• [OT] UK suspends local elections and may suspend national elections

    From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Jan 22 13:11:25 2026
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    Local elections have been delayed in some areas of England *again* this
    year; there were a number of local elections delayed last year as well.
    Some of the elections delayed this year are in the same areas as were
    delayed *last year*. And as if that isn't bad enough, the Labour
    government that dominates Parliament has launched a plan to delay
    NATIONAL elections as well, even though they aren't due until 2029 at
    the latest.

    For both the local and national elections, they give reasons to do with reorganizing government that may or may not have *some* merit but there
    is no doubt in anyone's mind that the REAL reasons have to do with
    Labour's extremely poor showing in the polls. Prime Minister Starmer was
    at 11% in his favourability ratings last week, the lowest value ever
    recorded since they started tracking favourability. There have already
    been several attempts within the Labour Party to dump Starmer as leader
    and replace him with someone else, none of which have set succeeded. But
    a major new challenger may now be entering the scene in the form of Andy Burnham, former Labour MP and present mayor of Manchester who now has
    the opportunity of getting back into Parliament because another Labour
    MP has resigned, opening the way for Burnham to contest the newly-vacant
    seat. (Labour leaders have to be sitting MPs.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewVQnrq518

    Just think about the optics of all of this! A widely despised government knowing that it will suffer immense losses in the next local elections
    to the upstart Reform party postpones local elections AND national
    elections. This puts the UK on the path to being a banana republic if
    the Brits allow it.

    Fortunately, it's very unlikely that they will stand for it. The only
    question is whether it can be settled peacefully or will require violence.
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    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Jan 22 19:19:28 2026
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    On Jan 22, 2026 at 10:11:25 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Local elections have been delayed in some areas of England *again* this year; there were a number of local elections delayed last year as well.
    Some of the elections delayed this year are in the same areas as were delayed *last year*. And as if that isn't bad enough, the Labour
    government that dominates Parliament has launched a plan to delay
    NATIONAL elections as well, even though they aren't due until 2029 at
    the latest.

    "But... but... muh democracy!!!"

    How is this not worse than January 6th?

    For both the local and national elections, they give reasons to do with reorganizing government that may or may not have *some* merit but there
    is no doubt in anyone's mind that the REAL reasons have to do with
    Labour's extremely poor showing in the polls. Prime Minister Starmer was
    at 11% in his favourability ratings last week, the lowest value ever recorded since they started tracking favourability. There have already
    been several attempts within the Labour Party to dump Starmer as leader
    and replace him with someone else, none of which have set succeeded. But
    a major new challenger may now be entering the scene in the form of Andy Burnham, former Labour MP and present mayor of Manchester who now has
    the opportunity of getting back into Parliament because another Labour
    MP has resigned, opening the way for Burnham to contest the newly-vacant seat. (Labour leaders have to be sitting MPs.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewVQnrq518

    Just think about the optics of all of this! A widely despised government knowing that it will suffer immense losses in the next local elections
    to the upstart Reform party postpones local elections AND national elections. This puts the UK on the path to being a banana republic if
    the Brits allow it.

    It's always the people screaming the loudest about "protecting our democracy" that are the first to subvert it the moment they're given the chance.

    Just look at Newsom, who goes around telling every camera he can find about what a threat Trump is to democracy and how we must save it from him, then he disenfranchises 40% of California in Congress and laughs about it.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Jan 22 19:39:01 2026
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Jan 22, 2026 at 10:11:25 AM PST, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:

    Local elections have been delayed in some areas of England *again* this >>year; there were a number of local elections delayed last year as well. >>Some of the elections delayed this year are in the same areas as were >>delayed *last year*. And as if that isn't bad enough, the Labour >>government that dominates Parliament has launched a plan to delay
    NATIONAL elections as well, even though they aren't due until 2029 at
    the latest.

    "But... but... muh democracy!!!"

    How is this not worse than January 6th?

    Plenty of Americans objected to the riot and storming of Capitol Hill
    and the policemen who were attacked.

    Is everyone in the UK sitting on his hands? That's truly sad.
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Jan 24 14:54:16 2026
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    Rhino wrote:


    Local elections have been delayed in some areas of England *again* this >year; there were a number of local elections delayed last year as well.
    Some of the elections delayed this year are in the same areas as were >delayed *last year*. And as if that isn't bad enough, the Labour
    government that dominates Parliament has launched a plan to delay
    NATIONAL elections as well, even though they aren't due until 2029 at
    the latest.


    Word is that the King is in charge now. Trump needs to do the same lest
    his agenda will fail to meet its goals. He's cancelling the midterms.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 24 16:43:28 2026
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    On 2026-01-22 2:39 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Jan 22, 2026 at 10:11:25 AM PST, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:

    Local elections have been delayed in some areas of England *again* this
    year; there were a number of local elections delayed last year as well.
    Some of the elections delayed this year are in the same areas as were
    delayed *last year*. And as if that isn't bad enough, the Labour
    government that dominates Parliament has launched a plan to delay
    NATIONAL elections as well, even though they aren't due until 2029 at
    the latest.

    "But... but... muh democracy!!!"

    How is this not worse than January 6th?

    Plenty of Americans objected to the riot and storming of Capitol Hill
    and the policemen who were attacked.

    Is everyone in the UK sitting on his hands? That's truly sad.

    I've seen predictions that the Brits definitely will NOT stand for it, although they are not out in the streets yet. I think they're waiting
    for the opposition parties and the House of Lords to respond first
    before they feel the need to act, at least with respect to the potential
    of postponed national elections. The Opposition are outnumbered in
    Parliament but still get heard on some media outlets and therefore carry significant influence. The Lords have some power, too. I'm not sure if
    the courts can be of assistance or if Labour has so much sway in the
    courts that they are more likely to side with Labour at this point.

    [Did you know that Labour is also working on legislation to end jury
    trials? I'm not sure if it is across the board or only for certain
    crimes but that is a horrifying assault on freedom. Having no hope
    except for the compassion/reason of the judge is not a good position for
    any defendant.]

    There is definitely a lot of talk about the postponement of local
    elections but it was a LOCAL decision to postpone them, not (officially)
    a Starmer decision. Legislation was enacted in the time of covid that
    enabled local councils to defer elections in emergencies and that's what
    the councils are using to delay their elections. (Mind you the
    "emergency" being used is the need to reorganize local governments to
    some extent, so they claim that it would be "wasteful" to have an
    election on time and then have another the next year. Hardly an
    emergency in my book!) The large majority of councils postponing their elections are dominated by Labour; the rest are Conservative. The Conservatives are NOT popular either after 14 consecutive years. Both
    parties expect to lose big in the next local elections, mostly to Nigel Farage's upstart Reform Party. Of course I'm sure the national Labour
    Party is urging the Labour-dominated councils to defer elections behind
    the scenes: Starmer is petrified of losing a large number of councils
    because local elections are widely seen as a bellwether of how the
    national parties will do in the next national elections. Of course
    Starmer is so despised that pretty much everyone expects he'll be booted
    out of the leadership in short order. Some said he wouldn't make it to
    this past Christmas; many are certain he'll be bounced immediately after
    local election that are being held if Labour loses any significant
    amount of seats.

    And that's actually my nightmare. I was counting on Trudeau to still
    hang on and contest our last election but the Liberals pulled a
    switcheroo and swapped Carney in. In a miracle that defies reason, the electorate apparently decided that was good enough despite the fact that
    the same clowns had slavishly agreed with everything Trudeau wanted to
    do and should have been held to account. I'm terrified that the same
    will happen in the UK and forgive Labour as soon as it has a new leader.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Jan 24 16:44:11 2026
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    On 2026-01-24 9:54 a.m., phoenix wrote:
    Rhino wrote:


    Local elections have been delayed in some areas of England *again* this
    year; there were a number of local elections delayed last year as well.
    Some of the elections delayed this year are in the same areas as were
    delayed *last year*. And as if that isn't bad enough, the Labour
    government that dominates Parliament has launched a plan to delay
    NATIONAL elections as well, even though they aren't due until 2029 at
    the latest.


    Word is that the King is in charge now. Trump needs to do the same lest his agenda will fail to meet its goals. He's cancelling the midterms.

    Idiot! I mean YOU, not Trump.
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    Rhino
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 24 22:04:09 2026
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    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    . . .

    [Did you know that Labour is also working on legislation to end jury
    trials? I'm not sure if it is across the board or only for certain
    crimes but that is a horrifying assault on freedom. Having no hope
    except for the compassion/reason of the judge is not a good position for
    any defendant.]

    How can they violate Magna Carta? That's the one part of their
    constitution that's written! The rest is common law.

    . . .
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 24 17:26:31 2026
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    On 2026-01-24 5:04 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    . . .

    [Did you know that Labour is also working on legislation to end jury
    trials? I'm not sure if it is across the board or only for certain
    crimes but that is a horrifying assault on freedom. Having no hope
    except for the compassion/reason of the judge is not a good position for
    any defendant.]

    How can they violate Magna Carta? That's the one part of their
    constitution that's written! The rest is common law.

    . . .
    No idea. I haven't heard any details yet. I'm eager to hear Jacob
    Rees-Mogg explain all of this.
    --
    Rhino
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