• Re: What Did You Watch? 2025-11-16 (Sunday)

    From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Fri Nov 21 21:24:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.  One of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>>>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the >>>>>>>>>>> effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>>>>>> to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>>>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them.  That would be a bit more than 50 >>>>>>>> miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn’t >>>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that >>>>> they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the >>>>> Ark's course and were willing to do so.


    Watch the first two episodes last night. They find the bridge in the pilot.
    In the second episode, they find med bay which has some people that have >>>> reverted to savagery and a huge sleeper section full of corpse sicles. So >>>> they unfreeze Frank Converse, but he’s a poor choice because he’s dying of
    radiation sickness.

    But here’s the thing. They relocate the savages (luckily there’s an empty
    agricultural dome) and they refreeze Frank Converse after he gives them a >>>> lot of information but… They decide to move on. Now, why? They’ve got the
    helpful computer who can tell them things about the frozen dead. Likely >>>> anybody who can actually help them get the ship back on course is right >>>> there. They’re in med Bay. Find out about all the frozen technicians from
    the computer interface and start defrosting them!

    But instead episode three finds them with a crumpled up paper chart
    visiting the omicron dome, which has no women.

    Pretty typical of TV series where there is a "final" goal. You can't
    let the leads get too close to the solution because that would be the
    end of the show.

    And in another note, I received my copy of 'The Starcrossed' today.

    It was bound in reverse order. Last page first and first page last.
    Reported it to the big river and they said they'd send me another copy
    free. Don't have to return the defective one.


    Could you read it in a mirror?

    The pages are printed correctly, just in the wrong order.


    Humor, referring to how they write ambulance backwards, so you can read it
    from a helicopter
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    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Fri Nov 21 21:24:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:57 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn’t >>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you’re taking
    somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why?

    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.


    Yeah, that’s all I could think of. I don’t think we need 80000 of them >> though. And why aren’t they in the empty agricultural dome?

    Because they are in their own agricultural dome.


    Since the domes are all self-contained and sealed off from each other,
    what’s the point of the empty agricultural dome at all?
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    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Nov 22 09:00:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 11/21/2025 8:24 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.  One of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>>>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>>>>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the >>>>>>>>>>>> effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>>>>>>> to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>>>>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them.  That would be a bit more than 50 >>>>>>>>> miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn’t >>>>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that >>>>>> they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the >>>>>> Ark's course and were willing to do so.


    Watch the first two episodes last night. They find the bridge in the pilot.
    In the second episode, they find med bay which has some people that have >>>>> reverted to savagery and a huge sleeper section full of corpse sicles. So >>>>> they unfreeze Frank Converse, but he’s a poor choice because he’s dying of
    radiation sickness.

    But here’s the thing. They relocate the savages (luckily there’s an empty
    agricultural dome) and they refreeze Frank Converse after he gives them a >>>>> lot of information but… They decide to move on. Now, why? They’ve got the
    helpful computer who can tell them things about the frozen dead. Likely >>>>> anybody who can actually help them get the ship back on course is right >>>>> there. They’re in med Bay. Find out about all the frozen technicians from
    the computer interface and start defrosting them!

    But instead episode three finds them with a crumpled up paper chart
    visiting the omicron dome, which has no women.

    Pretty typical of TV series where there is a "final" goal. You can't
    let the leads get too close to the solution because that would be the
    end of the show.

    And in another note, I received my copy of 'The Starcrossed' today.

    It was bound in reverse order. Last page first and first page last.
    Reported it to the big river and they said they'd send me another copy >>>> free. Don't have to return the defective one.


    Could you read it in a mirror?

    The pages are printed correctly, just in the wrong order.


    Humor, referring to how they write ambulance backwards, so you can read it from a helicopter

    I knew what you meant, I'm just pissed that they fucked up something so
    basic.

    But back to the show, go-go boots Chekov was back. According it IMDb
    this episode was supposed to set him up as a recurring bad guy but that
    didn't happen.
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    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Nov 22 09:01:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 11/21/2025 8:24 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:57 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn’t >>>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you’re taking
    somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why? >>>>>
    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.


    Yeah, that’s all I could think of. I don’t think we need 80000 of them >>> though. And why aren’t they in the empty agricultural dome?

    Because they are in their own agricultural dome.


    Since the domes are all self-contained and sealed off from each other, what’s the point of the empty agricultural dome at all?

    I suspect it was empty because all the original inhabitants had died.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Nov 22 16:51:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/21/2025 8:24 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:57 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn’t >>>>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you’re taking
    somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why? >>>>>>
    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.


    Yeah, that’s all I could think of. I don’t think we need 80000 of them
    though. And why aren’t they in the empty agricultural dome?

    Because they are in their own agricultural dome.


    Since the domes are all self-contained and sealed off from each other,
    what’s the point of the empty agricultural dome at all?

    I suspect it was empty because all the original inhabitants had died.


    Frozen Frank Converse knew it was empty so apparently it had been empty for hundreds of years since the beginning of the voyage. Nobody ever checked on
    its current condition. They just tossed the savages inside.
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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