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  • Re: [OT] Church of England spending 100 million pounds on slavery reparations

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Sun Jul 5 22:53:17 2026
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    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 14:40:38 -0000 (UTC), Py <noemailplease@aol.org>
    wrote:

    Some slaveholders believed that African Americans were biologically
    inferior to their masters. During the 1800s, this arguement was taken quite >seriously, even in scientific circles.

    Apparently it was not known until the late 19th century (e.g. after
    the US Civil War) that all of mankind was descended from common
    ancestors so some believed black and white folks were as diverse as
    Homo Sapiens and Home Neanderthalis - and based their "theories"
    justifying slavery on that.

    (And there IS evidence that Sapiens and Neanderthalis WERE
    interfertile though obviously there's no way of proving or disproving
    that now)

    Bear in mind that the British West Africa Squadron was also before
    1861-65 and frankly I'm amazed more Brits don't cite the Royal Navy
    WAS - which didn't destroy slavery but DID destroy the slave trade at
    sea in both Atlantic and Indian oceans - whenever "reparation" claims
    are made.

    If you're unfamiliar with the WAS Google it and read the Wiki pages on
    it.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Sun Jul 5 22:59:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 14:40:38 -0000 (UTC), Py <noemailplease@aol.org>
    wrote:

    Defenders of slavery argued that the sudden end to the slave economy would >have had a profound and killing economic impact in the South where reliance >on slave labor was the foundation of their economy. The cotton economy
    would collapse. The tobacco crop would dry in the fields. Rice would cease >being profitable.

    One thing complicating matters was the existance of indentured
    servitude which ran parallel to slavery in North America long before
    the American Revolution. My "direct male line" ancestors came from
    Hanover to NY state (note: both were British possessions at that time
    so Britain didn't consider them immigrants any more than when my
    mother's family emigrated from Northern Ireland to Canada just before
    WW1) in the very early 18th century and were required to pay off their
    sea transport over 5 years before fully free.

    While I'm sure a few indentured 'owners' boinked the staff it seems
    not to have been as common as white/black sexual contact was and
    presumably that was because few whites were indentured beyond 10 years
    whereas black slaves were for life.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jul 6 06:06:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Verily, in article <qbgm4lpnds5rcbek9bul5qct3aojkiukb0@4ax.com>, did lcraver@home.ca deliver unto us this message:
    (And there IS evidence that Sapiens and Neanderthalis WERE
    interfertile though obviously there's no way of proving or disproving
    that now)

    Oh, that's thoroughly proven. Their DNA is mingled with ours, and
    there's only one way that could have happened. We also carry some
    Denisovan DNA.

    We all have a trace of both, but it tends to vary by race. White people
    have more neanderthal DNA, up to 6% in some cases, while Asian people
    have more Denisovan DNA. Japanese people specifically carry something
    called "the ancient lineage" -- probably another kind of human we
    haven't found in bones, but some speculate that it's homo erectus.
    --
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