• What Did You Watch? 2026-03-25 (Wednesday)

    From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv on Thu Mar 26 04:30:41 2026
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    I watched:

    Don Lemon is NOT coping well.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGfQLmL0RD0

    Socialist Tells Starving Cubans They're Fine? https://youtu.be/0WhaqFlyX4U?si=iMbpjee4IUPzGFHj

    “STAR TREK IS WHITEWASHED!” – Racist Actress Gaslights Fans Over
    Starfleet Academy Cancellation
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUqiHSV3wk4

    Starfleet Academy - It Really Is Dead, Jim! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euUkcIQgYw4

    PCB | Starfleet A-Comedy Gets CANCELED | Project Hail Mary | Star Wars
    Park | ST V: Final Frontier!

    Pop Culture Breakdown is BACK and tonight we discuss Starfleet
    A-Comedy getting CANCELED and what this means for the future of
    the Trek franchise, we offer a few spoiler-free reviews of Project
    Hail Mary, we muse over a former Disney VP's revelations of what went
    wrong with the Star Wars theme park, I rant about RTD opening his big
    mouth whining about Dr. Who fans on X, and the movie we love tonight
    is ST V: The Final Frontier...and yes, by crikey, I really DO love
    it! Join us as we break down the highs and lows of the week in pop
    culture!

    0:07:31 THE BREAKDOWN
    0:07:55 OpenAI License Agreement with Disney Characters for Use on the
    Sora App Vanishes As Sora Will Be Shutting Down
    0:11:32 Variety writes, ‘Doctor Who’ Boss Russell T Davies Says Online
    Hate Can Be ‘Very Dangerously Assumed’ as the ‘Fan Voice’: ‘It’s All
    Getting Soured’
    0:14:44 ? An Overlord DVD Mini-Rant™ ? on RTD's claims about the fandom 0:31:03 Fandom Pulse on X writes, Former Walt Disney World VP Dan
    Cockerell on who killed the Tatooine-Themed Star Wars land
    0:44:16 Star Trek: Starfleet Academy Season 3 Is Officially Canceled
    1:08:27 Overlord DVD and Nick on Star Trek: Picard Season 3 ??
    1:15:26 SUPER CHATS
    1:29:10 The new Barbie He-Man action figure
    1:30:10 Welcome, Andy Masterson!
    1:31:29 How would Overlord DVD improve Star Trek: Starfleet Academy
    without reboots?
    1:34:36 Marathon has flopped hard
    1:35:55 A Look at the new Barbie He-Man Action Figure
    1:44:15 REVIEWS
    1:44:20 Project Hail Mary (Amazon MGM Studios / Sony Pictures Releasing International)
    3:33:05 The last second

    https://www.youtube.com/live/5JbIUYe_AOw?si=KlbEnHmUV4QoZrKq
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Mar 26 12:45:48 2026
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    Verily, in article <UBI20260325@dont-email.me>, did weberm@polaris.net
    deliver unto us this message:

    I watched:
    0:11:32 Variety writes, ?Doctor Who? Boss Russell T Davies Says Online
    Hate Can Be ?Very Dangerously Assumed? as the ?Fan Voice?: ?It?s All
    Getting Soured?

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton
    of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    I watched several shorts from North 02. Two of the most interesting were
    this documentary on a bipedal ape which roamed Europe before any homo
    sapiens had ever gone there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTc_kQU-hzw&t=14s

    The other was a quick take on art which predates humanity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPqdPaGGL5g

    I'm still mostly playing Timberborn, though. I should play less; this is probably damaging my eyesight.
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Mar 26 17:57:19 2026
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    The article being discussed was

    'Doctor Who' Boss Russell T Davies Says Online Hate Can Be 'Very
    Dangerously Assumed' as the 'Fan Voice': 'It's All Getting Soured'
    by Ellise Shafer
    Variety
    Mar 25, 2026 12:40 pm PT https://variety.com/2026/tv/global/doctor-who-russell-t-davies-hate-dangerously-assumed-fan-voice-1236699116/

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton
    of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X,
    which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or something.

    . . .
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Mar 27 07:38:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Verily, in article <10q3s1v$31ttm$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com
    deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    The article being discussed was

    'Doctor Who' Boss Russell T Davies Says Online Hate Can Be 'Very
    Dangerously Assumed' as the 'Fan Voice': 'It's All Getting Soured'
    by Ellise Shafer
    Variety
    Mar 25, 2026 12:40 pm PT https://variety.com/2026/tv/global/doctor-who-russell-t-davies-hate-dangerously-assumed-fan-voice-1236699116/

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton
    of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X,
    which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    That's more understandable. X isn't a hate site in the usual sense, but
    it encourages hateful behavior. Everyone's ruder on X than in real life.


    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or something.

    I think some of them have gotten a little too into the idea that they're shapers of culture. They've come to see it as their job to teach us
    moral lessons and make us better.
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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@arthur@alum.calberkeley.org to rec.arts.tv on Fri Mar 27 08:14:48 2026
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    On 3/27/2026 4:38 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10q3s1v$31ttm$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    The article being discussed was

    'Doctor Who' Boss Russell T Davies Says Online Hate Can Be 'Very
    Dangerously Assumed' as the 'Fan Voice': 'It's All Getting Soured'
    by Ellise Shafer
    Variety
    Mar 25, 2026 12:40 pm PT
    https://variety.com/2026/tv/global/doctor-who-russell-t-davies-hate-dangerously-assumed-fan-voice-1236699116/

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton
    of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X,
    which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    That's more understandable. X isn't a hate site in the usual sense, but
    it encourages hateful behavior. Everyone's ruder on X than in real life.


    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or
    something.

    I think some of them have gotten a little too into the idea that they're shapers of culture. They've come to see it as their job to teach us
    moral lessons and make us better.





    Doctor Who was literally started as an educational program. Teaching
    the audience would seem to be in sync with why it was made in the first
    place. And any popular show that has been around since 1963 (or 2005)
    is definitely shaping culture.

    I think what often happens is children will watch a sci-fi show that is parable, sometimes obvious or sometimes intentionally coded to get past sensors, or sneak past certain adults, and the child only sees the entertainment value. While maybe learning a moral lesson or two. The
    best educational children's programming is always going to be
    entertaining. Kids aren't going to sit for boring. Then today as an
    adult watching the same exact show and suddenly notice the parables some
    are now complaining loudly about them. At least the parables they see
    today. The still insist the parables from the shows they grew up with
    were too subtle to notice.

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/8/89/Lokai.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20081217004121&path-prefix=en

    https://static0.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/bewitched-episode-written-by-kids.jpg?w=1200&h=628&fit=crop


    In 1977 Star Wars was a parable for the Vietnam War. With the U.S.
    being the evil empire that rebels had to defeat. But no one is going to
    slap that on a marketing poster. Or tell the studio exec that's the underlining theme of the movie. And who cares if the audience noticed
    the parable as long as they paid for the ticket and enjoyed the movie.

    I was almost tempted to say we now live in a more polarized world but
    that is hardly the case. The world has always been polarized and there
    have always been stories on TV and movies that took a side. I read
    comments that say today's shows are too overt while in the past it was
    more subtle. And that is nonsense. There are so many examples of overt
    in your face movies and episodes of shows that addressed hot button
    political issues of the day. But a lot of audiences back in the day were
    less sophisticated than now. And there just wasn't social media back
    then so every viewer who had a problem with it, couldn't share their
    problem with the world. It's not that they didn't complain. They
    complained a lot. We just didn't hear the complaints the way we can now.

    100s of "Cowboys and Indians" movies where the Native Americans are
    portrayed as savages that are OK to kill, shapes the culture. Movies
    that depict Native Americans as a civilized people who were mistreated,
    also shapes the culture. People who grew up watching the first type of
    movie are going to be the ones having problems with the second type of
    movie.

    Growing up and celebrating Columbus Day, shapes the culture. Growing up
    and celebrating Indigenous People's Day also shapes the culture.
    Cultures change. If someone is on one side or the other of that change
    it feels very very different.

    One last comment about subtle then vs. overt now. Just the other day I stumbled upon an old clip from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine where a
    Cardassian made a comment to Kira that she had targeted civilians. And
    Kira gave a long impassioned speech *justifying* killing civilians by basically saying there were no civilians. If you were there, you were a legitimate target. And the comments section were flipped that you could
    be that overt back then, but can't be that overt today. But back then
    it was considered subtle because it was one alien talking to another
    alien. I mean after all, foreign occupations of a distinct religious
    people, and the oppressed people using "terrorist" methods to fight back
    have no real world counterpart.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Fri Mar 27 12:39:14 2026
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    Verily, in article <10q66t9$3r624$1@dont-email.me>, did arthur@alum.calberkeley.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 3/27/2026 4:38 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10q3s1v$31ttm$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    The article being discussed was
    'Doctor Who' Boss Russell T Davies Says Online Hate Can Be 'Very
    Dangerously Assumed' as the 'Fan Voice': 'It's All Getting Soured'
    by Ellise Shafer
    Variety
    Mar 25, 2026 12:40 pm PT
    https://variety.com/2026/tv/global/doctor-who-russell-t-davies-hate-dangerously-assumed-fan-voice-1236699116/

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton >>> of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X,
    which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    That's more understandable. X isn't a hate site in the usual sense, but
    it encourages hateful behavior. Everyone's ruder on X than in real life.

    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or
    something.

    I think some of them have gotten a little too into the idea that they're shapers of culture. They've come to see it as their job to teach us
    moral lessons and make us better.


    Doctor Who was literally started as an educational program. Teaching
    the audience would seem to be in sync with why it was made in the first place. And any popular show that has been around since 1963 (or 2005)
    is definitely shaping culture.

    It was supposed to teach science in the future and history in the past.
    That fell apart pretty much right out of the gate.

    As far as social teaching goes, I do object to RTD's claim that Doctor
    Who was always kind of a gay show. That's not true.

    I think what often happens is children will watch a sci-fi show thatis parable, sometimes obvious or sometimes intentionally coded to get
    past sensors, or sneak past certain adults, and the child only seesthe entertainment value. While maybe learning a moral lesson or two. The
    best educational children's programming is always going to be
    entertaining. Kids aren't going to sit for boring. Then today as an
    adult watching the same exact show and suddenly notice the parables
    some are now complaining loudly about them. At least the parables they
    see today. The still insist the parables from the shows they grew up
    with ere too subtle to notice.

    My complaint is more about the shift in focus. Social messaging used to
    be built in to the plot organically, and now it's center stage. Silly
    lines about "a male-presenting Time Lord" being unable to comprehend
    aren't doing the show any favors.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Fri Mar 27 17:23:56 2026
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    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10q66t9$3r624$1@dont-email.me>, did arthur@alum.calberkeley.org deliver unto us this message:

    Doctor Who was literally started as an educational program.
    Teaching the audience would seem to be in sync with why it
    was made in the first place. And any popular show that has
    been around since 1963 (or 2005) is definitely shaping
    culture.

    It was supposed to teach science in the future and history in
    the past. That fell apart pretty much right out of the gate.

    It was kind of there in some of the early episodes, like "The
    Aztecs", unfortunately the Daleks caught the imagination of
    British children and the rest is history!

    As far as social teaching goes, I do object to RTD's claim
    that Doctor Who was always kind of a gay show. That's not
    true.

    Of course it's not true. That's just wishful thinking on RTD's
    part, trying to bring his agenda into everything. Sure, gay
    people watch Doctor Who, just as gay people watch EastEnders.
    Neither is a "gay show"... and neither show should be made 'for'
    gay people. If RTD thinks otherwise then he is out of touch with
    the real world.

    I think what often happens is children will watch a sci-fi
    show thatis parable, sometimes obvious or sometimes
    intentionally coded to get past sensors, or sneak past
    certain adults, and the child only seesthe entertainment
    value. While maybe learning a moral lesson or two. The best
    educational children's programming is always going to be
    entertaining. Kids aren't going to sit for boring. Then
    today as an adult watching the same exact show and suddenly
    notice the parables some are now complaining loudly about
    them. At least the parables they see today. The still insist
    the parables from the shows they grew up with ere too subtle
    to notice.

    My complaint is more about the shift in focus. Social
    messaging used to be built in to the plot organically, and now
    it's center stage. Silly lines about "a male-presenting Time
    Lord" being unable to comprehend aren't doing the show any
    favors.

    Exactly. The more RTD & Co shove stuff like that down the
    audience's throats, the more a lot of the TV watching public
    will switch off. Generally, that's not what people want from a
    sci-fi type show. They want escapism from the real world and all
    of its issues. Dealing with real world situations isn't fiction!
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Mar 27 18:02:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Mar 27, 2026 at 8:14:48 AM PDT, "Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    On 3/27/2026 4:38 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10q3s1v$31ttm$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com
    deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    The article being discussed was

    'Doctor Who' Boss Russell T Davies Says Online Hate Can Be 'Very
    Dangerously Assumed' as the 'Fan Voice': 'It's All Getting Soured'
    by Ellise Shafer
    Variety
    Mar 25, 2026 12:40 pm PT

    https://variety.com/2026/tv/global/doctor-who-russell-t-davies-hate-dangerously-assumed-fan-voice-1236699116/

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton >>>> of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X, >>> which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    That's more understandable. X isn't a hate site in the usual sense, but
    it encourages hateful behavior. Everyone's ruder on X than in real life.


    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or
    something.

    I think some of them have gotten a little too into the idea that they're
    shapers of culture. They've come to see it as their job to teach us
    moral lessons and make us better.

    Doctor Who was literally started as an educational program. Teaching
    the audience would seem to be in sync with why it was made in the first place. And any popular show that has been around since 1963 (or 2005)
    is definitely shaping culture.

    I think what often happens is children will watch a sci-fi show that is parable, sometimes obvious or sometimes intentionally coded to get past sensors, or sneak past certain adults, and the child only sees the entertainment value. While maybe learning a moral lesson or two. The
    best educational children's programming is always going to be
    entertaining. Kids aren't going to sit for boring. Then today as an
    adult watching the same exact show and suddenly notice the parables some
    are now complaining loudly about them. At least the parables they see today. The still insist the parables from the shows they grew up with
    were too subtle to notice.

    In 1977 Star Wars was a parable for the Vietnam War. With the U.S.
    being the evil empire that rebels had to defeat.

    STAR WARS was a modern retelling of Kirosawa's THE HIDDEN FORTRESS and THE SEVEN SAMURAI*. The entire concept of the Jedi and their lightsabers are a direct translation of Kirosawa's Samurai tale. Lucas has acknowledged this
    many times.

    *The Western classic THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN was also a remake of THE SEVEN SAMURAI.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Fri Mar 27 23:41:29 2026
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    In article <MPG.44307cbdf66916aa989bed@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10q66t9$3r624$1@dont-email.me>, did >arthur@alum.calberkeley.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 3/27/2026 4:38 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10q3s1v$31ttm$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com
    deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    The article being discussed was
    'Doctor Who' Boss Russell T Davies Says Online Hate Can Be 'Very
    Dangerously Assumed' as the 'Fan Voice': 'It's All Getting Soured'
    by Ellise Shafer
    Variety
    Mar 25, 2026 12:40 pm PT
    https://variety.com/2026/tv/global/doctor-who-russell-t-davies-hate-dangerously-assumed-fan-voice-1236699116/

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton >> >>> of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X, >> >> which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    That's more understandable. X isn't a hate site in the usual sense, but
    it encourages hateful behavior. Everyone's ruder on X than in real life. >> >
    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or
    something.

    I think some of them have gotten a little too into the idea that they're >> > shapers of culture. They've come to see it as their job to teach us
    moral lessons and make us better.


    Doctor Who was literally started as an educational program. Teaching
    the audience would seem to be in sync with why it was made in the first
    place. And any popular show that has been around since 1963 (or 2005)
    is definitely shaping culture.

    It was supposed to teach science in the future and history in the past.
    That fell apart pretty much right out of the gate.

    As far as social teaching goes, I do object to RTD's claim that Doctor
    Who was always kind of a gay show. That's not true.

    I think what often happens is children will watch a sci-fi show thatis
    parable, sometimes obvious or sometimes intentionally coded to get
    past sensors, or sneak past certain adults, and the child only seesthe
    entertainment value. While maybe learning a moral lesson or two. The
    best educational children's programming is always going to be
    entertaining. Kids aren't going to sit for boring. Then today as an
    adult watching the same exact show and suddenly notice the parables
    some are now complaining loudly about them. At least the parables they
    see today. The still insist the parables from the shows they grew up
    with ere too subtle to notice.

    My complaint is more about the shift in focus. Social messaging used to
    be built in to the plot organically, and now it's center stage. Silly
    lines about "a male-presenting Time Lord" being unable to comprehend
    aren't doing the show any favors.


    Just that propagada has changed.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Fri Mar 27 23:42:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    In article <MPG.44307cbdf66916aa989bed@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10q66t9$3r624$1@dont-email.me>, did >arthur@alum.calberkeley.org deliver unto us this message:

    On 3/27/2026 4:38 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10q3s1v$31ttm$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com
    deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    The article being discussed was
    'Doctor Who' Boss Russell T Davies Says Online Hate Can Be 'Very
    Dangerously Assumed' as the 'Fan Voice': 'It's All Getting Soured'
    by Ellise Shafer
    Variety
    Mar 25, 2026 12:40 pm PT
    https://variety.com/2026/tv/global/doctor-who-russell-t-davies-hate-dangerously-assumed-fan-voice-1236699116/

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton >> >>> of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X, >> >> which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    That's more understandable. X isn't a hate site in the usual sense, but
    it encourages hateful behavior. Everyone's ruder on X than in real life. >> >
    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or
    something.

    I think some of them have gotten a little too into the idea that they're >> > shapers of culture. They've come to see it as their job to teach us
    moral lessons and make us better.


    Doctor Who was literally started as an educational program. Teaching
    the audience would seem to be in sync with why it was made in the first
    place. And any popular show that has been around since 1963 (or 2005)
    is definitely shaping culture.

    It was supposed to teach science in the future and history in the past.
    That fell apart pretty much right out of the gate.

    As far as social teaching goes, I do object to RTD's claim that Doctor
    Who was always kind of a gay show. That's not true.

    I think what often happens is children will watch a sci-fi show thatis
    parable, sometimes obvious or sometimes intentionally coded to get
    past sensors, or sneak past certain adults, and the child only seesthe
    entertainment value. While maybe learning a moral lesson or two. The
    best educational children's programming is always going to be
    entertaining. Kids aren't going to sit for boring. Then today as an
    adult watching the same exact show and suddenly notice the parables
    some are now complaining loudly about them. At least the parables they
    see today. The still insist the parables from the shows they grew up
    with ere too subtle to notice.

    My complaint is more about the shift in focus. Social messaging used to
    be built in to the plot organically, and now it's center stage. Silly
    lines about "a male-presenting Time Lord" being unable to comprehend
    aren't doing the show any favors.


    Davies nust go!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Fri Mar 27 23:43:24 2026
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    In article <xn0pns6h630zdn700k@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <10q66t9$3r624$1@dont-email.me>, did
    arthur@alum.calberkeley.org deliver unto us this message:

    Doctor Who was literally started as an educational program.
    Teaching the audience would seem to be in sync with why it
    was made in the first place. And any popular show that has
    been around since 1963 (or 2005) is definitely shaping
    culture.

    It was supposed to teach science in the future and history in
    the past. That fell apart pretty much right out of the gate.

    It was kind of there in some of the early episodes, like "The
    Aztecs", unfortunately the Daleks caught the imagination of
    British children and the rest is history!

    As far as social teaching goes, I do object to RTD's claim
    that Doctor Who was always kind of a gay show. That's not
    true.

    Of course it's not true. That's just wishful thinking on RTD's
    part, trying to bring his agenda into everything. Sure, gay
    people watch Doctor Who, just as gay people watch EastEnders.
    Neither is a "gay show"... and neither show should be made 'for'
    gay people. If RTD thinks otherwise then he is out of touch with
    the real world.

    I think what often happens is children will watch a sci-fi
    show thatis parable, sometimes obvious or sometimes
    intentionally coded to get past sensors, or sneak past
    certain adults, and the child only seesthe entertainment
    value. While maybe learning a moral lesson or two. The best
    educational children's programming is always going to be
    entertaining. Kids aren't going to sit for boring. Then
    today as an adult watching the same exact show and suddenly
    notice the parables some are now complaining loudly about
    them. At least the parables they see today. The still insist
    the parables from the shows they grew up with ere too subtle
    to notice.

    My complaint is more about the shift in focus. Social
    messaging used to be built in to the plot organically, and now
    it's center stage. Silly lines about "a male-presenting Time
    Lord" being unable to comprehend aren't doing the show any
    favors.

    Exactly. The more RTD & Co shove stuff like that down the
    audience's throats, the more a lot of the TV watching public
    will switch off. Generally, that's not what people want from a
    sci-fi type show. They want escapism from the real world and all
    of its issues. Dealing with real world situations isn't fiction!

    About time RTD realise how unpopular he is!
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Mar 28 04:30:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
    Verily, in article <10q3s1v$31ttm$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com >deliver unto us this message:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    Pop Culture Breakdown is BACK and tonight we discuss Starfleet >>>>A-Comedy getting CANCELED and what this means for the future of
    the Trek franchise, we offer a few spoiler-free reviews of Project >>>>Hail Mary, we muse over a former Disney VP's revelations of what went >>>>wrong with the Star Wars theme park, I rant about RTD opening his big >>>>mouth whining about Dr. Who fans on X, and the movie we love tonight >>>>is ST V: The Final Frontier...and yes, by crikey, I really DO love
    it! Join us as we break down the highs and lows of the week in pop >>>>culture!

    0:07:31 THE BREAKDOWN
    0:07:55 OpenAI License Agreement with Disney Characters for Use on the >>>> Sora App Vanishes As Sora Will Be Shutting Down
    0:11:32 Variety writes, ‘Doctor Who’ Boss Russell T Davies Says Online >>>> Hate Can Be ‘Very Dangerously Assumed’ as the ‘Fan Voice’: ‘It’s >>>> All Getting Soured’
    https://variety.com/2026/tv/global/doctor-who-russell-t-davies-hate-dangerously-assumed-fan-voice-1236699116/

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton >>> of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X,
    which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    That's more understandable. X isn't a hate site in the usual sense, but
    it encourages hateful behavior. Everyone's ruder on X than in real life.

    X isn't a hate site at all, unless you're one of those morons who thinks
    that disgreement with The Agenda is "hate". If you want to see a _real_
    hate site, check out BlueSky or Threads or DemocratUnderground.com some
    time.

    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or
    something.

    I think some of them have gotten a little too into the idea that they're >shapers of culture. They've come to see it as their job to teach us
    moral lessons and make us better.

    Some?

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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Mar 28 04:30:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    In article <10q66t9$3r624$1@dont-email.me>, arthur@alum.calberkeley.org wrote: >On 3/27/2026 4:38 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    ahk@chinet.com did deliver unto us this message:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    'Doctor Who' Boss Russell T Davies Says Online Hate Can Be 'Very
    Dangerously Assumed' as the 'Fan Voice': 'It's All Getting Soured'

    Sheesh. They all do this, blaming "the Internet" as if there were a ton >>>> of non-Internet users happily watching. Do they think everyone
    expressing disappointment on the Internet is a bot?

    No.

    I read the article. He simply rejects criticism from fans posting on X,
    which he labeled a "hate site". He acknowledges that fans aren't
    obligated to like the show but demands that they criticize "in a
    respectful way".

    That's more understandable. X isn't a hate site in the usual sense, but
    it encourages hateful behavior. Everyone's ruder on X than in real life.


    It's so odd that he feels no obligation to write scripts that respect
    what the audience wants, or have recognizeable entertainment value, or
    something.

    I think some of them have gotten a little too into the idea that they're
    shapers of culture. They've come to see it as their job to teach us
    moral lessons and make us better.

    Doctor Who was literally started as an educational program. Teaching
    the audience would seem to be in sync with why it was made in the first >place. And any popular show that has been around since 1963 (or 2005)
    is definitely shaping culture.

    I think what often happens is children will watch a sci-fi show that is >parable, sometimes obvious or sometimes intentionally coded to get past >sensors, or sneak past certain adults, and the child only sees the >entertainment value. While maybe learning a moral lesson or two. The
    best educational children's programming is always going to be
    entertaining. Kids aren't going to sit for boring. Then today as an
    adult watching the same exact show and suddenly notice the parables some
    are now complaining loudly about them. At least the parables they see >today. The still insist the parables from the shows they grew up with
    were too subtle to notice.

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/8/89/Lokai.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20081217004121&path-prefix=en

    https://static0.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/bewitched-episode-written-by-kids.jpg?w=1200&h=628&fit=crop


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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Mar 28 06:05:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Verily, in article <10q80qt$d16a$12@dont-email.me>, did
    weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
    X isn't a hate site at all, unless you're one of those morons who thinks
    that disgreement with The Agenda is "hate". If you want to see a _real_
    hate site, check out BlueSky or Threads or DemocratUnderground.com some
    time.


    I did check out BlueSky, and it was pretty bad. Of course, Gab also
    turned toxic quickly. I think that's just what happens to echo chambers.
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