On 2026-01-30, jmquown wrote:
The frozen fries I bought [...]
Hopefully they will be crispy inside, tender outside.
!?!?! Surely you mean "tender inside, crispy outside.
Sure, there was time during college in my 'experimental' phase
when we needed some chocolate chip cookies really fast so we
microwaved some Pilsbury pre-mixed dough and yes, the cookies
were quite quickly 'done' if I can use that word whimsically.
The texture though was more like charcoal centres
surrounded with liquid-seeping raw cookie dough.
I think we got our metrics imperially inverted.
On 1/31/2026 11:25 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-01-31, Bryan Simmons wrote:
20F is freakishly cold for there, but not cold enough
to freeze the spigot on the side of a heated building.
[...] No one's kitchen sink pipes are going to freeze
in coastal SC because they didn't leave the cabinet open.
I'm not sure I have the proper context here. It gets cold
enough here that my 'exterior' faucets will freeze. (Tt depends
a lot on the pipe size, basement temperature, and wall width.
Winterizing task: Shut off interior valve & drain at exterior.)
But you seem to be speaking of interior non-pressure pipes.
Surely they go into the ground well below max frost depth.
Bryan doesn't know squat.
It is recommended by the water company
here to drip the outdoor faucets and to open the cabinet doors inside
if the pipes are on an outer facing wall.
They are not buried very
deep since it's only about 21 ft. above sea level. So yes, they can
freeze.
Meanwhile, Bryan can worry about some silly gadget he found
in a drawer.
Jill
On 1/31/2026 8:14 AM, jmquown wrote:
On 1/30/2026 6:20 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
But it will be very cold. Low temps predicted overnight on Saturday in >>> the 20's. I'll drip the outdoor faucets just in case things freeze.
20F is freakishly cold for there, but not cold enough to freeze the
spigot on the side of a heated building.
Good idea with the outdoor faucets. I've been leaving my sink cabinet
doors open overnight to stave off any freezing. At nearly 5:20
temperatures
here have already dipped to 25°F (-3.88°C).
Yes, the outdoor faucets and also I'll keep the kitchen cabinet doors
open since the sink is on an outside wall.
It gets down to below zero F here, and I never do that. No one's kitchen sink pipes are going to freeze in coastal SC because they didn't leave
the cabinet open.
On 31 Jan 2026 01:28:07 GMT
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, jmquown wrote:
The frozen fries I bought [...]
Hopefully they will be crispy inside, tender outside.
!?!?! Surely you mean "tender inside, crispy outside.
Sure, there was time during college in my 'experimental' phase
when we needed some chocolate chip cookies really fast so we
microwaved some Pilsbury pre-mixed dough and yes, the cookies
were quite quickly 'done' if I can use that word whimsically.
The texture though was more like charcoal centres
surrounded with liquid-seeping raw cookie dough.
I think we got our metrics imperially inverted.
roflol
On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 12:50:11 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Meanwhile, Bryan can worry about some silly gadget he found
in a drawer.
Jill
And that minor discovery has you in a dither, mercy but you're hair-triggered!
Everyone in this area worried about snow in southern SC. Predictions
have it set to start in the late afternoon Saturday. One-2 inches
predicted overnight. It won't bother me if it happens because it will
melt by Sunday afternoon. Heck, right now it's nearly 60°F outside.
On 1/31/2026 3:04 PM, Tal Yessen wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 12:50:11 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Meanwhile, Bryan can worry about some silly gadget he found
in a drawer.
I wasn't worried. I was curious.
Imagine being a 65 year old crone who hasn't had her pussy licked in >decades. Her love life has been a dismal failure. All those wasted years.
Jill
And that minor discovery has you in a dither, mercy but you're
hair-triggered!
On 2026-01-30, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Everyone in this area worried about snow in southern SC. Predictions
have it set to start in the late afternoon Saturday. One-2 inches
predicted overnight. It won't bother me if it happens because it will
melt by Sunday afternoon. Heck, right now it's nearly 60°F outside.
It's the 31st. The news showed a reporter in Myrtle Beach standing in
snow flurries at dusk. She reported that significant snow was predicted.
If you get more than a inch on the ground, it'll be more than I've had,
at my house, all year. And, I'm just east of the Sierra Nevada.
Yesterday, we had posole. There's plenty left for tonight.
Stay safe!
leo
It is now 2/1. Today there is a little snow on the ground. It started sleeting around 4PM yesterday then turned to snow flurries. It was pretty! It didn't last long but there is snow on the ground this morning.
Jill
Richland county had a couple of inches
and the cars were not handling it very well.
Sometimes it is best to
On 1/31/2026 2:53 PM, Tal Yessen wrote:
On 31 Jan 2026 01:28:07 GMT
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, jmquown wrote:
The frozen fries I bought [...]
Hopefully they will be crispy inside, tender outside.
!?!?! Surely you mean "tender inside, crispy outside.
Sure, there was time during college in my 'experimental' phase
when we needed some chocolate chip cookies really fast so we
microwaved some Pilsbury pre-mixed dough and yes, the cookies
were quite quickly 'done' if I can use that word whimsically.
The texture though was more like charcoal centres
surrounded with liquid-seeping raw cookie dough.
I think we got our metrics imperially inverted.
roflolDid you *really* roll on the floor laughing out load? Maybe you were
just being whimsical. It wasn't that funny. I wonder if anyone caught
the other layer of humor there--likely not even intentional.
right now theHow often is this perturbation of the polar vortex going to keep
temperature here is 19°F with a *steady* north, northwest wind which
the side of my house where the kitchen is located is receiving a
constant blast of frigid air.
On 1/31/2026 3:04 PM, Tal Yessen wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 12:50:11 -0500I wasn't worried. I was curious.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Meanwhile, Bryan can worry about some silly gadget he found
in a drawer.
Jill
And that minor discovery has you in a dither, mercy but you're hair-triggered!Imagine being a 65 year old crone who hasn't had her pussy licked in decades. Her love life has been a dismal failure. All those wasted
years.
On 2/1/2026 8:02 AM, jmquown wrote:
It is now 2/1. Today there is a little snow on the ground. It started sleeting around 4PM yesterday then turned to snow flurries. It was pretty! It didn't last long but there is snow on the ground this morning.
Jill
A bit west of you- - - -
I watched On Patrol Live last night. Richland county had a couple of
inches and the cars were not handling it very well. Cops had to push a couple of cars to get them moving.
Sometimes it is best to just stay home.
On 2026-02-01, Ed P wrote:
Richland county had a couple of inches
and the cars were not handling it very well.
Sometimes it is best to
Mount snow tires. Here, it's the law 15 Dec -> 15 Mar.
Even without studs, snow tires & 4WD can
easily handle up to half a foot of snow.
On 2026-02-01, Ed P wrote:
Richland county had a couple of inches
and the cars were not handling it very well.
Sometimes it is best to
Mount snow tires. Here, it's the law 15 Dec -> 15 Mar.
Even without studs, snow tires & 4WD can
easily handle up to half a foot of snow.
On 2026-02-01 11:13 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-02-01, Ed P wrote:
Richland county had a couple of inches
and the cars were not handling it very well.
Sometimes it is best to
Mount snow tires. Here, it's the law 15 Dec -> 15 Mar.
Even without studs, snow tires & 4WD can
easily handle up to half a foot of snow.
Is that snow tires or winter tires? Snow tires usually used to involve
a more aggressive treat pattern but now also involve a softer compound
that they claim improves the grip. That may be a good idea in the areas
much further north where it gets so much colder but I don't see the advantage here in southern Ontario where it rarely gets down to 0F.
The down side of the winter tires is that they wear down a lot faster. I have been using all season radials since the mid 70s and they work just fine. I worked for the people who cleared the highways so I had to get
to work. The funny thing was that on my way to work I used to see lots
of 4WD vehicles with snow tires that had ended up stuck in the snow.
There is a big push here for winter tires to be mandatory but the only people really pushing it are the tire companies and shops who stand to
make a lot of money on them.
Oh, you're an expert on who's pipes do and do not freeze?? I've been
in my house almost 38 years and two years ago my kitchen pipes froze
for the first time /ever./ That was a stunner and right now the temperature here is 19°F with a *steady* north, northwest wind which
the side of my house where the kitchen is located is receiving a constant blast of frigid air.
I've never wanted a cookie that badly!
Sometimes it is best to just stay home.
On 2026-02-01 10:08 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-02-01 11:13 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:Winter tyres recommended but not mandatory here, where we've been in the -20s Celsius recently.
On 2026-02-01, Ed P wrote:
Richland county had a couple of inches
and the cars were not handling it very well.
Sometimes it is best to
Mount snow tires. Here, it's the law 15 Dec -> 15 Mar.
Even without studs, snow tires & 4WD can
easily handle up to half a foot of snow.
Is that snow tires or winter tires? Snow tires usually used to
involve a more aggressive treat pattern but now also involve a softer
compound that they claim improves the grip. That may be a good idea in
the areas much further north where it gets so much colder but I don't
see the advantage here in southern Ontario where it rarely gets down
to 0F.
The down side of the winter tires is that they wear down a lot faster.
I have been using all season radials since the mid 70s and they work
just fine. I worked for the people who cleared the highways so I had
to get to work. The funny thing was that on my way to work I used to
see lots of 4WD vehicles with snow tires that had ended up stuck in
the snow.
There is a big push here for winter tires to be mandatory but the only
people really pushing it are the tire companies and shops who stand to
make a lot of money on them.
I have them because it's sensible and also they are mandatory in BC if I visit family.
There is a big push here for winter tires to be mandatory but the
only people really pushing it are the tire companies and shops who
stand to make a lot of money on them.
On 2026-02-01 11:13 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-02-01, Ed P wrote:
Richland county had a couple of inches
and the cars were not handling it very well.
Sometimes it is best to
Mount snow tires. Here, it's the law 15 Dec -> 15 Mar.
Even without studs, snow tires & 4WD can
easily handle up to half a foot of snow.
Is that snow tires or winter tires? Snow tires usually used to involve
a more aggressive treat pattern but now also involve a softer compound
that they claim improves the grip. That may be a good idea in the areas
much further north where it gets so much colder but I don't see the advantage here in southern Ontario where it rarely gets down to 0F.
The down side of the winter tires is that they wear down a lot faster.
I have been using all season radials since the mid 70s and they work
just fine. I worked for the people who cleared the highways so I had to
get to work. The funny thing was that on my way to work I used to see
lots of 4WD vehicles with snow tires that had ended up stuck in the snow.
There is a big push here for winter tires to be mandatory but the only people really pushing it are the tire companies and shops who stand to
make a lot of money on them.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-02-01 11:13 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-02-01, Ed P wrote:
Richland county had a couple of inches
and the cars were not handling it very well.
Sometimes it is best to
Mount snow tires. Here, it's the law 15 Dec -> 15 Mar.
Even without studs, snow tires & 4WD can
easily handle up to half a foot of snow.
Is that snow tires or winter tires? Snow tires usually used to involve
a more aggressive treat pattern but now also involve a softer compound
that they claim improves the grip. That may be a good idea in the areas
much further north where it gets so much colder but I don't see the
advantage here in southern Ontario where it rarely gets down to 0F.
The down side of the winter tires is that they wear down a lot faster.
I have been using all season radials since the mid 70s and they work
just fine. I worked for the people who cleared the highways so I had to
get to work. The funny thing was that on my way to work I used to see
lots of 4WD vehicles with snow tires that had ended up stuck in the snow. >>
There is a big push here for winter tires to be mandatory but the only
people really pushing it are the tire companies and shops who stand to
make a lot of money on them.
I don't know a thing about driving on snow. Hopefully, I can keep it that way.
My brother-in-laws did warn me about driving on the deadly black ice. This happens when the roads are frozen with no snow on it. I met up with black ice a couple of times in Washington State. We saw it up ahead one day as we approached
it. "Oh my God! It's black ice!" I thought. In the end, we just rolled through it.
That's what you do it seems, you just roll right through it. Well alright.
On 2026-02-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I don't know a thing about driving on snow. Hopefully, I can keep it that way.
My brother-in-laws did warn me about driving on the deadly black ice. This >> happens when the roads are frozen with no snow on it. I met up with black ice
a couple of times in Washington State. We saw it up ahead one day as we approached
it. "Oh my God! It's black ice!" I thought. In the end, we just rolled through it.
That's what you do it seems, you just roll right through it. Well alright.
Unless it's on a curve. Then Sir Isaac Newton is driving your car.
A lot of people get 4WD or AWD vehicles because they think they are
safer and that they will get them through when regular front wheel drive would leave them stranded.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
A lot of people get 4WD or AWD vehicles because they think they are
safer and that they will get them through when regular front wheel drive
would leave them stranded.
I distinctly remember a news blurb in the mid to late 70's about a couple
and another couple trying out in their brand new 4WD truck in the snow and ice. Joy riding and they got stuck, slid off into a creek and all four drowned. That article has always stuck with me and when someone around
here mentions they have 4WD like they're infallible that incident pops into my mind.
Yep. That is the attitude that gets drivers in trouble. They have snow
tires and 4WD and they think they are invincible. The fact is that they have a big advantage, but they still have to slow down and be careful.
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Yep. That is the attitude that gets drivers in trouble. They have snow
tires and 4WD and they think they are invincible. The fact is that they
have a big advantage, but they still have to slow down and be careful.
and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
songbirdI once suggested that to a co-worker, maybe 400 pounds or so. He agreed
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Yep. That is the attitude that gets drivers in trouble. They have snow
tires and 4WD and they think they are invincible. The fact is that they >> have a big advantage, but they still have to slow down and be careful.
and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
songbirdI once suggested that to a co-worker, maybe 400 pounds or so. He agreed
it is a good idea, but said his wife had to stay home with the kids.
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:
I once suggested that to a co-worker, maybe 400 pounds or so. He agreed
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Yep. That is the attitude that gets drivers in trouble. They have snow
tires and 4WD and they think they are invincible. The fact is that they >> >> have a big advantage, but they still have to slow down and be careful.
and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
songbird
it is a good idea, but said his wife had to stay home with the kids.
I hope he didn't say that in front of his wife! She might end up
driving that truck with *his* body in the truck bed.
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:
I once suggested that to a co-worker, maybe 400 pounds or so. He agreed
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Yep. That is the attitude that gets drivers in trouble. They have snow >>>> tires and 4WD and they think they are invincible. The fact is that they >>>> have a big advantage, but they still have to slow down and be careful.
and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
songbird
it is a good idea, but said his wife had to stay home with the kids.
I hope he didn't say that in front of his wife! She might end up
driving that truck with *his* body in the truck bed.
~
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
A lot of people get 4WD or AWD vehicles because they think they are
safer and that they will get them through when regular front wheel drive
would leave them stranded.
I distinctly remember a news blurb in the mid to late 70's about a couple
and another couple trying out in their brand new 4WD truck in the snow and ice. Joy riding and they got stuck, slid off into a creek and all four drowned. That article has always stuck with me and when someone around
here mentions they have 4WD like they're infallible that incident pops into my mind.
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Yep. That is the attitude that gets drivers in trouble. They have snow
tires and 4WD and they think they are invincible. The fact is that they
have a big advantage, but they still have to slow down and be careful.
and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
songbird
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:I have had a couple pickup trucks and when I worked in the equipment
  and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
  songbird
True! For some reason people think pickup trucks are heavy. Not if the truck bed is empty.
On 2026-02-02 8:31 a.m., jmquown wrote:
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:
  and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
  songbird
True! For some reason people think pickup trucks are heavy. Not if the truck bed is empty.I have had a couple pickup trucks and when I worked in the equipment
section I drove a lot of different pickups. They all handle badly on icy
and snowy roads. I kept about 200 pounds of ballast in the back end of
mine.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-02-02 8:31 a.m., jmquown wrote:
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:I have had a couple pickup trucks and when I worked in the equipment
  and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
  songbird
True! For some reason people think pickup trucks are heavy. Not if the >>> truck bed is empty.
section I drove a lot of different pickups. They all handle badly on icy
and snowy roads. I kept about 200 pounds of ballast in the back end of
mine.
My mom's Barracuda had a light rear end. I felt the rear slide on turns a couple
of times. That was pretty unsafe, if you ask me. My Fiat had a linkage on the rear axle that reduced brake pressure to rear brakes if the car's rear end got
too high during braking. Some pickups used to have a similar system. These days
the rear end locking up is probably prevented by the ABS system on most pickups -
but I might be wrong about that.
On 2/2/2026 10:19 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-02-02 8:31 a.m., jmquown wrote:
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:I have had a couple pickup trucks and when I worked in the equipment
  and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
  songbird
True! For some reason people think pickup trucks are heavy. Not if the
truck bed is empty.
section I drove a lot of different pickups. They all handle badly on icy >> and snowy roads. I kept about 200 pounds of ballast in the back end of
mine.
My mom's Barracuda had a light rear end. I felt the rear slide on turns a couple
of times. That was pretty unsafe, if you ask me. My Fiat had a linkage on the
rear axle that reduced brake pressure to rear brakes if the car's rear end got
too high during braking. Some pickups used to have a similar system. These days
the rear end locking up is probably prevented by the ABS system on most pickups -
but I might be wrong about that.
You owned a Fiat too. I owned 2, a 500 and an X 1/9. The rich guy in my
book drives a little sky blue 500.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 2/2/2026 10:19 AM, dsi1 wrote:
You owned a Fiat too. I owned 2, a 500 and an X 1/9. The rich guy in my
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-02-02 8:31 a.m., jmquown wrote:
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:I have had a couple pickup trucks and when I worked in the equipment
  and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
  songbird
True! For some reason people think pickup trucks are heavy. Not if the
truck bed is empty.
section I drove a lot of different pickups. They all handle badly on icy >>>> and snowy roads. I kept about 200 pounds of ballast in the back end of >>>> mine.
My mom's Barracuda had a light rear end. I felt the rear slide on turns a couple
of times. That was pretty unsafe, if you ask me. My Fiat had a linkage on the
rear axle that reduced brake pressure to rear brakes if the car's rear end got
too high during braking. Some pickups used to have a similar system. These days
the rear end locking up is probably prevented by the ABS system on most pickups -
but I might be wrong about that.
book drives a little sky blue 500.
Those are lovely cars - except for the 500.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4vaFRzKPySYnUo37
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 2/2/2026 10:19 AM, dsi1 wrote:
You owned a Fiat too. I owned 2, a 500 and an X 1/9. The rich guy in my
My mom's Barracuda had a light rear end. I felt the rear slide on turns a couple
of times. That was pretty unsafe, if you ask me. My Fiat had a linkage on the
rear axle that reduced brake pressure to rear brakes if the car's rear end got
too high during braking. Some pickups used to have a similar system. These days
the rear end locking up is probably prevented by the ABS system on most pickups -
but I might be wrong about that.
book drives a little sky blue 500.
Those are lovely cars - except for the 500.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4vaFRzKPySYnUo37
I have had a couple pickup trucks and when I worked in the equipment
section I drove a lot of different pickups. They all handle badly on icy
and snowy roads. I kept about 200 pounds of ballast in the back end of
mine.
On 2/2/2026 10:19 AM, dsi1 wrote:
You owned a Fiat too. I owned 2, a 500 and an X 1/9. The rich guy in my
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-02-02 8:31 a.m., jmquown wrote:
On 2/1/2026 10:38 PM, songbird wrote:I have had a couple pickup trucks and when I worked in the equipment
  and if they don't have enough weight in the back end
of the truck...
  songbird
True! For some reason people think pickup trucks are heavy. Not
if the
truck bed is empty.
section I drove a lot of different pickups. They all handle badly on icy >>> and snowy roads. I kept about 200 pounds of ballast in the back end of
mine.
My mom's Barracuda had a light rear end. I felt the rear slide on
turns a couple
of times. That was pretty unsafe, if you ask me. My Fiat had a linkage
on the
rear axle that reduced brake pressure to rear brakes if the car's rear
end got
too high during braking. Some pickups used to have a similar system.
These days
the rear end locking up is probably prevented by the ABS system on
most pickups -
but I might be wrong about that.
book drives a little sky blue 500.
Dave Smith wrote:
for extra weight i'd shovel snow in the back of truck if
there wasn't enough in there. a nice self-regulating feature
since it would melt once the weather got warm enough and i
didn't have to figure out what to do with bricks or sandbags
or whatever i might have otherwise used.
Those snow tires would probably end up being dry rotted by the time
those South Carolinians would need them again. I think I heard Officer
Avery state this was the first snow they'd had since 2011.
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