• Spin Cycle: Democrats Calling For An Insurrection =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wasn=92'?= A Problem Until Trump Didn't Like It

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    Several elected Democrats got together to make a video last week in which
    they openly encouraged members of the United States military to take matters into their own hands and subvert their Commander in Chief – but the real problem, as far as legacy media outlets are concerned, is that President Donald Trump didn’t take it quietly.

    For those who don’t spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television — and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week’s worth of network and cable news media spin — The Daily Wire has compiled a short summary of what you may have missed.

    The media personalities and members of Congress who appeared across Sunday morning’s political talk shows spent the majority of their time discussing Trump’s reaction to a video that featured Democrats — who had previously served in either the military or the intelligence community — wanting current service members that they could, and should, disobey any order from Trump
    that was “unlawful.” And although the video was light on specifics, it was heavy on the obvious insinuation that Trump either had or would issue such an order.

    Trump’s response to the video was entirely predictable: he lashed out via his Truth Social platform, and the Democrats highlighted his reaction as proof that he might do exactly as they’d warned.

    This is really bad, and Dangerous to our Country. Their words cannot
    be allowed to stand. SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR FROM TRAITORS!!! LOCK THEM
    UP??? SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH!

    Sens. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) and Mark Kelly (D-AZ), along with Reps. Chris Deluzio (D-PA), Chrissy Houlahan (D-PA), Maggie Goodlander (D-NH), and Jason Crow (D-CO), appeared in the video — and several of them made the rounds on Sunday morning to talk about Trump’s reaction.

    On ABC’s “This Week,” host Martha Raddatz began with the fact that Slotkin
    had been on the receiving end of death threats — and she immediately interpreted that as a reaction to Trump’s social media posts rather than to Slotkin’s participation in a video that, by multiple accounts, actively encouraged insurrection.

    Sen. Elissa Slotkin, who appeared in a video telling veterans and
    national security specialists to “refuse illegal orders,” responds
    to President Trump’s social media posts accusing her and others of
    “seditious behavior, punishable by death.” https://t.co/66zaLl3hl4
    pic.twitter.com/Evo4BpF5cE

    — This Week (@ThisWeekABC) November 23, 2025

    When pressed, Slotkin did ultimately concede that Trump had not given an illegal order that she knew of — yet — but she maintained the warning was justified because the Trump administration’s actions against narco-terrorists had involved some degree of “legal gymnastics.”

    Sen. Slotkin tells Martha Raddatz that she is “not aware” of illegal
    orders made, but says that “there are some legal gymnastics that are
    going on” in the Trump administration’s recent moves in the Caribbean
    and Venezuela. https://t.co/0rBn756p75 pic.twitter.com/eJMELd3Cx9

    — This Week (@ThisWeekABC) November 23, 2025

    Raddatz pointed to a concern voiced by Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who argued that making the video had been unwise: “You owe that to the men and women of the military to be specific about what you’re talking about … What theses senators and House members did was unnerving, and it was
    unconscionable to suggest that the President of the United States is issuing unlawful orders without giving an example.”

    “It makes me incredibly nervous that we’re about to see people in law enforcement … get nervous, get stressed, shoot at American civilians,”
    Slotkin pushed back.

    Sen. Slotkin says her “primary concern” is military use within the
    United States: “It makes me incredibly nervous that we’re about to
    see people in law enforcement … get nervous, get stressed, shoot at
    American civilians.” https://t.co/MFiqhccKmQ
    pic.twitter.com/5UVWurZgi5

    — This Week (@ThisWeekABC) November 23, 2025

    Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO), an Army Ranger veteran, also got death threats and blamed President Trump on the CBS News Sunday morning staple “Face the Nation”: “It’s very disturbing stuff. When you have the President of the United States threatening to execute and to hang and to arrest using this rhetoric, people listen to it.”

    Rep. Jason Crow says he is taking “seriously” the “very disturbing”
    death and bomb threats he, his family, and his office have received
    in the wake of President Trump’s rhetoric over the video to U.S.
    troops some Democratic lawmakers released.

    “It’s very disturbing stuff. When… pic.twitter.com/u42HpdcVTq

    — Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) November 23, 2025

    Crow defended the video by suggesting that even if an illegal order were to
    be issued, members of the military might not be ready to defy the Commander
    in Chief if Democrats did not take decisive action to groom them ahead of time.

    “If we wait until the moment that he gives a manifestly unlawful order to a young soldier, then we have failed them. We have to start that conversation now and get people thinking about the distinction, which is what we did,” he explained.

    “These, unfortunately, are some of Trump’s core supporters who are
    rallying behind the president, and they know better,” Rep. Jason
    Crow (D-CO) says of the video released by House Republicans
    countering the one released by Democratic lawmakers telling U.S.
    troops they can refuse… pic.twitter.com/N5y49Ky3BO

    — Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) November 23, 2025

    Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ) ignored the weight of his words — and the words of the others on the video — and claimed that Trump’s words attacking them carried such “weight” that he should hold his tongue.

    “His words carry tremendous weight, more so than anybody else in the country, and he should know that,” Kelly said, also suggesting that Trump’s reaction
    to the video was the main concern.

    Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ) says President Trump’s rhetoric in response
    to the Democratic lawmakers’ video to U.S. troops is “very serious,”
    arguing the president should “understand what political violence is.”

    “His words carry tremendous weight, more so than anybody else in
    the… pic.twitter.com/X3AVXTVvex

    — Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) November 23, 2025

    Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) also pointed the finger at Trump, saying his words were, “reckless, inappropriate, irresponsible.”

    Republican Sen. Rand Paul condemns President Trump’s social media
    rhetoric over the Democratic lawmakers’ video to U.S. troops,
    calling it “reckless, inappropriate, irresponsible.”

    “It’s not something that is helping the country heal wounds. I think
    it stirs things up, and… pic.twitter.com/iGN6rs70rU

    — Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) November 23, 2025

    On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Kristen Welker pressed Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-
    MN) — who was not a part of the video — on whether or not she knew of a specific “illegal” order.

    Klobuchar’s reply was vague: “If [a National Guard] commander were to tell [troops], hey, go out on the streets and do this and that, that’s not following the order that is in law. So I just use that example.”

    Welker: “Do you know what the specific illegal acts are that your
    Democratic colleagues were referring to?”

    Klobuchar: “If [a National Guard] commander were to tell [troops],
    hey, go out on the streets and do this and that, that’s not following
    the order that is in law. So I… https://t.co/viCkHoAxMJ
    pic.twitter.com/Qht2S09sNg

    — Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) November 23, 2025


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