• Foreign Routers

    From WatchMan@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Mar 26 01:29:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Donald J. Trump, the insane, brain-damaged President of the United
    States, has banned all foreign-made routers with immediate effect. The
    fact sheet states:

    'New devices on the Covered List, such as foreign-made consumer-grade
    routers, are prohibited from receiving FCC authorisation and are
    therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the US. This update to the Covered List does not prohibit the import, sale or use of
    any existing device models that the FCC has previously authorised.'

    <https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-420034A1.pdf>
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Mar 28 20:13:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 3/25/26 18:29, WatchMan wrote:
    Donald J. Trump, the insane, brain-damaged President of the United
    States,

    TDS is a mental illness.

    And thank you for helping me update my kill file
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  • From Tim Slattery@TimSlattery@utexas.edu to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Mar 29 09:50:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/25/26 18:29, WatchMan wrote:
    Donald J. Trump, the insane, brain-damaged President of the United
    States,

    TDS is a mental illness.

    The symptoms include thinking that Trump has any sense at all!
    --
    Tim Slattery
    timslattery <at> utexas <dot> edu
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Mar 30 13:54:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 01:29:33 +0000, WatchMan wrote:

    Donald J. Trump, the insane, brain-damaged President of the United
    States, has banned all foreign-made routers with immediate effect. The
    fact sheet states:

    You think he knows the 'made in US' routers have foreign hardware?
    --
    s|b
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Mar 30 15:04:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 01:29:33 +0000, WatchMan wrote:

    Donald J. Trump, the insane, brain-damaged President of the United
    States, has banned all foreign-made routers with immediate effect. The fact sheet states:

    You think he knows the 'made in US' routers have foreign hardware?

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist mentioned that
    there is no such thing as 'a made in US router', not hardware wise and
    not firmware wise.

    To add insult to injury, they are banning security updates to existing routers. Yes, that's the way to improve/maintain security! NOT!
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  • From AJL@noemail@none.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Mar 30 10:04:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist mentioned that
    there is no such thing as 'a made in US router', not hardware wise
    and not firmware wise. To add insult to injury, they are banning
    security updates to existing routers. Yes, that's the way to
    improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O


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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Mar 30 18:54:44 2026
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    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist mentioned that
    there is no such thing as 'a made in US router', not hardware wise
    and not firmware wise. To add insult to injury, they are banning
    security updates to existing routers. Yes, that's the way to improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    A little while ago, I found out that my wife's Beelink Mini-PC is
    Chinese and earlier I found out that our 'Japanese' Kenwood SmartRadio
    is for the most essential part also Chinese. So we're doomed! :-)

    OTOH, these days if we have to choose between American and Chinese ...
    :-(
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Mar 30 17:51:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 3/29/26 06:50, Tim Slattery wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/25/26 18:29, WatchMan wrote:
    Donald J. Trump, the insane, brain-damaged President of the United
    States,

    TDS is a mental illness.

    The symptoms include thinking that Trump has any sense at all!


    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg032926dAPR-800x0.jpg
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Mar 30 21:27:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Mon, 3/30/2026 2:54 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist mentioned that
    there is no such thing as 'a made in US router', not hardware wise
    and not firmware wise. To add insult to injury, they are banning
    security updates to existing routers. Yes, that's the way to
    improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    A little while ago, I found out that my wife's Beelink Mini-PC is
    Chinese and earlier I found out that our 'Japanese' Kenwood SmartRadio
    is for the most essential part also Chinese. So we're doomed! :-)

    OTOH, these days if we have to choose between American and Chinese ...
    :-(


    You can re-program the routers with open source firmware.
    This does not work for every device, but it you're concerned
    about the lack of intelligence in the world, look for
    a new router with enough RAM and flash so you can reprogram it.

    If the router had a Broadcom SOC, I wouldn't be too concerned.
    We've been using a steady supply of those for a lot of years.
    When you track down the open source firmware for routers,
    there should be some mention of who makes the SOC. The firmware
    has to know the details of the SOC, to run it.

    Paul
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  • From John@Man@the.keyboard to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 07:20:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:

    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist mentioned that
    there is no such thing as 'a made in US router', not hardware wise
    and not firmware wise. To add insult to injury, they are banning
    security updates to existing routers. Yes, that's the way to
    improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?

    I know that "Red" China thinks Taiwan is part of China, and Taiwan
    thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan currently one of the
    very, very few "good countries" that USAlia counts as friendly?


    A little while ago, I found out that my wife's Beelink Mini-PC is
    Chinese and earlier I found out that our 'Japanese' Kenwood SmartRadio
    is for the most essential part also Chinese. So we're doomed! :-)

    Only if we stop trading with "Red" China because Taiwan can't
    possibly supply everyone with everything we need or want.


    OTOH, these days if we have to choose between American and Chinese ...
    :-(

    I was under the (I'm in UKland so forgive me if this is in error)
    impression that USAlia didn't make much electronic gear, not at the
    level of chips and parts. They may *assemble* stuff, as they do with
    motor cars and trucks but I thought they imported the bits?

    Isn't that why Trumpy Tarrifs add costs to everything in USofA?
    Because all of the basic parts are made in Asia?

    I know USAlia used to make lots of stuff but so did UKland. I'm not
    even sure that we make our own bread these days.

    When shopping, a couple of days ago, I saw that cooked, shelled
    prawns were grown in Venezuela. That's a hell of a journey for some
    little shellfish. But it does illustrate that modern technology is
    awesomely powerful and that our little City Culture is now highly
    complex and almost totally global.

    I'm just waiting for Nestles to start bottling comet waters.

    J.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 05:35:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Tue, 3/31/2026 2:20 AM, John wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:

    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist mentioned that
    there is no such thing as 'a made in US router', not hardware wise
    and not firmware wise. To add insult to injury, they are banning
    security updates to existing routers. Yes, that's the way to
    improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?


    As far as I know, this ban is on "any foreign country",
    and the ban is on processing the item through the FCC.
    You have to get some sort of approvals for things
    like RF emissions (or emissions in the wrong bands).

    You cannot get to the approval process, without applying
    for a waiver of some sort (no one will review your gadget
    without a "special" permission). Some units may still be imported
    (eventually) as a result. I don't know if the process can be
    appealed, can go through a court or not. Presumably the people
    who cooked this up, have thought of all of this beforehand.

    Whether a lot of kit is made in Taiwan or Vietnam, likely does
    not matter.

    Since existing routers already have passed through the FCC process,
    they are not pulling those approvals. They are not driving through
    the countryside and gathering up all the existing routers
    and burning them in a bonfire. It just means new models,
    maybe a unit with Wifi 8 won't get past the border (because
    it won't have FCC approval and the FCC won't work on it).

    Once the old models are MD (manufacturer discontinued),
    then things will get interesting.

    Paul

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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 20:49:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 31/03/2026 5:20 pm, John wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist
    mentioned that there is no such thing as 'a made in US router',
    not hardware wise and not firmware wise. To add insult to
    injury, they are banning security updates to existing routers.
    Yes, that's the way to improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in
    China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?

    I know that "Red" China thinks Taiwan is part of China,

    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or some
    such??

    and Taiwan thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan currently
    one of the very, very few "good countries" that USAlia counts as
    friendly?

    What's with this "USAlia" thing?? Are you trying to improve the
    appearance of U.S. of A. by associating it with Australia?? ;-P
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 11:02:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Daniel70 wrote:

    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or some
    such??

    Well, the "Chinese Dream" is to reincorporate ROC into PRC by the 100th anniversary of the latter, which is in 2049.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 22:23:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 31/03/2026 9:02 pm, Andy Burns wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or some
    such??

    Well, the "Chinese Dream" is to reincorporate ROC into PRC by the 100th anniversary of the latter, which is in 2049.

    Back a few years, you could see that Taiwan was doing sooooo much better
    than Mainland China, you could understand why China would have wanted to re-absorb Taiwan .... but, now-a-days, China is doing pretty good on its
    own.
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 19:46:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 3/26/2026 9:29 AM, WatchMan wrote:
    Donald J. Trump, the insane, brain-damaged President of the United
    States, has banned all foreign-made routers with immediate effect. The
    fact sheet states:

    Avoid TP-Link! It's made in China! :)
    --
    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 19:47:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 3/30/2026 7:54 PM, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 01:29:33 +0000, WatchMan wrote:

    Donald J. Trump, the insane, brain-damaged President of the United
    States, has banned all foreign-made routers with immediate effect. The
    fact sheet states:

    You think he knows the 'made in US' routers have foreign hardware?


    The trick is to flash these US routers with foreign spy firmware using a secured remote connection! :)
    --
    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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  • From John@Man@the.keyboard to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 13:04:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 05:35:11 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 3/31/2026 2:20 AM, John wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:

    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist mentioned that >>>>> there is no such thing as 'a made in US router', not hardware wise
    and not firmware wise. To add insult to injury, they are banning
    security updates to existing routers. Yes, that's the way to
    improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?


    As far as I know, this ban is on "any foreign country",
    and the ban is on processing the item through the FCC.
    You have to get some sort of approvals for things
    like RF emissions (or emissions in the wrong bands).

    You cannot get to the approval process, without applying
    for a waiver of some sort (no one will review your gadget
    without a "special" permission). Some units may still be imported >(eventually) as a result. I don't know if the process can be
    appealed, can go through a court or not. Presumably the people
    who cooked this up, have thought of all of this beforehand.

    Whether a lot of kit is made in Taiwan or Vietnam, likely does
    not matter.

    Okay. Thank you. Bloody typical bureaucrats, yes?


    Since existing routers already have passed through the FCC process,
    they are not pulling those approvals. They are not driving through
    the countryside and gathering up all the existing routers
    and burning them in a bonfire.

    *Y*E*T*!*

    Perhaps we shouldn't be giving them new ideas, though? :)

    It just means new models,
    maybe a unit with Wifi 8 won't get past the border (because
    it won't have FCC approval and the FCC won't work on it).

    Once the old models are MD (manufacturer discontinued),
    then things will get interesting.

    "Interesting" as in the alleged Chinese curse "may you live in
    interesting times", yes?

    We already do, friend.

    And they are so for all of the wrong reasons.

    Thank you,

    J.


    Paul
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 15:06:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 21:27:33 -0400, Paul wrote:

    You can re-program the routers with open source firmware.

    Like dd-wrt and OpenWrt?
    --
    s|b
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  • From John@Man@the.keyboard to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 14:19:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 20:49:26 +1100, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 31/03/2026 5:20 pm, John wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist
    mentioned that there is no such thing as 'a made in US router',
    not hardware wise and not firmware wise. To add insult to
    injury, they are banning security updates to existing routers.
    Yes, that's the way to improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in
    China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?

    I know that "Red" China thinks Taiwan is part of China,

    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or some
    such??

    Really?

    Isn't it the other way around? The *real* Chinese government moved
    off-shore a while back and wants to go home to claim its rightful
    place in the Sunlight.


    and Taiwan thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan currently
    one of the very, very few "good countries" that USAlia counts as
    friendly?

    What's with this "USAlia" thing?? Are you trying to improve the
    appearance of U.S. of A. by associating it with Australia?? ;-P

    You don't have a name, so I gave you two to choose from:

    USofA and its demonym USofAn

    and

    USAlia and USAlien.

    I prefer the latter because y'all are weird. Lovely at times but
    definitely weird.

    No, you are *not* the only "Americans". That term includes everyone
    from pole to pole including the bears. *Canadians* are "Americans", as
    are Mexicans and Perubians.

    Please don't tell the Canadians that I said that. :)



    J.




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  • From Tim Slattery@TimSlattery@utexas.edu to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 10:10:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or some
    such??

    No. I think you're confusing it a bit with Hong Kong. Hong Kong was a
    British colony, which the Brits had on a long term lease which ended
    in 1997. (I think that's accurate.) At any rate, the Brits had to hand
    it back to China in 1997, and Beijing has been tightening its grip
    ever since. No such thing applies to Taiwan, but Beijing does consider
    Taiwan to belong to China. The Taiwanese disagree.

    and Taiwan thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan currently
    one of the very, very few "good countries" that USAlia counts as
    friendly?

    The US considers Taiwan an ally, yes.
    --
    Tim Slattery
    timslattery <at> utexas <dot> edu
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 18:30:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 20:49:26 +1100, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [...]

    What's with this "USAlia" thing?? Are you trying to improve the
    appearance of U.S. of A. by associating it with Australia?? ;-P

    You don't have a name, so I gave you two to choose from:

    USofA and its demonym USofAn

    and

    USAlia and USAlien.

    I prefer the latter because y'all are weird. Lovely at times but
    definitely weird.

    FYI, Daniel70 is an Aussie (Australian), not a US citizen ('seppo' in
    Strine (slang for Australian (the language))).

    [...]
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Mar 31 18:30:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:

    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist mentioned that
    there is no such thing as 'a made in US router', not hardware wise
    and not firmware wise. To add insult to injury, they are banning
    security updates to existing routers. Yes, that's the way to
    improve/maintain security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?

    Yes, but my kit which I mentioned (see quote below) is made in
    'Red'/mainland China.

    I know that "Red" China thinks Taiwan is part of China, and Taiwan
    thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan currently one of the
    very, very few "good countries" that USAlia counts as friendly?

    Sadly these days, it no longer matters who the US considers to be
    friendly countries and vice versa! :-(

    [Left for reference:]
    A little while ago, I found out that my wife's Beelink Mini-PC is
    Chinese and earlier I found out that our 'Japanese' Kenwood SmartRadio
    is for the most essential part also Chinese. So we're doomed! :-)

    Only if we stop trading with "Red" China because Taiwan can't
    possibly supply everyone with everything we need or want.


    OTOH, these days if we have to choose between American and Chinese ...
    :-(

    [...]
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  • From Trump is a pussy@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 1 05:00:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 31/03/2026 15:10, Tim Slattery wrote:
    The US considers Taiwan an ally, yes.


    I doubt Trump would ever attack China if the Chinese army moved its
    tanks to Taiwan.

    Trump is a wimp. He can attack Venezuela, Iran or Nigeria because they
    don't have nuclear weapons, but not Russia, China or India.







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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 1 21:11:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 1/04/2026 12:19 am, John wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 20:49:26 +1100, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 31/03/2026 5:20 pm, John wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg
    <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist
    mentioned that there is no such thing as 'a made in US
    router', not hardware wise and not firmware wise. To add
    insult to injury, they are banning security updates to
    existing routers. Yes, that's the way to improve/maintain
    security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in
    China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?

    I know that "Red" China thinks Taiwan is part of China,

    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or
    some such??

    Really?

    Isn't it the other way around? The *real* Chinese government moved
    off-shore a while back and wants to go home to claim its rightful
    place in the Sunlight.

    and Taiwan thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan
    currently one of the very, very few "good countries" that USAlia
    counts as friendly?

    What's with this "USAlia" thing?? Are you trying to improve the
    appearance of U.S. of A. by associating it with Australia?? ;-P

    You don't have a name, so I gave you two to choose from:

    USofA and its demonym USofAn

    and

    USAlia and USAlien.

    I prefer the latter because y'all are weird. Lovely at times but
    definitely weird.

    No, you are *not* the only "Americans". That term includes everyone
    from pole to pole including the bears. *Canadians* are "Americans",
    as are Mexicans and Perubians.

    Please don't tell the Canadians that I said that. :)

    Usually, when people here-abouts talk about 'America', I respond along
    the lines of "America. Is that Argentina?? Brazil?? Canada?? .... ".

    Strangely, nobody seems able to answer THAT question.
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    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 1 21:13:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 1/04/2026 5:30 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 20:49:26 +1100, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [...]

    What's with this "USAlia" thing?? Are you trying to improve the
    appearance of U.S. of A. by associating it with Australia?? ;-P

    You don't have a name, so I gave you two to choose from:

    USofA and its demonym USofAn

    and

    USAlia and USAlien.

    I prefer the latter because y'all are weird. Lovely at times but
    definitely weird.

    FYI, Daniel70 is an Aussie (Australian),

    Correct.

    not a US citizen ('seppo' in Strine (slang for Australian (the
    language))).

    [...]

    And 'Yank' also suits as descriptive for a U.S. of A.ian.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 1 21:29:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 1/04/2026 1:10 am, Tim Slattery wrote:
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or
    some such??

    No. I think you're confusing it a bit with Hong Kong. Hong Kong was a
    British colony, which the Brits had on a long term lease which ended
    in 1997. (I think that's accurate.)

    I think the HK hand back occurred in 1996. I was in HK just before hand.

    At any rate, the Brits had to hand it back to China in 1997, and
    Beijing has been tightening its grip ever since. No such thing
    applies to Taiwan, but Beijing does consider Taiwan to belong to
    China. The Taiwanese disagree.

    I thought the Taiwanese though mainland China belonged to them, too.

    and Taiwan thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan
    currently one of the very, very few "good countries" that USAlia
    counts as friendly?

    The US considers Taiwan an ally, yes.

    --
    Daniel70
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  • From John@Man@the.keyboard to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 1 23:39:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 21:11:18 +1100, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 1/04/2026 12:19 am, John wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 20:49:26 +1100, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 31/03/2026 5:20 pm, John wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg
    <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist
    mentioned that there is no such thing as 'a made in US
    router', not hardware wise and not firmware wise. To add
    insult to injury, they are banning security updates to
    existing routers. Yes, that's the way to improve/maintain
    security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in
    China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?

    I know that "Red" China thinks Taiwan is part of China,

    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or
    some such??

    Really?

    Isn't it the other way around? The *real* Chinese government moved
    off-shore a while back and wants to go home to claim its rightful
    place in the Sunlight.

    and Taiwan thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan
    currently one of the very, very few "good countries" that USAlia
    counts as friendly?

    What's with this "USAlia" thing?? Are you trying to improve the
    appearance of U.S. of A. by associating it with Australia?? ;-P

    You don't have a name, so I gave you two to choose from:

    USofA and its demonym USofAn

    and

    USAlia and USAlien.

    I prefer the latter because y'all are weird. Lovely at times but
    definitely weird.

    No, you are *not* the only "Americans". That term includes everyone
    from pole to pole including the bears. *Canadians* are "Americans",
    as are Mexicans and Perubians.

    Please don't tell the Canadians that I said that. :)

    Usually, when people here-abouts talk about 'America', I respond along
    the lines of "America. Is that Argentina?? Brazil?? Canada?? .... ".

    Strangely, nobody seems able to answer THAT question.

    Perhaps, you should ask them "'America'? Do you mean 'Mexico'?", that
    would certainly bother a whole herd of USAliens.

    The type of USofAns who would reject the notion of Mexicans being
    "Americans" are also those least likely to know that your choices
    *are* in "America".


    J.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Apr 2 20:11:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2/04/2026 9:39 am, John wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 21:11:18 +1100, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 1/04/2026 12:19 am, John wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 20:49:26 +1100, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 31/03/2026 5:20 pm, John wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2026 18:54:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg
    <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 8:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    A recent CNET article by a long time router specialist
    mentioned that there is no such thing as 'a made in US
    router', not hardware wise and not firmware wise. To add
    insult to injury, they are banning security updates to
    existing routers. Yes, that's the way to improve/maintain
    security! NOT!

    I use a router supplied by my ISP... :-O

    Me too. It's probably also made in
    China/Korea/<insert_'bad'_country>.

    Isn't a lot of kit made in Taiwan?

    I know that "Red" China thinks Taiwan is part of China,

    Isn't Taiwan supposed to be handed back to 'Red' China in 2049 or
    some such??

    Really?

    Isn't it the other way around? The *real* Chinese government moved
    off-shore a while back and wants to go home to claim its rightful
    place in the Sunlight.

    and Taiwan thinks she's the *Real* China, but isn't Taiwan
    currently one of the very, very few "good countries" that USAlia
    counts as friendly?

    What's with this "USAlia" thing?? Are you trying to improve the
    appearance of U.S. of A. by associating it with Australia?? ;-P

    You don't have a name, so I gave you two to choose from:

    USofA and its demonym USofAn

    and

    USAlia and USAlien.

    I prefer the latter because y'all are weird. Lovely at times but
    definitely weird.

    No, you are *not* the only "Americans". That term includes everyone
    from pole to pole including the bears. *Canadians* are "Americans",
    as are Mexicans and Perubians.

    Please don't tell the Canadians that I said that. :)

    Usually, when people here-abouts talk about 'America', I respond along
    the lines of "America. Is that Argentina?? Brazil?? Canada?? .... ".

    Strangely, nobody seems able to answer THAT question.

    Perhaps, you should ask them "'America'? Do you mean 'Mexico'?", that
    would certainly bother a whole herd of USAliens.

    I thought if I worked my way ..... A. .....B. .....C. .... they'd have a
    clue what I was on about .... but, maybe Not!! ;-P

    The type of USofAns who would reject the notion of Mexicans being
    "Americans" are also those least likely to know that your choices
    *are* in "America".

    Yeap.
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    Daniel70
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