Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-03-31 6:06 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
On 3/31/2026 10:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Many people know ... --- ... even if they do not know how to send andWho the heck wants to be pushed around by a clock? I have a Chinese >>>>> flashlight
it has a low and high settings. It also has a third setting that
flashes SOS.
That's crazy - or is it?
What's the point of having a setting to flash SOS if no one knows
Morse code any more?
receive Morse code.
I confess that I would have to refresh my skills of Morse code and
Semaphore but I do understand how it works. Perhaps you should pit
things in perspective and consider that David was replying to the troll
who would rather dig latrines than learn those skills. I know some
people hate to have to deal with facts, but Mr. Google reports that only
1% of the world's population is proficient at sending and receiving
Morse code, so that makes me repeat the question and the value of a
setting that sends SOS in Morse Code when so few people seeing that
flashing are going to realize it is a code and then be able to
understand it.
If you were incapacitated and were unable to use your hands or to speak,
what are the chances that you would be able to blink a message to
your caregivers? What do you think the chances would be that your nurses
or doctors would be able to read your eye blinks?
People don't have to know Morse code, but they should know ...---..., at least.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:flashing are going to realize it is a code and then be able to
understand it.
If you were incapacitated and were unable to use your hands or to speak,
what are the chances that you would be able to blink a message to
your caregivers? What do you think the chances would be that your nurses
or doctors would be able to read your eye blinks?
People don't have to know Morse code, but they should know ...---..., at least.
On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 23:30:39 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-03-31 6:06 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
Many people know ... --- ... even if they do not know how to send and
receive Morse code.
I confess that I would have to refresh my skills of Morse code and
Semaphore but I do understand how it works. Perhaps you should pit
things in perspective and consider that David was replying to the troll
who would rather dig latrines than learn those skills. I know some
people hate to have to deal with facts, but Mr. Google reports that only >>> 1% of the world's population is proficient at sending and receiving
Morse code, so that makes me repeat the question and the value of a
setting that sends SOS in Morse Code when so few people seeing that
flashing are going to realize it is a code and then be able to
understand it.
If you were incapacitated and were unable to use your hands or to speak, >>> what are the chances that you would be able to blink a message to
your caregivers? What do you think the chances would be that your nurses >>> or doctors would be able to read your eye blinks?
People don't have to know Morse code, but they should know ...---..., at least.
I bet only old people know that. The "kids" probably don't.
On 2026-03-31, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Teaching Morse code and semaphore in the woods sounds like a waste of nature.
That should be taught in a class room. Congrats on being late for everything.
it has a low and high settings. It also has a third setting that flashes SOS.
That's crazy - or is it?
Dad knew Morse code. He spent time as the radio operator on the SS
Sapona. I'm not sure if he was the radio operator when it ran aground,
in Bimini, in 1926.
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are we going
to get transporters for real?
On 3/31/2026 7:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 23:30:39 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-03-31 6:06 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
Many people know ... --- ... even if they do not know how to send and >>>>> receive Morse code.
I confess that I would have to refresh my skills of Morse code and
Semaphore but I do understand how it works. Perhaps you should pit
things in perspective and consider that David was replying to the troll >>>> who would rather dig latrines than learn those skills. I know some
people hate to have to deal with facts, but Mr. Google reports that only >>>> 1% of the world's population is proficient at sending and receiving
Morse code, so that makes me repeat the question and the value of a
setting that sends SOS in Morse Code when so few people seeing that
flashing are going to realize it is a code and then be able to
understand it.
If you were incapacitated and were unable to use your hands or to speak, >>>> what are the chances that you would be able to blink a message to
your caregivers? What do you think the chances would be that your nurses >>>> or doctors would be able to read your eye blinks?
People don't have to know Morse code, but they should know ...---..., at least.
I bet only old people know that. The "kids" probably don't.
Today they probably would post it on Facebook
Doesn’t sound crazy. It is the universally recognized distress signal.
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-03-31, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Teaching Morse code and semaphore in the woods sounds like a waste of nature.
That should be taught in a class room. Congrats on being late for everything.
it has a low and high settings. It also has a third setting that flashes SOS.
That's crazy - or is it?
Dad knew Morse code. He spent time as the radio operator on the SS
Sapona. I'm not sure if he was the radio operator when it ran aground,
in Bimini, in 1926.
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are we going
to get transporters for real?
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have pinpointed the reason it
ran aground. It's made out of concrete - that seems like a serious problem - but
I don't know a thing about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about
top of the water seems unholy. As I recall, Jesus choose to walk on the water. He
probably would have refused to walk on water if his sandals were made of concrete.
On 2026-03-31 7:30 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
flashing are going to realize it is a code and then be able to
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
understand it.
If you were incapacitated and were unable to use your hands or to speak, >>> what are the chances that you would be able to blink a message to
your caregivers? What do you think the chances would be that your nurses >>> or doctors would be able to read your eye blinks?
People don't have to know Morse code, but they should know ...---..., at least.
-.-. .- -. / -.-- --- ..- / .-. . .- -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. ---
-.. . ..--..
On 2026-03-31, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Teaching Morse code and semaphore in the woods sounds like a waste
of nature. That should be taught in a class room. Congrats on being
late for everything. it has a low and high settings. It also has a
third setting that flashes SOS. That's crazy - or is it?
Dad knew Morse code. He spent time as the radio operator on the SS
Sapona. I'm not sure if he was the radio operator when it ran aground,
in Bimini, in 1926.
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are we
going to get transporters for real?
On 3/31/2026 10:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-03-31 4:34 p.m., dsi1 wrote:Many people know ... --- ... even if they do not know how to send and receive Morse code.
marika <marika5000@gmail.com> posted:
Teaching Morse code and semaphore in the woods sounds like a waste of
nature.
That should be taught in a class room. Congrats on being late for
everything.
Who the heck wants to be pushed around by a clock? I have a Chinese
flashlight
it has a low and high settings. It also has a third setting that
flashes SOS.
That's crazy - or is it?
What's the point of having a setting to flash SOS if no one knows Morse
code any more?
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have pinpointed the reason it
ran aground. It's made out of concrete - that seems like a serious problem - but
I don't know a thing about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about
top of the water seems unholy.
On 2026-04-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have pinpointed the reason it
ran aground. It's made out of concrete - that seems like a serious problem - but
I don't know a thing about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about
top of the water seems unholy.
Yet millions of pieces of wood, leaves, and insects manage it quite >naturally.
On 2026-04-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have pinpointed the reason it
ran aground. It's made out of concrete - that seems like a serious problem - but
I don't know a thing about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about
top of the water seems unholy.
Yet millions of pieces of wood, leaves, and insects manage it quite naturally.
We have
a local landmark that may last another 100 years or it may slip away in
the near future. A little over 100 years ago a steel scow was being used
to dredge sand and rock from the upper Niagara River. It ran aground
about a half mile from the edge of the falls. There was a gallant effort
to rescue the two men on board. The scow has become famous.
A couple years ago we had record high water levels and high winds that increased the depth of the river and the power of the current and it dislodged the scow from the spot were it had been sitting for a hundred years and pushed it about 50 yards closer to the falls. Over the past 5 years or so there have been a few pieces breaking off and perhaps going
over the falls. It is just a matter of time before that old craft disintegrates and goes over the falls.
On 3/31/2026 10:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-03-31 4:34 p.m., dsi1 wrote:Many people know ... --- ...
marika <marika5000@gmail.com> posted:
Teaching Morse code and semaphore in the woods sounds like a waste of
nature.
That should be taught in a class room. Congrats on being late for
everything.
Who the heck wants to be pushed around by a clock? I have a Chinese
flashlight
it has a low and high settings. It also has a third setting that
flashes SOS.
That's crazy - or is it?
What's the point of having a setting to flash SOS if no one knows Morse
code any more?
On 2026-04-01 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-04-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have pinpointed the reason it
ran aground. It's made out of concrete - that seems like a serious problem - but
I don't know a thing about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about
top of the water seems unholy.
Yet millions of pieces of wood, leaves, and insects manage it quite naturally.
Some of them have built reputations on their ability to endure. We have
a local landmark that may last another 100 years or it may slip away in
the near future. A little over 100 years ago a steel scow was being used
to dredge sand and rock from the upper Niagara River. It ran aground
about a half mile from the edge of the falls. There was a gallant effort
to rescue the two men on board. The scow has become famous.
A couple years ago we had record high water levels and high winds that increased the depth of the river and the power of the current and it dislodged the scow from the spot were it had been sitting for a hundred years and pushed it about 50 yards closer to the falls. Over the past 5 years or so there have been a few pieces breaking off and perhaps going
over the falls. It is just a matter of time before that old craft disintegrates and goes over the falls.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-04-01 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-04-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:Some of them have built reputations on their ability to endure. We have
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have pinpointed the reason it
ran aground. It's made out of concrete - that seems like a serious problem - but
I don't know a thing about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about
top of the water seems unholy.
Yet millions of pieces of wood, leaves, and insects manage it quite
naturally.
a local landmark that may last another 100 years or it may slip away in
the near future. A little over 100 years ago a steel scow was being used
to dredge sand and rock from the upper Niagara River. It ran aground
about a half mile from the edge of the falls. There was a gallant effort
to rescue the two men on board. The scow has become famous.
A couple years ago we had record high water levels and high winds that
increased the depth of the river and the power of the current and it
dislodged the scow from the spot were it had been sitting for a hundred
years and pushed it about 50 yards closer to the falls. Over the past 5
years or so there have been a few pieces breaking off and perhaps going
over the falls. It is just a matter of time before that old craft
disintegrates and goes over the falls.
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
On 4/2/2026 1:03 AM, dsi1 wrote:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
The falls are beautiful. When I was a kid we went to the Canadian side
to visit a Scottish relative (a cousin, perhaps) of my maternal grandmother. After that we took a ride on the Maid of the Mist around
the base of the falls and got soaking wet despite the rain slickers. We also visited Madame Taussauds Wax Museum and Ripley's Believe It or Not "museum". Bought fish & chips from a street vendor served in wrapped newspaper (I don't think they do that anymore). The fish & chips were delicious!
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
[...] tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Hawaii is the biggest tourist trap
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-04-01 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-04-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:Some of them have built reputations on their ability to endure. We have
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have pinpointed the reason it
ran aground. It's made out of concrete - that seems like a serious problem - but
I don't know a thing about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about
top of the water seems unholy.
Yet millions of pieces of wood, leaves, and insects manage it quite
naturally.
a local landmark that may last another 100 years or it may slip away in
the near future. A little over 100 years ago a steel scow was being used
to dredge sand and rock from the upper Niagara River. It ran aground
about a half mile from the edge of the falls. There was a gallant effort
to rescue the two men on board. The scow has become famous.
A couple years ago we had record high water levels and high winds that
increased the depth of the river and the power of the current and it
dislodged the scow from the spot were it had been sitting for a hundred
years and pushed it about 50 yards closer to the falls. Over the past 5
years or so there have been a few pieces breaking off and perhaps going
over the falls. It is just a matter of time before that old craft
disintegrates and goes over the falls.
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YlpQZ--4L8
On 4/2/2026 1:03 AM, dsi1 wrote:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
The falls are beautiful. When I was a kid we went to the Canadian side
to visit a Scottish relative (a cousin, perhaps) of my maternal
grandmother.
After that we took a ride on the Maid of the Mist around
the base of the falls and got soaking wet despite the rain slickers.
On 2026-03-31 9:44 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-03-31, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Teaching Morse code and semaphore in the woods sounds like a waste of nature.
That should be taught in a class room. Congrats on being late for everything.
it has a low and high settings. It also has a third setting that flashes SOS.
That's crazy - or is it?
Dad knew Morse code. He spent time as the radio operator on the SS
Sapona. I'm not sure if he was the radio operator when it ran aground,
in Bimini, in 1926.
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are we going
to get transporters for real?
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have pinpointed the reason it
ran aground. It's made out of concrete - that seems like a serious problem - but
I don't know a thing about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about
top of the water seems unholy. As I recall, Jesus choose to walk on the water. He
probably would have refused to walk on water if his sandals were made of concrete.
There have been lots of ships made of concrete. They have also made a
lot of yachts with it. It is a cheap alternative to steel or wood.
On 2026-04-02, Hank Rogers wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
Niagara [...] falls.
[...] tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Hawaii is the biggest tourist trap
I would say Las Vegas is a pretty good contender,
but must admit never having visited Hawaii.
It seems to me that David #2 has related that Las Vegas
is one of the primary destinations for Hawaiian visitors
to the North American 'mainland'.
I wonder what the connection is?
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T shirt stalls, trinkets, and just general junk. The smart thing to do is visit
the site then decide if you want to buy a souvenir or get on the Ferris wheel, bumper cars, throw at balanced bottles to win a teddy bear,
etc.
On 02 Apr 2026 14:25:18 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
On 2026-04-02, Hank Rogers wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
Niagara [...] falls.
[...] tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Hawaii is the biggest tourist trap
I would say Las Vegas is a pretty good contender,
but must admit never having visited Hawaii.
It seems to me that David #2 has related that Las Vegas
is one of the primary destinations for Hawaiian visitors
to the North American 'mainland'.
I wonder what the connection is?
No taste.
Bruce wrote on 4/2/2026 12:55 PM:
On 02 Apr 2026 14:25:18 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
On 2026-04-02, Hank Rogers wrote:
Hawaii is the biggest tourist trap
I would say Las Vegas is a pretty good contender,
but must admit never having visited Hawaii.
It seems to me that David #2 has related that Las Vegas
is one of the primary destinations for Hawaiian visitors
to the North American 'mainland'.
I wonder what the connection is?
No taste.
Sex, drugs, free alcohol and gambling are also common attractions to
these shit-holes, Master.
Da Hiwayans love dat shit!
Even Uncle Tojo.
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:52:18 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Bruce wrote on 4/2/2026 12:55 PM:
On 02 Apr 2026 14:25:18 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
On 2026-04-02, Hank Rogers wrote:
Hawaii is the biggest tourist trap
I would say Las Vegas is a pretty good contender,
but must admit never having visited Hawaii.
It seems to me that David #2 has related that Las Vegas
is one of the primary destinations for Hawaiian visitors
to the North American 'mainland'.
I wonder what the connection is?
No taste.
Sex, drugs, free alcohol and gambling are also common attractions to
these shit-holes, Master.
Da Hiwayans love dat shit!
Even Uncle Tojo.
I saw a documentary about Las Vegas. People living in underground
tunnels and a large number of post-gambling suicides in motel rooms.
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T
shirt
stalls, trinkets, and just general junk. The smart thing to do is visit
the site then decide if you want to buy a souvenir or get on the Ferris
wheel, bumper cars, throw at balanced bottles to win a teddy bear,
etc.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the tourist traps was Salem Mass. He went there because of family history.
His mother's great great......<?>... grandfather arrived at the Massachusetts colony shortly after it was founded and he had lived in
Salem for a while.
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T shirt stalls, trinkets, and just general junk.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the tourist traps was Salem Mass.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T shirt >>> stalls, trinkets, and just general junk.
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the
tourist traps was Salem Mass.
First time going to the Grand Canyon and coming out of Flagstaff we stopped at some wide spot in the road that had a gas station, convenience store, etc. I spotted an old Latino or local Indian with a saddled Brahma bull tied up. He was making cash letting tourists sit on the bull and have their picture taken. It flitted across my mind for a brief second, but I thought better
of it and we drove off.
~
On 1 Apr 2026 00:28:45 GMT
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are we
going to get transporters for real?
well yeah but...
https://youtu.be/iBfCpldPSk4
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T
shirt
stalls, trinkets, and just general junk. The smart thing to do is visit
the site then decide if you want to buy a souvenir or get on the Ferris
wheel, bumper cars, throw at balanced bottles to win a teddy bear,
etc.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the tourist traps was Salem Mass. He went there because of family history.
His mother's great great......<?>... grandfather arrived at the Massachusetts colony shortly after it was founded and he had lived in
Salem for a while.
On 4/2/2026 5:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T
shirt
stalls, trinkets, and just general junk. The smart thing to do is visit >>> the site then decide if you want to buy a souvenir or get on the Ferris
wheel, bumper cars, throw at balanced bottles to win a teddy bear,
etc.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about
the tourist traps was Salem Mass. He went there because of family
history. His mother's great great......<?>... grandfather arrived at
the Massachusetts colony shortly after it was founded and he had lived
in Salem for a while.
From what I gather from reading, Salem, MA tries too hard to sell the "witch trials" thing. There is a lot more history there.
On 4/2/2026 5:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T
shirt
stalls, trinkets, and just general junk. The smart thing to do is visit >>> the site then decide if you want to buy a souvenir or get on the Ferris
wheel, bumper cars, throw at balanced bottles to win a teddy bear,
etc.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about
the tourist traps was Salem Mass. He went there because of family
history. His mother's great great......<?>... grandfather arrived at
the Massachusetts colony shortly after it was founded and he had lived
in Salem for a while.
From what I gather from reading, Salem, MA tries too hard to sell the "witch trials" thing. There is a lot more history there.
On 4/2/2026 5:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive.
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T
shirt
stalls, trinkets, and just general junk. The smart thing to do is visit >>> the site then decide if you want to buy a souvenir or get on the Ferris
wheel, bumper cars, throw at balanced bottles to win a teddy bear,
etc.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the >> tourist traps was Salem Mass. He went there because of family history.
His mother's great great......<?>... grandfather arrived at the
Massachusetts colony shortly after it was founded and he had lived in
Salem for a while.
From what I gather from reading, Salem, MA tries too hard to sell the
"witch trials" thing. There is a lot more history there.
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 21:26:51 -0400, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
On 4/2/2026 5:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive. >>>>
shirt
stalls, trinkets, and just general junk. The smart thing to do is visit >>>> the site then decide if you want to buy a souvenir or get on the Ferris >>>> wheel, bumper cars, throw at balanced bottles to win a teddy bear,
etc.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the >>> tourist traps was Salem Mass. He went there because of family history. >>> His mother's great great......<?>... grandfather arrived at the
Massachusetts colony shortly after it was founded and he had lived in
Salem for a while.
From what I gather from reading, Salem, MA tries too hard to sell the
"witch trials" thing. There is a lot more history there.
"Ergot-contaminated rye." Has anybody ever checked if Trump supporters
eat a lot of rye? Joan, Leo and Adolf, do youse eat a lot of rye?
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:52:18 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Bruce wrote on 4/2/2026 12:55 PM:
On 02 Apr 2026 14:25:18 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
On 2026-04-02, Hank Rogers wrote:
Hawaii is the biggest tourist trap
I would say Las Vegas is a pretty good contender,
but must admit never having visited Hawaii.
It seems to me that David #2 has related that Las Vegas
is one of the primary destinations for Hawaiian visitors
to the North American 'mainland'.
I wonder what the connection is?
No taste.
Sex, drugs, free alcohol and gambling are also common attractions to
these shit-holes, Master.
Da Hiwayans love dat shit!
Even Uncle Tojo.
I saw a documentary about Las Vegas. People living in underground
tunnels and a large number of post-gambling suicides in motel rooms.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:52:18 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Sex, drugs, free alcohol and gambling are also common attractions to
these shit-holes, Master.
Da Hiwayans love dat shit!
Even Uncle Tojo.
I saw a documentary about Las Vegas. People living in underground
tunnels and a large number of post-gambling suicides in motel rooms.
Suicide motels? Good idea. You sign over your car and surrender your keys. >There's no charge for the room, which is covered in plastic. Coroner on staff.
My brother and step-mom are in LV at the moment. Even a Swede can love the place!
She's sold her condo to my brother and is packing to move back to Sweden. Hopefully,
we can switch LV/Hawaii with my brother for short periods. I think 3 to 5 days
would more than suffice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VmU8NqGEA2JNPHdF6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wD44aCupinsP9UN99
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu85S3uwixBATZW89
On 4/2/2026 9:26 PM, jmquown wrote:
On 4/2/2026 5:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
I'd like to see Niagara Falls but tourist traps are kind of repulsive. >>>>
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T
shirt
stalls, trinkets, and just general junk. The smart thing to do is
visit
the site then decide if you want to buy a souvenir or get on the Ferris >>>> wheel, bumper cars, throw at balanced bottles to win a teddy bear,
etc.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about
the tourist traps was Salem Mass. He went there because of family
history. His mother's great great......<?>... grandfather arrived at
the Massachusetts colony shortly after it was founded and he had
lived in Salem for a while.
From what I gather from reading, Salem, MA tries too hard to sell the
"witch trials" thing. There is a lot more history there.
Strange history = much money. We spent a bit of time there years ago.
Don't go on Halloween though, much traffic as the tourists flock in.
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 07:52:04 GMT, dsi1roner on staff.
My brother and step-mom are in LV at the moment. Even a Swede can love the place!
She's sold her condo to my brother and is packing to move back to Sweden. Hopefully,
we can switch LV/Hawaii with my brother for short periods. I think 3 to 5 days
would more than suffice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VmU8NqGEA2JNPHdF6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wD44aCupinsP9UN99
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu85S3uwixBATZW89
Would you go for the gambling? Is that the attraction?
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 07:52:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:52:18 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Sex, drugs, free alcohol and gambling are also common attractions to
these shit-holes, Master.
Da Hiwayans love dat shit!
Even Uncle Tojo.
I saw a documentary about Las Vegas. People living in underground
tunnels and a large number of post-gambling suicides in motel rooms.
Suicide motels? Good idea. You sign over your car and surrender your keys. >There's no charge for the room, which is covered in plastic. Coroner on staff.
My brother and step-mom are in LV at the moment. Even a Swede can love the place!
She's sold her condo to my brother and is packing to move back to Sweden. Hopefully,
we can switch LV/Hawaii with my brother for short periods. I think 3 to 5 days
would more than suffice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VmU8NqGEA2JNPHdF6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wD44aCupinsP9UN99
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu85S3uwixBATZW89
Would you go for the gambling? Is that the attraction?
I did gamble though. I'd save up [...] $20.
On 4/3/2026 4:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
I did gamble though. I'd save up enough to have a good time and not have
to worry about the inevitable loss. Over the time there I'd go through
the entire $20 allocated to it.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 07:52:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:52:18 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Sex, drugs, free alcohol and gambling are also common attractions to >>>>> these shit-holes, Master.
Da Hiwayans love dat shit!
Even Uncle Tojo.
I saw a documentary about Las Vegas. People living in underground
tunnels and a large number of post-gambling suicides in motel rooms.
Suicide motels? Good idea. You sign over your car and surrender your keys. >>> There's no charge for the room, which is covered in plastic. Coroner on staff.
My brother and step-mom are in LV at the moment. Even a Swede can love the place!
She's sold her condo to my brother and is packing to move back to Sweden. Hopefully,
we can switch LV/Hawaii with my brother for short periods. I think 3 to 5 days
would more than suffice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VmU8NqGEA2JNPHdF6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wD44aCupinsP9UN99
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu85S3uwixBATZW89
Would you go for the gambling? Is that the attraction?
Da Hawaiians love gambling. They know the odds are against them and they take a
disciplined approach i.e., they set limits on how much they can lose and stick
with it. A lot of people will go to LV several times a year. This is probably normal for people that live on a tiny rock.
I'm not interested in gambling. We did go there to see the something new. The next time we get there it'll be to see the housing market and the lifestyle and,
of course, the food.
On 2026-04-03, Ed P wrote:
I did gamble though. I'd save up [...] $20.
I came out ahead in LV. I had sort of decided, like
yourself, to put a strict limit on how much to spend.
But I was much cheaper than you. I decided it was
worth 25 cents in one of the little machines they
had within reach at the barstool to see what all
the hoopla was about.
Miraculously(?), it paid off and enough quarters
came out to overflow some onto the floor.
I turned to the guy on the next stool and said:
"That was the first time I ever gambled in my life!".
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 4/2/2026 7:38 PM:
First time going to the Grand Canyon and coming out of Flagstaff we stopped at some wide spot in the road that had a gas station, convenience store, etc.
I spotted an old Latino or local Indian with a saddled Brahma bull tied up. He was making cash letting tourists sit on the bull and have their picture taken. It flitted across my mind for a brief second, but I thought better of it and we drove off.
LOL. 50 years ago, that was pretty common in rural arizona.
Everybody and his brother had wonderful shit you could pay to see or do, even hundreds of miles from civilization.
On 4/3/2026 4:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 07:52:04 GMT, dsi1roner on staff.
My brother and step-mom are in LV at the moment. Even a Swede can love the place!
She's sold her condo to my brother and is packing to move back to Sweden. Hopefully,
we can switch LV/Hawaii with my brother for short periods. I think 3 to 5 days
would more than suffice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VmU8NqGEA2JNPHdF6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wD44aCupinsP9UN99
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu85S3uwixBATZW89
Would you go for the gambling? Is that the attraction?
Gambling is a huge attraction, but there are plenty of good shows and
food too.
We used to go for an industry conference once a year. The meeting was
about three hours, but we'd spend four days. In my case, the company
owners would play golf three of the days and we'd see a show a couple of >nights. I'd take the ladies out for the day visiting the deseret,
Hoover Dam, etc.
I did gamble though. I'd save up enough to have a good time and not have
to worry about the inevitable loss. Over the time there I'd go through
the entire $20 allocated to it.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
Would you go for the gambling? Is that the attraction?
Da Hawaiians love gambling. They know the odds are against them and they take a
disciplined approach i.e., they set limits on how much they can lose and stick
with it. A lot of people will go to LV several times a year. This is probably >normal for people that live on a tiny rock.
I'm not interested in gambling. We did go there to see the something new. The >next time we get there it'll be to see the housing market and the lifestyle and,
of course, the food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trgcUfkQ2ps
On 2026-04-03 9:46 a.m., Ed P wrote:
On 4/3/2026 4:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
I did gamble though. I'd save up enough to have a good time and not have
to worry about the inevitable loss. Over the time there I'd go through
the entire $20 allocated to it.
You gotta love the way people gamble for entertainment. People who
won't go out for an expensive dinner or a night at the theater will head
off to a casino with a minimum $100 sometimes hundreds and pull on a
lever until it's all gone and consider it an evening of entertainment.
Some just lose lose lose until it's gone.
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 09:46:50 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
Gambling is a huge attraction, but there are plenty of good shows and
food too.
Britney Spears, Pat Boone? To me it all looks fake and the last place
I'd want to see if I went to the US.
On 4/3/2026 1:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 09:46:50 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
Gambling is a huge attraction, but there are plenty of good shows and
food too.
Britney Spears, Pat Boone? To me it all looks fake and the last place
I'd want to see if I went to the US.
I'd pass on them. Righteous Brothers were very good. Cirque du Soleil
needs a venue like Vegas can supply.
On 2026-04-01, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2026 00:28:45 GMT
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are we
going to get transporters for real?
well yeah but...
https://youtu.be/iBfCpldPSk4
I wasn't aware of "Fusion" but I did see "The Fly", at the theater,As tragic an end as:
when it first came out. 😐
On 4/3/2026 1:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 09:46:50 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
Gambling is a huge attraction, but there are plenty of good shows
and food too.
Britney Spears, Pat Boone? To me it all looks fake and the last
place I'd want to see if I went to the US.
I'd pass on them. Righteous Brothers were very good. Cirque du
Soleil needs a venue like Vegas can supply.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 07:52:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:52:18 -0500, Hank Rogers
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Sex, drugs, free alcohol and gambling are also common
attractions to these shit-holes, Master.
Da Hiwayans love dat shit!
Even Uncle Tojo.
I saw a documentary about Las Vegas. People living in underground
tunnels and a large number of post-gambling suicides in motel
rooms.
Suicide motels? Good idea. You sign over your car and surrender
your keys. There's no charge for the room, which is covered in
plastic. Coroner on staff.
My brother and step-mom are in LV at the moment. Even a Swede can
love the place! She's sold her condo to my brother and is packing
to move back to Sweden. Hopefully, we can switch LV/Hawaii with my >brother for short periods. I think 3 to 5 days would more than
suffice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VmU8NqGEA2JNPHdF6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wD44aCupinsP9UN99
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu85S3uwixBATZW89
Would you go for the gambling? Is that the attraction?
Da Hawaiians love gambling. They know the odds are against them and
they take a disciplined approach i.e., they set limits on how much
they can lose and stick with it. A lot of people will go to LV
several times a year. This is probably normal for people that live on
a tiny rock.
I'm not interested in gambling. We did go there to see the something
new. The next time we get there it'll be to see the housing market
and the lifestyle and, of course, the food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trgcUfkQ2ps
It's the worst western
civilisation has to offer.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all
the T shirt stalls, trinkets, and just general junk.
he sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained
about the tourist traps was Salem Mass.
First time going to the Grand Canyon and coming out of Flagstaff we
stopped at some wide spot in the road that had a gas station,
convenience store, etc. I spotted an old Latino or local Indian with
a saddled Brahma bull tied up. He was making cash letting tourists
sit on the bull and have their picture taken. It flitted across my
mind for a brief second, but I thought better of it and we drove off.
~
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-03-31 9:44 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-03-31, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Teaching Morse code and semaphore in the woods sounds like a
waste of nature. That should be taught in a class room.
Congrats on being late for everything. it has a low and high
settings. It also has a third setting that flashes SOS. That's
crazy - or is it?
Dad knew Morse code. He spent time as the radio operator on the
SS Sapona. I'm not sure if he was the radio operator when it ran
aground, in Bimini, in 1926.
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are we
going to get transporters for real?
I have been reading about the SS Sapona and think I have
pinpointed the reason it ran aground. It's made out of concrete -
that seems like a serious problem - but I don't know a thing
about shipbuilding or boats. The whole idea of moving about top
of the water seems unholy. As I recall, Jesus choose to walk on
the water. He probably would have refused to walk on water if his
sandals were made of concrete.
From this:There have been lots of ships made of concrete. They have also made
a lot of yachts with it. It is a cheap alternative to steel or wood.
We went to the pier yesterday. They were filming a Netflix series
there. My wife went to get a snack for the kids at the store at the
end of the pier. Some guy yelled "Quite on the set!" My granddaughter
was yelling like she usually does. A guy asks my wife "What are you
doing here?" She said "We're getting a snack."
"It's all closed. You want some food? We got some food you can have."
Unfortunately, my granddaughters said "No thank you, we're okay."
Those kids just blew our chance to get some real Hollywood food!
Anyway, I saw an unusual boat at the pier. It was a double hulled
boat that was held together with rope. The original Hawaiians used
this type of boats to traverse the Pacific. This one was a cute
miniature version of the real thing. This type of construction is
used in the facade of a hotel and gives it quite a distinctive look.
As shown in the picture, the ancient Hawaiians didn't use any
concrete. They were pioneers in the use of fiberglass to make the
hulls of their canoes.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XGXtGUkLELzMH8Zy6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1nQWwj92WwRMYg1o8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6Xhvhr9uEisfZNAH7
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T shirt
stalls, trinkets, and just general junk.
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the tourist traps was Salem Mass.
First time going to the Grand Canyon and coming out of Flagstaff we stopped at some wide spot in the road that had a gas station, convenience store, etc. I spotted an old Latino or local Indian with a saddled Brahma bull tied up. He was making cash letting tourists sit on the bull and have their picture taken. It flitted across my mind for a brief second, but I thought better
of it and we drove off.
~
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T shirt >>>> stalls, trinkets, and just general junk.
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the >>> tourist traps was Salem Mass.
First time going to the Grand Canyon and coming out of Flagstaff we stopped >> at some wide spot in the road that had a gas station, convenience store, etc.
I spotted an old Latino or local Indian with a saddled Brahma bull tied up. >> He was making cash letting tourists sit on the bull and have their picture >> taken. It flitted across my mind for a brief second, but I thought better >> of it and we drove off.
~
I'd go for that - it sounds like a great idea. Hopefully, the size of the bull
meets my expectations. I was greatly disappointed with the size of the Hoover Dam. It looked a lot bigger on TV.
On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 05:52:54 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
It's the worst western
civilisation has to offer.
No, that would be Atlantic city.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all
the T shirt stalls, trinkets, and just general junk.
he sees the important sites like museums, galleries and
historical buildings. The only place he has returned from and
complained about the tourist traps was Salem Mass.
First time going to the Grand Canyon and coming out of Flagstaff we
stopped at some wide spot in the road that had a gas station,
convenience store, etc. I spotted an old Latino or local Indian
with a saddled Brahma bull tied up. He was making cash letting
tourists sit on the bull and have their picture taken. It flitted
across my mind for a brief second, but I thought better of it and
we drove off.
~
I'd go for that - it sounds like a great idea. Hopefully, the size of
the bull meets my expectations. I was greatly disappointed with the
size of the Hoover Dam. It looked a lot bigger on TV.
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 14:54:39 -0600, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 05:52:54 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
It's the worst western
civilisation has to offer.
No, that would be Atlantic city.
All I know about that is that Trump managed to let casinos go bankrupt
there. Or something like that.
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:27:52 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 07:52:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:52:18 -0500, Hank Rogers
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Sex, drugs, free alcohol and gambling are also common
attractions to these shit-holes, Master.
Da Hiwayans love dat shit!
Even Uncle Tojo.
I saw a documentary about Las Vegas. People living in underground
tunnels and a large number of post-gambling suicides in motel
rooms.
Suicide motels? Good idea. You sign over your car and surrender
your keys. There's no charge for the room, which is covered in
plastic. Coroner on staff.
My brother and step-mom are in LV at the moment. Even a Swede can
love the place! She's sold her condo to my brother and is packing
to move back to Sweden. Hopefully, we can switch LV/Hawaii with my >brother for short periods. I think 3 to 5 days would more than
suffice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VmU8NqGEA2JNPHdF6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wD44aCupinsP9UN99
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu85S3uwixBATZW89
Would you go for the gambling? Is that the attraction?
Da Hawaiians love gambling. They know the odds are against them and
they take a disciplined approach i.e., they set limits on how much
they can lose and stick with it. A lot of people will go to LV
several times a year. This is probably normal for people that live on
a tiny rock.
I'm not interested in gambling. We did go there to see the something
new. The next time we get there it'll be to see the housing market
and the lifestyle and, of course, the food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trgcUfkQ2ps
That 9th island may be dry and done if the drought continues much
longer.
Or not:
https://youtu.be/NlgxYl2NzIc
On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 09:30:40 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 14:54:39 -0600, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:All you know is lies.
On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 05:52:54 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
It's the worst western
civilisation has to offer.
No, that would be Atlantic city.
All I know about that is that Trump managed to let casinos go bankrupt
there. Or something like that.
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four bankruptcies
(1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City properties.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 4/2/2026 7:38 PM:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-04-02 5:01 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
FWIW my son travels a lot and does a lot of research to make sure he
Any tourist spot can become a tourist trap if you fall for all the T shirt >>>> stalls, trinkets, and just general junk.
sees the important sites like museums, galleries and historical
buildings. The only place he has returned from and complained about the >>> tourist traps was Salem Mass.
First time going to the Grand Canyon and coming out of Flagstaff we stopped >> at some wide spot in the road that had a gas station, convenience store, etc.
I spotted an old Latino or local Indian with a saddled Brahma bull tied up. >> He was making cash letting tourists sit on the bull and have their picture >> taken. It flitted across my mind for a brief second, but I thought better >> of it and we drove off.
~
LOL. 50 years ago, that was pretty common in rural arizona.
Everybody and his brother had wonderful shit you could pay to see or do, even hundreds of miles from civilization.
chefly wrote on 4/3/2026 6:59 PM:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 09:30:40 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 14:54:39 -0600, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:All you know is lies.
On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 05:52:54 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
It's the worst western
civilisation has to offer.
No, that would be Atlantic city.
All I know about that is that Trump managed to let casinos go
bankrupt there. Or something like that.
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four bankruptcies
(1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10 years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 19:58:24 -0500
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four bankruptcies
(1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10 years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
Bankruptcy is a legal process for debt resolution, not a "scam".
On 4/4/2026 4:51 PM, chefly wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 19:58:24 -0500
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
BS, it is often used as a scam and intentional. Not every one, but in
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four bankruptcies
(1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10 years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
Bankruptcy is a legal process for debt resolution, not a "scam".
the case of Trump, a lot of contractors suffered beg losses from his games.
https://usw.org/billionaire-trump-fleeces-workers-small-businesses/
Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s casino regulator in the early 1990s during Trump’s time there, told the New York Times, of Trump, “He put a number of local contractors and suppliers out of business when he didn’t pay them. So when he left Atlantic City, it wasn’t, ‘Sorry to see
you go,’ It was, ‘How fast can you get the hell out of here?’”
Beth Rosser’s father was among those unpaid contractors. His company, Triad Building Supplies, nearly collapsed when the Trump Taj Mahal went
into bankruptcy. He waited three years for what Trump owed him and then
got only 30 cents on the dollar.
I've been on lake Oroville when the water levels were alarmingly low. Things didn't look so good. Later on, the water level went alarmingly high. Then the shit hit the fan.
Oroville is named after the gold that's in the region. The funny part is that
the spillway failure washed chunks of gold downstream. Some of the chunks were
quite big. The locals didn't talk about that - after all, they ain't stupid.
On 2026-04-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I've been on lake Oroville when the water levels were alarmingly low. Things
didn't look so good. Later on, the water level went alarmingly high. Then the
shit hit the fan.
Oroville is named after the gold that's in the region. The funny part is that
the spillway failure washed chunks of gold downstream. Some of the chunks were
quite big. The locals didn't talk about that - after all, they ain't stupid.
In the late Eighties or early Nineties, I houseboated on Lake Oroville
for a week. Ask me about Lake Shasta, the Sacramento Delta or Trinity
Lake. I houseboated all those too.
Eventually, we lost our houseboat fever, and it's always good to get out
of California. I was a decent pilot on those easy boats.
You lived in a houseboat in California? Don't only socialists and
other potheads do that?
On 2026-04-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You lived in a houseboat in California? Don't only socialists and
other potheads do that?
No. We just went there on vacation. The socialists and potheads live
there. With a houseboat, you can escape the dystopia and find remote
bays where only a whiff of pot smoke occasionally accosts you.
On 2026-04-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I've been on lake Oroville when the water levels were alarmingly low. Things
didn't look so good. Later on, the water level went alarmingly high. Then the
shit hit the fan.
Oroville is named after the gold that's in the region. The funny part is that
the spillway failure washed chunks of gold downstream. Some of the chunks were
quite big. The locals didn't talk about that - after all, they ain't stupid.
In the late Eighties or early Nineties, I houseboated on Lake Oroville
for a week. Ask me about Lake Shasta, the Sacramento Delta or Trinity
Lake. I houseboated all those too.
Eventually, we lost our houseboat fever, and it's always good to get out
of California. I was a decent pilot on those easy boats.
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-04-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I've been on lake Oroville when the water levels were alarmingly low. Things
didn't look so good. Later on, the water level went alarmingly high. Then the
shit hit the fan.
Oroville is named after the gold that's in the region. The funny part is that
the spillway failure washed chunks of gold downstream. Some of the chunks were
quite big. The locals didn't talk about that - after all, they ain't stupid.
In the late Eighties or early Nineties, I houseboated on Lake Oroville
for a week. Ask me about Lake Shasta, the Sacramento Delta or Trinity
Lake. I houseboated all those too.
Eventually, we lost our houseboat fever, and it's always good to get out
of California. I was a decent pilot on those easy boats.
That's an interesting lifestyle. Do you have to transport your house on a trailer or do you rent the houseboat? It seems like living in a trailer except
there's an earthquake happening 24/7. My daughter gave me a ride in Lake Oroville
on a jet ski. She was going to a high school in Oroville at the time. She went
balls out on that thing, damn.
On 2026-04-03, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I've been on lake Oroville when the water levels were alarmingly
low. Things didn't look so good. Later on, the water level went
alarmingly high. Then the shit hit the fan.
Oroville is named after the gold that's in the region. The funny
part is that the spillway failure washed chunks of gold downstream.
Some of the chunks were quite big. The locals didn't talk about
that - after all, they ain't stupid.
In the late Eighties or early Nineties, I houseboated on Lake Oroville
for a week. Ask me about Lake Shasta, the Sacramento Delta or Trinity
Lake. I houseboated all those too.
Eventually, we lost our houseboat fever, and it's always good to get
out of California. I was a decent pilot on those easy boats.
On 4/4/2026 4:51 PM, chefly wrote:You mean like anchor baby "birthright" citizenship is?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 19:58:24 -0500
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four bankruptcies
(1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10
years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
Bankruptcy is a legal process for debt resolution, not a "scam".BS, it is often used as a scam and intentional.
Not every one, butIn bankruptcy there are secured and non-secured creditors, this is
in the case of Trump, a lot of contractors suffered beg losses from
his games.
https://usw.org/billionaire-trump-fleeces-workers-small-businesses/He also lost millions of his own prior to the conclusive sequence, so
Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s casino regulator in the early 1990s during Trump’s time there, told the New York Times, of Trump,
“He put a number of local contractors and suppliers out of business
when he didn’t pay them. So when he left Atlantic City, it wasn’t, ‘Sorry to see you go,’ It was, ‘How fast can you get the hell out of here?’”
Beth Rosser’s father was among those unpaid contractors. His company, Triad Building Supplies, nearly collapsed when the Trump Taj MahalYet somehow you see this as an only Trump phenomenon, you single-minded
went into bankruptcy. He waited three years for what Trump owed him
and then got only 30 cents on the dollar.
On 2026-04-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You lived in a houseboat in California? Don't only socialists and
other potheads do that?
No. We just went there on vacation. The socialists and potheads live
there. With a houseboat, you can escape the dystopia and find remote
bays where only a whiff of pot smoke occasionally accosts you.
On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 17:55:34 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/4/2026 4:51 PM, chefly wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 19:58:24 -0500BS, it is often used as a scam and intentional.
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four bankruptcies
(1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10
years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
Bankruptcy is a legal process for debt resolution, not a "scam".
You mean like anchor baby "birthright" citizenship is?
So?
Many aspects of our economic system can be managed to an outcome not initially intended.
Just like non-citizen voting has been.
Not every one, but
in the case of Trump, a lot of contractors suffered beg losses from
his games.
In bankruptcy there are secured and non-secured creditors, this is
known long before Trump.
https://usw.org/billionaire-trump-fleeces-workers-small-businesses/
Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s casino regulator in the early
1990s during Trump’s time there, told the New York Times, of Trump,
“He put a number of local contractors and suppliers out of business
when he didn’t pay them. So when he left Atlantic City, it wasn’t,
‘Sorry to see you go,’ It was, ‘How fast can you get the hell out of >> here?’”
He also lost millions of his own prior to the conclusive sequence, so
there's that.
Beth Rosser’s father was among those unpaid contractors. His company,
Triad Building Supplies, nearly collapsed when the Trump Taj Mahal
went into bankruptcy. He waited three years for what Trump owed him
and then got only 30 cents on the dollar.
Yet somehow you see this as an only Trump phenomenon, you single-minded
TDS dolthead.
On 3 Apr 2026 01:05:45 GMT
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-04-01, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2026 00:28:45 GMT
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are we
going to get transporters for real?
well yeah but...
https://youtu.be/iBfCpldPSk4
I wasn't aware of "Fusion" but I did see "The Fly", at the theater,
when it first came out. 😐
As tragic an end as:
https://youtu.be/Up6g0SDMJ7A
On 4/5/2026 1:34 PM, chefly wrote:If so I'd have invoked ME!
On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 17:55:34 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/4/2026 4:51 PM, chefly wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 19:58:24 -0500
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
BS, it is often used as a scam and intentional.
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four
bankruptcies (1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City
properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10
years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
Bankruptcy is a legal process for debt resolution, not a "scam".
You mean like anchor baby "birthright" citizenship is?
So?
Many aspects of our economic system can be managed to an outcome not initially intended.
Just like non-citizen voting has been.
Not every one, but
in the case of Trump, a lot of contractors suffered beg losses from
his games.
In bankruptcy there are secured and non-secured creditors, this is
known long before Trump.
https://usw.org/billionaire-trump-fleeces-workers-small-businesses/
Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s casino regulator in the
early 1990s during Trump’s time there, told the New York Times, of
Trump, “He put a number of local contractors and suppliers out of
business when he didn’t pay them. So when he left Atlantic City,
it wasn’t, ‘Sorry to see you go,’ It was, ‘How fast can you get
the hell out of here?’”
He also lost millions of his own prior to the conclusive sequence,
so there's that.
Beth Rosser’s father was among those unpaid contractors. His
company, Triad Building Supplies, nearly collapsed when the Trump
Taj Mahal went into bankruptcy. He waited three years for what
Trump owed him and then got only 30 cents on the dollar.
Yet somehow you see this as an only Trump phenomenon, you
single-minded TDS dolthead.
As usual, you make it all about YOU.
Trump is only one of the peopleIndeed so: https://www.abi.org/newsroom/chart-of-the-day/annual-us-total-bankruptcy-filings-1980-2020
that use bankruptcy,
I never said he was the only one.True, but by focusing ONLY on him you inculcated by implication some
To feed your ego, you dragged it into other groups too.To fuel your paranoia again, yes I did.
Just like a baby looking for attention.Transference.
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 15:31:34 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/5/2026 1:34 PM, chefly wrote:
On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 17:55:34 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/4/2026 4:51 PM, chefly wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 19:58:24 -0500
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
BS, it is often used as a scam and intentional.
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four
bankruptcies (1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City
properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10
years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
Bankruptcy is a legal process for debt resolution, not a "scam".
You mean like anchor baby "birthright" citizenship is?
So?
Many aspects of our economic system can be managed to an outcome not
initially intended.
Just like non-citizen voting has been.
Not every one, but
in the case of Trump, a lot of contractors suffered beg losses from
his games.
In bankruptcy there are secured and non-secured creditors, this is
known long before Trump.
https://usw.org/billionaire-trump-fleeces-workers-small-businesses/
Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s casino regulator in the
early 1990s during Trump’s time there, told the New York Times, of
Trump, “He put a number of local contractors and suppliers out of
business when he didn’t pay them. So when he left Atlantic City,
it wasn’t, ‘Sorry to see you go,’ It was, ‘How fast can you get >>>> the hell out of here?’”
He also lost millions of his own prior to the conclusive sequence,
so there's that.
Beth Rosser’s father was among those unpaid contractors. His
company, Triad Building Supplies, nearly collapsed when the Trump
Taj Mahal went into bankruptcy. He waited three years for what
Trump owed him and then got only 30 cents on the dollar.
Yet somehow you see this as an only Trump phenomenon, you
single-minded TDS dolthead.
As usual, you make it all about YOU.
If so I'd have invoked ME!
But we both know //I didn't// and that it isn't.
So that non sequitur is rejected!
Wanna try again for another round of blame-shifting?
Trump is only one of the people
that use bankruptcy,
Indeed so:
https://www.abi.org/newsroom/chart-of-the-day/annual-us-total-bankruptcy-filings-1980-2020
I never said he was the only one.
True, but by focusing ONLY on him you inculcated by implication some
special form of culpability or calumny for what is by statistics a very common business debt relief practice, both in this nation and in NJ.
To feed your ego, you dragged it into other groups too.
To fuel your paranoia again, yes I did.
I like to gig your political intolerance and rage machine accordingly,
and it _always_ works too!
@LOLOLOL@
Just like a baby looking for attention.
Transference.
I replied, but _YOU_ initiated.
See how that works Eddy P?
You drop your TDS bombs here and I gladly let a larger audience
experience your topical and factual humiliation.
It's a wunnerful thang, yes it is!
chefly wrote on 4/5/2026 3:00 PM:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 15:31:34 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/5/2026 1:34 PM, chefly wrote:
On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 17:55:34 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/4/2026 4:51 PM, chefly wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 19:58:24 -0500
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
BS, it is often used as a scam and intentional.
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four
bankruptcies (1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City
properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10
years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
Bankruptcy is a legal process for debt resolution, not a "scam".
You mean like anchor baby "birthright" citizenship is?
So?
Many aspects of our economic system can be managed to an outcome
not initially intended.
Just like non-citizen voting has been.
Not every one, but
in the case of Trump, a lot of contractors suffered beg losses
from his games.
In bankruptcy there are secured and non-secured creditors, this is
known long before Trump.
https://usw.org/billionaire-trump-fleeces-workers-small-businesses/
Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s casino regulator in the
early 1990s during Trump’s time there, told the New York Times,
of Trump, “He put a number of local contractors and suppliers
out of business when he didn’t pay them. So when he left
Atlantic City, it wasn’t, ‘Sorry to see you go,’ It was, ‘How >>>> fast can you get the hell out of here?’”
He also lost millions of his own prior to the conclusive sequence,
so there's that.
Beth Rosser’s father was among those unpaid contractors. His
company, Triad Building Supplies, nearly collapsed when the Trump
Taj Mahal went into bankruptcy. He waited three years for what
Trump owed him and then got only 30 cents on the dollar.
Yet somehow you see this as an only Trump phenomenon, you
single-minded TDS dolthead.
As usual, you make it all about YOU.
If so I'd have invoked ME!
But we both know //I didn't// and that it isn't.
So that non sequitur is rejected!
Wanna try again for another round of blame-shifting?
Trump is only one of the people
that use bankruptcy,
Indeed so:
https://www.abi.org/newsroom/chart-of-the-day/annual-us-total-bankruptcy-filings-1980-2020
I never said he was the only one.
True, but by focusing ONLY on him you inculcated by implication some special form of culpability or calumny for what is by statistics a
very common business debt relief practice, both in this nation and
in NJ.
To feed your ego, you dragged it into other groups too.
To fuel your paranoia again, yes I did.
I like to gig your political intolerance and rage machine
accordingly, and it _always_ works too!
@LOLOLOL@
Just like a baby looking for attention.
Transference.
I replied, but _YOU_ initiated.
See how that works Eddy P?
You drop your TDS bombs here and I gladly let a larger audience
experience your topical and factual humiliation.
It's a wunnerful thang, yes it is!
You should give up on Ed. He's got you pegged exactly.
chefly <deal@me.al> posted:
On 3 Apr 2026 01:05:45 GMT
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-04-01, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2026 00:28:45 GMT
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I really should go there and see the wreck. When the hell are
we going to get transporters for real?
well yeah but...
https://youtu.be/iBfCpldPSk4
I wasn't aware of "Fusion" but I did see "The Fly", at the
theater, when it first came out. 😐
As tragic an end as:
https://youtu.be/Up6g0SDMJ7A
I saw that movie on TV when I was but a child. Adults might find the
ending to be ridiculous but I will vouch for the ending's ability to
mess up a kid's mind. I enjoyed the short story too.
https://www.vocab.today/reader/Advanced/The%20Fly%20And%20Other%20Horror%20Stories.pdf
Ed P wrote on 4/4/2026 4:55 PM:
On 4/4/2026 4:51 PM, chefly wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 19:58:24 -0500BS, it is often used as a scam and intentional. Not every one, but in
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Trump Casinos & Entertainment Resorts: Suffered four bankruptcies
(1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) regarding Atlantic City properties.
Damn, you're right! Hasn't done a bankruptcy scam in over 10 years.
He must be reformed. Praise Jebus!
Bankruptcy is a legal process for debt resolution, not a "scam".
the case of Trump, a lot of contractors suffered beg losses from his games. >>
https://usw.org/billionaire-trump-fleeces-workers-small-businesses/
Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s casino regulator in the early
1990s during Trump’s time there, told the New York Times, of Trump, “He >> put a number of local contractors and suppliers out of business when he
didn’t pay them. So when he left Atlantic City, it wasn’t, ‘Sorry to see
you go,’ It was, ‘How fast can you get the hell out of here?’”
Beth Rosser’s father was among those unpaid contractors. His company,
Triad Building Supplies, nearly collapsed when the Trump Taj Mahal went
into bankruptcy. He waited three years for what Trump owed him and then
got only 30 cents on the dollar.
If you're sniffing around washington DC and you smell shit, you know you
are getting very close to Trump.
My sister says Trump says about Iran, “this morass isn’t funYour sister makes shit up.
anymore, and
That's an interesting lifestyle. Do you have to transport your house on a trailer or do you rent the houseboat? It seems like living in a trailer except
there's an earthquake happening 24/7. My daughter gave me a ride in Lake Oroville
on a jet ski. She was going to a high school in Oroville at the time. She went
balls out on that thing, damn.
How much damned fun was that and how were the campsites or anchorages
from lake to lake?
On Mon, 06 Apr 2026 03:30:46 GMT
marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:
My sister says Trump says about Iran, “this morass isn’t fun
anymore, and
Your sister makes shit up.
It seems to be popular with the Chinese too. There are casinos in
Niagara Falls and there is always a string of buses coming from
Toronto's Chinatown. That is literally where the buses depart from. I
hear horror stories about their behaviour in the casino. I don't know
how true they are. I walked through the casino once with a friend and I
was struck by the number of depressed looking people I saw in there.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
It seems to be popular with the Chinese too. There are casinos in
Niagara Falls and there is always a string of buses coming from
Toronto's Chinatown. That is literally where the buses depart from. I
hear horror stories about their behaviour in the casino. I don't know
how true they are. I walked through the casino once with a friend and I
was struck by the number of depressed looking people I saw in there.
The Chinese are great believers in luck and they like to gamble. The Japanese are fatalistic and believe more in fate - they like to gamble too. I guess you
could say that everybody loves to gamble.
On 2026-04-07, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
It seems to be popular with the Chinese too. There are casinos in
Niagara Falls and there is always a string of buses coming from
Toronto's Chinatown. That is literally where the buses depart from. I
hear horror stories about their behaviour in the casino. I don't know
how true they are. I walked through the casino once with a friend and I >>> was struck by the number of depressed looking people I saw in there.
The Chinese are great believers in luck and they like to gamble. The Japanese
are fatalistic and believe more in fate - they like to gamble too. I guess you
could say that everybody loves to gamble.
Where "everybody" isn't actually everybody.
AGA [American Gambling Association] research shows that more than
half of all American adults (57%) participated in some form of gambling
in the past year. More than a quarter of adults (30%) gambled at a
physical casino in the past year, while 21% placed a sports bet.
On 2026-04-05, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
How much damned fun was that and how were the campsites or anchorages
from lake to lake?
Anchorage was always different and alone. We camped on the boat. The Sacramento Delta was strange. We had to get used to tides. What the...?
On 2026-04-06 11:39 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-04-05, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
How much damned fun was that and how were the campsites or anchorages
from lake to lake?
Anchorage was always different and alone. We camped on the boat. The
Sacramento Delta was strange. We had to get used to tides. What the...?
Tides were a concern when we went kayaking at Tybee Island. I knew we would have to deal with them but I was not prepared for the strength of them. One day we had to fight the strong down stream current to get
across the river. We beached our boats on an island and went exploring.
When we went back to the boats they were a long way from the shore and
there was only a small channel to paddle through. Then the tide came
back in and it was a tough paddle to get back because of the upstream current.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
It seems to be popular with the Chinese too. There are casinos in
Niagara Falls and there is always a string of buses coming from
Toronto's Chinatown. That is literally where the buses depart from. I
hear horror stories about their behaviour in the casino. I don't know
how true they are. I walked through the casino once with a friend and I was struck by the number of depressed looking people I saw in there.
The Chinese are great believers in luck and they like to gamble. The Japanese are fatalistic and believe more in fate - they like to gamble too. I guess you
could say that everybody loves to gamble.
Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, he
knows everything about them!
On 2026-04-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
That's an interesting lifestyle. Do you have to transport your
house on a trailer or do you rent the houseboat? It seems like
living in a trailer except there's an earthquake happening 24/7. My daughter gave me a ride in Lake Oroville on a jet ski. She was
going to a high school in Oroville at the time. She went balls out
on that thing, damn.
Those years weren't lifestyle, they were vacations. ISTR that
houseboats would easily accommodate at least eight adults. That's
four pairs splitting expenses. That made the trips affordable.
I'm going to google right now. Damn! The price is way up. OTOH, money
is way more valueless now. Soon, millionaires will live in subsidized housing, just as predicted during the Carter administration, when it
was forecast that our children would light their cigars with hundred
dollar bills.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
It seems to be popular with the Chinese too. There are casinos in
Niagara Falls and there is always a string of buses coming from
Toronto's Chinatown. That is literally where the buses depart from.
I hear horror stories about their behaviour in the casino. I don't
know how true they are. I walked through the casino once with a
friend and I was struck by the number of depressed looking people I
saw in there.
The Chinese are great believers in luck and they like to gamble. The
Japanese are fatalistic and believe more in fate - they like to
gamble too. I guess you could say that everybody loves to gamble.
On 2026-04-05, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
How much damned fun was that and how were the campsites or
anchorages from lake to lake?
Anchorage was always different and alone. We camped on the boat. The Sacramento Delta was strange. We had to get used to tides. What
the...?
I guess youFuck all hammy, enough with the semantic niggles.
could say that everybody loves to gamble.
Where "everybody" isn't actually everybody.
AGA [American Gambling Association] research shows that more than
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
It seems to be popular with the Chinese too. There are casinos
in Niagara Falls and there is always a string of buses coming
from Toronto's Chinatown. That is literally where the buses
depart from. I hear horror stories about their behaviour in the
casino. I don't know how true they are. I walked through the
casino once with a friend and I was struck by the number of
depressed looking people I saw in there.
The Chinese are great believers in luck and they like to gamble.
The Japanese are fatalistic and believe more in fate - they like to
gamble too. I guess you could say that everybody loves to gamble.
When the MGM Grand was built in Las Vegas it had a large lion you
walked through its' mouth on one of entrances. The Chinese gamblers
would not enter there as they believed it to be bad luck and it was
removed.
https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXxKnn/MGM-Lion.jpg
~
On 2026-04-05, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
How much damned fun was that and how were the campsites or anchorages
from lake to lake?
Anchorage was always different and alone. We camped on the boat. The Sacramento Delta was strange. We had to get used to tides. What the...?
On 2026-04-06 11:39 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:I've collected rock samples along the shore there and if
On 2026-04-05, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
How much damned fun was that and how were the campsites or anchorages
from lake to lake?
Anchorage was always different and alone. We camped on the boat. The
Sacramento Delta was strange. We had to get used to tides. What the...?
If you want to see incredible tides head over to the Bay of Fundy where
tide is about 50 feet. If you are there at high tide everything looks
quite normal. A couple hours later when the tide is our there is nothing
by sand and mud. The water is completely gone. A couple hours later it
is on is way back in. If you are next to the rocky shore, a dock or pier
you can watch as is rises. You don't need to note a mark or feature and compare it a couple minutes later. You can actually watch it rising.
It's amazing.
On 2026-04-07 11:31 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
If you want to see incredible tides head over to the Bay of FundyI've collected rock samples along the shore there and if
where tide is about 50 feet. If you are there at high tide everything
looks quite normal. A couple hours later when the tide is our there is
nothing by sand and mud. The water is completely gone. A couple hours
later it is on is way back in. If you are next to the rocky shore, a
dock or pier you can watch as is rises. You don't need to note a mark
or feature and compare it a couple minutes later. You can actually
watch it rising. It's amazing.
one does any geological fieldwork, knowledge of the tides
is essential. Even knowing the times, you must keep an eye
on the water.
On 4/7/2026 9:28 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-04-06 11:39 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-04-05, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
How much damned fun was that and how were the campsites or anchorages
from lake to lake?
Anchorage was always different and alone. We camped on the boat. The
Sacramento Delta was strange. We had to get used to tides. What the...?
Tides were a concern when we went kayaking at Tybee Island. I knew we
would have to deal with them but I was not prepared for the strength
of them. One day we had to fight the strong down stream current to
get across the river. We beached our boats on an island and went
exploring. When we went back to the boats they were a long way from
the shore and there was only a small channel to paddle through. Then
the tide came back in and it was a tough paddle to get back because of
the upstream current.
When I visit my friend in Ocean City we often sit on the deck
overlooking the beach. When the tide comes in, sometimes people have to move their blanket back a little. Fortunately, the tide does not affect our Gin & Tonic, we just keep sipping.
Ed P wrote on 4/7/2026 9:43 AM:
On 4/7/2026 9:28 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-04-06 11:39 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-04-05, chefly <deal@me.al> wrote:
How much damned fun was that and how were the campsites or
anchorages from lake to lake?
Anchorage was always different and alone. We camped on the boat.
The Sacramento Delta was strange. We had to get used to tides.
What the...?
Tides were a concern when we went kayaking at Tybee Island. I
knew we would have to deal with them but I was not prepared for
the strength of them. One day we had to fight the strong down
stream current to get across the river. We beached our boats on an
island and went exploring. When we went back to the boats they
were a long way from the shore and there was only a small channel
to paddle through. Then the tide came back in and it was a tough
paddle to get back because of the upstream current.
When I visit my friend in Ocean City we often sit on the deck
overlooking the beach. When the tide comes in, sometimes people
have to move their blanket back a little. Fortunately, the tide
does not affect our Gin & Tonic, we just keep sipping.
Nothing like getting drunk and watching the tide roll in.
On 2026-04-07, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
It seems to be popular with the Chinese too. There are casinos in
Niagara Falls and there is always a string of buses coming from
Toronto's Chinatown. That is literally where the buses depart from. I
hear horror stories about their behaviour in the casino. I don't know
how true they are. I walked through the casino once with a friend and I >> was struck by the number of depressed looking people I saw in there.
The Chinese are great believers in luck and they like to gamble. The Japanese
are fatalistic and believe more in fate - they like to gamble too. I guess you
could say that everybody loves to gamble.
Where "everybody" isn't actually everybody.
AGA [American Gambling Association] research shows that more than
half of all American adults (57%) participated in some form of gambling
in the past year. More than a quarter of adults (30%) gambled at a
physical casino in the past year, while 21% placed a sports bet.
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-04-07 1:45 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2026-04-07 11:31 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
If you want to see incredible tides head over to the Bay of Fundy
where tide is about 50 feet. If you are there at high tide everything
looks quite normal. A couple hours later when the tide is our there is
nothing by sand and mud. The water is completely gone. A couple hours
later it is on is way back in. If you are next to the rocky shore, a
dock or pier you can watch as is rises. You don't need to note a mark
or feature and compare it a couple minutes later. You can actually
watch it rising. It's amazing.
I've collected rock samples along the shore there and if
one does any geological fieldwork, knowledge of the tides
is essential. Even knowing the times, you must keep an eye
on the water.
When we went climbing around the caves we took note of the warning not
to be there when the water started coming back. I am glad we heeded the warning because when it came back if did so surprisingly quickly.
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:
On 2026-04-07, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
It seems to be popular with the Chinese too. There are casinos in
Niagara Falls and there is always a string of buses coming from
Toronto's Chinatown. That is literally where the buses depart from. I
hear horror stories about their behaviour in the casino. I don't know
how true they are. I walked through the casino once with a friend and I >> >> was struck by the number of depressed looking people I saw in there.
The Chinese are great believers in luck and they like to gamble. The Japanese
are fatalistic and believe more in fate - they like to gamble too. I guess you
could say that everybody loves to gamble.
Where "everybody" isn't actually everybody.
AGA [American Gambling Association] research shows that more than
half of all American adults (57%) participated in some form of gambling
in the past year. More than a quarter of adults (30%) gambled at a
physical casino in the past year, while 21% placed a sports bet.
I wasn't really talking about Americans - unless you believe that everybody is
mostly Americans. As far as Americans go, you could say that most Americans enjoy
gambling.
If "everybody" loves to gamble, the existence of one person who
doesn't like to gamble disproves your hypothesis.
you could say that most Americans enjoy gambling.
It’s always interesting to watch the arrogant tourists when they visit places like this. They never heed the warnings and then it’s always the locals that need to risk their lives to save them.
Natural selection, anyone?
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mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:
It’s always interesting to watch the arrogant tourists when they visit places like this. They never heed the warnings and then it’s always the locals that need to risk their lives to save them.
Natural selection, anyone?
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http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=703151334#703151334
That's tourists for you.
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