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HOA Board Jailed for Theft of Dues

Nice headline, but is it true?

Hammocks HOA board members behind bars for allegedly stealing millions from association

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6bL7TbmfnQ

It should be reminded to all about all the complaints
about systematic cheating by Home Owner Associations,
local and state governments have been requiring HOAs
to be set up by builders of developments as a condition
for the permit to build. So errant states like Hawaii
and Florida, and rogue cities like Houston Texas,
require HOAs as a matter of policy, by force, and not
by a free choice of the marketplace.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that President
Bill Clinton is at fault for spreading HOAs, what
with his sweet smooth words of Public Private
Partnerships and Communitarianism; HOA's practically
scream "it takes a village". Surely HOAs are more
Corporate, more Socialist, than dreaded individualism,
which sounds like a right-wing social construct.
The Partisan Rebuttal to this could be "So what if
Democrats are gung-ho about HMOs, they only do bad
things to appease Republicans". Beside, everyone
knows that our First Black President would be a
Republican, at least in Spirit.








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On Apr 2, 2026 at 9:27:44 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

HOA Board Jailed for Theft of Dues

Nice headline, but is it true?

Hammocks HOA board members behind bars for allegedly stealing millions from association

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6bL7TbmfnQ

It should be reminded to all about all the complaints
about systematic cheating by Home Owner Associations,
local and state governments have been requiring HOAs
to be set up by builders of developments as a condition
for the permit to build. So errant states like Hawaii
and Florida, and rogue cities like Houston Texas,
require HOAs as a matter of policy, by force, and not
by a free choice of the marketplace.

The residents can always just dissolve the HOA themselves if they don't want it.


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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Apr 2, 2026 at 9:27:44 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

HOA Board Jailed for Theft of Dues

Nice headline, but is it true?

Hammocks HOA board members behind bars for allegedly stealing millions from >> association

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6bL7TbmfnQ

It should be reminded to all about all the complaints
about systematic cheating by Home Owner Associations,
local and state governments have been requiring HOAs
to be set up by builders of developments as a condition
for the permit to build. So errant states like Hawaii
and Florida, and rogue cities like Houston Texas,
require HOAs as a matter of policy, by force, and not
by a free choice of the marketplace.

The residents can always just dissolve the HOA themselves if they don't want >it.

The purpose of the HOA is to maintain the roads, which aren't dedicated,
and some of the utilities. No idea how the common elements can be
maintained without an HOA.
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On 2026-04-03 3:44 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Apr 2, 2026 at 9:27:44 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

HOA Board Jailed for Theft of Dues

Nice headline, but is it true?

Hammocks HOA board members behind bars for allegedly stealing millions from >>> association

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6bL7TbmfnQ

It should be reminded to all about all the complaints
about systematic cheating by Home Owner Associations,
local and state governments have been requiring HOAs
to be set up by builders of developments as a condition
for the permit to build. So errant states like Hawaii
and Florida, and rogue cities like Houston Texas,
require HOAs as a matter of policy, by force, and not
by a free choice of the marketplace.

The residents can always just dissolve the HOA themselves if they don't want >> it.

The purpose of the HOA is to maintain the roads, which aren't dedicated,
and some of the utilities. No idea how the common elements can be
maintained without an HOA.

What do you mean when you say the roads are not "dedicated"? Is that a
synonym for "publicly owned"? In my area - and I dare say most of Canada
- the roads *are* publicly owned meaning that the municipality is
responsible for maintaining them in the sense of fixing potholes or
shovelling snow.
--
Rhino
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On 4/3/26 10:36 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Apr 2, 2026 at 9:27:44 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

HOA Board Jailed for Theft of Dues

Nice headline, but is it true?

Hammocks HOA board members behind bars for allegedly stealing millions from >> association

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6bL7TbmfnQ

It should be reminded to all about all the complaints
about systematic cheating by Home Owner Associations,
local and state governments have been requiring HOAs
to be set up by builders of developments as a condition
for the permit to build. So errant states like Hawaii
and Florida, and rogue cities like Houston Texas,
require HOAs as a matter of policy, by force, and not
by a free choice of the marketplace.

The residents can always just dissolve the HOA themselves if they don't want it.

That seems to not be possible if an HOA system is
required by the state. HOAs are the title owners
of the property, in effect, if not in name, and I
suppose homeowners can only dissolve it unanimously,
if even allowed to.










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On 4/3/26 3:27 PM, Rhino wrote:

On 2026-04-03 3:44 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

BTR1701  <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Apr 2, 2026 at 9:27:44 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

HOA Board Jailed for Theft of Dues

Nice headline, but is it true?

Hammocks HOA board members behind bars for allegedly stealing millions from
association

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6bL7TbmfnQ

It should be reminded to all about all the complaints
about systematic cheating by Home Owner Associations,
local and state governments have been requiring HOAs
to be set up by builders of developments as a condition
for the permit to build.  So errant states like Hawaii
and Florida, and rogue cities like Houston Texas,
require HOAs as a matter of policy, by force, and not
by a free choice of the marketplace.

The residents can always just dissolve the HOA themselves if they don't want
it.

The purpose of the HOA is to maintain the roads, which aren't dedicated,
and some of the utilities. No idea how the common elements can be
maintained without an HOA.

What do you mean when you say the roads are not "dedicated"? Is that a synonym for "publicly owned"? In my area - and I dare say most of Canada - the roads *are* publicly owned meaning that the municipality is responsible for maintaining them in the sense of fixing potholes or shovelling snow.

It can be but it varies, sometimes the city owns the
streets, but usually it is the property of the HOA,
and the state won't allow dissolution unless it agrees
to maintain the private roads, which is obviously not
likely when that same government is requiring that
all new developments must be governed by HOAs.

The key here in this question is the force of local and
state governments to require HOAs, and not just the
result of random whims of the developers and homeowners.
This helps answer the rhetorical question "Why would
anyone choose to live in an HOA?"




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On Apr 3, 2026 at 4:58:05 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

On 4/3/26 3:27 PM, Rhino wrote:

On 2026-04-03 3:44 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

BTR1701  <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Apr 2, 2026 at 9:27:44 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> >>>> wrote:

HOA Board Jailed for Theft of Dues

Nice headline, but is it true?

Hammocks HOA board members behind bars for allegedly stealing millions from
association

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6bL7TbmfnQ

It should be reminded to all about all the complaints
about systematic cheating by Home Owner Associations,
local and state governments have been requiring HOAs
to be set up by builders of developments as a condition
for the permit to build.  So errant states like Hawaii
and Florida, and rogue cities like Houston Texas,
require HOAs as a matter of policy, by force, and not
by a free choice of the marketplace.

The residents can always just dissolve the HOA themselves if they don't want
it.

The purpose of the HOA is to maintain the roads, which aren't dedicated, >>> and some of the utilities. No idea how the common elements can be
maintained without an HOA.

What do you mean when you say the roads are not "dedicated"? Is that a
synonym for "publicly owned"? In my area - and I dare say most of Canada - >> the roads *are* publicly owned meaning that the municipality is responsible >> for maintaining them in the sense of fixing potholes or shovelling snow.

It can be but it varies, sometimes the city owns the
streets, but usually it is the property of the HOA,
and the state won't allow dissolution unless it agrees
to maintain the private roads, which is obviously not
likely when that same government is requiring that
all new developments must be governed by HOAs.

If they won't allow dissolution of the HOA, the HOA members could just vote to release all the deeds of title of the various homes from the HOA's deed restrictions.

The HOA would still technically exist, but the individual homeowners would not be obligated to follow its decrees.


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Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2026-04-03 3:44 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

. . .

The residents can always just dissolve the HOA themselves if they don't want >>>it.

The purpose of the HOA is to maintain the roads, which aren't dedicated, >>and some of the utilities. No idea how the common elements can be >>maintained without an HOA.

What do you mean when you say the roads are not "dedicated"? Is that a >synonym for "publicly owned"? In my area - and I dare say most of Canada
- the roads *are* publicly owned meaning that the municipality is >responsible for maintaining them in the sense of fixing potholes or >shovelling snow.

A master developer buys rural land on the outskirts of suburbia. He
creates subdivisions, which literally means establishing lot lines and
rights of way for roads and utilities on a plat. Portions are sold to
other developers who will build homes, utilities, and roads.

If the roads are to be maintained by government, then the rights of way
need to be 50' or 60' wide to accomodate on-street parking, as every
fire department demands paved width of 36' to be able to drive between
parked cars.

Once all permits are complied with and there is final inspection
approval, the developer dedicates the rights of way to the government
that will maintain it.

If there's an HOA, then the rights of way can be narrower and more
housing may be built. It can then be more profitable.
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