I never considered it but that is part of the argument before the
Supreme Court it in this case. Not sure where I fall on the issue but
I always thought anyone born in the USA would be birthright citizens
and that it would include those born on tribal lands, but apparently
not.
That's not to say they aren't citizens because they've been granted it
via law, just not by the 14th amendment, or so the argument goes.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2039360113350189428
GORSUCH: Do you think Native Americans are birthright citizens under
your test?
SAUER: Ah, I think ... so. I have to think that through.
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
I never considered it but that is part of the argument before the
Supreme Court it in this case. Not sure where I fall on the issue but
I always thought anyone born in the USA would be birthright citizens
and that it would include those born on tribal lands, but apparently
not.
That's not to say they aren't citizens because they've been granted it
via law, just not by the 14th amendment, or so the argument goes.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2039360113350189428
GORSUCH: Do you think Native Americans are birthright citizens under
your test?
SAUER: Ah, I think ... so. I have to think that through.
I don't know what test he offered, but it's more than a century since
the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 became law. Before that, "Indians not taxed" weren't United States citizens. Technically, that's not by the
14th Amendment but an act of Congress.
On Apr 1, 2026 at 1:53:05 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
I never considered it but that is part of the argument before the
Supreme Court it in this case. Not sure where I fall on the issue but
I always thought anyone born in the USA would be birthright citizens
and that it would include those born on tribal lands, but apparently
not.
That's not to say they aren't citizens because they've been granted it
via law, just not by the 14th amendment, or so the argument goes.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2039360113350189428
GORSUCH: Do you think Native Americans are birthright citizens under
your test?
SAUER: Ah, I think ... so. I have to think that through.
I don't know what test he offered, but it's more than a century since
the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 became law. Before that, "Indians not
taxed" weren't United States citizens. Technically, that's not by the
14th Amendment but an act of Congress.
The Left's argument for birthright citizenship is obviously insane but it's >even more insane when you consider that they actually don't believe in your or >my "birthright". They constantly claim we are on stolen land and have no right >to be here, but the anchor baby whose parents got here from Guatemala 10 >seconds ago has a "birthright" and is tied to this nation by blood for all >time. That's actually their position. It's so psychotic that you can't even >argue against it. It's like trying to have a political debate with a rutabaga. >These are not serious people.
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 03:58:01 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Apr 1, 2026 at 1:53:05 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
I never considered it but that is part of the argument before the
Supreme Court it in this case. Not sure where I fall on the issue but >>>> I always thought anyone born in the USA would be birthright citizens
and that it would include those born on tribal lands, but apparently
not.
That's not to say they aren't citizens because they've been granted it >>>> via law, just not by the 14th amendment, or so the argument goes.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2039360113350189428
GORSUCH: Do you think Native Americans are birthright citizens under
your test?
SAUER: Ah, I think ... so. I have to think that through.
I don't know what test he offered, but it's more than a century since
the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 became law. Before that, "Indians not >>> taxed" weren't United States citizens. Technically, that's not by the
14th Amendment but an act of Congress.
The Left's argument for birthright citizenship is obviously insane but it's >> even more insane when you consider that they actually don't believe in your >> or
my "birthright". They constantly claim we are on stolen land and have no
right
to be here, but the anchor baby whose parents got here from Guatemala 10
seconds ago has a "birthright" and is tied to this nation by blood for all >> time. That's actually their position. It's so psychotic that you can't even >> argue against it. It's like trying to have a political debate with a
rutabaga.
These are not serious people.
So who does belong here? I know that the tribal myths talk about them
being formed out of the Earth (at least for some tribes) but in
reality we know that they came from elsewhere. So if they came from
elsewhere does that mean the land belongs to no one. Should it then be
left empty and we all return to Africa?
As for your discussion I expect that is from two different
conversations because it seems clear that the people arguing about who
truly belongs here would say only native Americans, and they aren't considering the issue of birthright citizens as it seems they would
argue the USA has no right to exist and therefore there can be no
argument for birthright citizenship.
I never considered it but that is part of the argument before the
Supreme Court it in this case. Not sure where I fall on the issue but
I always thought anyone born in the USA would be birthright citizens
and that it would include those born on tribal lands, but apparently
not.
That's not to say they aren't citizens because they've been granted it
via law, just not by the 14th amendment, or so the argument goes.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2039360113350189428
GORSUCH: Do you think Native Americans are birthright citizens under
your test?
SAUER: Ah, I think ... so. I have to think that through.
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