You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in the first
place, and why there weren't multiple backups made before transferring
to iPlayer. :-\
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found"
in the first place, and why there weren't multiple backups
made before transferring to iPlayer. :-\
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in the first
place, and why there weren't multiple backups made before transferring
to iPlayer. :-\
The BBC Accidentally Wipes Newly-Recovered Episodes
of Doctor Who: The Daleks' Master Plan
---------------------------------------------------
The BBC has issued an official apology after wiping The Nightmare Begins
and Devil's Planet, the newly-recovered episodes of Doctor Who classic,
The Daleks' Master Plan.
Despite being recovered by Film is Fabulous!, two episodes of the First
Doctor serial were returned to the BBC, but in the process of uploading
them to streaming service, BBC iPlayer, the corporation accidentally
wiped them again.
A spokesperson for the BBC apologised for the mistake, and continued:
"The issue seems to have occurred when uploading the restored serial to
iPlayer for viewers to watch over the Easter weekend. During upload, we
experienced some downtime and the episodes subsequently disappeared,
meaning they're effectively missing, believed wiped, from our digital
library."
Current rumours on social media suggest that digital duplicates were
taken by a BBC employee before the incident and that the downtime was
premeditated in order to bump up the value of these illegal acquisitions.
At this point, though, these are solely rumours and the BBC has refused
to comment further.
Unfortunately, Film is Fabulous! can't immediately restore the Doctor Who
episodes as the original reels have been given back to the family of the
collector who had left their collection to be safely restored.
Justin Smith, chair of trustees at Film is Fabulous!, said: "We're
working once more with the estate to try to ensure these episodes are
copied and given back to the BBC; however, after the enthusiasm from fans
following the initial announcement, family members are reluctant to hand
them over once more, claiming the BBC cannot be trusted with Doctor Who.
Frankly, it's hard to disagree.
"While we appreciate fans' disappointment at this time, we ask for your
patience in this matter as we try to resolve complications between the
estate and the BBC."
Needless to say, this is a horribly sad situation and we hope a
resolution can be found sooner rather than later.
Though The Nightmare Begins and Devil's Planet are again missing from the
archives, some remaining episodes of The Daleks' Master Plan are still
available to watch on BBC iPlayer and on the Lost in Time DVD.
<https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2026/04/01/the-bbc-accidentally-wipes-newly-recovered-episodes-of-doctor-who-the-daleks-master-plan/>
In article <10qie99$3vvpp$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in the first
place, and why there weren't multiple backups made before transferring
to iPlayer. :-\
And on today, of all days...
--
Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
love this country.
Your Name wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found"
in the first place, and why there weren't multiple backups
made before transferring to iPlayer. :-\
The thing is... nobody would have been surprised if it actually
did happen!!!
In article <10qie99$3vvpp$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in the first
place, and why there weren't multiple backups made before transferring
to iPlayer. :-\
And on today, of all days...
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10qie99$3vvpp$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in the first
place, and why there weren't multiple backups made before transferring
to iPlayer. :-\
And on today, of all days...
Look on the bright side. At least Panorama’s film of the
spaghetti harvest still exists.
----
solar penguin
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
Update: Okay, as many of you thought, this is an April Fool's gag
- of course the BBC hasn't deleted Doctor Who! I mean, can
you imagine?! In fact, you'll be able to see the two
episodes of The Daleks' Master Plan on Good Friday if you
live in the UK!
<https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2026/04/01/the-bbc-accidentally-wipes-newly-recovered-episodes-of-doctor-who-the-daleks-master-plan/>
Update: Okay, as many of you thought, this is an April Fool's gag -
of course the BBC hasn't deleted Doctor Who! I mean, can you
imagine?!
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 10:49:49 +1300, Your Name wrote:
Update: Okay, as many of you thought, this is an April Fool's gag -
of course the BBC hasn't deleted Doctor Who! I mean, can you
imagine?!
Of course I can imagine. And so can lots of other people.
Big organizations like the BBC have done exactly this sort of stupid
thing, and worse, in the past, more than once. So of course it seemed >entirely plausible that they had done something like this yet again.
Well you guys ended up being the April Fools.
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:25:46 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
Well you guys ended up being the April Fools.
You didn’t go “nyah nyah”.
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
In article <xn0po1r6ecs3j4t001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
He got caught!
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:25:46 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
Well you guys ended up being the April Fools.
You didn’t go “nyah nyah”.
Lawrence is an April fool.
It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get. Those two
newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised, restored
and given private screenings.
On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 13:11:24 GMT, Blueshirt wrote:
It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been
digitised, restored and given private screenings.
But without backups in other hands besides the BBC’s, still
all too possible ...
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
On 2026-04-02 10:30:51 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
Nothing would surprise me with the BBC. :-p
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 21:02:48 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 13:11:24 GMT, Blueshirt wrote:
It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get. Those
two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
But without backups in other hands besides the BBC’s, still all too
possible ...
Well, obviously it's the BBC... so anything could happen! But I'd
assume the people in charge of taking care of the tins of film would
be a bit more dedicated than the people who were charged with
looking after those episodes in the 1960's!
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-02 10:30:51 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
Nothing would surprise me with the BBC. :-p
:)
It happens... pay attention next year! ;-)
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in the first
place, and why there weren't multiple backups made before transferring
to iPlayer. :-\
The BBC Accidentally Wipes Newly-Recovered Episodes
of Doctor Who: The Daleks' Master Plan
---------------------------------------------------
The BBC has issued an official apology after wiping The Nightmare Begins
and Devil's Planet, the newly-recovered episodes of Doctor Who classic,
The Daleks' Master Plan.
Despite being recovered by Film is Fabulous!, two episodes of the First
Doctor serial were returned to the BBC, but in the process of uploading
them to streaming service, BBC iPlayer, the corporation accidentally
wiped them again.
A spokesperson for the BBC apologised for the mistake, and continued:
"The issue seems to have occurred when uploading the restored serial to
iPlayer for viewers to watch over the Easter weekend. During upload, we
experienced some downtime and the episodes subsequently disappeared,
meaning they're effectively missing, believed wiped, from our digital
library."
Current rumours on social media suggest that digital duplicates were
taken by a BBC employee before the incident and that the downtime was
premeditated in order to bump up the value of these illegal acquisitions.
At this point, though, these are solely rumours and the BBC has refused
to comment further.
Unfortunately, Film is Fabulous! can't immediately restore the
Doctor Who
episodes as the original reels have been given back to the family of the
collector who had left their collection to be safely restored.
Justin Smith, chair of trustees at Film is Fabulous!, said: "We're
working once more with the estate to try to ensure these episodes are
copied and given back to the BBC; however, after the enthusiasm from fans
following the initial announcement, family members are reluctant to hand
them over once more, claiming the BBC cannot be trusted with Doctor Who.
Frankly, it's hard to disagree.
"While we appreciate fans' disappointment at this time, we ask for your
patience in this matter as we try to resolve complications between the
estate and the BBC."
Needless to say, this is a horribly sad situation and we hope a
resolution can be found sooner rather than later.
Though The Nightmare Begins and Devil's Planet are again missing
from the
archives, some remaining episodes of The Daleks' Master Plan are still
available to watch on BBC iPlayer and on the Lost in Time DVD.
<https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2026/04/01/the-bbc-accidentally- wipes-newly-recovered-episodes-of-doctor-who-the-daleks-master-plan/>
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1r6ecs3j4t001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
He got caught!
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could
get. Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been
digitised, restored and given private screenings.
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 11:18:46 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor pouted:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:25:46 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
Well you guys ended up being the April Fools.
You didn’t go “nyah nyah”.
Lawrence is an April fool.
That’s all you know how to say, isn’t it? I told you, try adding “nyah >nyah”, at least to vary the effect a little bit -- and take you up a
grade level or two.
On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 13:11:24 GMT, Blueshirt wrote:
It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get. Those two
newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised, restored
and given private screenings.
But without backups in other hands besides the BBC’s, still all too >possible ...
On 2026-04-02 10:30:51 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
Nothing would surprise me with the BBC. :-p
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-02 10:30:51 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
Nothing would surprise me with the BBC. :-p
:)
It happens... pay attention next year! ;-)
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 22:40:17 +0100, Blueshirt wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 21:02:48 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 13:11:24 GMT, Blueshirt wrote:
It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get. Those
two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
But without backups in other hands besides the BBC’s, still all too
possible ...
Well, obviously it's the BBC... so anything could happen! But I'd
assume the people in charge of taking care of the tins of film would
be a bit more dedicated than the people who were charged with
looking after those episodes in the 1960's!
More modern technology -- more modern, more complicated, more
opportunities to screw things up ... what could possibly go wrong?
On 2026-04-02 22:00:20 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-02 10:30:51 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
Nothing would surprise me with the BBC. :-p
:)
It happens... pay attention next year! ;-)
Usually I don't bother reposting any "news" for the two days it takes
April Idiot's Day to make it' ways around the globe, but I forgot April
had started when doing a couple of recent ones.
Any website, newspaper, etc. that wants to be taken seriously for news
and information should not publish silly joke posts without maing it
100% clear at the top that they are just jokes.
On 01/04/2026 07:34, Your Name wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in the first
place, and why there weren't multiple backups made before transferring
to iPlayer. :-\
It looks like they've wiped the episodes again just like you said. No
sign of episodes 1 and 3 of The Daleks' Master Plan on BBC iPlayer two
and a half hours after midnight on Good Friday when they were supposed
to have been uploaded.
The BBC Accidentally Wipes Newly-Recovered Episodes
of Doctor Who: The Daleks' Master Plan
---------------------------------------------------
The BBC has issued an official apology after wiping The Nightmare
Begins
and Devil's Planet, the newly-recovered episodes of Doctor Who classic,
The Daleks' Master Plan.
Despite being recovered by Film is Fabulous!, two episodes of the First
Doctor serial were returned to the BBC, but in the process of uploading
them to streaming service, BBC iPlayer, the corporation accidentally >> wiped them again.
A spokesperson for the BBC apologised for the mistake, and continued: >> "The issue seems to have occurred when uploading the restored serial to
iPlayer for viewers to watch over the Easter weekend. During upload, we
experienced some downtime and the episodes subsequently disappeared, >> meaning they're effectively missing, believed wiped, from our digital >> library."
Current rumours on social media suggest that digital duplicates were >> taken by a BBC employee before the incident and that the downtime was >> premeditated in order to bump up the value of these illegal
acquisitions.
At this point, though, these are solely rumours and the BBC has refused
to comment further.
Unfortunately, Film is Fabulous! can't immediately restore the
Doctor Who
episodes as the original reels have been given back to the family of >> the
collector who had left their collection to be safely restored.
Justin Smith, chair of trustees at Film is Fabulous!, said: "We're
working once more with the estate to try to ensure these episodes are >> copied and given back to the BBC; however, after the enthusiasm from >> fans
following the initial announcement, family members are reluctant to >> hand
them over once more, claiming the BBC cannot be trusted with Doctor >> Who.
Frankly, it's hard to disagree.
"While we appreciate fans' disappointment at this time, we ask for your
patience in this matter as we try to resolve complications between the >> estate and the BBC."
Needless to say, this is a horribly sad situation and we hope a
resolution can be found sooner rather than later.
Though The Nightmare Begins and Devil's Planet are again missing
from the
archives, some remaining episodes of The Daleks' Master Plan are still >> available to watch on BBC iPlayer and on the Lost in Time DVD.
<https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2026/04/01/the-bbc-accidentally-
wipes-newly-recovered-episodes-of-doctor-who-the-daleks-master-plan/>
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
WEll you fell for an Arpil Fools' Joke! Ha! Ha!!
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
Update: Okay, as many of you thought, this is an April Fool's gag
- of course the BBC hasn't deleted Doctor Who! I mean, can
you imagine?! In fact, you'll be able to see the two
episodes of The Daleks' Master Plan on Good Friday if you
live in the UK!
<https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2026/04/01/the-bbc-accidentally-wipes-newly-recovered-episodes-of-doctor-who-the-daleks-master-plan/>
In article <10qkbe7$lpr3$4@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 10:49:49 +1300, Your Name wrote:
Update: Okay, as many of you thought, this is an April Fool's gag -
of course the BBC hasn't deleted Doctor Who! I mean, can you
imagine?!
Of course I can imagine. And so can lots of other people.
Big organizations like the BBC have done exactly this sort of stupid
thing, and worse, in the past, more than once. So of course it seemed
entirely plausible that they had done something like this yet again.
Well you guys ended up being the April Fools.
In article <10qmlft$1dic3$10@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 11:18:46 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor pouted:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:25:46 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
Well you guys ended up being the April Fools.
You didn’t go “nyah nyahâ€.
Lawrence is an April fool.
That’s all you know how to say, isn’t it? I told you, try adding “nyah
nyahâ€, at least to vary the effect a little bit -- and take you up a >> grade level or two.
WEll you fell for an Arpil Fools' Joke! Ha! Ha!!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1r6ecs3j4t001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
He got caught!
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could
get. Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been
digitised, restored and given private screenings.
On 01/04/2026 07:34, Your Name wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in
the first place, and why there weren't multiple backups
made before transferring to iPlayer. :-\
It looks like they've wiped the episodes again just like you
said. No sign of episodes 1 and 3 of The Daleks' Master Plan
on BBC iPlayer two and a half hours after midnight on Good
Friday when they were supposed to have been uploaded.
On 4/2/26 6:11 AM, Blueshirt wrote:
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been
digitised, restored and given private screenings.
I never heard of that and likely there are others
who didn't hear of it either.
The good news is there are two newly discovered episodes
of Black And White Doctor Who and there's a chance we
could see it!
Or has it been too "restored" aka fake colour, cropping,
stretching, muffled by noise reduction, fake surround sound,
edited, new sound effects, etc.
That would be a joke too, but not a funny one, too plausible
when so many studios say that the word "restore" means
revisionism!
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:49:10 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
WEll you fell for an Arpil Fools' Joke! Ha! Ha!!
“Arpil” ... riiiiggghht ...
On 4/1/26 2:49 PM, Your Name wrote:
Friday if you
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
Update: Okay, as many of you thought, this is an April Fool's gag
- of course the BBC hasn't deleted Doctor Who! I >mean, can
you imagine?! In fact, you'll be able to see the two >> episodes of The Daleks' Master Plan on Good
live in the UK!
<https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2026/04/01/the-bbc-accidentally-wipes-newly-recovered-episodes-of-doctor-who-the-daleks-master-plan/>
Not a funny April Fools joke, as a TV Network not keeping
backups of their property is still too plausible.
Now how about if they apologized for wiping so many old
episodes and wiped some new episodes to even the score?
Or decided it was time to refund license fees?
On 4/1/26 7:25 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10qkbe7$lpr3$4@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 10:49:49 +1300, Your Name wrote:
Update: Okay, as many of you thought, this is an April Fool's gag -
of course the BBC hasn't deleted Doctor Who! I mean, can you
imagine?!
Of course I can imagine. And so can lots of other people.
Big organizations like the BBC have done exactly this sort of stupid
thing, and worse, in the past, more than once. So of course it seemed
entirely plausible that they had done something like this yet again.
Well you guys ended up being the April Fools.
The aggressor is not the believer in the lie but the
teller of the lie.
On 4/2/26 6:49 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10qmlft$1dic3$10@dont-email.me>,try adding “nyah
Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 11:18:46 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor pouted:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 02:25:46 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
Well you guys ended up being the April Fools.
You didn’t go “nyah nyahâ€.
Lawrence is an April fool.
That’s all you know how to say, isn’t it? I told you,
nyahâ€, at least to vary the effect a little bit -- and take you up a >>> grade level or two.
WEll you fell for an Arpil Fools' Joke! Ha! Ha!!
I fell too, because the joke was too plausible to appear to be
a joke, like I see others have pointed out.
On 4/2/26 6:11 AM, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1r6ecs3j4t001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Your Name wrote:
D'oh!! I forgot it was "April Idiots Day". :-(
You mean... you thought it was real?!
<Face palm!>
He got caught!
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could
get. Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been
digitised, restored and given private screenings.
I never heard of that and likely there are others
who didn't hear of it either.
The good news is there are two newly discovered episodes
of Black And White Doctor Who and there's a chance we
could see it!
Or has it been too "restored" aka fake colour, cropping,
stretching, muffled by noise reduction, fake surround sound,
edited, new sound effects, etc. That would be a joke too,
but not a funny one, too plausible when so many studios say
that the word "restore" means revisionism!
The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/04/2026 07:34, Your Name wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in
the first place, and why there weren't multiple backups
made before transferring to iPlayer. :-\
It looks like they've wiped the episodes again just like you
said. No sign of episodes 1 and 3 of The Daleks' Master Plan
on BBC iPlayer two and a half hours after midnight on Good
Friday when they were supposed to have been uploaded.
I thought it was supposed to be 6:00am this morning?
Pluted Pup wrote:
On 4/2/26 6:11 AM, Blueshirt wrote:
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been
digitised, restored and given private screenings.
I never heard of that and likely there are others
who didn't hear of it either.
True.
The good news is there are two newly discovered episodes
of Black And White Doctor Who and there's a chance we
could see it!
Soon... hopefully!
Or has it been too "restored" aka fake colour, cropping,
stretching, muffled by noise reduction, fake surround sound,
edited, new sound effects, etc.
From what I understand it means cleaned up and restored to
broadcast quality... after the films had been sitting in their
tins in a box for fifty years!
That would be a joke too, but not a funny one, too plausible
when so many studios say that the word "restore" means
revisionism!
The colourised Dalek's Master Plan "special edition" - with
enhanced effects - will happen when a few more episodes have
been recovered! :)
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/04/2026 07:34, Your Name wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in
the first place, and why there weren't multiple backups
made before transferring to iPlayer. :-\
It looks like they've wiped the episodes again just like you
said. No sign of episodes 1 and 3 of The Daleks' Master Plan
on BBC iPlayer two and a half hours after midnight on Good
Friday when they were supposed to have been uploaded.
I thought it was supposed to be 6:00am this morning?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
On 03/04/2026 09:59, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/04/2026 07:34, Your Name wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in
the first place, and why there weren't multiple backups
made before transferring to iPlayer. :-\
It looks like they've wiped the episodes again just like you
said. No sign of episodes 1 and 3 of The Daleks' Master Plan
on BBC iPlayer two and a half hours after midnight on Good
Friday when they were supposed to have been uploaded.
I thought it was supposed to be 6:00am this morning?
Why did they choose to release the episodes when most people were in bed?
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 2026-04-04 23:36:29 +0000, Lawrence DOliveiro said:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels
like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net
often have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix / >Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
On 03/04/2026 09:59, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/04/2026 07:34, Your Name wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in
the first place, and why there weren't multiple backups
made before transferring to iPlayer. :-\
It looks like they've wiped the episodes again just like you
said. No sign of episodes 1 and 3 of The Daleks' Master Plan
on BBC iPlayer two and a half hours after midnight on Good
Friday when they were supposed to have been uploaded.
I thought it was supposed to be 6:00am this morning?
Why did they choose to release the episodes when most people were in bed?
On 5/04/2026 11:02 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/04/2026 09:59, Blueshirt wrote:If YOU were a real serious Fan, you'd stay up!!
The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/04/2026 07:34, Your Name wrote:
You have to wonder if they were ever actually "found" in
the first place, and why there weren't multiple backups
made before transferring to iPlayer. :-\
It looks like they've wiped the episodes again just like you
said. No sign of episodes 1 and 3 of The Daleks' Master Plan
on BBC iPlayer two and a half hours after midnight on Good
Friday when they were supposed to have been uploaded.
I thought it was supposed to be 6:00am this morning?
Why did they choose to release the episodes when most people were in bed?
----
Daniel70
On 2026-04-04 23:36:29 +0000, Lawrence D´Oliveiro said:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels
like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite easy
for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net often
have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix / Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:accidentally
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear
on and disappear from various streaming services whenever
the provider feels like it (one of the many reason streaming
"sux"), so it would quite easy for a show to be
lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net often have a news item
saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix / Amazon Prime
/ Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium they
are stored on.
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-04 23:36:29 +0000, Lawrence D´Oliveiro said:Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the shows from >existence by destroying or erasing the medium they are stored on.
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels
like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite easy
for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net often
have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix / Amazon
Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
----
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky >dirty old man.
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:accidentally
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear
on and disappear from various streaming services whenever
the provider feels like it (one of the many reason streaming
"sux"), so it would quite easy for a show to be
lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net often have a news itemNot the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix / Amazon Prime
/ Disney+ / etc. "soon".
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium they
are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels
like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net
often have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix / >>> Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium they
are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-04 23:36:29 +0000, Lawrence DOliveiro said:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised,
restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels
like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net
often have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix /
Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium they are stored on.
On 2026-04-05 16:11:23 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider
feels like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would
quite easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like
ComingSoon.net often have a news item saying that a show / movie is >>>> leaving Netflix / Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium they
are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
Maybe, maybe not.
Disney is a "good" example where they have limted releases (whether that
was VHS, DVD, or streaming) and then you can't get it any more.
They
*should* of courser still have the original material locked away in
their vaults, but problems do happens that mean it can be lost. They
would then be relying on those that bought the limied releases to be
able to resurrect the show / movie ... just like the BBC is relying on others for the missing episodes of various old shows.
On 2026-04-05 15:42:17 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-04 23:36:29 +0000, Lawrence D´Oliveiro said:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised, >>>>>> restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels
like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net
often have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving
Netflix / Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the shows from
existence by destroying or erasing the medium they are stored on.
They do usually erase it from their servers. If it is under license,
then they would be required to delete it.
On 2026-04-05 16:11:23 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels >>>> like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net >>>> often have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix / >>>> Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium they
are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
Maybe, maybe not.
Disney is a "good" example where they have limted releases (whether
that was VHS, DVD, or streaming) and then you can't get it any more.
They *should* of courser still have the original material locked away
in their vaults, but problems do happens that mean it can be lost. They >would then be relying on those that bought the limied releases to be
able to resurrect the show / movie ... just like the BBC is relying on >others for the missing episodes of various old shows.
On 2026-04-05 15:42:17 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-04 23:36:29 +0000, Lawrence DOliveiro said:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get.
Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised, >>>>>> restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels
like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net
often have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving Netflix /
Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the shows from
existence by destroying or erasing the medium they are stored on.
They do usually erase it from their servers. If it is under license,
then they would be required to delete it. If it is their own product,
then they might just hide it using some sort of 'not public' flag on
the webpage / video file.
On 4/5/2026 4:07 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-05 16:11:23 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider
feels like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would >>>>> quite easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like
ComingSoon.net often have a news item saying that a show / movie is >>>>> leaving Netflix / Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium they
are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
Maybe, maybe not.
Disney is a "good" example where they have limted releases (whether that
was VHS, DVD, or streaming) and then you can't get it any more.
Which is a deliberate marketing strategy by Disney. They make a title >available for a limited time then remove it from sale. Until some time >later when the demand has increased again and they can get away with >overcharging for the title once again. The strategy wouldn't work if
they _didn't_ keep masters.
They
*should* of courser still have the original material locked away in
their vaults, but problems do happens that mean it can be lost. They
would then be relying on those that bought the limied releases to be
able to resurrect the show / movie ... just like the BBC is relying on
others for the missing episodes of various old shows.
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky >dirty old man.
On 4/5/2026 4:09 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-05 15:42:17 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-04 23:36:29 +0000, Lawrence D´Oliveiro said:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po1vfocxttcz004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Weird. It was about an obvious April Fools gag as you could get. >>>>>>> Those two newly recovered DMP episodes have already been digitised, >>>>>>> restored and given private screenings.
And lost? You fell for it.
Because of course the BBC could never lose episodes, could it. That
would be just crazy talk.
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear on and
disappear from various streaming services whenever the provider feels >>>> like it (one of the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like ComingSoon.net >>>> often have a news item saying that a show / movie is leaving
Netflix / Amazon Prime / Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the shows from >>> existence by destroying or erasing the medium they are stored on.
They do usually erase it from their servers. If it is under license,
then they would be required to delete it.
Which does NOT erase the license owner's masters.
----
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky >dirty old man.
In article <xn0po67vv2ngrxm001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear
on and disappear from various streaming services
whenever the provider feels like it (one of the many
reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite easy for a
show to be accidentally lost.
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium
they are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
On a server on Earth.
On 2026-04-05 16:11:23 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies
appear on and disappear from various streaming
services whenever the provider feels like it (one of
the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like
ComingSoon.net often have a news item saying that a
show / movie is leaving Netflix / Amazon Prime /
Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium
they are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
Maybe, maybe not.
Disney is a "good" example where they have limted releases
(whether that was VHS, DVD, or streaming) and then you can't
get it any more. They should of courser still have the
original material locked away in their vaults, but problems do
happens that mean it can be lost. They would then be relying
on those that bought the limied releases to be able to
resurrect the show / movie ... just like the BBC is relying on
others for the missing episodes of various old shows.
In article <10qusa4$1opf8$3@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2026 4:09 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-05 15:42:17 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase
the shows from existence by destroying or erasing the
medium they are stored on.
They do usually erase it from their servers. If it is under
license, then they would be required to delete it.
Which does NOT erase the license owner's masters.
1960s and 1970s come to mind.
In article <xn0po67vv2ngrxm001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
The streaming services don't erase the shows
from existence by destroying or erasing the
medium they are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
On a server on Earth.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po67vv2ngrxm001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear
on and disappear from various streaming services
whenever the provider feels like it (one of the many
reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite easy for a
show to be accidentally lost.
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium
they are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
On a server on Earth.
10/10 for stating the bleeding obvious!
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-05 16:11:23 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies
appear on and disappear from various streaming
services whenever the provider feels like it (one of
the many reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite
easy for a show to be accidentally lost. Websites like
ComingSoon.net often have a news item saying that a
show / movie is leaving Netflix / Amazon Prime /
Disney+ / etc. "soon".
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium
they are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
Maybe, maybe not.
Disney is a "good" example where they have limted releases
(whether that was VHS, DVD, or streaming) and then you can't
get it any more. They should of courser still have the
original material locked away in their vaults, but problems do
happens that mean it can be lost. They would then be relying
on those that bought the limied releases to be able to
resurrect the show / movie ... just like the BBC is relying on
others for the missing episodes of various old shows.
In fairness, the 1960's were a different time. Nowadays, most -
if not all - TV shows are in a digital format (somewhere), so
not as easily wiped (or junked) as rolls of actual film. I don't
think Disney will be relying on fans in the future to send them
their copies of "The Mandalorian" Season 1 Blu-ray because they
'lost' the original. Deleting a digital copy on a server isn't
the same as deleting the master copy.
Of course... you just never know!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <10qusa4$1opf8$3@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2026 4:09 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-04-05 15:42:17 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase
the shows from existence by destroying or erasing the
medium they are stored on.
They do usually erase it from their servers. If it is under
license, then they would be required to delete it.
Which does NOT erase the license owner's masters.
1960s and 1970s come to mind.
The old days were different because television shows were
recorded onto film or videotape, which could be re-recorded
over... which in the BBC's case they did to old television shows
that they thought wouldn't be required anymore. Now in the
digital days there will be master copies of each show, more than
one probably.. and what Netflix, Hulu, or Prime show on their
streaming services will only be digital copies supplied to them
by the owners of whatever show it is. The chances of the master
copies of a big franchise modern television show getting lost is
very small.
Which means for "Doctor Who" fans - the Jodie Whittaker episodes
are going nowhere! :)
The idiot interjected:
In article <xn0po67vv2ngrxm001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
The streaming services don't erase the shows
from existence by destroying or erasing the
medium they are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
On a server on Earth.
That’s what the Venusians want you to think.
----
solar penguin
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0po67vv2ngrxm001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/4/2026 6:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
Not just the BBC. These days some shows and movies appear
on and disappear from various streaming services
whenever the provider feels like it (one of the many
reason streaming "sux"), so it would quite easy for a
show to be accidentally lost.
Not the same thing. The streaming services don't erase the
shows from existence by destroying or erasing the medium
they are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
On a server on Earth.
10/10 for stating the bleeding obvious!
The idiot interjected:
In article <xn0po67vv2ngrxm001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
The streaming services don't erase the shows
from existence by destroying or erasing the
medium they are stored on.
Licences change, but the shows still usually exist somewhere.
On a server on Earth.
That’s what the Venusians want you to think.
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