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Why do some programs keep installing their startup programs over and
over, like One Drive and Google Updater. I thought these startup
programs did simple tasks, like look for updates (Google updater) or
kick up programs that were installed and updated elsewhere?

One such program was tonight and the other was in the past week. If you
give me some time I can give you others that keep re-inatalling.
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On Mon, 3/16/2026 10:17 PM, micky wrote:

Why do some programs keep installing their startup programs over and
over, like One Drive and Google Updater. I thought these startup
programs did simple tasks, like look for updates (Google updater) or
kick up programs that were installed and updated elsewhere?

One such program was tonight and the other was in the past week. If you
give me some time I can give you others that keep re-inatalling.

Security updates. If an exploit is present, someone fixes it.

MSEdge updates at high frequency too. And likely to be the
same rate that Chrome receives updates (or releases).

Paul

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On 3/16/2026 7:17 PM, micky wrote:

Why do some programs keep installing their startup programs over and
over, like One Drive and Google Updater. I thought these startup
programs did simple tasks, like look for updates (Google updater) or
kick up programs that were installed and updated elsewhere?

One such program was tonight and the other was in the past week. If you
give me some time I can give you others that keep re-inatalling.

Define OneDrive Startup.

It's been disabled on my 3 devices from starting up automatically in Windows(10 and 11) since the last clean install and/or feature
update(the former over a year, the latter last December)...and its still disabled from starting up.
=> Windows 10/11/Settings/Apps/Startup/OneDrive

Also configured(for those same devices and time frame) as disabled for:
- Manage Backup/<Documents Pictures, Desktop, Music, Videos)
- Save photos and videos from devices(connecting camera, phone and
other device to my PC)
- Save screeenshots I capture to OneDrive
- Pause sync device when in batter saver mode
- Pause sync device when on metered network
- File Collaboration
- Limit Download rate
- Limit Upload rate

With the above, the only way it opens in any instance is clicking on the
app on the Toolbar or Start Menu.
- Note: If not already understood, the OneDrive app updates
automatically via the MSFT Store, not Windows Update. App updating
doesn't change previous settings.
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On 3/16/2026 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:

On Mon, 3/16/2026 10:17 PM, micky wrote:

Why do some programs keep installing their startup programs over and
over, like One Drive and Google Updater. I thought these startup
programs did simple tasks, like look for updates (Google updater) or
kick up programs that were installed and updated elsewhere?

One such program was tonight and the other was in the past week. If you
give me some time I can give you others that keep re-inatalling.

Security updates. If an exploit is present, someone fixes it.

MSEdge updates at high frequency too. And likely to be the
same rate that Chrome receives updates (or releases).

Paul

Security updates don't change OneDrive's user configured settings.
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On Tue, 3/17/2026 1:53 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

On 3/16/2026 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:

On Mon, 3/16/2026 10:17 PM, micky wrote:

Why do some programs keep installing their startup programs over and
over, like One Drive and Google Updater.  I thought these startup
programs did simple tasks, like look for updates (Google updater) or
kick up programs that were installed and updated elsewhere?

One such program was tonight and the other was in the past week. If you
give me some time I can give you others that keep re-inatalling.

Security updates. If an exploit is present, someone fixes it.

MSEdge updates at high frequency too. And likely to be the
same rate that Chrome receives updates (or releases).

    Paul

Security updates don't change OneDrive's user configured settings.

Micky wanted to know why he sees "a lot of setup activity",
the installation of one binary over top of another.

I am explaining an incentive for it to happen.

Your Metro.Apps are updated asynchronously and you can see
these come in during the day in.

View Reliability History # Settings, use the search bar

9WZDNCRD29V9-MICROSOFT.MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB Successful Windows Update Fri, 3/13/2026 9:59 PM

I don't have Office installed on here, but my "Hub" is clean and polished :-)

Paul
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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 17 Mar 2026 16:29:57 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 3/17/2026 1:53 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

On 3/16/2026 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:

On Mon, 3/16/2026 10:17 PM, micky wrote:

Why do some programs keep installing their startup programs over and
over, like One Drive and Google Updater.  I thought these startup
programs did simple tasks, like look for updates (Google updater) or
kick up programs that were installed and updated elsewhere?

One such program was tonight and the other was in the past week. If you >>>> give me some time I can give you others that keep re-inatalling.

Security updates. If an exploit is present, someone fixes it.

MSEdge updates at high frequency too. And likely to be the
same rate that Chrome receives updates (or releases).

    Paul

Security updates don't change OneDrive's user configured settings.

Micky wanted to know why he sees "a lot of setup activity",

Since you put it in quotes, but did not quote me, I must set the record straight. I see them "installing their startup programs" repeatedly. I
think that is narrower than setup activity, and I would expect startup programs, especially an updater program, which I assume just checks for updates, to be very simple and not subject to security updates.

This somehow reminds me of when I my credit card was stolen and I tried
to report it. Both online and by phone the system was down for over 24
hours. They should have had a program that accepts reports of lost and
stolen cards and is so simple there is no need to update it, so its
never down. They didn't, so maybe google doesn't either.

For months I would not let One Drive install and it tried to over and
over. At the time I thought it knew I'd stopped it and that's why it
kept trying so often, but now I need to pay attention again. I finally
gave in and let it install, and I should watch to see how often it's re-installing.

the installation of one binary over top of another.

I am explaining an incentive for it to happen.

Your Metro.Apps are updated asynchronously and you can see
these come in during the day in.

View Reliability History # Settings, use the search bar

9WZDNCRD29V9-MICROSOFT.MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB Successful Windows Update Fri, 3/13/2026 9:59 PM

I don't have Office installed on here, but my "Hub" is clean and polished :-)

Paul

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On 3/17/2026 1:29 PM, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 3/17/2026 1:53 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

On 3/16/2026 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:

On Mon, 3/16/2026 10:17 PM, micky wrote:

Why do some programs keep installing their startup programs over and
over, like One Drive and Google Updater.  I thought these startup
programs did simple tasks, like look for updates (Google updater) or
kick up programs that were installed and updated elsewhere?

One such program was tonight and the other was in the past week. If you >>>> give me some time I can give you others that keep re-inatalling.

Security updates. If an exploit is present, someone fixes it.

MSEdge updates at high frequency too. And likely to be the
same rate that Chrome receives updates (or releases).

    Paul

Security updates don't change OneDrive's user configured settings.

Micky wanted to know why he sees "a lot of setup activity",
the installation of one binary over top of another.

I am explaining an incentive for it to happen.

Your Metro.Apps are updated asynchronously and you can see
these come in during the day in.

View Reliability History # Settings, use the search bar

9WZDNCRD29V9-MICROSOFT.MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB Successful Windows Update Fri, 3/13/2026 9:59 PM

I don't have Office installed on here, but my "Hub" is clean and polished :-)

Paul

It's not Office, nor is it related to OneDrive[1].
The above 'Hub app' is the M365 CoPilot app normally included in Win11 installations. Also available in the MSFT Store.

For micky's OneDrive comment.
I covered this multiple times in the past. OneDrive needs to
installed, opened and linked with a MSA to be configured properly. Does
not need to be removed/ only configured to disabled as noted in my
earlier reply to micky, then quit and/or unlinked.
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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Wed, 18 Mar 2026 11:13:42 -0700,
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

For micky's OneDrive comment.
I covered this multiple times in the past. OneDrive needs to
installed, opened and linked with a MSA to be configured properly. Does
not need to be removed/ only configured to disabled as noted in my
earlier reply to micky, then quit and/or unlinked.

Darn, I may have forgotten this. I have been forgetting things,
although most that I've noticed are physical things from years ago, that
I found when cleaing my storage bedroom (so that some day I can actually
move). I've found quite a few things I don't remember having.
I will disable it and quit or unlink it. Thanks and thanks all.
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On 3/18/26 11:13 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

For micky's OneDrive comment.
I covered this multiple times in the past.

Darn I must have missed it too. Shame on us.

OneDrive needs to be
installed, opened and linked with a MSA to be configured properly. Does
not need to be removed/ only configured to disabled as noted in my
earlier reply to micky, then quit and/or unlinked.

Or just uninstall it if you don't ever plan to use it as I did. I was
actually kinda surprised that MS let me do it. I use the G drive 2 buck a
month plan so don't really need both and MS kept bragging about how it was
doing unrequested backups. So take that MS.

OK this is an Android 16 test. Don't look if that offends you. This
newsreader has been having more problems as Android advances. If you don't
see this it failed...



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On 3/18/2026 1:34 PM, AJL wrote:

On 3/18/26 11:13 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

For micky's OneDrive comment.
I covered this multiple times in the past.

Darn I must have missed it too. Shame on us.

OneDrive needs to be
installed, opened and linked with a MSA to be configured properly.
Does not need to be removed/ only configured to disabled as noted in
my earlier reply to micky, then quit and/or unlinked.

Or just uninstall it if you don't ever plan to use it as I did. I was actually kinda surprised that MS let me do it. I use the G drive 2 buck a month plan so don't really need both and MS kept bragging about how it was doing unrequested backups. So take that MS.

OK this is an Android 16 test. Don't look if that offends you. This newsreader has been having more problems as Android advances. If you don't see this it failed...

The uninstall method is not always the best to stop future offerings of OneDrive(the app, an ad, integration with CoPilot, Office, the Windows
Mail app).

The least intrusive route....Leave it installed, but configured with an
MSA(in either or both Microsoft or Local logon accounts) as disabled for
all its own settings features, disabled from opening on Startup(Windows settings), then Quit
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On 3/18/26 5:41 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

On 3/18/2026 1:34 PM, AJL wrote:

On 3/18/26 11:13 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

For micky's OneDrive comment.
I covered this multiple times in the past.

Darn I must have missed it too. Shame on us.

OneDrive needs to be
installed, opened and linked with a MSA to be configured properly.
Does not need to be removed/ only configured to disabled as noted in
my earlier reply to micky, then quit and/or unlinked.

Or just uninstall it if you don't ever plan to use it as I did. I was
actually kinda surprised that MS let me do it. I use the G drive 2 buck a
month plan so don't really need both and MS kept bragging about how it was >> doing unrequested backups. So take that MS.

OK this is an Android 16 test. Don't look if that offends you. This
newsreader has been having more problems as Android advances. If you don't >> see this it failed...

The uninstall method is not always the best to stop future offerings of >OneDrive(the app, an ad, integration with CoPilot, Office, the Windows
Mail app).

The least intrusive route....Leave it installed, but configured with an >MSA(in either or both Microsoft or Local logon accounts) as disabled for
all its own settings features, disabled from opening on Startup(Windows >settings), then Quit

YMMV. Uninstalling OneDrive has always worked for me in the past. Admittedly
a survey of one and of course the OS is always changing. I just uninstalled
it on my new hot Windows tablet so will report back if things turn out
different this time...


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AJL wrote on 3/18/2026 6:07 PM:

On 3/18/26 5:41 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

On 3/18/2026 1:34 PM, AJL wrote:

On 3/18/26 11:13 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

For micky's OneDrive comment.
I covered this multiple times in the past.

Darn I must have missed it too. Shame on us.

OneDrive needs to be
installed, opened and linked with a MSA to be configured properly.
Does not need to be removed/ only configured to disabled as noted in
my earlier reply to micky, then quit and/or unlinked.

Or just uninstall it if you don't ever plan to use it as I did. I was
actually kinda surprised that MS let me do it. I use the G drive 2 buck a >>> month plan so don't really need both and MS kept bragging about how it
was
doing unrequested backups. So take that MS.

OK this is an Android 16 test. Don't look if that offends you. This
newsreader has been having more problems as Android advances. If you
don't
see this it failed...

The uninstall method is not always the best to stop future offerings of
OneDrive(the app, an ad, integration with CoPilot, Office, the Windows
Mail app).

The least intrusive route....Leave it installed, but configured with an
MSA(in either or both Microsoft or Local logon accounts) as disabled
for all its own settings features, disabled from opening on
Startup(Windows settings), then Quit

YMMV. Uninstalling OneDrive has always worked for me in the past. Admittedly a survey of one and of course the OS is always changing. I just uninstalled it on my new hot Windows tablet so will report back if things turn out different this time...

This is one of those preferences similar to 'whatever floats your boat'.

In my case with OneDrive UI settings configured/toggled off in its UI and Windows Startup, and OneDrive 'Quit'(not unlinked)...the only notice I
get about 'backup' is in Microsoft 365(Office) Family
- but that notice is not from OneDrive presence on the device(s), its
from code within Office itself.

...from my experience, your approach should also be done with(and prior
to uninstallation) configuring OneDrive with an MSA (disable[toggle off]
all of its UI settings),'Unlink' the MSA in those same UI settings, then uninstall OneDrive, and finally cleanup the orphans in the local accounts folders.
%localappdata%\Microsoft\OneDrive
=> iirc, should be 5 or 6 folders.
Note: in some cases, it may be necessary to first delete the files in
those folders before folder deletion.

If it is necessary to report back, feel free to include a pic, if
available, of what you originally meant by 'unrequested backups'.
- e.g. Windows notice? Office notice? Microsoft app notice? other notice/popup/offer?

Thanks.
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On 3/19/26 12:46 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

AJL wrote on 3/18/2026 6:07 PM:

On 3/18/26 5:41 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

On 3/18/2026 1:34 PM, AJL wrote:

On 3/18/26 11:13 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

For micky's OneDrive comment.
I covered this multiple times in the past.

Darn I must have missed it too. Shame on us.

OneDrive needs to be
installed, opened and linked with a MSA to be configured properly.
Does not need to be removed/ only configured to disabled as noted in >>>>> my earlier reply to micky, then quit and/or unlinked.

Or just uninstall it if you don't ever plan to use it as I did. I was
actually kinda surprised that MS let me do it. I use the G drive 2 buck a >>>> month plan so don't really need both and MS kept bragging about how it >>>> was
doing unrequested backups. So take that MS.

OK this is an Android 16 test. Don't look if that offends you. This
newsreader has been having more problems as Android advances. If you
don't
see this it failed...

The uninstall method is not always the best to stop future offerings of >>> OneDrive(the app, an ad, integration with CoPilot, Office, the Windows
Mail app).

The least intrusive route....Leave it installed, but configured with an >>> MSA(in either or both Microsoft or Local logon accounts) as disabled
for all its own settings features, disabled from opening on
Startup(Windows settings), then Quit

YMMV. Uninstalling OneDrive has always worked for me in the past. Admittedly >> a survey of one and of course the OS is always changing. I just uninstalled >> it on my new hot Windows tablet so will report back if things turn out
different this time...

This is one of those preferences similar to 'whatever floats your boat'.

Yup. That's what my YMMV comment (just above) means.

In my case with OneDrive UI settings configured/toggled off in its UI and >Windows Startup, and OneDrive 'Quit'(not unlinked)...the only notice I
get about 'backup' is in Microsoft 365(Office) Family
- but that notice is not from OneDrive presence on the device(s), its
from code within Office itself.

There's no Office on my Windows tablet. I uninstalled all the apps that I
won't be using and was allowed to. There was a bunch...

...from my experience, your approach should also be done with(and prior
to uninstallation) configuring OneDrive with an MSA (disable[toggle off]
all of its UI settings),'Unlink' the MSA in those same UI settings, then >uninstall OneDrive, and finally cleanup the orphans in the local accounts >folders.
%localappdata%\Microsoft\OneDrive

iirc, should be 5 or 6 folders.

Note: in some cases, it may be necessary to first delete the files in
those folders before folder deletion.

If it is necessary to report back,

Again YMMV. We obviously use Windows for very different reasons. I hadn't
had any Windows devices for awhile. My Chromebooks and Android toys pretty
much satisfied my entertainment needs. But as Android advanced, some of my
favorite newsreader apps were left behind. Groundhog broke around Android
9. This PhoNews ($2 US in Play Store) I'm posting with is starting to have
problems around Android 16. Fortunately it still works Ok on this Android
14 tablet I'm posting with. So I thought why not get a Windows tablet and
go back to Thunderbird. Which I did. However never having a Windows tablet
before I was surprised and disappointed at the heat, sluggishness,
heavyness, poor battery life, and hard to use touch screen. Compared to my
Samsung 11" Android tablet of the same price class it's a piece of shit.
But it does do Thunderbird so I'm covered but probably won't be using it
all that much otherwise. Hopefully the more expensive Windows tablets are
better. Bottom line IMO the Windows OS is just too heavy to fit in a
tablet. Is that enough YMMV for you... ;)


feel free to include a pic, if

available, of what you originally meant by 'unrequested backups'.
- e.g. Windows notice? Office notice? Microsoft app notice? other
notice/popup/offer?

Thanks.

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