• Why It's "IMPOSSIBLE" Humans Landed on the MOON | Michio Kaku

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    Join physicist Michio Kaku as he examines one of the greatest
    achievements in history through a scientific lens. In this
    thought-provoking two-hour exploration, discover why the 1969 Moon
    landing seems almost impossible when you analyse the physics, technology
    and challenges involved.

    Professor Kaku reveals the extraordinary challenges NASA overcame, such
    as navigating with just 64 KB of computer memory, surviving deadly Van
    Allen radiation belts, operating in extreme lunar temperatures and
    landing using technology that seems primitive by today's standards.

    Every aspect of the Apollo missions pushed the absolute limits of what
    was physically possible, from radiation exposure and the rocket equation
    to the fragile design of the lunar module and the psychological
    pressures on astronauts.

    But here's the paradox: if it was so impossible, why haven't we returned
    in the last 50 years? Why does modern technology struggle to replicate
    what we achieved with slide rules and vacuum tubes?

    This isn't a conspiracy theory; it's hard science examining an almost miraculous achievement and asking the uncomfortable questions about why humanity's greatest triumph remains unrepeated.

    Topics covered:

    - Van Allen radiation belts and cosmic ray exposure
    - The incredible limitations of the Apollo Guidance Computer
    - Surviving extreme temperatures on the lunar surface
    - Why we lost the capability of the Saturn V rocket
    - Engineering 'impossibilities' that worked
    - Lost institutional knowledge from the 1960s
    - Why returning to the Moon is harder than we think

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    On Tue, 12/9/2025 9:42 PM, Physics Perspective wrote:
    Join physicist Michio Kaku as he examines one of the greatest
    achievements in history through a scientific lens.

    We can take this part:

    https://youtu.be/CrHw85yeYGU

    and feed it into the summary machine.

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    You see, there's something that's been bothering me for
    years. Something that most people don't think about. We're told that in
    1969, humans landed on the moon. Neil Armstrong took that famous first
    step. Buzz Aldrin followed. The whole world watched on television. It's one
    of the defining moments of human history. But here's the thing. When you actually look at the physics, when you calculate the energies involved,
    when you analyze the technology they had available, when you

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    consider the radiation, the temperatures, the computational power, you
    start to ask yourself a very uncomfortable question. How did they actually
    pull this off? Now, before you think I'm some conspiracy theorist, let me
    be clear. I'm a physicist. I work on string theory at the City University
    of New York. I believe in evidence. I believe in mathematics. I believe
    in the scientific method. And that's exactly why this question fascinates
    me. Because when you do the math, when you look at

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    the engineering
    challenges, the moon landing seems almost impossible. Think about it. In 1969, the most powerful computer available to NASA had less computing power than
    your smartphone. In fact, the Apollo guidance computer had 64 kilobytes of memory. 64 kilobytes. Your smartphone has millions of times more memory than that. The entire Apollo program was navigated with less computational power than a modern calculator. And yet somehow they calculated trajectories to the moon with pinpoint accuracy. They navigated

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    through space. They
    landed on the lunar surface. They took off again. They rendevued with the command module in orbit. They came back to Earth. All with a computer less powerful than the chip in your car key. Now, how is that possible? Well, let
    me explain something about orbital mechanics. When you're trying to get to
    the moon, you're not just pointing a rocket and firing. You're dealing with what we call the threebody problem. You have the Earth, you have the moon,
    and you have your

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    spacecraft. Each one is pulling on the others
    with gravity. And the mathematics of the three-body problem are notoriously difficult. In fact, there's no exact solution to the three-body problem. You can't write down a simple equation that tells you exactly where everything
    will be at any given time. You have to use approximations. You have to use numerical methods. You have to run complex calculations again and again. And in 1969, they did this with 64 kilobytes of memory. Think about that

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    for a moment. Modern scientists with supercomputers millions of times more powerful still struggle with orbital mechanics. We use massive computational resources to calculate satellite trajectories. And yet NASA with 1,960 seconds technology nailed it on the first try. Well, actually not the first try. There were the Apollo 8, 9, and 10 missions that tested various components, but
    still the margin for error was incredibly small, and they succeeded every single time after Apollo 13's famous accident. They brought the

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    astronauts home safely. So, the question isn't whether the moon landings happened. The question is how. How did they overcome challenges that seem almost insurmountable? Let me give you another example. radiation. Space is filled with radiation. Cosmic rays, solar wind, radiation trapped in the Earth's magnetosphere. When you leave Earth's protective magnetic field,
    you're exposed to enormous amounts of radiation. Now, the Apollo spacecraft
    had aluminum walls. Aluminum, that's it.

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    The command module
    was essentially a thin aluminum can and the astronauts spent days in space traveling to the moon and back protected only by this thin metal shell. Let
    me tell you something about radiation shielding. To effectively block high energy cosmic rays, you need thick shielding. Lead, concrete, water dense materials that can absorb the radiation. a few millimeters of aluminum. That's not going to do much against cosmic rays. And then there's the Van Allen radiation belts. These are

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    zones of intense radiation surrounding
    Earth. Discovered by James Van Allen in 1958. The belts contain high energy protons and electrons trapped by Earth's magnetic field. And to get to the moon, you have to pass through them. Now, NASA says the astronauts passed through the Van Allen belts quickly, spending only about an hour in the
    most intense regions and that the radiation dose was manageable. And you
    know what? The math actually supports this. If you calculate the radiation exposure for a fast

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    transit through the belts, it comes out to
    something humans can survive. But here's what's interesting. In 2014, NASA released a video where one of their engineers said that we need to solve the radiation problem before we can send humans beyond low Earth orbit. He said, and I quote, "We must solve these challenges before we send people through
    this region of space." Wait a minute. We must solve these challenges,
    but we already sent people through this region of space 12 times in the
    Apollo program.

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    So, what's he talking about? Well, the answer
    is complicated. Modern safety standards are much stricter than they were in
    the 1,960 seconds. Today, we want to minimize radiation exposure as much as possible. In the 1,960 seconds, they were willing to accept higher risks. The astronauts knew they were being exposed to radiation. They accepted it. It
    was part of the job. But still, it raises an interesting question. If we
    did it in 1969 with primitive technology, why is it so hard now? Why are we acting like it's some

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    unsolved problem? Let me tell you another
    thing that bothers me. The temperatures on the moon. During the lunar day, which lasts about 2 weeks, temperatures on the surface reach 127 C. That's
    260 degrees Fahrenheit. hot enough to boil water. And during the lunar night, temperatures drop to minus 173 C. That's minus280 F, cold enough to freeze carbon dioxide. Now, the Apollo astronauts landed during the lunar morning
    when temperatures were relatively moderate, but still they were dealing
    with extreme heat. The lunar

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    surface was baking in direct
    sunlight. No atmosphere to diffuse the heat, no clouds to provide shade,
    just raw intense solar radiation. And their space suits, they had a cooling system. Yes, water cooled garments worn under the suit. But think about
    the engineering challenge. You're designing a suit that has to keep a human comfortable in extreme heat while also being flexible enough to allow movement, strong enough to maintain pressure, and light enough to be practical. and
    they pulled it off.

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    The suits worked. The astronauts didn't
    overheat. They didn't freeze. They worked on the lunar surface for hours
    at a time. It's remarkable. Almost too remarkable. Now, let me talk about something else. The lunar module, this was the spacecraft that actually
    landed on the moon. And when you look at it, it's not impressive. It looks
    like it was built in someone's garage. thin metal walls, foilike covering, spindly legs. It looks fragile. It looks primitive. And yet, this thing had
    to

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    descend from lunar orbit, land on an unknown surface, then
    take off again, and rendevous with a command module. All with a rocket engine that had never been tested in lunar conditions. All controlled by astronauts using manual controls and that primitive computer. Think about what's involved in landing on the moon. You're descending in one6th gravity. Your engine
    is firing to slow you down. You're trying to find a safe landing spot. You
    have limited fuel. If you run out before you land, you crash.

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    If you land too hard, you crash. If you land on a slope, you tip over. And
    they did this six times successfully. Every single time. Armstrong had to manually fly the Eagle to avoid a boulder field. He landed with less than
    30 seconds of fuel remaining. 30 seconds. That's how close they came to disaster. And the other missions, they all landed safely. No crashes, no disasters. Every landing was successful. Now, that's either incredible skill and luck or something else is going on. Let me give you

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    another
    example. the photographs. The Apollo astronauts took thousands of photographs on the moon. Beautiful, clear, perfectly exposed photographs. And they did
    this with film cameras. Hasselblad cameras modified for lunar conditions. Now, think about what's involved in photography. You need the right exposure. Too much light, the image is washed out. Too little light, it's too dark. You
    need the right focus. You need to hold the camera steady. And the astronauts were doing this while wearing bulky spaceacuits with thick

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    gloves. They couldn't look through a viewfinder. They had cameras mounted
    on their chests. They were essentially shooting blind. And yet almost every photograph is perfectly framed, perfectly exposed, perfectly focused. how professional photographers working in comfortable conditions with modern equipment would struggle to achieve that success rate. And yet astronauts
    in bulky suits on the moon nailed it almost every time. Now NASA's answer
    is that they trained extensively. They practiced for months. They knew
    exactly

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    how to set the camera for lunar conditions. And um
    okay, that makes sense. But still the success rate is remarkable. And then there's the film itself. Photographic film is sensitive to radiation. Cosmic rays can fog, film, create artifacts, ruin images, and yet the Apollo film survived. The images are clear, no significant radiation damage. How did they protect the film? How do they ensure it wouldn't be ruined by the intense radiation of space? These are the questions that keep me up at night.

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    Not because I think the moon landings were faked, but because I
    want to understand how they actually did it, how they overcame challenges
    that seem almost insurmountable. You see, when I was 8 years old, I saw the Apollo missions on television. I watched Armstrong step onto the moon and I
    was inspired. I thought, if we can do that, we can do anything. It sparked
    my interest in science. It made me want to become a physicist. And now,
    decades later, as I understand more about the physics, the engineering,
    the challenges

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    involved, I'm even more impressed because what
    they accomplished was extraordinary, almost miraculous. But here's what
    really gets me. We haven't been back. It's been over 50 years since the
    last moon landing. We've sent robots to Mars. We've built the International Space Station. We've launched telescopes that can see to the edge of the universe, but we haven't sent humans back to the moon. Why not? If we did
    it in 1969 with primitive technology, it should be easy now, right? We have


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    better computers, better materials, better rockets. So, why
    haven't we gone back? The official answer is money. It's expensive. There's
    no pressing need. We can do most science with robots. And okay, those are
    all valid points. But still, you think that in 50 years someone would have wanted to go back, China, Russia, Europe, private companies, someone would
    have done it by now. Unless it's harder than we think, unless the challenges are greater than we realized, unless there's something

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    about
    the moon landings that we don't fully understand. Now, let me talk about
    the rocket equation. This is fundamental to space travel. It's called the
    Seal Kovsky rocket equation after the Russian scientist who first formulated it. And it tells you how much fuel you need to reach a certain velocity. The problem is it's exponential. If you want to go faster, you don't just need
    more fuel. You need exponentially more fuel. And that fuel has mass. So you need more fuel to lift the fuel. It's a vicious

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    cycle. To escape
    Earth's gravity, you need to reach about 11 kilometers per second. That's 25,000 miles per hour. And to do that, you need a rocket that's mostly
    fuel. The Saturn 5 rocket that launched the Apollo missions was 85% fuel
    by mass. Only 15% was the actual spacecraft and payload. And they did this
    in the 1,960 seconds. They built the most powerful rocket ever made. 3,000
    tons of thrust and it worked. Every single time it launched, it worked. No catastrophic failures, no explosions on the

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    launchpad. Now,
    compare that to today. We're still struggling to build reliable heavy lift rockets. SpaceX's Starship has had multiple test failures. NASA's space
    launch system is years behind schedule and billions over budget. And yet in
    the 1,960 seconds, they built the Saturn 5 and it worked on the first try. How How did they achieve that level of reliability with 1,960 seconds technology with slide rules instead of computers, with less advanced materials, with
    less experience? The

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    answer, according to NASA, is that they
    had unlimited resources. The Apollo program cost over $25 billion in 1,962 seconds money. That's over 150 billion in today's dollars. They had the
    best engineers, the best facilities, the full support of the government,
    and they were motivated by the Cold War. They had to beat the Soviets to the moon. And okay, that makes sense. When you throw enough money and talent
    at a problem, you can solve it. But still, the engineering achievement is staggering. They

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    essentially invented the technology as they
    went along. Fuel cells, life support systems, space suits, lunar rovers,
    all of it was brand new and it all worked. Let me tell you about another challenge. Communication. The moon is about 240,000 miles from Earth. Radio signals travel at the speed of light, which means there's about a 1.3 second delay each way. So, when mission control talked to the astronauts, there was
    a 2.6 second roundtrip delay. Now, that doesn't sound like much, but think about landing on

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    the moon. You're descending. You're looking
    for a landing spot. Mission control is monitoring your fuel, your altitude, your velocity, and there's a 2.6 second delay in all communications. If something goes wrong, mission control can't help you in real time. By the
    time they see the problem and send a command, it's too late. The astronauts have to make split-second decisions on their own. And they did. Armstrong manually flew the lunar module to avoid a boulder field. He had seconds to
    make that

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    decision. No time to consult with mission control. He
    just did it and it worked. That takes incredible skill, incredible training, incredible courage. And the fact that it worked is testament to the quality
    of the astronauts and the mission planners. But it also raises a question. How many things could have gone wrong? How many potential failures were there and how do they avoid all of them? You see, space travel is unforgiving. There's
    no margin for error. A tiny leak in a space suit means death. A

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    malfunction in the life support system means death. A problem with the rocket engine means death. Everything has to work perfectly every single time. And
    in the Apollo program, with a few exceptions like Apollo 13, everything did work. The odds of that are remarkably small. It's like flipping a coin a 100 times and getting heads every single time. Possible, yes, but unlikely. Now, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying it's remarkable that it did
    happen. The engineering, the

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    planning, the execution, all of it
    had to be perfect, and it was. Let me talk about something else that fascinates me. The flag. You've all seen the images. The American flag planted on the lunar surface. And in some of the footage, the flag appears to be waving, moving in the wind. But wait, there's no atmosphere on the moon, no air, no wind. So, how can the flag be waving? Now, skeptics jump on this and say,
    "Aha, proof that it was filmed on Earth." But the explanation is actually simple. The flag had a

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    horizontal rod at the top to keep it
    extended. And when the astronauts planted the pole, they twisted it back and forth to drive it into the ground. That twisting motion made the flag wave. And in the vacuum of the moon, with no air resistance, the flag kept moving for
    a while. It's physics. Simple physics. But it looks weird because we're not used to seeing flags in a vacuum. On Earth, a flag would stop moving almost immediately because air resistance would damp the motion. But on the moon,
    the

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    flag keeps oscillating. So, the waving flag isn't evidence
    of a hoax. It's evidence that they really were in a vacuum. It's evidence
    that they really were on the moon. But here's what's interesting. The fact
    that people question this shows how counterintuitive space is, how different
    it is from our everyday experience. And that's exactly why the moon landings seem impossible because they required mastering an environment completely unlike anything on Earth. Now, let me talk about the

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    rocks. The
    Apollo missions brought back 842 pounds of lunar rocks and soil. These samples have been studied by scientists all over the world for over 50 years, and they're genuine. They're unlike any rocks on Earth. Lunar rocks have certain characteristics. They contain minerals that form only in the absence of
    water. They have tiny impact craters from micrometeorites. They have no
    signs of weathering because there's no weather on the moon. And they're
    old, really old, over 4 billion years old in

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    some cases. Now,
    could these rocks have been faked? Could they have been manufactured in
    a laboratory? No. Not with 1,960 seconds technology. Not with today's technology. We can create rocks with these characteristics. The isotope
    ratios, the mineral compositions, the age, all of it matches what we'd
    expect from the moon. So, the rocks are real. They came from the moon. And
    the only way to get them was to go there and bring them back. But here's
    what's interesting. The Soviet Union also

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    brought back lunar
    rocks using unmanned probes. The lunar program successfully returned samples from the moon three times, much smaller amounts than Apollo. But still,
    they did it robotically. So, it was possible to get lunar rocks without
    sending humans. Does that prove Apollo was faked? No. Because the Soviet
    Union, our greatest rival, confirmed that Apollo happened. They tracked the missions. They monitored the communications. They had every incentive to
    expose a hoax if it existed. and they

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    didn't. They acknowledged
    that America won the space race. That's pretty strong evidence right there. If your biggest enemy, the one you're competing against, says you won, then you probably won. Now, let me talk about radiation again because this is really important. A lot of people focus on the Van Allen belts, but there's another source of radiation in space, solar particle events. These are bursts of high energy particles from the Sunday. They're unpredictable. They can happen at
    any time and they're

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    dangerous. If astronauts are caught in a
    solar particle event outside Earth's magnetosphere, they could receive a lethal dose of radiation. It's one of the biggest dangers of deep space travel. Now, during the Apollo program, there were no major solar particle events during
    the missions. The astronauts were lucky. If there had been a big solar storm, they could have been in serious trouble. But NASA monitored solar activity carefully. They had forecasts. They knew when it was safe to launch and when
    it wasn't. And they got

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    lucky. The timing worked out. But think
    about that. They were gambling with the astronauts lives. If a solar storm
    had erupted while they were on the moon, there would have been nothing they could do. The lunar module didn't have enough shielding to protect them. they would have been exposed. That's the kind of risk they were willing to take
    in 1969 and it worked out. But it easily could have gone the other way. So
    when I look at all of this, the technology, the challenges, the risks,
    I'm amazed that

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    it worked. I'm amazed that we actually pulled
    it off. It really was an incredible achievement. But that's also why it's
    so hard to do again because we understand the risks better now. We're not willing to accept the same level of danger. We want better shielding, better life support, better redundancy, and all of that makes it more expensive and more complicated. In the 1,960 seconds, they just went for it. They accepted the risks. They pushed forward, and they succeeded. Now, let me tell you

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    something personal. When I built my particle accelerator in high
    school, people thought I was crazy. They said, "You can't do that. You don't have the resources. You don't have the knowledge. But I did it anyway. I went to junkyards and bought parts. I wound coils of copper wire. I figured it
    out. And that's what NASA did with Apollo. They had a seemingly impossible goal. And they figured it out. They innovated. They improvised. They made
    it work. That's the American spirit. That's what

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    we're capable
    of when we're motivated, when we have a clear goal and the will to achieve
    it. But it also shows how rare that kind of achievement is. How everything
    has to align. The technology, the resources, the political will, the luck,
    all of it has to come together at the right moment. And in 1969, it did. We went to the moon. We achieved the impossible. But here's the question I really want to explore. If we did it once, why is it so hard to do it again? What changed? What did we lose? And what

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    does that tell us about the
    challenge of space exploration? Because if going to the moon was impossible with 1,962 seconds technology and is still hard with modern technology, then maybe space is more hostile, more challenging, more dangerous than we like to admit. Maybe the moon landings weren't just an engineering achievement. Maybe they were a miracle, a perfect storm of talent, resources, timing, and luck that came together once and might never come together again. Or maybe, and
    this is

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    what I believe, maybe they showed us what we're capable
    of. Maybe they prove that humans can do the impossible when we set our minds
    to it. And maybe that's the real lesson. Not that it's impossible, but that it requires everything we have. And that brings me to the end of part one. We've looked at the challenges, the radiation, the temperatures, the technology,
    the risks. We've seen how unlikely success was and yet it happened. In
    part two, we're going to dig deeper. We're going to look

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    at
    the specific technologies that made it possible. The rocket engines, the navigation systems, the life support. We're going to understand exactly how they overcame each challenge and we're going to explore why despite all our modern advantages, we still haven't gone back. So, we've established that the moon landings faced extraordinary challenges. Now, the next question is, and this is where things get really interesting, how exactly did they solve these problems? What specific

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    technologies did they use? And why can't
    we easily replicate them today? You see, when you dig into the engineering details of the Apollo program, you find solutions that seem almost too clever, too perfectly designed. It's like they knew exactly what would work before
    they even tested it. And that's what fascinates me as a physicist. How did
    they get it right? Let me start with the most critical component, the rocket engine. specifically the F1 engine that powered the first stage of the Saturn 5.

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    This engine produced 1.5 million pounds of thrust. It burned
    3,000 lbs of fuel per second. 3,000 lb every single second. That's more
    than a small car. And here's what's remarkable. They designed this engine in the early 1,960 seconds. They didn't have computer simulations. They didn't have advanced material science. They used slide rules and wind tunnels and physical testing. And yet, they created the most powerful singlechamber rocket engine ever built. Even today, with all our computational

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    power,
    we struggle to match the F1. SpaceX's Raptor engines are impressive, but they produce about half the thrust of an F1. And the F1 was built 60 years ago. So, how did they do it? Well, let me tell you about the development process. They tested the F1 thousands of times. They blew up dozens of engines. They had catastrophic failures. Engines exploding on the test stand. But they kept iterating, kept improving until they got it right. And when they finally
    got it right, it worked. 13 Saturn 5

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    launches, 13 successes, no
    failures. Every single F1 engine performed exactly as designed. Now think about the complexity here. Each F1 engine had thousands of parts. Pumps, valves, injectors, chambers. All of it had to work in perfect synchronization. The
    fuel and oxidizer had to mix at exactly the right ratio. The combustion
    had to be stable. The cooling had to prevent the engine from melting. And
    they achieved this with 1,960 seconds manufacturing techniques. No computer control machining, no advanced

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    quality control systems, just
    skilled machinists and engineers doing everything by hand. It's extraordinary, almost unbelievable. But the engines exist. You can see them in museums. You can examine them. They're real. But here's what's interesting. NASA lost the detailed manufacturing specifications for the F1. Not the basic designs,
    those exist, but the specific techniques, the tricks the machinists used,
    the subtle adjustments they made, a lot of that knowledge was lost when
    the program

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    ended and the engineers retired. So even though
    we have F1 engines, even though we can study them, we can't easily build
    new ones. we'd have to reverse engineer them. Figure out how they were
    made. And that's harder than you might think. This is what engineers call
    tacit knowledge. Knowledge that exists in people's hands and minds, not in blueprints and documents. And when those people retire or die, the knowledge goes with them. So, in a very real sense, we've lost the ability to go to the moon the way we did

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    in the 1,960 seconds. Not because the physics
    changed. Not because it's impossible, but because we lost the institutional knowledge, the manufacturing techniques, the entire industrial infrastructure that made it possible. Now, let me talk about the guidance computer. The
    Apollo guidance computer or AGC. This was the computer that navigated the spacecraft to the moon. And as I mentioned earlier, it had 64 kilobytes
    of memory. That's nothing. Absolutely nothing by today's standards. But
    here's what's remarkable.

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    The software was perfect or nearly
    perfect. It had to be because there was no way to update it in flight. No patches, no bug fixes. Whatever code they loaded before launch, that's what they were stuck with. And the programmers achieved this. They wrote code so efficient, so carefully optimized that it fit in 64K and did everything needed, navigation, guidance, control, displays, everything. Margaret Hamilton led
    the software team. She pioneered many of the concepts we now take for granted in software

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    engineering. Error checking, priority scheduling,
    robust fault tolerance, all of it was invented for Apollo and the code
    worked. During the Apollo 11 landing, the computer was overloaded. It was trying to process too much data. Alarms were going off, but the software handled it. It prioritized the critical tasks. It kept running and Armstrong landed safely. That's incredible software engineering. Even today with all
    our tools and techniques, creating software that reliable is difficult. And

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    they did it in the 1,960 seconds with primitive tools. But here's
    what I find fascinating. Modern spacecraft computers are much more powerful, much more sophisticated, but they're also more complex, more prone to bugs, more vulnerable to failures. The Apollo guidance computer was simple. It did one thing and it did it perfectly. Modern computers try to do everything. And sometimes complexity is the enemy of reliability. So in some ways we've
    gone backwards. We have more powerful computers but less reliable ones. We


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    have more features but more bugs. We've traded simplicity for
    capability. And that's one reason why it's hard to go back to the moon because we can't accept the simplicity of the Apollo approach. We want more capability, more redundancy, more safety features, and all of that adds complexity. Now, let me talk about the space suits. The Apollo A7L space suit was a marvel of engineering. It had to maintain pressure about 3.7 pounds per square inch. It had to provide oxygen. It had to remove

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    carbon dioxide. It
    had to regulate temperature and it had to be flexible enough to allow the astronauts to move. Think about what's involved here. The pressure inside the suit wants to make it balloon out like an inflated tire. But the astronauts needed to bend their joints, move their fingers, walk around. So the suit
    had to have special joints, convoluted sections that allowed movement while maintaining pressure. And the cooling system was ingenious. Water cooled garments worn under the suit.

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    Water circulated through tubes,
    absorbing body heat, then passing through a sublimator that vented the heat into space. Elegant, simple, effective. But here's what's remarkable. They designed these suits in just a few years. They tested them, refined them,
    and they worked. The astronauts spent hours on the lunar surface in these suits. No failures, no catastrophic leaks, no overheating. Compare that
    to today. NASA's new space suit program has been in development for over
    a decade and is billions over budget. The suits

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    still aren't
    ready. And when they are ready, they'll be more complex, more capable,
    but also heavier and more expensive than the Apollo suits. Why? Because
    we've added requirements. We want longer mission duration. We want better mobility. We want more sizes to fit different body types. All good things,
    but all of them add complexity and cost. The Apollo suits were custommade
    for each astronaut. They fit perfectly, but they were also specialized for
    moon missions. They wouldn't work as well for Mars or for

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    long
    duration space walks. So again, we're trading simplicity for versatility, and that makes it harder and more expensive. Now, let me talk about something that really puzzles people. The lunar module. This thing looked like it was made from tin foil and curtain rods. It didn't look like it could fly in Earth's atmosphere, let alone land on the moon. But appearances are deceiving. The lunar module was actually a brilliant piece of engineering. You see, on the moon, there's no atmosphere, no aerodynamics.

    00:34:50
    So, the spacecraft
    doesn't need to be streamlined. It just needs to be functional. And the
    thin walls, that's because every pound matters. Getting mass to the moon is incredibly expensive in terms of fuel. So, they made everything as light as possible. The walls were just thick enough to maintain pressure and provide micromedoride protection, nothing more. And you know what? It worked. The
    lunar module landed six times. It took off six times. It rendevued with the command module six times. Perfect record. But here's what's

    00:35:25
    interesting. The descent engine, the rocket that lowered the lunar module to the moon's surface, had never been tested in a full landing profile before Apollo 11. They tested it on Earth in vacuum chambers, in simulators, but
    never in actual lunar conditions. So when Armstrong and Aldrin descended
    to the moon, they were essentially test pilots. They were trying something
    that had never been done before and it worked on the first attempt. Now,
    you might say they were lucky, and maybe they were,

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    but I
    think it's more than luck. I think it's a testament to the quality of the engineering, the thoroughess of the testing, the skill of the astronauts,
    but it also shows how much risk they were willing to accept. Today, we
    would never attempt something like that. We'd want multiple unmanned test landings first. We'd want to prove the system before we put humans on it. And that's another reason why it's hard to go back because our risk tolerance has changed. We're not willing to accept the same

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    level of danger that
    they accepted in the 1,960 seconds. Now, let me talk about navigation. How do they know where they were? How do they navigate from Earth to the moon with such precision? Well, they use several techniques. First, they had powerful telescopes on Earth tracking the spacecraft. Ground stations could measure the spacecraft's position and velocity by analyzing the radio signals, but they also had onboard navigation. The spacecraft had a sextant. Yes, a sextant like sailors used for centuries

    00:37:10
    adapted for space. The astronauts could
    sight on stars and use those measurements to calculate their position. And
    the guidance computer would take all this information, the ground tracking,
    the seextant measurements, the inertial measurements, and compute the optimal trajectory. It's remarkable when you think about it. They were navigating across a quarter million miles of space with a combination of ancient techniques, the seextant, and cutting edge technology. And it worked. But here's what fascinates me. The

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    accuracy was extraordinary. They
    could hit a target on the moon within a few miles. That's like throwing
    a dart from New York and hitting a bullseye in Los Angeles. The precision required is mind-boggling. And they did it with 1,960 seconds technology with limited computational power, with techniques that seem almost primitive by today's standards. Today, we have GPS, we have precise atomic clocks, we have powerful computers. Navigation should be easier and in some ways it is. But in other

    00:38:18
    ways we become dependent on these systems. We've lost the
    ability to navigate using simpler methods. And that's a problem for deep space missions. GPS only works near Earth. Our atomic clocks need to be synchronized with Earthbased systems. If something goes wrong, if we lose contact with Earth, can we still navigate? The Apollo astronauts could they had backup methods. They could navigate by the stars if necessary. That robustness is something we need to recapture. Now, let me talk about life support. Keeping


    00:38:54
    astronauts alive in space is incredibly challenging. You
    need oxygen. You need to remove carbon dioxide. You need water. You need temperature control. You need waste management. The Apollo spacecraft used chemical systems for most of this. Oxygen was stored in tanks. Carbon dioxide was removed using lithium hydroxide canisters. Water was a byproduct of the fuel cells that generated electricity. It was a consumable system. Use it
    once and throw it away. Not very efficient, but simple and reliable. Today,
    the International

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    Space Station uses regenerative systems. It
    recycles water. It splits water into oxygen and hydrogen. It scrubs and recycles the air. Much more efficient for long duration missions, but also
    much more complex. More things to break, more maintenance required. For a
    moon mission, the Apollo approach was perfect. The missions were short, just
    a week or so. Consumables worked fine. But for Mars, for longer missions, we need regenerative systems. We can't carry enough consumables for a multi-year


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    mission. So, we're developing these systems, testing them on
    the ISS, but they add complexity. They add mass. They add cost. And that's another reason why going back to the moon is harder because we're not just trying to replicate Apollo. We're trying to build systems that will work
    for longer, more ambitious missions. Now, let me address something that conspiracy theorists love to bring up. The photographic evidence. They
    say the photos are too perfect, too well composed, too professional. And
    you

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    know what? They're right about one thing. The photos are
    remarkably good. Almost every shot is wellframed and properly exposed. But here's the explanation. The cameras were specially modified Hasselblad 500
    eel cameras. They had a RAO plate, a glass plate with crosshairs etched on
    it that imprinted a grid on every image. This grid serves two purposes. One,
    it proves the photos are unaltered. Any editing would distort the grid. Two,
    it allows scientists to measure distances and sizes in the

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    photos. The cameras had fixed focus set to the hyper focal distance. So everything from about 10 ft to infinity was in focus. The astronauts didn't have to focus. They just had to point and shoot. The exposure was preset
    based on the lighting conditions on the moon. the sun, the lunar surface reflectance, it's all very predictable. So, they could set the exposure in advance and it would work for almost every shot. And the composition, the astronauts practiced. They took thousands of practice photos

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    on Earth. They trained until framing a shot became second nature. So, the quality of the photos isn't evidence of a hoax. It's evidence of careful preparation and good engineering. But here's what's interesting. We have
    the original film, The Negatives, and they show evidence of being exposed
    in space. Tiny tracks from cosmic ray hits. These are high energy particles that pass through the film and leave traces. You can see them if you look carefully. These cosmic ray tracks are impossible

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    to fake. You
    can't create them in a lab, at least not convincingly. They're proof that the film was exposed to the radiation environment of space. So, the photos are real. They were taken on the moon and the quality is due to good preparation, not fakery. Now, let me talk about something that's often overlooked. The logistics, the sheer scale of the Apollo program. At its peak, 400,000 people were working on Apollo. Contractors, engineers, technicians, administrators across the entire United States. If the moon

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    landings were
    faked, all those people would have to be in on the conspiracy. Or at least
    a large number of them would have to know. And in 50 years, not one person
    has come forward with credible evidence of a hoax. Think about that. Humans
    are terrible at keeping secrets, especially big secrets involving lots
    of people. Someone always talks. Someone always leaks. And yet, despite thousands of people working on Apollo, despite 50 years of investigation
    by skeptics and conspiracy theorists, no one has

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    produced any
    credible evidence of a hoax. The simplest explanation, it wasn't a hoax. It really happened. But let me address another common claim, the flag waving. I mentioned this earlier, but let me go deeper. In the vacuum of the moon, objects behave differently than on Earth. There's no air resistance. So,
    when you set something in motion, it keeps moving. It oscillates longer. It takes longer to settle. The flag had a horizontal rod at the top to keep it extended. When the astronauts planted

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    the flag pole, they had to
    twist it and push it into the lunar soil. That twisting created motion in the flag and because there's no air resistance, the flag kept waving for several seconds. In some of the video footage, you can see the flag moving. But if
    you watch carefully, you'll notice it only moves when the astronauts are handling the pole. When they step away, the flag continues to move briefly, then stops. Exactly as you'd expect in a vacuum. On Earth, in air, the
    flag would stop

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    moving almost immediately. The air resistance
    would damp the oscillations. But on the moon, the flag keeps moving. That's actually evidence that they were in a vacuum. Evidence that they were really
    on the moon. Now, let me talk about the shadows. Another common conspiracy claim is that the shadows in the lunar photos go in different directions,
    which they say proves multiple light sources, which they say proves studio lighting. But the explanation is simple geometry. The moon's surface isn't flat. It's uneven.

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    There are hills, craters, slopes. When light
    hits an uneven surface, shadows can appear to go in different directions,
    even though there's only one light source, the Sunday. You can test this yourself. Go outside on a sunny day. Look at the shadows on uneven ground. They don't all point in exactly the same direction. That's normal. That's how light and shadows work. So, the varying shadows aren't evidence of multiple light sources. They're evidence of an uneven surface, which is exactly

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    what the moon has. Now, let me talk about something really important,
    the tracking data. During the Apollo missions, radio telescopes around
    the world tracked the spacecraft. Amateur radio enthusiasts picked up the signals. The Soviet Union monitored everything. These independent observers
    all confirmed that the signals were coming from the moon. They could tell
    by the time delay radio signals travel at the speed of light. So there's
    a 1.3 second delay from the moon. They could tell by the Doppler shift in
    the signals as the

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    spacecraft moved. You can't fake that. You
    can't create signals that appear to come from the moon when they're actually coming from Earth. The physics doesn't allow it. So we have independent verification from multiple sources that the Apollo spacecraft went to the
    moon. Not just NASA saying it, independent observers confirming it. That's pretty strong evidence. Now, let me talk about the retroreflectors. During
    the Apollo missions, astronauts place laser retroreflectors on the lunar

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    surface. These are special mirrors that reflect light back exactly
    in the direction it came from. And you know what? You can bounce a laser
    off these retroreflectors right now. Observatories around the world do it regularly. They measure the distance to the moon with incredible precision by timing how long it takes light to travel to the retroreflector and back. How did those retroreflectors get there? Someone had to place them. And the only missions that went to those locations were the Apollo missions. So, we have physical

    00:47:29
    evidence still on the moon, still functional after
    50 years, proving that astronauts were there. Now, conspiracy theorists say that unmanned probes could have placed the retroreflectors. And technically, that's true. The Soviet Union did place retroreflectors on the moon using unmanned missions. But if Apollo was faked, why would NASA bother sending unmanned missions to place retroreflectors? That would be almost as hard
    as sending astronauts. What's the point? The simplest explanation is that astronauts

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    placed them because astronauts went to the moon. Now,
    let me talk about something that really demonstrates the challenge. The
    Saturn 5 rocket. This thing was massive. 363 feet tall, 6.5 million pounds, fully fueled. The largest, most powerful rocket ever built. And it worked. 13 launches, 13 successes, including launching humans to the moon six times. But here's what's interesting. We can't build a Saturn 5 today. Not because
    we don't have the technology, but because we don't have

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    the
    infrastructure. The factories that built the components have closed. The tooling has been scrapped. The supply chains have disappeared. We could
    design a new heavy lift rocket and we are with the space launch system but
    it would be different from the Saturn 5. It would use different engines, different materials, different techniques. So in a very real sense the
    Saturn 5 is a lost capability. We did something in the 1,960 seconds that
    we can't easily repeat today. Not because it's impossible, but

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    because we'd have to rebuild an entire industrial infrastructure. And that's expensive, really expensive, which is why we haven't done it. But this also proves that the Saturn 5 was real, that it flew, that it worked, because
    we have the hardware, we have the launchpads, we have the documentation,
    we have the photos and videos of the launches. All of that exists. It's
    not a hoax. It's history. Now, let me talk about Apollo 13. This is
    actually one of the strongest pieces of evidence that the

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    moon
    landings were real. Because if you're faking missions, why would you fake
    a failure? Apollo 13 suffered an explosion in the oxygen tanks. The mission
    had to be aborted. The astronauts barely made it home alive. It was a near disaster that could have been a tragedy. If NASA was faking the missions,
    they would have faked a success, not a failure. They wouldn't have risked the negative publicity, the questions, the investigations. But Apollo 13 really happened. The explosion was real, the emergency was real, and

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    the successful return of the astronauts was real. And you know what? The
    way they solved the problem demonstrates the reality of spaceflight. They
    had to improvise. They had to use duct tape and cardboard to adapt the air scrubbers. They had to conserve power. They had to manually navigate using
    the stars and the Earth's horizon. All of those problems and the solutions are completely consistent with real space flight. They're the kinds of challenges you'd face in space. And the solutions

    00:51:02
    are the kinds of clever
    improvisations that real engineers and astronauts would come up with. You
    can't fake that level of detail. You can't script those kinds of realistic problems and solutions. They had to be real. So Apollo 13 actually proves
    that the moon missions were real because a hoax wouldn't include a near
    fatal failure. Now, let me address the radiation question one more time
    because it's really important. A lot of people focus on the Van Allen belts, but the Apollo spacecraft passed

    00:51:36
    through the belts quickly in
    about an hour, and they passed through the thinner regions of the belts,
    not the most intense parts. The total radiation dose the astronauts received from the Van Allen belts was relatively small. Estimates range from 1 to 10
    rem depending on the mission. That's comparable to a few years of natural background radiation on Earth. Not safe, certainly not something you'd want to do repeatedly, but survivable. And in fact, the astronauts did survive. They didn't

    00:52:08
    suffer radiation sickness. They didn't die young from
    cancer at higher rates than the general population. So, the radiation was a risk, but it was a manageable risk, and they managed it. But here's what's interesting. Modern spacecraft would use different trajectories. They'd
    spend less time in the belts. They'd use better shielding. They'd have
    better radiation monitoring. Not because it's impossible to transit the Van Allen belts, but because we can do it safer now. We don't have to accept


    00:52:37
    the same level of risk. And that's another reason why is
    harder to go back because we're not willing to cut corners the way they
    did in the 1,960 seconds. Now, let me talk about the lunar samples. 842
    lbs of rocks and soil. These samples have been studied by scientists all
    over the world. Thousands of scientific papers have been published based
    on these samples. And the samples tell a consistent story. They're from the moon. They formed in the absence of water and atmosphere. They're ancient

    00:53:12
    billions of years old. They've been bombarded by micrometeorites
    and solar wind. All of this is exactly what we'd expect from the moon. And
    it's impossible to fake. We don't have the technology to create fake lunar rocks that would fool every scientist who studied them for 50 years. So,
    the rocks are real. They came from the moon. And the only way to get them
    was to go there. But here's what really convinces me. The samples from different Apollo missions are different. The rocks from

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    the
    highlands are different from the rocks from the Maria. The soil composition varies from sight to sight. If you were faking samples, you'd probably make them all similar. But the real samples show the geological diversity of
    the moon. Different regions have different compositions, different ages, different histories. That level of detail is impossible to fake. You'd have to know in advance what each region of the moon was like. And we didn't know that before Apollo. We learned it from

    00:54:13
    Apollo. So, the diversity of
    the samples proves they're real. And that proves the missions were real. Now, let me talk about something that really demonstrates the impossibility and
    the possibility of the moon landings. The timing. President Kennedy announced the moon goal in 1961. We landed on the moon in 1969. 8 years. We went from barely able to put a man in orbit to landing on the moon in eight years. Think about that. In 1961, the United States had put exactly one person in space, Alan Shepard, for 15 minutes.

    00:54:53
    We never done a spacew walk. We
    never docked two spacecraft. We never spent more than a day in space. And eight years later, we landed on the moon. That's an incredibly short time frame. It seems impossible. And in many ways, it was impossible. They had to invent almost everything from scratch. But they did it. How? unlimited resources, political will, the best minds in the country, and a deadline. That deadline was crucial. Kennedy said we'd do it before the end of the decade. That gave


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    them a concrete goal, a ticking clock, and nothing motivates
    like a deadline. Today, we don't have that. We have ambitious goals, but no hard deadlines, no national commitment, no sense of urgency. And that's why it's taking so long to go back. Not because it's harder technologically, but because we don't have the same focus, the same resources, the same political will. So, in the end, when I look at all the evidence, the engineering,
    the physics, the documentation, the independent

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    verification,
    I'm convinced the moon landings happened. They were real. But I'm also amazed because they really were impossible, or they should have been. The challenges were enormous. The risks were extreme. The technology was primitive. And yet they succeeded through brilliant engineering, meticulous planning, incredible skill, and yes, some luck. They achieved the impossible. And that brings me
    to part three, where we're going to explore the biggest question of all. If
    we did it once, why haven't we done it again? What

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    does that
    tell us about space exploration, about human ambition, about our future? And what would it take to not just go back to the moon, but to go beyond to Mars, to the outer solar system, to the stars? So, we've arrived at this profound question. We went to the moon. We proved it was possible. We achieved one of the greatest technological feats in human history. And then we stopped. We haven't been back in over 50 years. Why? You see, this is what really bothers me as a physicist. It's not just that we haven't

    00:57:10
    gone back. It's
    that we seem to have lost the capability. We've regressed. We took this
    giant leap forward and then we took several steps back. And that tells us something important about human civilization, about progress, about our future in space. Let me give you the official explanation first. Money. After Apollo 11, public interest waned. The Vietnam War was draining resources. The economy was struggling. NASA's budget was cut drastically. By the mid 1,970 seconds, the Apollo program was

    00:57:46
    cancelled. We'd planned missions through
    Apollo 20, but we stopped at Apollo 17. And you know what? That explanation makes sense. The moon landings were expensive. The entire Apollo program
    cost over $25 billion in 1,962 seconds money. That's over $280 billion in today's dollars when you account for inflation. That's an enormous amount
    of money. More than the Manhattan project, more than the Panama Canal, one
    of the most expensive projects in human history. And what did we get for
    it?

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    Scientific knowledge, certainly. Technological advances,
    yes. National prestige absolutely, but no practical benefit, no lunar colonies, no helium 3 mining, no strategic advantage, just rocks and data and bragging rights. So when the political will evaporated, when the public lost interest, when the budget pressures mounted, the program ended. It makes perfect sense from an economic and political perspective. But here's what troubles me. We didn't just stop going to the moon. We lost the

    00:58:58
    capability to
    go. The Saturn 5 production lines were shut down. The tooling was destroyed or lost. The engineers retired. The institutional knowledge disappeared. Within
    a decade of the last moon landing, we could no longer replicate what we'
    done. Think about that. We achieved something extraordinary and then we deliberately dismantled our ability to do it again. It's like climbing
    Mount Everest and then burning all your climbing equipment. Why would
    you do that? The answer is that we didn't think we'd need

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    it
    again. We thought the moon was conquered. Done. Mission accomplished. Time
    to move on to other things. The space shuttle, the space station, maybe
    Mars someday. But we were wrong. Because now, 50 years later, we want to
    go back to the moon. And we're having to start almost from scratch. We're designing new rockets, new spacecraft, new systems. We can't just pull
    the old Saturn 5 blueprints off the shelf and build new ones. We have to reinvent everything. And that's incredibly frustrating

    01:00:05
    because
    it means we wasted 50 years. We could have been building on Apollo, advancing our capabilities, establishing a permanent presence on the moon. Instead,
    we abandoned it and fell backwards. Now, some people say we didn't really
    go to the moon in the first place, that it was all faked to win the Cold
    War propaganda battle against the Soviets. And in part one and part two,
    we looked at why that theory doesn't hold up. The evidence is overwhelming
    that we really went. But here's an interesting question. Even if

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    we really went, even if the landings were genuine, could they still
    have been partly propaganda? Could the real reason we went and the real
    reason we stopped be political rather than scientific? And the answer is
    yes. Absolutely. The moon race was fundamentally political. Kennedy didn't
    say we're going to the moon for science. He said we're going to the moon
    to beat the Soviets, to demonstrate American superiority, to win the space race. And once we won, once the Soviets gave up trying to match

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    us, the motivation evaporated. we'd achieve the political goal. Why keep spending billions of dollars? This is the reality of space exploration. It's not driven by scientific curiosity alone. Is driven by politics, by economics, by national prestige. And when those drivers disappear, the programs end. Now, let me talk about what's happened in the 50 years since Apollo. We built the space shuttle. It flew 135 missions over 30 years. It was reusable, which was supposed to make Space Access cheaper, but it didn't.

    01:01:46
    Each shuttle
    flight costs about half a billion dollars, more expensive than an Apollo mission when you account for all the refurbishment and support costs. And
    the shuttle couldn't go to the moon. It could only reach low Earth orbit a
    few hundred miles up. The moon is 240,000 mi away. The shuttle had maybe 1%
    of the capability needed to reach the moon. So we traded the ability to go
    to the moon for the ability to go to low Earth orbit repeatedly. Was that
    a good trade? Depends on your goals. If you want to

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    build a
    space station, yes. If you want to explore deep space, no. Then we built the International Space Station. An incredible achievement. A permanently crude outpost in space. But again, it's in low Earth orbit, not the moon, not Mars, just 250 mi up, barely scratching the edge of space. And we've learned a lot from the ISS, about long duration space flight, about living in microgravity, about international cooperation. All valuable, but we haven't expanded beyond low Earth orbit.

    01:02:59
    We've been circling the Earth for 50 years while
    the moon sits there untouched a quarter million miles away. Now things are changing. NASA's Aremis program plans to return humans to the moon. Maybe
    in 2026, maybe later. It keeps getting delayed and it's expensive. Really expensive. The space launch system rocket that will carry astronauts to the moon costs over $2 billion per launch. Two billion for a single launch. Compare that to Apollo. The Saturn 5 cost about 185 million per launch in 1,960

    01:03:41
    seconds. That's about 1.3 billion in today's money. So, the new
    rocket is actually more expensive than the old one, even accounting for inflation. Why? Because we're not just recreating Apollo. We're trying to
    build something better, something more capable, something safer, and all of that costs money. But here's what really gets me. Private companies are doing it cheaper. SpaceX is developing the Starship rocket. When it's operational,
    it should cost maybe 100 million per launch. maybe less.

    01:04:16
    That's 20
    times cheaper than NASA's space launch system. How is that possible? How can a private company do it so much cheaper than NASA? Well, several reasons. SpaceX is reusing rockets. They land the boosters and fly them again. NASA isn't doing that with SLS. SpaceX is using modern manufacturing techniques, 3D printing, computer control machining, vertical integration, and SpaceX has a different culture. They move fast. They fail. They learn. They iterate. NASA can't
    do that anymore. They're bound by politics, by

    01:04:56
    bureaucracy, by
    contractors spread across every congressional district. Every decision is a political decision. Every component is built in a specific state to satisfy
    a specific senator. So NASA has become less efficient, less innovative,
    less capable than they were in the 1,960 seconds. Not because the engineers
    are worse, the engineers are great, but because the system has oified. It's become sclerotic. And that's frustrating because it means we're not living
    up to our potential. We achieved incredible

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    things in the 1,960
    seconds. And now with vastly better technology, we're moving slower. But
    here's the good news. Private space companies are changing the game. SpaceX, Blue Origin, others, they're innovating. They're reducing costs. They're
    making space access routine. And this might be what finally gets us back to
    the moon. Not government programs, but commercial interest, tourism, mining, research. If there's money to be made on the moon, companies will find a
    way to get there.

    01:06:10
    Now, let me talk about something that really
    demonstrates how we've changed. Risk tolerance. In the 1,960 seconds, we accepted enormous risks. The astronauts knew they might die. Some did die. The Apollo 1 fire killed three astronauts, but the program continued. We accepted the losses and pushed forward. Today, we can't do that. After the Challenger disaster in 1986, the shuttle program was grounded for three years. After
    the Colombia disaster in 2003, it was grounded for two years. Every failure triggers massive

    01:06:50
    investigations, safety reviews, redesigns,
    and that's good in many ways. We should value human life. We should minimize risks. But it also makes bold exploration much harder because exploration is inherently risky. There's no way to eliminate all danger. The astronauts of
    the 1,962 seconds understood this. They were test pilots. They were used
    to risk. They accepted it as part of the job. And that mindset allowed
    rapid progress. Today's astronauts are still brave, but the institutions
    around them are riskaverse.

    01:07:31
    Every mission has to be as safe
    as possible. Every contingency has to be planned for, and that's expensive
    and timeconuming. So, we've traded speed for safety. And again, that's not necessarily bad, but it does explain why progress has been slower. Now, let
    me talk about something else that's changed. public interest. In the 1,960 seconds, the entire nation was focused on the moon race. People watched the launches on TV. Children dreamed of becoming astronauts. It was part of the


    01:08:09
    national identity. Today, space exploration doesn't capture
    the public imagination the way it used to. Yes, there are enthusiasts. Yes, SpaceX launches get some attention, but it's not the same. is not a national obsession. Why? Well, partly because we've already done it. The moon landing was historic because it was first. Going back won't have the same impact. It's been done before. And partly because we have other concerns. Climate change, political division, economic inequality,

    01:08:43
    pandemics. Space
    exploration seems less urgent when we have problems here on Earth. But
    I think that's shortsighted because space exploration isn't just about exploring space. It's about advancing technology. It's about inspiring the
    next generation. It's about ensuring humanity's long-term survival. You see, Earth is fragile. Asteroids could hit us. Super volcanoes could erupt. Climate change could make the planet less habitable. Pandemics could devastate the population. We're

    01:09:17
    all on one planet. one tiny blue dot in an
    enormous universe. And if something catastrophic happens, if Earth becomes uninhabitable, we need somewhere else to go. The moon could be a stepping stone. Mars could be a backup. Space colonies could ensure humanity survives even if Earth doesn't. That's the real reason to explore space. Not for rocks or flags or national pride, but for survival, for the long-term future of our species. Now, let me talk about the physics of why space is so hard. Why we can't just

    01:09:54
    easily go to the moon or Mars whenever we want. It
    all comes down to energy, specifically the rocket equation. To escape
    Earth's gravity, you need to reach about 11 kilometers per second. That's 25,000 miles per hour. And to achieve that speed, you need enormous amounts
    of energy. And that energy comes from chemical rockets burning fuel. But
    here's the problem. Fuel has mass. And to lift that mass, you need more
    fuel. And that fuel has mass, too. It's exponential. For every kilogram
    you want

    01:10:29
    to send to the moon, you need dozens of kilograms of
    fuel. That's why the Saturn 5 was so huge. 3,000 tons at launch but only
    45 tons of payload to the moon. The rest was fuel and structure, a ratio
    of about 67 to1. And we're still using the same basic technology, chemical rockets. We haven't fundamentally changed how we get to space since the 1,960 seconds. We've improved efficiency a bit. We've made rockets reusable, but the basic physics is the same. To really transform space travel, we need new

    01:11:06
    propulsion technologies. Nuclear rockets, for example, they could
    be much more efficient than chemical rockets. You could get the same thrust with much less fuel. But nuclear rockets are politically difficult. People don't like the idea of launching nuclear materials into space. What if the rocket explodes? What if radiation leaks? The risks seem too high. So, we're stuck with chemical rockets for now. And that limits what we can do. It
    makes space travel expensive and difficult. In the long term, and I'm

    01:11:41
    talking centuries here, we need to move beyond rockets entirely,
    maybe space elevators, maybe launch loops, maybe electromagnetic catapults, technologies that don't require carrying all your fuel with you. But
    we're not there yet. Not even close. So, for now, we're stuck with the
    rocket equation. And that's one fundamental reason why space is hard. Now,
    let me talk about Mars because that's really the next frontier. The moon is close. We've been there. Mars is the challenge. Mars is where we need to

    01:12:15
    go next, but Mars is incredibly difficult. It's 140 million miles
    away at its closest. The trip takes 6 to9 months. The astronauts would be exposed to radiation the entire way. They'd experience muscle and bone loss from microgravity. They'd face psychological challenges from isolation. And when they get to Mars, they'd have to land on a planet with a thin atmosphere too thin to use parachutes effectively, but thick enough to cause heating during entry. They'd have to survive on a cold, dry,

    01:12:48
    toxic world
    with no breathable air, no liquid water, and intense radiation. And then
    after doing all that, they'd have to take off again and make the 6 to9 month journey home. It's incredibly challenging, far harder than the moon. Some people say we should skip Mars and go straight to building space stations or colonies. O'Neal cylinders, rotating habitats in space. These would provide artificial gravity, protection from radiation, controlled environments. And
    you know what? That might be easier than

    01:13:24
    Mars in some ways. You
    can build a space habitat anywhere. You don't need a planet. You just need
    raw materials from asteroids and energy from the Sunday. But psychologically, people want to go to planets. We're evolved for planetary life. We want ground beneath our feet, a horizon, a sky, even if it's a Martian sky. So, I think we'll pursue both space stations and planetary colonies. Different approaches to the same goal, expanding human civilization beyond Earth. Now, let me talk about timelines.

    01:13:56
    When will we actually go to Mars? NASA says the
    2030s. Maybe if the funding holds, if the technology works, if the political will persists, SpaceX is more ambitious. Elon Musk talks about the 2020s, building a city on Mars, sending hundreds of people. But that seems optimistic, wildly optimistic. My guess, first humans on Mars in the 2032s, a small crew,
    a short stay, a flags and footprints mission like Apollo, and then decades
    more before we establish a permanent presence. It's going to be

    01:14:39
    slow, much slower than people hope because Mars is really hard and because
    we don't have the same urgency we had with the moon race. Unless something changes, unless China or another country makes it a national priority, unless there's a new space race, then things could accelerate. Competition drives progress. That's what got us to the moon. Kennedy framed it as a race against the Soviets. And that motivated the spending, the effort, the focus. Maybe we need that again. a new competitor, a new challenge, something

    01:15:18
    to
    drive us forward. Now, let me talk about something philosophical. The meaning of space exploration. Why does it matter? Why should we care? Some people
    say we shouldn't. They say we should fix problems on Earth first. Poverty, disease, climate change. Spend money on those, not on space. And I understand that argument. I really do. There are serious problems on Earth that need attention. But here's the thing. Space exploration doesn't take away from solving Earth's problems. The entire

    01:15:53
    global space industry is
    about $400 billion per year. That sounds like a lot, but it's less than
    half a percent of global GDP. It's a tiny fraction of what we spend on everything else. And space technology helps solve Earth problems. Weather satellites help predict storms and save lives. GPS enables navigation and commerce. Earth observation satellites monitor climate change, deforestation, ocean health. Communication satellites connect remote areas. The technology
    we develop for space, solar panels, water

    01:16:29
    purification, medical
    devices finds applications on Earth. Space exploration drives innovation that benefits everyone. But more than that, space exploration is about hope. It's about believing in the future. It's about dreaming big. It's about showing what humans can accomplish when we work together toward a common goal. The Apollo program inspired an entire generation. Kids who watched the moon landings became scientists, engineers, entrepreneurs. They created the technologies
    we use today. Computers,

    01:17:09
    the internet, smartphones, all of it
    traces back in part to the inspiration and innovation of the space age. So space exploration isn't a luxury. It's an investment in our future. It's how we inspire the next generation to solve the challenges we face. Now, let me talk about something that really excites me. The Cardartesev scale. I've mentioned this before, but let me go deeper. This is a way of classifying civilizations based on energy use. Type one is planetary. We control all the energy of


    01:17:46
    our planet. We can manipulate weather, prevent earthquakes,
    harness geothermal energy, solar energy, everything. We're currently about type0.7. We're getting there, but we're not there yet. Type two is stellar. We can harness all the energy of our star. A Dyson sphere, a mega structure that surrounds the sun and captures all its output. Sounds like science fiction,
    but it's physically possible. Type three is galactic. We can harness the
    energy of an entire galaxy. We're talking about a

    01:18:23
    civilization
    that spans millions of star systems, that can manipulate black holes, that operates on a cosmic scale. Now, where are we? We're type 0.7. We still get most of our energy from fossil fuels, dead plants. That's primitive. That's caveman stuff on a cosmic scale. But we're transitioning. Solar power,
    wind power, nuclear power, clean energy. In a hundred years, maybe 200,
    we'll hit type one. We'll be a planetary civilization. And then the next step is type two. To reach that, we need to

    01:18:59
    expand into space. We
    need to colonize other worlds. We need to build solar power satellites,
    space habitats, maybe eventually a Dyson sphere that's thousands of years
    away, maybe tens of thousands, but it's the direction we're headed if we
    don't destroy ourselves first. And that's the key question. Will we make
    it? Will we survive long enough to become a type one, type two, type three civilization? Or will we destroy ourselves through war, environmental collapse, or some other catastrophe? I'm

    01:19:31
    optimistic. I think we'll make
    it, but it's not guaranteed. We have to work for it. We have to make the
    right choices. And space exploration is part of that. It's how we ensure long-term survival. is how we spread humanity across multiple worlds so
    that no single disaster can wipe us out. Now, let me talk about something personal. My own journey with physics in space. When I was 8 years old
    and I saw that photo of Einstein's unfinished manuscript, I knew I wanted
    to understand the universe. I

    01:20:02
    wanted to know how everything
    works. And as I learned more, as I studied physics, I realized that space
    is part of that. Understanding the universe means understanding not just the laws of physics but also our place in the cosmos. The moon landings showed us something profound. They showed us earth from space. That famous earthrise photo from Apollo 8, the blue marble photo from Apollo 17. These images
    changed how we see ourselves. We realize that Earth is small, fragile,
    a tiny island of life in a vast hostile universe. And that

    01:20:40
    realization led to the environmental movement to the understanding that we
    need to take care of our planet because it's the only one we have. But it
    also showed us that we don't have to stay on this one planet forever. We
    can reach other worlds. We can expand our horizons. We're not limited to
    Earth. And that's a powerful idea. It means the future is open. It means we have choices. It means humanity has a destiny beyond this one planet. Now,
    let me address something important. The

    01:21:10
    conspiracy theories. Why
    do people believe the moon landings were faked? Part of it is distrust of government. People saw the government lie about Vietnam, Watergate, all
    kinds of things. So, they think if they lied about that, maybe they lied
    about the moon, too. Part of it is the seeming impossibility of it. As we've discussed, the moon landings really were incredible, almost too incredible to believe. So some people just can't accept that we actually did it. And part
    of it is the desire to be part of a special group

    01:21:43
    that knows the
    real truth. Conspiracy theories make people feel smart, like they figured out something others haven't. But the evidence is overwhelming. We really went to the moon. The physics works out. The engineering makes sense. The independent verification confirms it. The physical evidence exists. Believing it was
    faked requires you to believe in an enormous conspiracy involving hundreds
    of thousands of people over 50 years with no credible leaks. That's far less plausible than believing we actually

    01:22:16
    went. So when people ask me,
    "Do you really think we went to the moon?" I say, "Yes, absolutely, without question. The evidence is clear." But I also understand why it seems impossible because it really was almost impossible. We achieved something extraordinary, something that pushed the limits of human capability. And maybe that's the
    real lesson. Not that we can easily go to the moon anytime we want, but that
    we can do incredibly difficult things when we're motivated, when we focus our

    01:22:47
    resources, when we have a clear goal. Now, let me talk about the
    future. What comes next? Where do we go from here? First, we need to return
    to the moon, Artemis, or some other program. We need to establish a permanent presence, a lunar base, a stepping stone for deeper space exploration. Then Mars, probably in the 2030s or 2040 seconds. First missions will be short exploratory, but eventually we'll establish a permanent settlement. And then what? The asteroid belt. The moons of Jupiter and Saturn.

    01:23:25
    These
    are rich in resources. water, ice, metals, organic compounds, everything
    we need to build more spacecraft, more habitats, more infrastructure. Over centuries, we'll spread throughout the solar system and eventually beyond
    to other star systems, to other planets orbiting other stars. That's the long-term vision. That's where we're headed. Not in my lifetime, probably not in your lifetime, but in the lifetime of our descendants. And it all starts with those first steps. The moon, Mars,

    01:24:02
    building the capability
    to live and work in space. Now, people ask me about the Fermy paradox. If the universe is so vast, where are all the aliens? Why haven't we seen evidence of other civilizations? And there are many possible answers. Maybe intelligent life is rare. Maybe civilizations tend to destroy themselves before they can expand. Maybe they're out there, but we haven't noticed them yet. Or maybe,
    and this is what worries me, maybe space is even harder than we think. Maybe most

    01:24:33
    civilizations never make it off their home planet. Maybe
    they get stuck like we've been stuck for the last 50 years. And if that's
    true, then it's crucial that we don't give up, that we keep pushing, that we overcome the challenges and become a true space fairing civilization. Because the alternative is to stay on Earth forever and eventually something will happen to Earth. An asteroid, a super volcano. The sun will die on long
    enough time scales. Extinction is inevitable if we stay on

    01:25:07
    one
    planet. So we have to expand. We have to become a multilanet species. Not
    for adventure, not for glory, but for survival. Now let me talk about my parents. They were immigrants. They came to America with nothing. They worked hard. They believed in the American dream. And part of that dream was the
    space program. My father would watch the moon landings on our little black
    and white TV. And even though he didn't understand the science, he understood what it meant. It meant that anything was possible. That humans could achieve


    01:25:44
    incredible things. And that inspired me. It made me want to be
    part of that. to contribute to human knowledge, to help push the boundaries
    of what's possible. And that's what space exploration is really about. It's about inspiration. It's about showing what we can accomplish. It's about believing in a better future. When I teach students, I tell them this. Don't just memorize facts. Understand principles. Ask big questions. Dream big dreams. Because the universe is vast and wonderful and full

    01:26:16
    of
    mysteries. And we have the privilege, the incredible privilege of being able
    to explore it, to understand it, to expand into it. The moon landings were
    just the beginning, a first step. We stumbled after that. We lost our way
    for a while, but we're finding it again. And in the coming decades, we'll go back to the moon. We'll go to Mars. We'll build the infrastructure for a true space civilization. It won't be easy. It'll be incredibly hard. maybe even impossible by current standards. But so was the

    01:26:51
    moon landing and
    we did that. So we can do this too. We can overcome the challenges. We can solve the problems. We can achieve the impossible because that's what humans do. We dream. We explore. We push boundaries. We reach for the stars. And
    one day, maybe not in my lifetime, but someday, humans will stand on worlds light years from Earth. We'll look up at an alien sky. We'll see unfamiliar constellations. And we'll know that we made it. That we became a true space fairing species. That's the

    01:27:28
    dream. That's the vision. That's
    why the moon landings matter. Not because we planted a flag 50 years ago,
    but because they showed us what's possible. They prove that space is hard
    but not impossible, difficult but achievable. And now it's up to us to
    this generation and the next to build on that legacy to not let another 50 years pass without progress to keep pushing forward because the universe is waiting. The future is calling and humanity's destiny is among the stars. So when people ask me was it

    01:28:05
    impossible for humans to land on the
    moon I tell them this yes it was impossible by any reasonable measure it
    should have been impossible but we did it anyway we achieved the impossible
    and that's the most human thing of Oh.

    Paul
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  • From knuttle@keith_nuttle@yahoo.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Dec 10 07:40:47 2025
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    On 12/10/2025 12:57 AM, Paul wrote:
    elf a very uncomfortable question. How did they actually
    pull this off? Now, before you think I'm some conspiracy theorist, let me
    be clear. I'm a physicist. I work on string theory at the City University
    of New York. I believe in evidence. I believe in mathematics. I believe
    in the scientific method. And that's exactly why this questio
    You forgot the politics. We have not been back to the moon because the
    nation changed its focus from research to social engineering.

    Fortunately we are seeing a slight return to engineering and research
    with the new Nuclear plants that are starting to be built to provide
    energy to the data banks. We will all benefit.

    People bitched because of all of the money spent going to the moon. Do
    you that not one penny was spent on the moon, it was all spent on the
    people on the earth.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Dec 10 08:19:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 12/10/2025 7:40 AM, knuttle wrote:
    On 12/10/2025 12:57 AM, Paul wrote:
    elf a very uncomfortable question. How did they actually
    pull this off? Now, before you think I'm some conspiracy theorist, let me
    be clear. I'm a physicist. I work on string theory at the City University
    of New York. I believe in evidence. I believe in mathematics. I believe
    in the scientific method. And that's exactly why this questio
    You forgot the politics.  We have not been back to the moon because the nation changed its focus from research to social engineering.

    Fortunately we are seeing a slight return to engineering and research with the new Nuclear plants that are starting to be built to provide energy to the data banks. We will all benefit.

    People bitched because of all of the money spent going to the moon.  Do you that not one penny was spent on the moon, it was all spent on the people on the earth.

    Well, it's a video, to make money.

    Rather than having any intention of furthering
    old discussions.

    The original moon landing was approached like many of the
    extraterrestrial robotic missions. One ship. Descent stage.
    Ascent stage. Return and so on. It's a linear sequence of
    plausible activities.

    The current plan isn't really a complete plan at the moment,
    which means it could stretch to infinity. One company making
    space suits, bowed out of the work. I don't know if there are
    any suits to wear for the people. Based on what keeps happening
    to the space suit work, this should be a highest priority activity.

    There is a thing that looks like a space-ready ship,
    with no adornments to finish the mission. Like
    a taxi cab without seats. It can fly an orbit around the
    moon and bring its tourists back, without landing.

    How can you execute such expensive projects, without
    a plan ? There is some amount of a linear sequence,
    but it is not complete and the story keeps changing.

    And many things that humans do now, are like this.
    An inability to plan.

    My favorite example is the public transit system here.

    Multiple cities have the same problem. You can bicycle
    faster than you can ride public transit. Just recently a
    new service opened in another city, and they were saying
    "you can run faster than this thing drives across town".
    That is how we benchmark our expensive public transit
    projects, by how slow they are.

    We used to have a system, where the buses more or less
    went in straight lines. Now, the buses meander through
    every subdivision in the city. That's what burns up
    fifty minutes of your trip, is "driving past everybody
    elses house".

    Paul
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Dec 10 13:39:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 10/12/2025 12:40, knuttle wrote:
    On 12/10/2025 12:57 AM, Paul wrote:
    elf a very uncomfortable question. How did they actually
    pull this off? Now, before you think I'm some conspiracy theorist, let me
    be clear. I'm a physicist. I work on string theory at the City University
    of New York. I believe in evidence. I believe in mathematics. I believe
    in the scientific method. And that's exactly why this questio
    You forgot the politics.  We have not been back to the moon because the nation changed its focus from research to social engineering.

    Fortunately we are seeing a slight return to engineering and research
    with the new Nuclear plants that are starting to be built to provide
    energy to the data banks. We will all benefit.

    People bitched because of all of the money spent going to the moon.  Do
    you that not one penny was spent on the moon, it was all spent on the
    people on the earth.

    In my experience, there is no such thing as a secret that you could
    expect all those involved to say nothing for all these years.
    --
    Jim the Geordie
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  • From Tim Slattery@TimSlattery@utexas.edu to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Dec 10 14:40:37 2025
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    Physics Perspective <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Join physicist Michio Kaku as he examines one of the greatest
    achievements in history through a scientific lens.

    Thanks for posting this link. This is an *excellent* lecture.

    But I have a question about it. It *sounds* like Michio Kaku talking
    (I've seen him on many TV programs.) But he wouldn't keep saying "one
    thousand nine hundred sixty seconds" when he meant "nineteen-sixties".
    A computer translating text to audio would do this when it encountered
    "1960s" in the text.

    So what's going on here? A text-to-audio program that's smart enough
    to use Kaku's voice and his inflections, but not smart enough to know
    that "1960s" should be pronounced "nineteen-sixties"?

    Oh well. Other than that, I loved it!
    --
    Tim Slattery
    timslattery <at> utexas <dot> edu
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  • From Paul in Houston TX@Paul@Houston.Texas to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Dec 10 16:14:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Tim Slattery wrote:
    Physics Perspective <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Join physicist Michio Kaku as he examines one of the greatest
    achievements in history through a scientific lens.

    Thanks for posting this link. This is an *excellent* lecture.

    But I have a question about it. It *sounds* like Michio Kaku talking
    (I've seen him on many TV programs.) But he wouldn't keep saying "one thousand nine hundred sixty seconds" when he meant "nineteen-sixties".
    A computer translating text to audio would do this when it encountered "1960s" in the text.

    So what's going on here? A text-to-audio program that's smart enough
    to use Kaku's voice and his inflections, but not smart enough to know
    that "1960s" should be pronounced "nineteen-sixties"?

    Oh well. Other than that, I loved it!

    Just like most youtube vids nowadays:
    Created, voiced, and uploaded by AI without any human input except for
    the initial concept.
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  • From v55@alittlespam@arandommailserver.tk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Dec 11 12:04:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 12/9/2025 9:42:54 PM, Physics Perspective wrote:
    Join physicist Michio Kaku as he examines one of the greatest
    achievements in history through a scientific lens. In this
    thought-provoking two-hour exploration, discover why the 1969 Moon
    landing seems almost impossible when you analyse the physics, technology
    and challenges involved.

    Professor Kaku reveals the extraordinary challenges NASA overcame, such
    as navigating with just 64 KB of computer memory, surviving deadly Van
    Allen radiation belts, operating in extreme lunar temperatures and
    landing using technology that seems primitive by today's standards.

    Every aspect of the Apollo missions pushed the absolute limits of what
    was physically possible, from radiation exposure and the rocket equation
    to the fragile design of the lunar module and the psychological
    pressures on astronauts.

    But here's the paradox: if it was so impossible, why haven't we returned
    in the last 50 years? Why does modern technology struggle to replicate
    what we achieved with slide rules and vacuum tubes?

    This isn't a conspiracy theory; it's hard science examining an almost miraculous achievement and asking the uncomfortable questions about why humanity's greatest triumph remains unrepeated.

    Topics covered:

    - Van Allen radiation belts and cosmic ray exposure
    - The incredible limitations of the Apollo Guidance Computer
    - Surviving extreme temperatures on the lunar surface
    - Why we lost the capability of the Saturn V rocket
    - Engineering 'impossibilities' that worked
    - Lost institutional knowledge from the 1960s
    - Why returning to the Moon is harder than we think

    <https://youtu.be/CrHw85yeYGU?si=YRUnx8rRIPPBE2Il>


    Counterargument:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

    Main plot points:
    in 1969, the US was using NASA as a loose proxy for ICBM capabilities. It was
    a way to get the capability in a readiness state and have a public display of US capabilities, without causing harm that could be controversial and/or provoke a counteroffensive. As such, it got drowned in taxpayer funds and was
    a magnet for the scientific minds of the day. As such, it was a priority, and got funded as much, and was a favorable use of tax dollars in the court of public opinion. (not in the youtube video, but implied by it)

    The initial moon shot had about two hours of video that was transmitted back, that was seen in real-time by both Americans and Russians (and Australians,
    and other countries). In 1969, it was not physically possible to have Stanley Kubrick direct a production of that length, complete with the necessary slow motion to reflect the moon's lower gravity, without using film, which would have film artifacts that the Russians would have absolutely caught on to, and would have been impossible to avoid in the two hours of Apollo 11 footage,
    had it been done that way. Then...there were Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17 missions that ALSO had lengthy broadcasts, which were also void of film artifacts AND were filmed at 29.97fps instead of the 10fps of Apollo 11, AND were also seen by other countries in real time, none of whom refuted that the footage was faked, or was being broadcast from somewhere other than the moon.

    Other videos I've seen have noted the parallel shadows that are almost-impossible recreate on earth now, and were very- impossible to
    recreate in 1969 (it would require a large quantity of white lasers which did not exist at the time), as well as later missions capturing the "rooster feather effect" of the dust coming up from the tires on the lunar rovers,
    which is an effect of the moon's gravity and completely impossible to
    recreate on earth under any circumstances.


    In terms of Kaku's stance...the computer had 64KB of memory, but that's
    because the REAL calculations were being done by humans, on earth, and with earth-bound computers. Also, the code was purpose-built and tightly written directly to the hardware. As a loose comparison, Microsoft Word is well over 1GB in size, but WordPerfect 5.1 (the program that, along with Lotus 1-2-3
    and Paradox, are the reasons desktop computers became commonplace), does at least 2/3 of what Word does, and it does it in 4MB. 64KB with the best
    software engineers, combined with the computers on the ground (both
    mechanical and human), make the need for the kind of hardware specs required
    to run modern software unnecessary.

    In terms of the radiation belts...the command module had lead lining to help keep the radiation exposure down. The suits were partially lined, but that's
    a part of the reason why the missions on the surface were relatively short.

    Kaku is correct that a manned moon shot *is* a hard problem, and an expensive endeavour, which is why it's only been a very small number of nations that
    have gotten *anything* on the moon (Russia, China, India, Japan, Luxembourg, UAE, Israel, EU), and even fewer that have accomplished a soft-landing (US, Russia, China, India). A 2019 estimate from a CBS reporter indicated that the Apollo 11 program - and everything connected to it - cost $288 billion in
    2019 dollars - more than the US spends annually on non-defense safety, education, and healthcare combined. That is a LOT of money for ANY country to spend on such a program without the sort of political undertones of the Cold War to bake it into the defense budget.

    So, while Professor Kaku has some understandable concerns about the extreme difficulties involved with doing a manned lunar landing...the baseline, fundamental question that Kaku *must* contend with, is that no nation, friend or foe, ever came forward to claim the lunar landing was faked. "But it was hard"...yes, but the Russians agreed it happened. "But the computers were slow!" ...yes, but the Austrailians agreed it happened. "But there was a lot
    of radiation!" ...yes, but the Japanese agreed it happened. The claim that it was faked must account for the tens of thousands of people who would all have to be lying to cover up America's secret, including America's enemies at the time.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Dec 12 13:50:29 2025
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    On 2025/12/11 17:4:19, v55 wrote:
    [excellent text deleted]
    Kaku is correct that a manned moon shot *is* a hard problem, and an expensive endeavour, which is why it's only been a very small number of nations that have gotten *anything* on the moon (Russia, China, India, Japan, Luxembourg, UAE, Israel, EU), and even fewer that have accomplished a soft-landing (US,
    1. I don't remember a Luxembourg space programme - certainly not getting
    to the moon.
    2. The EU is not (yet?) a nation, though the nations comprising it (plus
    some others - I think UK still has involvement, both financial and
    technical, though not part of the EU, in ESA) have created a fairly
    successful association.
    []
    So, while Professor Kaku has some understandable concerns about the extreme difficulties involved with doing a manned lunar landing...the baseline,> fundamental question that Kaku *must* contend with, is that no nation, friend
    or foe, ever came forward to claim the lunar landing was faked. "But it was hard"...yes, but the Russians agreed it happened. "But the computers were slow!" ...yes, but the Austrailians agreed it happened. "But there was a lot of radiation!" ...yes, but the Japanese agreed it happened. The claim that it was faked must account for the tens of thousands of people who would all have to be lying to cover up America's secret, including America's enemies at the time.
    Indeed. Though the film (Caprcorn One, I think it was called) was fun at
    the time.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf