• 3 queestions about directory structure, dirve letters, and disk full.

    From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Mar 18 17:40:37 2026
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    Two part question.

    I'm doing a test backup of my HD, only .txt and pdf files, to see if my
    new backup routing skips to the next command when using the FOR command.
    1) Important: It found and copied all the .txt commands with one
    exception, from the x86 programs, EaseUS\EaseUs to
    do...\res\Italian\Istruzioni di ripristino.txt . I don't speak Italian
    so I wouldn't use these instructions anyhow, BUT when I go to the source
    (my laptop) there is all sorts of garbage in the Italian folder,
    inclding other folders.

    Am I right that I should leave well enough alone and not try to delete
    this stuff, since it might point to important files that I need???


    2) A matter of curiosity: While I had one flashdrive plugged into the
    4-port hub, it had a Drive letter of E. When I plugged in a second one,
    it got E. and the first one got bumped up to F: That seems very strange
    and improper. What do you think?
    The hub has 4 ports and the first E: was plugged inot the farthest
    from the input cable. The next one was plugged in the 2nd from the
    cable. Do think this is he reason the new got the lower letter and
    evicted the first one>


    3) Number 3 is mostly a matter of curiosity: This was an old 16Gig,
    USB2 flash drive that still had some room on it so I just used it to
    test. It copied all the .txt files and was working on the .pdf files
    when the PC beeped, the cmd box said "Drive Full", the drives
    properties, which had reached 9GB used, now said 0 used and 0 free, but
    the light on the drive kept flashing for 10 minutes until I turned off
    the power to is using the switch on the hub.

    When I turned it back on Propeties now said it used 3 gigs but Folder
    Size, which adds up all the individual sizes says 63 gigs. 4x the size
    of the whole flashdrive. At first I thought it wa following the
    directory links from the problem mentioned in 1 above, but that was mmy
    laptop, not the flasdrive, which never had copied

    Meanwhile EVerything says there are 1200 pdf files in the destination
    drive, and every one I looked at worked fine. So it didn't delete
    anything when the drive got full.

    So why does Properties think it only has 3 gigs?
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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Mar 18 17:56:03 2026
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    On 3/18/26 5:40 PM, micky wrote:
    Two part question.

    I'm doing a test backup of my HD, only .txt and pdf files, to see if my
    new backup routing skips to the next command when using the FOR command.
    1) Important: It found and copied all the .txt commands with one
    exception, from the x86 programs, EaseUS\EaseUs to do...\res\Italian\Istruzioni di ripristino.txt . I don't speak Italian
    so I wouldn't use these instructions anyhow, BUT when I go to the source
    (my laptop) there is all sorts of garbage in the Italian folder,
    inclding other folders.

    Am I right that I should leave well enough alone and not try to delete
    this stuff, since it might point to important files that I need???


    2) A matter of curiosity: While I had one flashdrive plugged into the
    4-port hub, it had a Drive letter of E. When I plugged in a second one,
    it got E. and the first one got bumped up to F: That seems very strange
    and improper. What do you think?
    The hub has 4 ports and the first E: was plugged inot the farthest
    from the input cable. The next one was plugged in the 2nd from the
    cable. Do think this is he reason the new got the lower letter and
    evicted the first one>


    3) Number 3 is mostly a matter of curiosity: This was an old 16Gig,
    USB2 flash drive that still had some room on it so I just used it to
    test. It copied all the .txt files and was working on the .pdf files
    when the PC beeped, the cmd box said "Drive Full", the drives
    properties, which had reached 9GB used, now said 0 used and 0 free, but
    the light on the drive kept flashing for 10 minutes until I turned off
    the power to is using the switch on the hub.

    When I turned it back on Propeties now said it used 3 gigs but Folder
    Size, which adds up all the individual sizes says 63 gigs. 4x the size
    of the whole flashdrive. At first I thought it wa following the
    directory links from the problem mentioned in 1 above, but that was mmy laptop, not the flasdrive, which never had copied

    Meanwhile EVerything says there are 1200 pdf files in the destination
    drive, and every one I looked at worked fine. So it didn't delete
    anything when the drive got full.

    So why does Properties think it only has 3 gigs?
    For #2, I usually make a autorun.inf file and name the "drive" and make a cute icon. And
    then I go into disk manager and make it something high like K: drive. That way stray
    drives don't bump it around. And usually the drive icon is the letter "K". That way
    when I look at "This PC" I can see if the drive is the in the right pigeon hole.

    Here is a simple autoruns.inf file:

    [AutoRun]
    icon=icon.ico
    label=Windows11

    Then change properties of the autoruns.inf and the icon.ico and make them hidden.

    Again, it works 99.5% of the time for me.
    --
    Linux Mint 22.3, Mozilla Thunderbird 140.8.1esr, Mozilla Firefox 148.0.2
    Alan K.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Mar 20 04:16:25 2026
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    On Wed, 3/18/2026 5:40 PM, micky wrote:
    Two part question.

    I'm doing a test backup of my HD, only .txt and pdf files, to see if my
    new backup routing skips to the next command when using the FOR command.
    1) Important: It found and copied all the .txt commands with one
    exception, from the x86 programs, EaseUS\EaseUs to do...\res\Italian\Istruzioni di ripristino.txt . I don't speak Italian
    so I wouldn't use these instructions anyhow, BUT when I go to the source
    (my laptop) there is all sorts of garbage in the Italian folder,
    inclding other folders.

    Am I right that I should leave well enough alone and not try to delete
    this stuff, since it might point to important files that I need???


    2) A matter of curiosity: While I had one flashdrive plugged into the
    4-port hub, it had a Drive letter of E. When I plugged in a second one,
    it got E. and the first one got bumped up to F: That seems very strange
    and improper. What do you think?
    The hub has 4 ports and the first E: was plugged inot the farthest
    from the input cable. The next one was plugged in the 2nd from the
    cable. Do think this is he reason the new got the lower letter and
    evicted the first one>


    3) Number 3 is mostly a matter of curiosity: This was an old 16Gig,
    USB2 flash drive that still had some room on it so I just used it to
    test. It copied all the .txt files and was working on the .pdf files
    when the PC beeped, the cmd box said "Drive Full", the drives
    properties, which had reached 9GB used, now said 0 used and 0 free, but
    the light on the drive kept flashing for 10 minutes until I turned off
    the power to is using the switch on the hub.

    When I turned it back on Propeties now said it used 3 gigs but Folder
    Size, which adds up all the individual sizes says 63 gigs. 4x the size
    of the whole flashdrive. At first I thought it wa following the
    directory links from the problem mentioned in 1 above, but that was mmy laptop, not the flasdrive, which never had copied

    Meanwhile EVerything says there are 1200 pdf files in the destination
    drive, and every one I looked at worked fine. So it didn't delete
    anything when the drive got full.

    So why does Properties think it only has 3 gigs?


    Let's say we are working on the foreign D: drive

    explorer D:\users

    Say the owner name if Greg. We can open ZIP or 7ZIP and
    do an add-to-archive, and convert Greg into the entire
    user tree that the owner used to have.

    The archiving tools support uncompressed ("Store") mode
    and a compressed mode. The output can be stored in a
    single file, or in multiple 4GB files (like if working
    with FAT32 eventually). The 4GB files it makes, will be
    a few bytes short of the FAT32 limitation (as the assumption
    with a 4GB file, is that it is headed for FAT32 media).

    You can place the archive output greg.7z on your hard drive.
    The tool has an option for Self Extracting Archive (SFX), and
    while that isn't my preferred method, it should work for a
    USB-stick-present.

    In that way, you can capture the users home directory and
    send it to them. They can unpack it any place, as we attempted
    to make the archive a relative one, without absolute paths in it.

    *******

    For users who put folders all over the place, copying is harder
    to do, as you do not know where the materials are located.
    And the automation to do the analysis is just too complicated
    (character sets are the problem, wide characters, UTF-8,
    the tools don't all understand character sets and so on).

    I can make a command to generate a file list.
    I can manually issue a command to determine a file type.
    Like cygwin, these happen to run in Windows.

    $ find D:/bin -type f -printf "\"%p\"\n" # Zaretski port on Sourceforge

    "D:/bin/a/b/French Ç/test.txt"
    "D:/bin/a/b/test.txt"
    "D:/bin/a/test.txt"
    "D:/bin/test.txt"

    $ file "D:/bin/a/b/French Ç/test.txt" "D:/bin/test.txt"

    D:/bin/a/b/French Ç/test.txt: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators D:/bin/test.txt: Unicode text, UTF-8 text, with CRLF line terminators

    It's the glue steps to make a script out of that, which present
    a challenge. Regular users always leave hand-grenades in the file system,
    for your automation to trip over.

    Paul

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