Assuming it wasn't your choice in the first place, how did you get
stuck with the S edition?

"Such a deal" and if I apply for the Amazon card, I get a $100 gift
card. $29,95 delivered.

So, if you spend $30, and you get their credit card, Amazon gave you a
$100 gift card (i.e., you got their company scrip). Not a bad deal,
especially since you can unlock S into the Home edition -- unless, as mentioned, they somehow locked it down (i.e., it was "managed"). I got
Win11 Pro for $10 at BleepingComputer.com.

Switching out of S mode is very easy --

if you know that it must be done and what do about it.

I found out about it when reading forums where someone else asked about escaping S mode, and others answered just like here. Plus, an online
search works. That's where I just looked to find the procedure.

So, for curiosity, what was the "project" you used to unlock S?
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On 2025-11-28 16:08, Java Jive wrote:

On 2025-11-28 16:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-11-27 12:14, Philip Herlihy wrote:

In Windows 10, you looked for "News and Interests." In Windows 11, you >>>> look for "Widgets":

Right-click on any empty space on your Taskbar.

Select Taskbar settings.

Look for the "Widgets" toggle under "Taskbar items."

On: You will see a weather icon (usually in the bottom-left corner of
your screen).

Off: The icon and news feed will be completely hidden.

And therein lies the problem, how to get the national (UK in my case)
weather and news headlines, and NOTHING ELSE!  Unfortunately, I don't
think it's possible, so I just disable the lot.

   I have never used these (MSN) Widgets, but just now have enabled them >> and I think you can (nearly) get what you want.

   The widget panes all have '...' icons for settings (hover over the top >> right for those which do not show '...'). You can either hide or delete
the ones you don't want. So you hide/delete all but weather and news.

   In news (your avatar/torso in the upper-right -> 'Show more' (? 'Meer >> weergeven' in Dutch)) you can select the news categories (opens
feed/personalize page in browser).

   I don;t know if you can get headlines-only. Perhaps someone who uses
MSN can fill you in on that.

   Hope this helps.

Thanks, can't test it right now, but will give it a go later and report back.

I realise now that I was confused, because the above relates to the
TaskBar, whereas I was thinking of what appears on the LockScreen. I
don't have the TaskBar functionality enabled, and even if I do enable it experimentally I still can't find a way of getting only headlines
relating to what interests me on that, let alone on the Lock Screen
which is what I really want.

But thanks anyway.
--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk

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On 2025-12-01 12:52, Java Jive wrote:

On 2025-11-28 16:08, Java Jive wrote:

On 2025-11-28 16:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-11-27 12:14, Philip Herlihy wrote:

In Windows 10, you looked for "News and Interests." In Windows 11, you >>>>> look for "Widgets":

Right-click on any empty space on your Taskbar.

Select Taskbar settings.

Look for the "Widgets" toggle under "Taskbar items."

On: You will see a weather icon (usually in the bottom-left corner of >>>>> your screen).

Off: The icon and news feed will be completely hidden.

And therein lies the problem, how to get the national (UK in my case)
weather and news headlines, and NOTHING ELSE!  Unfortunately, I don't >>>> think it's possible, so I just disable the lot.

   I have never used these (MSN) Widgets, but just now have enabled them >>> and I think you can (nearly) get what you want.

   The widget panes all have '...' icons for settings (hover over the >>> top
right for those which do not show '...'). You can either hide or delete
the ones you don't want. So you hide/delete all but weather and news.

   In news (your avatar/torso in the upper-right -> 'Show more' (? 'Meer >>> weergeven' in Dutch)) you can select the news categories (opens
feed/personalize page in browser).

   I don;t know if you can get headlines-only. Perhaps someone who uses >>> MSN can fill you in on that.

   Hope this helps.

Thanks, can't test it right now, but will give it a go later and
report back.

I realise now that I was confused, because the above relates to the
TaskBar, whereas I was thinking of what appears on the LockScreen.  I
don't have the TaskBar functionality enabled, and even if I do enable it experimentally I still can't find a way of getting only headlines
relating to what interests me on that, let alone on the Lock Screen
which is what I really want.

But thanks anyway.

Meant to add that a search for "Win11 customis lock screen widgets"
gives the following ...

"You can customize lock screen widgets on both Windows 11 and iOS 26,
allowing you to personalize your device with useful information at a glance.

Customizing Lock Screen Widgets on Windows 11
1. Access Settings: Go to Settings > Personalization > Lock Screen.
2. Add Widgets: You can add various widgets such as Weather, Watchlist, Sports, and Traffic. Look for options to add, remove, or rearrange these widgets.
3. Rearranging Widgets: Use the six-dot control next to each widget to
move them up or down on the lock screen. You can also remove widgets
using the three-dot control.
4. Widget Suggestions: Windows may suggest widgets based on your usage.
You can enable or disable this feature in the settings."

... but I don't have an 'Add Widgets' option there at step 2.
--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk

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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 11/30/2025 10:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> on Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:33:12 +0000 typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 29/11/2025 16:34, pyotr filipivich wrote:

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the
Pro mode.

So the self-proclaimed "adult" was unable to understand what Win 11-S
entailed let alone the trivial method to revert it to Win 11-Home.

Quite the condescension there, eh no?

For someone used to how the older Windows OSes worked,
the level of bomb-squad material in the new machines,
is quite awesome. It makes you want to run Linux
or something, no ? :-)

pyotr didn't mention what his previous Windows version was, but I
'jumped' from Windows 8.1 to 11 and - while being a quite critical
person - it wasn't all that hard. So I - and apparently others - think
that pyotr's OP complaint was indeed quite whiny.

As for his S-mode 'problem', AFAIK, there was already an S-mode
version for Windows 10, so nothing new.

I have a simpler solution for this, and that is to
tell people to look at a different kind of machine
than the loopy ones.

But there are so many of them! :-) (the loopy ones)
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On 01/12/2025 12:57, Java Jive wrote:

On 2025-12-01 12:52, Java Jive wrote:

On 2025-11-28 16:08, Java Jive wrote:

On 2025-11-28 16:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-11-27 12:14, Philip Herlihy wrote:

In Windows 10, you looked for "News and Interests." In Windows 11, >>>>>> you
look for "Widgets":

Right-click on any empty space on your Taskbar.

Select Taskbar settings.

Look for the "Widgets" toggle under "Taskbar items."

On: You will see a weather icon (usually in the bottom-left corner of >>>>>> your screen).

Off: The icon and news feed will be completely hidden.

And therein lies the problem, how to get the national (UK in my case) >>>>> weather and news headlines, and NOTHING ELSE!  Unfortunately, I don't >>>>> think it's possible, so I just disable the lot.

   I have never used these (MSN) Widgets, but just now have enabled >>>> them
and I think you can (nearly) get what you want.

   The widget panes all have '...' icons for settings (hover over
the top
right for those which do not show '...'). You can either hide or delete >>>> the ones you don't want. So you hide/delete all but weather and news.

   In news (your avatar/torso in the upper-right -> 'Show more' (?
'Meer
weergeven' in Dutch)) you can select the news categories (opens
feed/personalize page in browser).

   I don;t know if you can get headlines-only. Perhaps someone who uses >>>> MSN can fill you in on that.

   Hope this helps.

Thanks, can't test it right now, but will give it a go later and
report back.

I realise now that I was confused, because the above relates to the
TaskBar, whereas I was thinking of what appears on the LockScreen.  I
don't have the TaskBar functionality enabled, and even if I do enable
it experimentally I still can't find a way of getting only headlines
relating to what interests me on that, let alone on the Lock Screen
which is what I really want.

But thanks anyway.

Meant to add that a search for "Win11 customis lock screen widgets"
gives the following ...

"You can customize lock screen widgets on both Windows 11 and iOS 26, allowing you to personalize your device with useful information at a
glance.

Customizing Lock Screen Widgets on Windows 11
1.  Access Settings: Go to Settings > Personalization > Lock Screen.
2.  Add Widgets: You can add various widgets such as Weather, Watchlist, Sports, and Traffic. Look for options to add, remove, or rearrange these widgets.
3.  Rearranging Widgets: Use the six-dot control next to each widget to move them up or down on the lock screen. You can also remove widgets
using the three-dot control.
4.  Widget Suggestions: Windows may suggest widgets based on your usage. You can enable or disable this feature in the settings."

... but I don't have an 'Add Widgets' option there at step 2.

Looks like old instructions. My Win 11 seems to combine everything in a
single entry "Weather and more".
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MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> wrote:

On 01/12/2025 12:57, Java Jive wrote:

[...]

Meant to add that a search for "Win11 customis lock screen widgets"
gives the following ...

"You can customize lock screen widgets on both Windows 11 and iOS 26, allowing you to personalize your device with useful information at a glance.

Customizing Lock Screen Widgets on Windows 11
1.  Access Settings: Go to Settings > Personalization > Lock Screen.
2.  Add Widgets: You can add various widgets such as Weather, Watchlist, Sports, and Traffic. Look for options to add, remove, or rearrange these widgets.
3.  Rearranging Widgets: Use the six-dot control next to each widget to move them up or down on the lock screen. You can also remove widgets
using the three-dot control.
4.  Widget Suggestions: Windows may suggest widgets based on your usage. You can enable or disable this feature in the settings."

... but I don't have an 'Add Widgets' option there at step 2.

Looks like old instructions. My Win 11 seems to combine everything in a single entry "Weather and more".

I think the 'Add Widgets'/'My Widgets' function is probably a 25H2
(or even later?) feature.

This video seems to show what it's all about, but the notes below it ("Windows 11 Build 22635.4870") seem to imply that it's an older feature
(my 24H2 Build is 26100.6899, so higher):

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8NkDXpiAFk>

My Windows 11 24H2 (not 25H2) system has (in Personalisation > Lock
screen):

"Lock screen status
Choose an app to show detailed status on the lock screen"

And the choices are 'None', 'ShowKeyPlus' (one of my installed apps)
*or* (not and) 'Weather', nothing else, so very limited. (N.B. I have
only a local account (no Microsoft Account), perhaps that's why I get
less (thanks heaven).)

To Java Jive: If this is the kind of thing you want - a News app showing
its 'status' of (only) headlines on the lock screen -, you may want to
have a look if there is a news RSS feed app which can do such a thing.
(In the 'old' days there were news RSS feeds which could show (only)
headlines in a browser, so an app could do the same (and some Android
apps actually do.)
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On 2025-12-01 16:49, Frank Slootweg wrote:

MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> wrote:

Looks like old instructions. My Win 11 seems to combine everything in a
single entry "Weather and more".

Same here.

I think the 'Add Widgets'/'My Widgets' function is probably a 25H2
(or even later?) feature.

Don't think so. All my Win11s are 25H2 now, and neither of the ones I
looked at this morning had anything except the option to choose "Weather
and more" on the Lock/Screen. Right-clicking any widget on the
LockScreen simply brought up the login screen, not any configuration
options. There was more flexibility for the TaskBar, but I'm back in W7
now and can't remember the details for that.

This video seems to show what it's all about, but the notes below it ("Windows 11 Build 22635.4870") seem to imply that it's an older feature
(my 24H2 Build is 26100.6899, so higher):

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8NkDXpiAFk>

My Windows 11 24H2 (not 25H2) system has (in Personalisation > Lock screen):

"Lock screen status
Choose an app to show detailed status on the lock screen"

And the choices are 'None', 'ShowKeyPlus' (one of my installed apps)
*or* (not and) 'Weather', nothing else, so very limited. (N.B. I have
only a local account (no Microsoft Account), perhaps that's why I get
less (thanks heaven).)

Pretty much the same here, only it's "Weather and more".

To Java Jive: If this is the kind of thing you want - a News app showing its 'status' of (only) headlines on the lock screen -, you may want to
have a look if there is a news RSS feed app which can do such a thing.
(In the 'old' days there were news RSS feeds which could show (only) headlines in a browser, so an app could do the same (and some Android
apps actually do.)

That might be a possibility, but ... About a decade ago I wrote a
homepage to run under localhost that displayed four BBC news feeds and
weather forecasts from the Met Office (the official UK weather bureau),
and some others, using an externally supplied script to convert the RSS
feeds into HTML links on the fly. Gradually over the intervening years,
RSS feeds disappeared, and the script would stop working because they'd
change something, 'til finally about 12 to 18 months ago the script
stopped working altogether. I'm pretty sure I could write such a thing myself, but as I've mentioned often in the past I'm in the middle of a
mammoth project scanning various documents concerning my family's
historical descent from the chiefs of Clan Macfarlane, so I put the
matter on the back burner for when I have more time, but I suspect the
RSS feeds may well have all disappeared by then anyway.
--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk

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On Mon, 12/1/2025 10:40 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 11/30/2025 10:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> on Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:33:12 +0000 typed in
alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 29/11/2025 16:34, pyotr filipivich wrote:

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the >>>>> Pro mode.

So the self-proclaimed "adult" was unable to understand what Win 11-S >>>> entailed let alone the trivial method to revert it to Win 11-Home.

Quite the condescension there, eh no?

For someone used to how the older Windows OSes worked,
the level of bomb-squad material in the new machines,
is quite awesome. It makes you want to run Linux
or something, no ? :-)

pyotr didn't mention what his previous Windows version was, but I
'jumped' from Windows 8.1 to 11 and - while being a quite critical
person - it wasn't all that hard. So I - and apparently others - think
that pyotr's OP complaint was indeed quite whiny.

As for his S-mode 'problem', AFAIK, there was already an S-mode
version for Windows 10, so nothing new.

I have a simpler solution for this, and that is to
tell people to look at a different kind of machine
than the loopy ones.

But there are so many of them! :-) (the loopy ones)

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is
like, and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant
in the least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and
once focused on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term
either), I had to resort to N150 as a search term. As that's
the processor-du-jour for low end stuff. Right now, that
will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all
to buy (using the search tools at hand). This is what happens
when the dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million
people throw away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

Paul


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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 12/1/2025 10:40 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

[...]

I have a simpler solution for this, and that is to
tell people to look at a different kind of machine
than the loopy ones.

But there are so many of them! :-) (the loopy ones)

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is
like, and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant
in the least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and
once focused on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term
either), I had to resort to N150 as a search term. As that's
the processor-du-jour for low end stuff. Right now, that
will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all
to buy (using the search tools at hand). This is what happens
when the dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million
people throw away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

As I mentioned before, $279 (well a bit more in NL), got me a
perfectly fine 'desktop': AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 5650u 4.2GHz, 6 cores, 16GB
RAM, 512GB SSD, lots of ports (5 USB, 2 HDMI and 2 Gigabit LAN). I
wouldn't call that "expensive", quite the contrary.

<https://www.bee-link.com/products/beelink-eqr5?variant=46822258213106>
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On 2025-12-01, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is
like, and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant
in the least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and
once focused on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term
either), I had to resort to N150 as a search term. As that's
the processor-du-jour for low end stuff. Right now, that
will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all
to buy (using the search tools at hand). This is what happens
when the dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million
people throw away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

The silver lining is that 10-year old high-end PCs becoming unusable for windows will make for very good low-end and midrange Linux boxes.
--
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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Paul wrote on 11/30/2025 9:13 PM:

On Sun, 11/30/2025 10:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> on Sat, 29 Nov 2025 14:21:50 -0600 typed in
alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

Assuming it wasn't your choice in the first place, how did you get stuck >>> with the S edition?

"Such a deal" and if I apply for the Amazon card, I get a $100
gift card. $29,95 delivered.

Switching out of S mode is very easy --

if you know that it must be done and what do about it.

There are two programs I use constantly, and I wanted to install a
'proprietary program I wrote myself.

For a certain number of people, this was known while they were
planning their shopping. That the purchase of the S Edition,
required switching out of it, upon receipt.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/128622-switch-out-s-mode-windows-10-free.html

Paul

Quite a bit of misinformation(old, Win 10 S info no longer applicable for Win11 S mode, jail-braking methods by-passing admin controlled Win11 SE mode(edu student edition with S mode), Win10 S vs Win11 S comparisons,
etc. in multiple search results in multiple forums, web sites, social media.

For Win11 S mode
- the device has two possible editions (Home or Pro)
- Switch out or S mode $after device setup and within a valid Windows
logon, no time-out expiration rendering switch not acceptable(the only expiration is once switched can't go back to S mode)
- requires Microsoft account to switch
- can be initiated from a Local account but only with use of an
existing MSA that was used to purchase, setup, and activate the device
- no requirement to switch upon receipt
- always ensure the device is updated with the latest S mode, Msft
Store apps, and M365(if installed) prior to switching.

For Win11 SE - Edu(K-8), admin controlled - no S mode, no switch

The op's comment about 'Secure Student' S mode may not make any sense regarding 'switching'. Lacking any other clarity from the op, it is
probably best to ignore the comment.
--
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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On Mon, 12/1/2025 4:32 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote:

On 2025-12-01, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is
like, and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant
in the least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and
once focused on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term
either), I had to resort to N150 as a search term. As that's
the processor-du-jour for low end stuff. Right now, that
will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all
to buy (using the search tools at hand). This is what happens
when the dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million
people throw away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

The silver lining is that 10-year old high-end PCs becoming unusable for windows will make for very good low-end and midrange Linux boxes.

I was specifically searching for a tablet, not a laptop.
The tablets were ARM ones, that's what showed up in a search.

Any time there are four hundred million of anything, there
is handling and labor involved. It takes people to install Linux
for users. It takes people to haul PCs off street curbs and
do something with them. There are fewer PC recyclers than there
used to be (a major one here, the building was torn down and
a condo built). The items are just as likely to go to our
chipping plant (that grinds up PCs), as to be responsibly
recycled.

One concern, is that the PCs will be left on the side of
country roads. Down near the family cottage, you could
almost furnish a house with the stuff laying on the side
of the road. You can find a number of spots with
a "fridge and sofa", and soon "fridge and sofa and PC".

The town dump won't accept electronics. They have to go
through a recycler. And if the recycler feels a PC with
no TPM "has no value", then all the motherboards will
be off to the chipper plant. They could pull all
the RAM out of them, but only the high capacity sticks
would have value.

Paul
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On 2025-12-02, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

One concern, is that the PCs will be left on the side of
country roads. Down near the family cottage, you could
almost furnish a house with the stuff laying on the side
of the road. You can find a number of spots with
a "fridge and sofa", and soon "fridge and sofa and PC".

The town dump won't accept electronics. They have to go
through a recycler. And if the recycler feels a PC with
no TPM "has no value", then all the motherboards will
be off to the chipper plant. They could pull all
the RAM out of them, but only the high capacity sticks
would have value.

Here in California, the recycling lots have an E-waste section,
where you can turn in "anything with a powercord", and state
regulations ensure proper disposals. I think there is a special
quasi-sales-tax on electronics to fund the disposal of E-waste.

Our city trash collection service also allows free pick-up of
up to 5 "large items" at a time, up to (I think) 4 times per year.
But then we live in a (small) city in the most regulated state
in the US.
--
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-02, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

One concern, is that the PCs will be left on the side of
country roads. Down near the family cottage, you could
almost furnish a house with the stuff laying on the side
of the road. You can find a number of spots with
a "fridge and sofa", and soon "fridge and sofa and PC".

The town dump won't accept electronics. They have to go
through a recycler. And if the recycler feels a PC with
no TPM "has no value", then all the motherboards will
be off to the chipper plant. They could pull all
the RAM out of them, but only the high capacity sticks
would have value.

Here in California, the recycling lots have an E-waste section,
where you can turn in "anything with a powercord", and state
regulations ensure proper disposals. I think there is a special quasi-sales-tax on electronics to fund the disposal of E-waste.

Our city trash collection service also allows free pick-up of
up to 5 "large items" at a time, up to (I think) 4 times per year.
But then we live in a (small) city in the most regulated state
in the US.

Here in The Netherlands, we have a similar scheme. Besides the bigger recycling lots, there are often smaller locations (ours is at a
children's (animal) farm) in our city). We also have a 'tax' (disposal
fee) included (not listed seperately anymore) in the sales price.

So when we buy a new fridge, microwave, etc., they have to take back
the old one.

For computers, phones, tablets, etc. that's not practical, because you probably want to still use the old one to transfer your stuff to the new
one. So I either bring that to a second-hand shop (if still somewhat
usable) or the E-waste disposal (or keep it).
was at 16% - : 28NOV2025 at 19:35: Charged 90m to ~96%. Only 5 days.

--
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California

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VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> on Mon, 1 Dec 2025 00:02:05 -0600 typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>:

Assuming it wasn't your choice in the first place, how did you get
stuck with the S edition?

"Such a deal" and if I apply for the Amazon card, I get a $100 gift
card. $29,95 delivered.

So, if you spend $30, and you get their credit card, Amazon gave you a
$100 gift card (i.e., you got their company scrip). Not a bad deal, >especially since you can unlock S into the Home edition -- unless, as >mentioned, they somehow locked it down (i.e., it was "managed"). I got
Win11 Pro for $10 at BleepingComputer.com.

Switching out of S mode is very easy --

if you know that it must be done and what do about it.

I found out about it when reading forums where someone else asked about >escaping S mode, and others answered just like here. Plus, an online
search works. That's where I just looked to find the procedure.

So, for curiosity, what was the "project" you used to unlock S?

To be honest, I don't recall. Something about setting up a MS
account and working from there.

"Next time" I'll byte the wax tadpole and just get the Pro
edition.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 1 Dec 2025 15:40:01 GMT
typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 11/30/2025 10:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> on Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:33:12 +0000 typed in
alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 29/11/2025 16:34, pyotr filipivich wrote:

New out of box, Win 11-S ("Secure Student, nothing but MS
Products allowed"). Jail breaking that was project one.
If I had known the foibles of S mode then, I'd have gone for the
Pro mode.

So the self-proclaimed "adult" was unable to understand what Win 11-S
entailed let alone the trivial method to revert it to Win 11-Home.

Quite the condescension there, eh no?

For someone used to how the older Windows OSes worked,
the level of bomb-squad material in the new machines,
is quite awesome. It makes you want to run Linux
or something, no ? :-)

pyotr didn't mention what his previous Windows version was, but I
'jumped' from Windows 8.1 to 11 and - while being a quite critical
person - it wasn't all that hard. So I - and apparently others - think
that pyotr's OP complaint was indeed quite whiny.

I jumped from Windows 7. I have long since realized that the
problems in Win7 were never going to be fixed.
I moved to Win7 from XP because I needed 64bit for class. Probably could have upgraded XP, but it was already approaching "Time to make
Logan's Run".

As for his S-mode 'problem', AFAIK, there was already an S-mode
version for Windows 10, so nothing new.

An item of which I was unaware.

I have a simpler solution for this, and that is to
tell people to look at a different kind of machine
than the loopy ones.

But there are so many of them! :-) (the loopy ones)

Standards are wonderful. That's why we have so many of them.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> on Mon, 1 Dec 2025 21:32:37 -0000
(UTC) typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 2025-12-01, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is
like, and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant
in the least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and
once focused on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term
either), I had to resort to N150 as a search term. As that's
the processor-du-jour for low end stuff. Right now, that
will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all
to buy (using the search tools at hand). This is what happens
when the dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million
people throw away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

The silver lining is that 10-year old high-end PCs becoming unusable for >windows will make for very good low-end and midrange Linux boxes.

I would have migrated to Linux, but WordPerfect doesn't have a
port. That's as far as I got in my research.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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On Fri, 12/5/2025 12:15 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> on Mon, 1 Dec 2025 21:32:37 -0000
(UTC) typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 2025-12-01, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is
like, and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant
in the least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and
once focused on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term
either), I had to resort to N150 as a search term. As that's
the processor-du-jour for low end stuff. Right now, that
will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all
to buy (using the search tools at hand). This is what happens
when the dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million
people throw away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

The silver lining is that 10-year old high-end PCs becoming unusable for
windows will make for very good low-end and midrange Linux boxes.

I would have migrated to Linux, but WordPerfect doesn't have a
port. That's as far as I got in my research.

They keep records. WINE runs some things, but if a $LICENSE is associated
with the activity, the emulation may not be sufficiently detailed to
fool a license manager of a program. And don't let the ratings in this
page offend you, as we can't tell when this was tested.

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=530

The WINE in something like Ubuntu, would not be properly configured.
You would have to turn on Multilib, in order for both WINE64
and WINE32 to be available. WordPerfect might have to run under
WINE32. Setting that pig of a WINE up, I do a *backup* of my Linux
before starting that, as I may have to roll back when I mess it up.

This is why sometimes a thing like a "gamer distro" may be a better
choice of a full fat WINE setup. Rather than starting with a
pan of unbaked bread, and trying to bake it yourself (as I usually
try to do, but don't succeed). But at least I can save you some
grief, by the Multilib breadcrumb. It took me quite a while to figure
out "how to turn on the other half". The 64-bit applications and
the 32-bit applications, would have a different command line invocation.

wine32 wordperfect mynotes.txt

Ubuntu is 64-bit (no 32-bit version). You can still (with a lot of
searching), find a 32 bit distro like a Debian, and the WINE in that would be set for "wine32" and not at all for "wine64". That would make it
"half a solution" then. That's still not a good idea. Would a gamer
distro be "pure64" or would it be "multilib" ? I would think the
latter, so older games could be supported.

I think you can tell from the length of this post (so far), as
to how much fun this is :-) There was a time, before x64 came
along, where I've managed to get this running on the first try.
Now with the winetricks, it's a lot more complicated. Like
just understanding whether I "want Mono" or "native .NET" will
cause hair loss. I confuse easily. Instructions ? What instructions ???
[Turns lights off, works in dark...] Yes, with enough Googlean
searches, anything is possible.

Paul
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On 2025-12-05 18:15, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> on Mon, 1 Dec 2025 21:32:37 -0000
(UTC) typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 2025-12-01, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is
like, and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant
in the least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and
once focused on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term
either), I had to resort to N150 as a search term. As that's
the processor-du-jour for low end stuff. Right now, that
will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all
to buy (using the search tools at hand). This is what happens
when the dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million
people throw away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

The silver lining is that 10-year old high-end PCs becoming unusable for
windows will make for very good low-end and midrange Linux boxes.

I would have migrated to Linux, but WordPerfect doesn't have a
port. That's as far as I got in my research.

There was one, long ago.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 21:21:08 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-12-05 18:15, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> on Mon, 1 Dec 2025 21:32:37 -0000
(UTC) typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 2025-12-01, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is like,
and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant in the
least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and once focused
on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term either), I had to
resort to N150 as a search term. As that's the processor-du-jour for
low end stuff. Right now, that will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all to buy
(using the search tools at hand). This is what happens when the
dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million people throw
away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

The silver lining is that 10-year old high-end PCs becoming unusable
for windows will make for very good low-end and midrange Linux boxes.

I would have migrated to Linux, but WordPerfect doesn't have a
port. That's as far as I got in my research.

There was one, long ago.

https://github.com/taviso/wpunix/releases https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/wordperfect_for_unix_for_linux/

No idea how well it works but if you're still living in the '90s a little klunkiness can be expected.

I thought Jerry Pournelle was a WordPerfect fan but he used Electric
Pencil before switching to Word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Pencil

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On 2025-12-05 23:31, rbowman wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 21:21:08 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-12-05 18:15, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> on Mon, 1 Dec 2025 21:32:37 -0000
(UTC) typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

On 2025-12-01, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is like,
and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant in the
least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and once focused >>>>> on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term either), I had to
resort to N150 as a search term. As that's the processor-du-jour for >>>>> low end stuff. Right now, that will get you some "mini-PC" items.

The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all to buy
(using the search tools at hand). This is what happens when the
dominant market forces, lose control of the market.

This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million people throw >>>>> away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.

The silver lining is that 10-year old high-end PCs becoming unusable
for windows will make for very good low-end and midrange Linux boxes.

I would have migrated to Linux, but WordPerfect doesn't have a
port. That's as far as I got in my research.

There was one, long ago.

https://github.com/taviso/wpunix/releases https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/wordperfect_for_unix_for_linux/

Interesting.

No idea how well it works but if you're still living in the '90s a little klunkiness can be expected.

I thought Jerry Pournelle was a WordPerfect fan but he used Electric
Pencil before switching to Word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Pencil

I heard of some writer using a DOS computer because it doesn't have
network, so his work can not be stolen. I would think a modern system
with the network card removed would be equally useful and more confortable.
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Cheers, Carlos.
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pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 1 Dec 2025 15:40:01 GMT
typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11 the following:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

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For someone used to how the older Windows OSes worked,
the level of bomb-squad material in the new machines,
is quite awesome. It makes you want to run Linux
or something, no ? :-)

pyotr didn't mention what his previous Windows version was, but I
'jumped' from Windows 8.1 to 11 and - while being a quite critical
person - it wasn't all that hard. So I - and apparently others - think
that pyotr's OP complaint was indeed quite whiny.

I jumped from Windows 7. I have long since realized that the problems in Win7 were never going to be fixed.

You might want to elaborate on those "problems in Win7", because
probably most Windows 7 users are not aware that there were/are any!

Anyway, if you jumped from Windows 7 to Windows 11, i.e. skipping
Windows 8[.1] and Windows 10, it is to be expected to need some time to
adjust, so that once more indicates that your OP was, as many have said,
quite off the mark (whiny).

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