• File History

    From knuttle@keith_nuttle@yahoo.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Dec 5 10:59:59 2025
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    Windows 11 i7 Ultra CPU, 16GB of ram. No hacks to the system

    I have an external 1TB drive connected to the desktop. I set up File
    History sharing to back up to this external drive.

    However it is not backing up and the error code is that the drive is disconnected, yet I can access from the desktop that it is connected to.

    How do I reconnect the external drive to File History?
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Dec 5 10:21:49 2025
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    knuttle wrote on 12/5/2025 8:59 AM:
    Windows 11 i7 Ultra CPU, 16GB of ram.  No hacks to the system

    I have an external 1TB drive connected to the desktop.  I set up File History sharing to back up to this external drive.

    However it is not backing up and the error code is that the drive is disconnected, yet I can access from the desktop that it is connected to.

    How do I reconnect the external drive to File History?

    If File History(FH) is configured as desired(setting up File History, selecting the external drive as the source, etc.), external disk has sufficient free space, then:
    - Try a different USB port
    - Try initiating a manual FH backup
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Dec 5 13:05:59 2025
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    On Fri, 12/5/2025 10:59 AM, knuttle wrote:
    Windows 11 i7 Ultra CPU, 16GB of ram.  No hacks to the system

    I have an external 1TB drive connected to the desktop.  I set up
    File History sharing to back up to this external drive.

    However it is not backing up and the error code is that the drive
    is disconnected, yet I can access from the desktop that it is connected to.

    How do I reconnect the external drive to File History?

    The drive identifier does not match what was connected at time of setup.

    C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\FileHistory\Configuration
    Config1.xml 3768 bytes

    <Target>
    <TargetName>BAKER</TargetName>
    <TargetUrl>D:\</TargetUrl>
    <TargetVolumePath>\\?\Volume{00117126-0000-0000-0000-100000000000}\</TargetVolumePath>
    <TargetDriveType>FIXED</TargetDriveType>
    <TargetConfigPath1>Paul\WALLACE\Configuration\Config1.xml</TargetConfigPath1>
    <TargetConfigPath2>Paul\WALLACE\Configuration\Config2.xml</TargetConfigPath2>
    <TargetCatalogPath1>Paul\WALLACE\Configuration\Catalog1.edb</TargetCatalogPath1>
    <TargetCatalogPath2>Paul\WALLACE\Configuration\Catalog2.edb</TargetCatalogPath2>
    <TargetBackupStorePath>Paul\WALLACE\Data</TargetBackupStorePath>
    <TargetWarningThreshold>98</TargetWarningThreshold>
    </Target>

    In a terminal window, I can run "mountvol" and see what my
    current identifiers are. A person using a USB stick might see
    a similar "short" kind of identity.

    \\?\Volume{00117126-0000-0000-0000-100000000000}\
    D:\

    And that allows me to compare to the setting, by using the mountvol.

    You will notice my C: drive has a "richer" identifier of a GPT disk.
    Disks partitioned as MSDOS, use the shorter legacy identifiers.

    \\?\Volume{0bd6166a-0836-4041-891c-792df2c72abd}\
    C:\

    The disk drive itself, BAKER partition, has a FileHistory directory
    and the Config1.xml should be a copy of this same configuration information.

    On the drive that refuses to connect, open its Config1.xml and have a look. Since I just set this up, of course mine matches so this example does
    not expose brokenness. On the drive you've connected (that refuses
    to identify), this file will be a mis-match.

    D:\FileHistory\Paul\WALLACE\Configuration
    Config1.xml 3768 bytes

    <Target>
    <TargetName>BAKER</TargetName>
    <TargetUrl>D:\</TargetUrl>
    <TargetVolumePath>\\?\Volume{00117126-0000-0000-0000-100000000000}\</TargetVolumePath>
    <TargetDriveType>FIXED</TargetDriveType>
    <TargetConfigPath1>Paul\WALLACE\Configuration\Config1.xml</TargetConfigPath1>
    <TargetConfigPath2>Paul\WALLACE\Configuration\Config2.xml</TargetConfigPath2>
    <TargetCatalogPath1>Paul\WALLACE\Configuration\Catalog1.edb</TargetCatalogPath1>
    <TargetCatalogPath2>Paul\WALLACE\Configuration\Catalog2.edb</TargetCatalogPath2>
    <TargetBackupStorePath>Paul\WALLACE\Data</TargetBackupStorePath>
    <TargetWarningThreshold>98</TargetWarningThreshold>
    </Target>

    You can use the settings of the File History control panel to "Add a drive"
    or whatever.

    I did not particularly see a Registry dependency here. It seems
    to be using the file systems for this activity, as near as I can tell.

    Since there are also .edb JetBlue databases in each of these directories
    that hold configuration data, there could be repeats of what is in the XML, inslde the .edb . A naive edit of the .xml file may not be sufficient
    to "force the identifiers to match".

    But anyway, you can now at least check and see what the name of the
    partition is, where the File History was supposed to go. It is going to
    use the Target info in this file, to sniff for the drive.

    C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\FileHistory\Configuration
    Config1.xml 3768 bytes

    Paul
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Dec 5 13:33:49 2025
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    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    knuttle wrote:

    Windows 11 i7 Ultra CPU, 16GB of ram.  No hacks to the system

    I have an external 1TB drive connected to the desktop.  I set up
    File History sharing to back up to this external drive.

    However it is not backing up and the error code is that the drive
    is disconnected, yet I can access from the desktop that it is connected to. >>
    How do I reconnect the external drive to File History?

    The drive identifier does not match what was connected at time of setup.

    Tis a problem with USB-attached drives: the drive letter they were
    assigned in the past may not be the driver letter they are assigned now.

    https://www.uwe-sieber.de/english.html

    That guy came up with some useful USB tools, one of which is his USBDLM
    (USB Drive Letter Manager). It's not designed for use by boobs, but
    doesn't require much expertise to configure. It tries to reserve drive
    letters to USB drives, and overcome stepping atop drive letters when an
    old drive letter is currently unused, and a new USB drive attached.

    In a really old batch script where I had to ensure which USB drive I was accessing was the one I intended to access, I remember creating a
    special file that had a unique filename on the target USB drive. I
    walked through the drive letter assignments (probably using a for-loop)
    looking for the specially named file, and, when found, returned the
    drive letter for that USB drive. That was for a program where I could
    input the drive letter, or alter its config file before loading the
    program.

    For many programs, they're just dumb by reusing whatever drive letter
    was specified on their prior use, or in their configuration. They won't
    find the target USB drive by its content, and just go by a drive letter,
    but drive letter assignments are not guaranteed for USB drive. Even
    Sieber's tool could probably fail.
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  • From Philip Herlihy@nothing@invalid.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Dec 6 13:35:58 2025
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    In article <10guvi0$1hbpo$1@dont-email.me>, keith_nuttle@yahoo.com
    says...
    I have an external 1TB drive connected to the desktop. I set up File >History sharing to back up to this external drive.

    However it is not backing up and the error code is that the drive is >disconnected, yet I can access from the desktop that it is connected to.

    How do I reconnect the external drive to File History?



    I tried asking Gemini (AI) this question. It came up with these
    interesting suggestions:

    1. Verify and Re-select the Drive in File History Settings
    The most straightforward fix is often to clear the current configuration
    and set the drive as the target again.
    Open Settings in Windows (press the Windows key + I).
    Go to Update & Security > Backup (or on Windows 11, System > Storage > Advanced storage settings > Backup options).
    Under the "Back up using File History" section, click More options.
    Scroll to the bottom and click Stop using drive (or Stop backup). This
    clears the previous, broken configuration.
    Go back to the main Backup screen.
    Click Add a drive and select your 1TB external drive from the list.
    Once selected, click Back up now to initiate a manual backup and test
    the connection.
    2. Ensure the Drive Letter is Consistent
    If you plug other USB devices in and out, Windows might assign a
    different drive letter to your 1TB drive, which breaks File History's configuration. You need to assign it a static letter.
    Right-click the Start button and select Disk Management.
    Find your 1TB external drive in the list.
    Right-click the volume (e.g., the D: or E: drive) and select Change
    Drive Letter and Path...
    Click Change...
    Select a letter that is high up in the alphabet (like X: or Z:) which is
    less likely to be used by other devices.
    Click OK and accept any prompts.
    Go back to File History settings (Step 1) and re-select the drive using
    its new, stable letter.
    3. Check and Restart the File History Service
    The service responsible for running backups might be stuck or not
    running correctly in the background.
    Press the Windows key + R to open the Run dialog.
    Type services.msc and press Enter.
    In the Services window, find File History Service in the list.
    Check the "Status" column. If it's not "Running", right-click it and
    select Start.
    If it is already running, right-click it and select Restart.
    4. Reformat the Drive (Last Resort)
    If the above steps fail, the configuration files on the external drive
    itself might be corrupted. Formatting the drive will erase everything on
    it, so ensure you don't have other valuable data stored there first.
    Open File Explorer and go to This PC.
    Right-click on your 1TB external drive.
    Select Format...
    Ensure the File system is set to NTFS.
    Uncheck "Quick Format" if you want a thorough check (takes longer),
    otherwise leave it checked.
    Click Start.
    After formatting is complete, return to File History settings (Step 1)
    and set it up as a new drive.
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    Phil, London
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Dec 6 10:50:51 2025
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    On Sat, 12/6/2025 8:35 AM, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <10guvi0$1hbpo$1@dont-email.me>, keith_nuttle@yahoo.com
    says...
    I have an external 1TB drive connected to the desktop. I set up File
    History sharing to back up to this external drive.

    However it is not backing up and the error code is that the drive is
    disconnected, yet I can access from the desktop that it is connected to.

    How do I reconnect the external drive to File History?



    I tried asking Gemini (AI) this question. It came up with these
    interesting suggestions:

    1. Verify and Re-select the Drive in File History Settings
    The most straightforward fix is often to clear the current configuration
    and set the drive as the target again.
    Open Settings in Windows (press the Windows key + I).
    Go to Update & Security > Backup (or on Windows 11, System > Storage > Advanced storage settings > Backup options).
    Under the "Back up using File History" section, click More options.
    Scroll to the bottom and click Stop using drive (or Stop backup). This clears the previous, broken configuration.
    Go back to the main Backup screen.
    Click Add a drive and select your 1TB external drive from the list.
    Once selected, click Back up now to initiate a manual backup and test
    the connection.
    2. Ensure the Drive Letter is Consistent
    If you plug other USB devices in and out, Windows might assign a
    different drive letter to your 1TB drive, which breaks File History's configuration. You need to assign it a static letter.
    Right-click the Start button and select Disk Management.
    Find your 1TB external drive in the list.
    Right-click the volume (e.g., the D: or E: drive) and select Change
    Drive Letter and Path...
    Click Change...
    Select a letter that is high up in the alphabet (like X: or Z:) which is less likely to be used by other devices.
    Click OK and accept any prompts.
    Go back to File History settings (Step 1) and re-select the drive using
    its new, stable letter.
    3. Check and Restart the File History Service
    The service responsible for running backups might be stuck or not
    running correctly in the background.
    Press the Windows key + R to open the Run dialog.
    Type services.msc and press Enter.
    In the Services window, find File History Service in the list.
    Check the "Status" column. If it's not "Running", right-click it and
    select Start.
    If it is already running, right-click it and select Restart.
    4. Reformat the Drive (Last Resort)
    If the above steps fail, the configuration files on the external drive itself might be corrupted. Formatting the drive will erase everything on
    it, so ensure you don't have other valuable data stored there first.
    Open File Explorer and go to This PC.
    Right-click on your 1TB external drive.
    Select Format...
    Ensure the File system is set to NTFS.
    Uncheck "Quick Format" if you want a thorough check (takes longer), otherwise leave it checked.
    Click Start.
    After formatting is complete, return to File History settings (Step 1)
    and set it up as a new drive.

    But we were hoping the AI understood the inner workings of the thing a bit better.

    Paul
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Dec 8 15:22:54 2025
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    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Windows 11 i7 Ultra CPU, 16GB of ram. No hacks to the system

    I have an external 1TB drive connected to the desktop. I set up File History sharing to back up to this external drive.

    However it is not backing up and the error code is that the drive is disconnected, yet I can access from the desktop that it is connected to.

    How do I reconnect the external drive to File History?

    File History can not backup directly to a drive which is connected to
    another system. It can backup to a *local* drive or a network location,
    where a network location is a Network Share or a *Network* Drive. Which
    of the latter two do you use?

    Also please post the *exact* error message(s) you get.

    If it is "Reconnect Your File History Drive in Windows", then the 'Reconnecting your File History drive now' link in Settings -> Accounts
    Windows backup give a Copilot Search results which points to this
    page:

    'Reconnect Your File History Drive in Windows' <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/reconnect-your-file-history-drive-in-windows-4eecf398-5c15-bbe7-13b2-9ed4b3db8bb7>

    which tells you your File History drive has been disconnected for too
    long and how to fix that.
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  • From knuttle@keith_nuttle@yahoo.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Dec 8 12:44:09 2025
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    On 12/08/2025 10:22 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Windows 11 i7 Ultra CPU, 16GB of ram. No hacks to the system

    I have an external 1TB drive connected to the desktop. I set up File
    History sharing to back up to this external drive.

    However it is not backing up and the error code is that the drive is
    disconnected, yet I can access from the desktop that it is connected to.

    How do I reconnect the external drive to File History?

    File History can not backup directly to a drive which is connected to another system. It can backup to a *local* drive or a network location,
    where a network location is a Network Share or a *Network* Drive. Which
    of the latter two do you use?

    Also please post the *exact* error message(s) you get.

    If it is "Reconnect Your File History Drive in Windows", then the 'Reconnecting your File History drive now' link in Settings -> Accounts
    Windows backup give a Copilot Search results which points to this
    page:

    'Reconnect Your File History Drive in Windows' <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/reconnect-your-file-history-drive-in-windows-4eecf398-5c15-bbe7-13b2-9ed4b3db8bb7>

    which tells you your File History drive has been disconnected for too
    long and how to fix that.
    The external drive that I use to back up the computer is connected to
    the computer through the USB port. It has worked in the past.
    Recently File History decided the drive was disconnected. However I can
    still access the drive through the File Manager and sync the drive using Syncback.

    I can not get File Histor to reconnect to the drive
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Dec 8 19:19:07 2025
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    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The external drive that I use to back up the computer is connected to
    the computer through the USB port. It has worked in the past.
    Recently File History decided the drive was disconnected. However I can still access the drive through the File Manager and sync the drive using Syncback.

    I can not get File Histor to reconnect to the drive

    Ah, I thought that two systems were involved.

    So what happens if you just do a 'Select drive' again? Is the drive
    listed? If so, select it again (and click OK). If not, go back to the
    main 'File History' page, do a 'Turn off' and start over again.

    N.B. All the above is in the Control Panel, not in Settings.
    (Someone's AI stuff implied that some File History settings are in
    Settings, but I can't find any.)

    BTW, the Microsoft support page I referenced earlier, implies that a
    'Run now' (blue text on the main File History page) might be the only
    thing you need. Have you tried that?
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  • From knuttle@keith_nuttle@yahoo.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Dec 8 15:23:25 2025
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    On 12/08/2025 2:19 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The external drive that I use to back up the computer is connected to
    the computer through the USB port. It has worked in the past.
    Recently File History decided the drive was disconnected. However I can
    still access the drive through the File Manager and sync the drive using
    Syncback.

    I can not get File Histor to reconnect to the drive

    Ah, I thought that two systems were involved.

    So what happens if you just do a 'Select drive' again? Is the drive listed? If so, select it again (and click OK). If not, go back to the
    main 'File History' page, do a 'Turn off' and start over again.
    It appears to select the drive, but still does not change anything

    N.B. All the above is in the Control Panel, not in Settings.
    (Someone's AI stuff implied that some File History settings are in
    Settings, but I can't find any.)

    BTW, the Microsoft support page I referenced earlier, implies that a
    'Run now' (blue text on the main File History page) might be the only
    thing you need. Have you tried that?
    Run now Fails, with drive not connected.

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  • From Anton Shepelev@anton.txt@gmail.moc to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Dec 9 00:29:15 2025
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    VanguardLH:

    Tis a problem with USB-attached drives: the drive letter they
    were assigned in the past may not be the driver letter they
    are assigned now.

    Windows' native diskpart.exe can be used to assign persistent
    drive letters to USB drives.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Dec 8 18:22:12 2025
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    On Mon, 12/8/2025 4:29 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
    VanguardLH:

    Tis a problem with USB-attached drives: the drive letter they
    were assigned in the past may not be the driver letter they
    are assigned now.

    Windows' native diskpart.exe can be used to assign persistent
    drive letters to USB drives.


    https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html

    "If there is a network share on this letter, Windows XP will
    use it anyway for the new USB drive because since XP network shares
    are specific to the current user and not visible in the "System"
    context where the letter is assigned. The USB drive then
    appears to be invisible."

    There is still room for a Drive Letter Manager. It depends on
    whether you have mapped network shares or not.

    Network shares can be adhoc (set up on demand) or
    they can be mapped and connected at startup. And
    apparently that can cause a conflict with the
    drive letter assigned to the USB stick otherwise.

    Paul
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Dec 8 20:00:18 2025
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    On Mon, 12/8/2025 3:23 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 12/08/2025 2:19 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The external drive that I use to back up the computer is connected to
    the computer through the USB port.  It has worked in the past.
    Recently File History decided the drive was disconnected.  However I can >>> still access the drive through the File Manager and sync the drive using >>> Syncback.

    I can not get File Histor to reconnect to the drive

       Ah, I thought that two systems were involved.

       So what happens if you just do a 'Select drive' again? Is the drive
    listed? If so, select it again (and click OK). If not, go back to the
    main 'File History' page, do a 'Turn off' and start over again.
    It appears to select the drive, but still does not change anything

       N.B. All the above is in the Control Panel, not in Settings.
    (Someone's AI stuff implied that some File History settings are in
    Settings, but I can't find any.)

       BTW, the Microsoft support page I referenced earlier, implies that a
    'Run now' (blue text on the main File History page) might be the only
    thing you need. Have you tried that?
    Run now Fails, with drive not connected.


    Because the internal staging area is full.

    Do these two files have the same disk drive information ?
    The C: reference is to my profile and the AppData in it.

    C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\FileHistory\Configuration
    Config1.xml 3768 bytes

    D:\FileHistory\Paul\WALLACE\Configuration
    Config1.xml 3768 bytes

    My File History is set up for partition "BAKER" D: on an external drive.
    My backup drive is MSDOS partitioned and less than 2.2TB in size.
    The computer being backed up is WALLACE.

    <Target>
    <TargetName>BAKER</TargetName>
    <TargetUrl>D:\</TargetUrl>
    <TargetVolumePath>\\?\Volume{00117126-0000-0000-0000-100000000000}\</TargetVolumePath>
    <TargetDriveType>FIXED</TargetDriveType>

    Both of my Config1 files have the same information.

    My purpose in making you look at those, is to jog your
    memory regarding the history of external drive usage.
    For example, formatting D: would kind of spoil things.

    if the issue was something related to shadow copies,
    I don't think that would affect the identification
    of the drive D: as it is the destination of the
    output files and no shadow is required on D: to make
    the transfer work.

    The problem is easily resolved using the GUI of
    the File History control panel, that's not a problem.
    But we would like to be able to do this *without losing
    any history files*.

    Paul
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Dec 9 14:44:12 2025
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    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 12/08/2025 2:19 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The external drive that I use to back up the computer is connected to
    the computer through the USB port. It has worked in the past.
    Recently File History decided the drive was disconnected. However I can >> still access the drive through the File Manager and sync the drive using >> Syncback.

    I can not get File Histor to reconnect to the drive

    Ah, I thought that two systems were involved.

    So what happens if you just do a 'Select drive' again? Is the drive listed? If so, select it again (and click OK). If not, go back to the
    main 'File History' page, do a 'Turn off' and start over again.

    It appears to select the drive, but still does not change anything

    N.B. All the above is in the Control Panel, not in Settings.
    (Someone's AI stuff implied that some File History settings are in Settings, but I can't find any.)

    BTW, the Microsoft support page I referenced earlier, implies that a 'Run now' (blue text on the main File History page) might be the only
    thing you need. Have you tried that?

    Run now Fails, with drive not connected.

    As others have indicated, did the drive letter of the drive perhaps
    change over time?

    You say you can access the drive with File Explorer. Which drive
    letter does it have in File Explorer?

    Now look at the list given when you do a 'Select drive' on the main
    File History page. Is the *selected* drive letter the same as the one in
    File Explorer? If not, that's your problem and you'll need to change the
    drive letter of the external drive. You can do that from the 'Storage'
    part of 'Computer Management' (%windir%\system32\compmgmt.msc /s).

    And, as mentioned before, you should be able to start over by doing a
    'Turn off' on the main File History page.
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