• OT: Linux, Lenovo, and Catch 22

    From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Mar 25 14:39:25 2026
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    Hi All,

    I configured out a Lenovo Think Pad T14 for
    a customer yesterday.

    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/thinkpad-t14-gen-6-14-inch-intel/len101t0126

    I noticed something new: operating systems:

    Windows 11 home $0
    Windows 11 Pro +$44
    Linux UBooBoo -$45
    Linux Fedora -$45

    Yippee!!

    But, unfortunately, due to "Catch 22" (a no-win loop
    where the rule contradicts itself):

    You can’t get a job without experience, but you can’t
    get experience without a job.

    You need a credit history to get approved for a credit
    card, but you need a credit card to build credit history

    * The Catch 22 that wildly affects Linux: *

    Linux won’t get widely adopted until major commercial apps
    support it, but companies won’t build those apps until
    Linux is widely adopted.

    Software companies won’t invest in Linux because it lacks
    users, and users won’t switch to Linux because it lacks
    software.

    To make Linux popular, it needs mainstream apps—but those
    apps will only come after Linux is already popular.

    He went with Windows 11 Pro. I can defang it.

    :'(

    -T
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Mar 25 20:08:32 2026
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    On Wed, 3/25/2026 5:39 PM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I configured out a Lenovo Think Pad T14 for
    a customer yesterday.

    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/thinkpad-t14-gen-6-14-inch-intel/len101t0126

    I noticed something new: operating systems:

    Windows 11 home $0
    Windows 11 Pro  +$44
    Linux UBooBoo   -$45
    Linux Fedora    -$45

    Yippee!!

    But, unfortunately, due to "Catch 22" (a no-win loop
    where the rule contradicts itself):

         You can’t get a job without experience, but you can’t
         get experience without a job.

         You need a credit history to get approved for a credit
         card, but you need a credit card to build credit history

    * The Catch 22 that wildly affects Linux: *

        Linux won’t get widely adopted until major commercial apps
        support it, but companies won’t build those apps until
        Linux is widely adopted.

        Software companies won’t invest in Linux because it lacks
        users, and users won’t switch to Linux because it lacks
        software.

        To make Linux popular, it needs mainstream apps—but those
        apps will only come after Linux is already popular.

    He went with Windows 11 Pro.  I can defang it.

    At one time, this would be considered true.

    But there are more opportunities for "write once run anywhere",
    with things like Qt.

    For the Linux business case, we need the opportunity (may cover
    off making it for the platform, when we make the MacOS solution).
    But the real question is, how many Linux people will buy commercial
    software. I think Enterprise offers an opportunity (but not a large
    enough customer pool). Whereas it would be much harder to make
    a buck off the ordinary users. "You were thinking $39.95, the
    customers were thinking more like $3." And that's a reason to not
    be selling stuff into Linux.

    If you look at the winners and losers in the Microsoft Store,
    many devs don't even make enough for cup-of-noodles when they
    put an entry in the store. The percentage of real winners
    in the store (people can afford gas for their car), is not all
    that great.

    One of my friends is a serial entrepreneur, and it was my job
    to tell him every idea he had was stupid :-) For example, one
    idea was to gather those hubcaps you find on the side of the road,
    and... resell the cosmetically good ones. Which is certainly
    a good recycling project, but nobody is ever going to get
    rich selling used hubcaps.

    The manager at my tire store, used to sell used tires. He didn't
    get rich doing that, and that was more of a "customer loyalty"
    program, for people who would some day be rich enough for new tires.
    When you're doing business at the low end of the spectrum, the
    chances of "making it big" are pretty slim. And a $3 Linux software
    package will not "make retirement money". You need those MacOS users
    with the fat wallets.

    Paul


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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsQ==?=@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Mar 25 18:47:02 2026
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    On 3/25/2026 2:39 PM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I configured out a Lenovo Think Pad T14 for
    a customer yesterday.

    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/thinkpad-t14- gen-6-14-inch-intel/len101t0126

    I noticed something new: operating systems:

    Windows 11 home $0
    Windows 11 Pro  +$44
    Linux UBooBoo   -$45
    Linux Fedora    -$45

    Yippee!!

    But, unfortunately, due to "Catch 22" (a no-win loop
    where the rule contradicts itself):

         You can’t get a job without experience, but you can’t
         get experience without a job.

         You need a credit history to get approved for a credit
         card, but you need a credit card to build credit history

    * The Catch 22 that wildly affects Linux: *

        Linux won’t get widely adopted until major commercial apps
        support it, but companies won’t build those apps until
        Linux is widely adopted.

        Software companies won’t invest in Linux because it lacks
        users, and users won’t switch to Linux because it lacks
        software.

        To make Linux popular, it needs mainstream apps—but those
        apps will only come after Linux is already popular.

    He went with Windows 11 Pro.  I can defang it.

    :'(

    -T

    Good choice.
    Your noted $44[1] is unlikley a penalty when familiar with anything
    Windows. In fact that 3.5% is a bargain.
    So was the SmartCard at $0 and Backlit at $20, the $60 for the 512 GB
    M.2 is a toss-up, but if desired/needed later another bargain.

    [1] The web site(for the item you linked) indicates Win11 Pro is $40 not
    $44.
    Did you over quote and/or charge the customer?
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Mar 25 19:30:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 3/25/26 18:47, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    On 3/25/2026 2:39 PM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I configured out a Lenovo Think Pad T14 for
    a customer yesterday.

    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/thinkpad-
    t14- gen-6-14-inch-intel/len101t0126

    I noticed something new: operating systems:

    Windows 11 home $0
    Windows 11 Pro  +$44
    Linux UBooBoo   -$45
    Linux Fedora    -$45

    Yippee!!

    But, unfortunately, due to "Catch 22" (a no-win loop
    where the rule contradicts itself):

          You can’t get a job without experience, but you can’t
          get experience without a job.

          You need a credit history to get approved for a credit
          card, but you need a credit card to build credit history

    * The Catch 22 that wildly affects Linux: *

         Linux won’t get widely adopted until major commercial apps
         support it, but companies won’t build those apps until
         Linux is widely adopted.

         Software companies won’t invest in Linux because it lacks
         users, and users won’t switch to Linux because it lacks
         software.

         To make Linux popular, it needs mainstream apps—but those
         apps will only come after Linux is already popular.

    He went with Windows 11 Pro.  I can defang it.

    :'(

    -T

    Good choice.
     Your noted $44[1] is unlikley a penalty when familiar with anything Windows.  In fact that 3.5% is a bargain.
    So was the SmartCard at $0 and Backlit at $20, the $60 for the 512 GB
    M.2 is a toss-up, but if desired/needed later another bargain.

    [1] The web site(for the item you linked) indicates Win11 Pro is $40 not $44.
     Did you over quote and/or charge the customer?

    He ordered it yesterday
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