How does someone get that way? Completely indifferent to anyone but
herself, not a shred of insight that she'd done something horrible and
not a bit of guilt? Does booze alone have that effect? I have to ask
because I don't drink and never have so I just have no experience with
being drunk.
Verily, in article <112if60$2l2or$1@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
How does someone get that way? Completely indifferent to anyone but
herself, not a shred of insight that she'd done something horrible and
not a bit of guilt? Does booze alone have that effect? I have to ask
because I don't drink and never have so I just have no experience with
being drunk.
No, booze alone does not have that effect. It doesn't make people
indifferent to others. Plenty of people have injured someone while drunk
and been distraught.
It does affect memory. If she wasn't forming memories, then while at the hospital she didn't know why she was there or what happened. She
eventually blows 0.264, which is hugely drunk. She might be having
memory problems, not understanding what's happening because there's no continuity.
She giggles nervously a few times during the sobriety test, but she's
not laughing at the victims. The voiceover seems to be trying to make
her sound worse.
She's awfully open. She called the police herself, and she volunteers
that she's carrying marijuana (apparently still illegal there).
Ever notice how *everyone* who hits someone with a car always insists
that the victim "came out of nowhere"?
On 2026-07-07 8:02 a.m., The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <112if60$2l2or$1@dont-email.me>, did
no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
How does someone get that way? Completely indifferent to anyone but
herself, not a shred of insight that she'd done something horrible and
not a bit of guilt? Does booze alone have that effect? I have to ask
because I don't drink and never have so I just have no experience with
being drunk.
No, booze alone does not have that effect. It doesn't make people
indifferent to others. Plenty of people have injured someone while drunk
and been distraught.
It does affect memory. If she wasn't forming memories, then while at the
hospital she didn't know why she was there or what happened. She
eventually blows 0.264, which is hugely drunk. She might be having
memory problems, not understanding what's happening because there's no
continuity.
She giggles nervously a few times during the sobriety test, but she's
not laughing at the victims. The voiceover seems to be trying to make
her sound worse.
She's awfully open. She called the police herself, and she volunteers
that she's carrying marijuana (apparently still illegal there).
Ever notice how *everyone* who hits someone with a car always insists
that the victim "came out of nowhere"?
That seems natural enough to me. I would assume that inattention was the >major cause of the collision: the driver was looking at something OTHER
than the road ahead so was stunned by another car or pedestrian being
there unexpectedly.
On Tue, 7 Jul 2026 10:37:39 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-07-07 8:02 a.m., The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <112if60$2l2or$1@dont-email.me>, did
no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
How does someone get that way? Completely indifferent to anyone but
herself, not a shred of insight that she'd done something horrible and >>>> not a bit of guilt? Does booze alone have that effect? I have to ask
because I don't drink and never have so I just have no experience with >>>> being drunk.
No, booze alone does not have that effect. It doesn't make people
indifferent to others. Plenty of people have injured someone while drunk >>> and been distraught.
It does affect memory. If she wasn't forming memories, then while at the >>> hospital she didn't know why she was there or what happened. She
eventually blows 0.264, which is hugely drunk. She might be having
memory problems, not understanding what's happening because there's no
continuity.
She giggles nervously a few times during the sobriety test, but she's
not laughing at the victims. The voiceover seems to be trying to make
her sound worse.
She's awfully open. She called the police herself, and she volunteers
that she's carrying marijuana (apparently still illegal there).
Ever notice how *everyone* who hits someone with a car always insists
that the victim "came out of nowhere"?
That seems natural enough to me. I would assume that inattention was the
major cause of the collision: the driver was looking at something OTHER
than the road ahead so was stunned by another car or pedestrian being
there unexpectedly.
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just
look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones.
Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take
that same behavior into their cars.
Ever notice how *everyone* who hits someone with a car always insists
that the victim "came out of nowhere"?
That seems natural enough to me. I would assume that inattention was the major cause of the collision: the driver was looking at something OTHER
than the road ahead so was stunned by another car or pedestrian being
there unexpectedly.
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just
look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones.
Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take
that same behavior into their cars.
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just
look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones.
Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take
that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect
system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped
into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk.
There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make
it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the
vehicle. I find that appalling.
Verily, in article <112j2vk$2tqsv$1@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
Ever notice how *everyone* who hits someone with a car always insists
that the victim "came out of nowhere"?
That seems natural enough to me. I would assume that inattention was the
major cause of the collision: the driver was looking at something OTHER
than the road ahead so was stunned by another car or pedestrian being
there unexpectedly.
Exactly. To me, "He came out of nowhere" is not an excuse, because it translates to "I wasn't watching the road."
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did
nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just
look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones.
Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take
that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect
system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped
into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk.
There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make
it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the
vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is
not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically
state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready
to take over instantly. The number of YouTube videos and similar that
show these useless cars doing something stupid when driving themselves
is astounding. It also doesn't help that most of these silly systems do
not actually work properly either. Yet another reason why "self-driving" cars should NOT be allowed on public roads.
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did
nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just
look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones.
Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take
that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect
system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped
into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk.
There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make
it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the
vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is
not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically
state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready
to take over instantly.
On 7/7/2026 5:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did
nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just >>>> look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones. >>>> Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take >>>> that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect
system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped >>> into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk.
There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make
it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the
vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat
promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is
not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically
state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready
to take over instantly. The number of YouTube videos and similar that
show these useless cars doing something stupid when driving themselves
is astounding. It also doesn't help that most of these silly systems do
not actually work properly either. Yet another reason why "self-driving" >> cars should NOT be allowed on public roads.
Here's Google's AI (quoting the NYTimes):
"Self-driving cars are statistically safer than human drivers. Real-world data shows fully autonomous fleets, like Waymo, have up to
92% fewer pedestrian injury crashes, 85% fewer injury-involving crashes,
and a significantly lower rate of serious-injury collisions compared to humans driving on the same roads."
On 7/7/2026 5:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did
nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just >>>> look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones.
Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take
that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect
system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped
into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk.
There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make
it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the
vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat
promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is
not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically
state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready
to take over instantly. The number of YouTube videos and similar that
show these useless cars doing something stupid when driving themselves
is astounding. It also doesn't help that most of these silly systems do
not actually work properly either. Yet another reason why
"self-driving" cars should NOT be allowed on public roads.
Here's Google's AI (quoting the NYTimes):
"Self-driving cars are statistically safer than human drivers. Real-world data shows fully autonomous fleets, like Waymo, have up to
92% fewer pedestrian injury crashes, 85% fewer injury-involving
crashes, and a significantly lower rate of serious-injury collisions compared to humans driving on the same roads."
On 2026-07-08 02:33:18 +0000, moviePig said:
On 7/7/2026 5:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did
nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell,
just look at the people walking around the streets glued to their
phones. Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise
they take that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect
system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone
stepped into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the
crosswalk. There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will
make it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting
the vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat
promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it
is not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws)
specifically state that the driver must still be paying full
attention and be ready to take over instantly. The number of YouTube
videos and similar that show these useless cars doing something
stupid when driving themselves is astounding. It also doesn't help
that most of these silly systems do not actually work properly
either. Yet another reason why "self-driving" cars should NOT be
allowed on public roads.
Here's Google's AI (quoting the NYTimes):
   "Self-driving cars are statistically safer than human drivers.
Real-world data shows fully autonomous fleets, like Waymo, have up to
92% fewer pedestrian injury crashes, 85% fewer injury-involving
crashes, and a significantly lower rate of serious-injury collisions
compared to humans driving on the same roads."
Skewed statistics. Self-driving cars have fewer accidents because:
a. There are far fewer of them on the roads than normal vehicles.
b. Many of the accidents are not reported and/or hushed up by the company
 the operates the self-driving cars.
 (Tesla has paid off complaints simply to avoid going to court.)
On Jul 7, 2026 at 7:33:18 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2026 5:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did >>>> nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just >>>>> look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones. >>>>> Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take >>>>> that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect
system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped >>>> into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk. >>>> There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make >>>> it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the
vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat
promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is >>> not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically
state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready >>> to take over instantly. The number of YouTube videos and similar that
show these useless cars doing something stupid when driving themselves >>> is astounding. It also doesn't help that most of these silly systems do >>> not actually work properly either. Yet another reason why "self-driving" >>> cars should NOT be allowed on public roads.
Here's Google's AI (quoting the NYTimes):
"Self-driving cars are statistically safer than human drivers.
Real-world data shows fully autonomous fleets, like Waymo, have up to
92% fewer pedestrian injury crashes, 85% fewer injury-involving crashes,
and a significantly lower rate of serious-injury collisions compared to
humans driving on the same roads."
Do they keep stats on how many people are robbed and beaten in them in our social utopias known as blue cities, because the thugs have learned they can immobilize a Waymo by having one guy step in front of it while the others rob the occupants, who are suddenly trapped with nowhere to go?
On 7/7/2026 10:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 7, 2026 at 7:33:18 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2026 5:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did >>>>> nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just >>>>>> look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones. >>>>>> Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take >>>>>> that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect >>>>> system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped >>>>> into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk. >>>>> There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make >>>>> it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the >>>>> vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat >>>> promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is >>>> not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically >>>> state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready >>>> to take over instantly. The number of YouTube videos and similar that >>>> show these useless cars doing something stupid when driving themselves >>>> is astounding. It also doesn't help that most of these silly systems do >>>> not actually work properly either. Yet another reason why "self-driving"
cars should NOT be allowed on public roads.
Here's Google's AI (quoting the NYTimes):
"Self-driving cars are statistically safer than human drivers.
Real-world data shows fully autonomous fleets, like Waymo, have up to
92% fewer pedestrian injury crashes, 85% fewer injury-involving crashes, >>> and a significantly lower rate of serious-injury collisions compared to >>> humans driving on the same roads."
Do they keep stats on how many people are robbed and beaten in them in our >> social utopias known as blue cities, because the thugs have learned they can
immobilize a Waymo by having one guy step in front of it while the others >> rob
the occupants, who are suddenly trapped with nowhere to go?
The actual stats on that are likely irrelevant to headline-writers.
On Jul 8, 2026 at 7:48:31 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2026 10:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 7, 2026 at 7:33:18 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/7/2026 5:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did >>>>>> nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just
look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones.
Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take
that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect >>>>>> system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped
into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk. >>>>>> There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make
it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the >>>>>> vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat >>>>> promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is
not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically >>>>> state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready
to take over instantly. The number of YouTube videos and similar that >>>>> show these useless cars doing something stupid when driving themselves
is astounding. It also doesn't help that most of these silly systems do
not actually work properly either. Yet another reason why "self-driving"
cars should NOT be allowed on public roads.
Here's Google's AI (quoting the NYTimes):
"Self-driving cars are statistically safer than human drivers.
Real-world data shows fully autonomous fleets, like Waymo, have up to >>>> 92% fewer pedestrian injury crashes, 85% fewer injury-involving crashes, >>>> and a significantly lower rate of serious-injury collisions compared to >>>> humans driving on the same roads."
Do they keep stats on how many people are robbed and beaten in them in our
social utopias known as blue cities, because the thugs have learned they can
immobilize a Waymo by having one guy step in front of it while the others >>> rob
the occupants, who are suddenly trapped with nowhere to go?
The actual stats on that are likely irrelevant to headline-writers.
Or media orgs with an agenda to maintain, especially considering most of the miscreants are diverse.
On 7/8/2026 1:53 AM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-08 02:33:18 +0000, moviePig said:
On 7/7/2026 5:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did >>>>> nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just >>>>>> look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones. >>>>>> Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take >>>>>> that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect >>>>> system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped >>>>> into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk. >>>>> There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make >>>>> it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the >>>>> vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat
promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is >>>> not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically >>>> state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready >>>> to take over instantly. The number of YouTube videos and similar that >>>> show these useless cars doing something stupid when driving themselves >>>> is astounding. It also doesn't help that most of these silly systems do >>>> not actually work properly either. Yet another reason why
"self-driving" cars should NOT be allowed on public roads.
Here's Google's AI (quoting the NYTimes):
"Self-driving cars are statistically safer than human drivers.
Real-world data shows fully autonomous fleets, like Waymo, have up to
92% fewer pedestrian injury crashes, 85% fewer injury-involving
crashes, and a significantly lower rate of serious-injury collisions
compared to humans driving on the same roads."
Skewed statistics. Self-driving cars have fewer accidents because:
a. There are far fewer of them on the roads than normal vehicles.
b. Many of the accidents are not reported and/or hushed up by the company
the operates the self-driving cars.
(Tesla has paid off complaints simply to avoid going to court.)
I'd assume (though you never know) that #1 is adjusted for.
And, while #2 is undoubtedly in play, I'd be surprised if it accounts
for the large advantage. I'd sooner suspect outright lying...
On 7/7/2026 10:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 7, 2026 at 7:33:18 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2026 5:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-07-07 17:49:34 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <234q4l5s8covinc3s9787qeslap4qrjoga@4ax.com>, did >>>>> nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com deliver unto us this message:
That seems to be a normal thing now thanks to cell phones. Hell, just >>>>>> look at the people walking around the streets glued to their phones. >>>>>> Not a clue as to what is going on around them. No surprise they take >>>>>> that same behavior into their cars.
Just yesterday, I saw a commercial pushing a car with an autodetect
system. The idiot driver was looking at her phone when someone stepped >>>>> into a crosswalk, and the car's system... didn't blow the crosswalk. >>>>> There's a closeup of the woman who didn't quite die.
In essence, this commercial is telling me that their system will make >>>>> it safe for me to screw around when I'm supposed to be piloting the
vehicle. I find that appalling.
Which is exactly what many Tesla drivers do, thanks to Elon Muskrat
promoting his idiotic nonsense as "full self-driving" even though it is >>>> not and the car's instructions (and most country's laws) specifically
state that the driver must still be paying full attention and be ready >>>> to take over instantly. The number of YouTube videos and similar that
show these useless cars doing something stupid when driving themselves >>>> is astounding. It also doesn't help that most of these silly systems do >>>> not actually work properly either. Yet another reason why "self-driving" >>>> cars should NOT be allowed on public roads.
Here's Google's AI (quoting the NYTimes):
"Self-driving cars are statistically safer than human drivers.
Real-world data shows fully autonomous fleets, like Waymo, have up to
92% fewer pedestrian injury crashes, 85% fewer injury-involving crashes, >>> and a significantly lower rate of serious-injury collisions compared to
humans driving on the same roads."
Do they keep stats on how many people are robbed and beaten in them in our >> social utopias known as blue cities, because the thugs have learned they can >> immobilize a Waymo by having one guy step in front of it while the others rob
the occupants, who are suddenly trapped with nowhere to go?
The actual stats on that are likely irrelevant to headline-writers.
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