• Re: [OT] Israeli-Canadian forbidden to name Israel as her place of birth

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Fri Nov 21 20:42:57 2025
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    On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 20:19:13 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    An Israel-born Jewish woman who recently became a Canadian citizen found >herself blocked from listing her place as birth as Israel when she
    applied for her Canadian passport.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alrw2QUwNts [5 minutes]

    This is a truly bizarre decision by the Passport Office. Even if Canada
    now recognizes Palestine as a legitimate state - which is pretty >preposterous right off the bat - by what "logic" do they deny that her
    place of birth was in Israel AT THE TIME SHE WAS BORN?

    I agree with you entirely on this.

    Borders change fairly regularly and have done so throughout history.
    Even if the Russian Empire eventually became the Soviet Union and then >simply Russia, I doubt even Lenin would have objected to his Soviet
    passport saying that he was born in the Russian Empire because that's
    what his country was called when he was born.

    It seems that Canada has not only recognized Palestine as a state, they
    have made it retroactive to some time in the past, perhaps to the point >before Israel became independent. It remains to be seen if our
    government is trying to pretend that Israel was NEVER a legitimate state >despite our steadfast support of that state for many decades.

    While I had heard about the recognization (though said "Damn you Mark
    Carney!") I hadn't heard about any retroactive element in the
    decision.

    I would have no objection to recognition had they done that AFTER
    HAMAS signing a peace treaty but definitely before peace there is no
    basis for giving recognition.

    Canada didn't recognize Franco's Spain until 1947 despite the Spanish
    Civil War ending in 1939. (The only reason I know this is that my
    senior high math teacher had been an International Brigader who one
    day mentioned Canada hadn't recognized Franco until after WW2 - which
    is after he was discharged from the Canadian army and was in
    university on the Canadian equivalent to the GI Bill)

    It's going to be interesting to see what response the government makes
    to this woman's legal inquiry into the status quo.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Fri Nov 21 20:44:02 2025
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    On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 22:20:04 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Contrary to Zorchinsky's experience, a communications advisor
    for of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada, Jeffrey
    MacDonald, wrote in an email to NP that "(n)o changes have been
    made regarding the issuing of passports for individuals born
    in Israel."

    NP - is that the National Post newspaper?
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