• Re: Liberty Steaks

    From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Sat Jun 27 19:13:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 6/27/2026 8:54 AM, jmquown wrote:
    On 6/24/2026 11:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-06-24 9:36 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    American's "Liberty Steaks"

    The origins of the American hamburger can be traced back to the early
    1900s, when it was first sold from carts on the streets of New York
    City. It wasn't until the 1920s, however, that hamburgers began to be
    served in restaurants, and they quickly became a staple of American
    fast food culture.

    During World War II, however, the name "hamburger" was found to be
    too closely associated with Germany, and some Americans began to
    refer to the dish as a "liberty steak" instead. This was also done
    with sauerkraut, which became known as "liberty cabbage" in an effort
    to dissociate it from its German roots.

    A friend of mine was a high school teacher and hosted a couple
    exchange students from Indonesia. The girls were Muslim and freaked
    when they went to a dinner event where they grilled hamburgers. They
    thought they were pork.  No pork in my friends house. He was a Jew. He
    didn't follow a kosher diet but he did not eat pork.... except bacon.

    When we lived in Bangkok (I was 10 years old) we had a maid who was Muslim.  Every year my parents attended the Marine Corps Ball.  That
    year they "won" the centerpiece, which was a whole roasted suckling pig
    on a platter with little electric lights where the eyeballs would have been.  It was not a pretty sight.  They brought it home and left it sitting on the kitchen table.

    The next morning we were all awakened by a shriek!  The maid had come in and the first thing she saw was the roasted pig on the table.  (No, we didn't eat it.  Dad chopped it up and fed it to the dog.)


    You missed a good meal. Over the years, I know of two people raised
    with no pork, no lobster but somehow tasted some. Life changing.

    A couple of hundred years ago, skipping pork made sense. Farming today
    is much different.
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  • From jmquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Fri Jul 3 19:59:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 6/27/2026 7:13 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 6/27/2026 8:54 AM, jmquown wrote:
    On 2026-06-24 9:36 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    American's "Liberty Steaks"

    When we lived in Bangkok (I was 10 years old) we had a maid who was
    Muslim.  Every year my parents attended the Marine Corps Ball.  That
    year they "won" the centerpiece, which was a whole roasted suckling
    pig on a platter with little electric lights where the eyeballs would
    have been.  It was not a pretty sight.  They brought it home and left
    it sitting on the kitchen table.

    The next morning we were all awakened by a shriek!  The maid had come
    in and the first thing she saw was the roasted pig on the table.  (No,
    we didn't eat it.  Dad chopped it up and fed it to the dog.)


    You missed a good meal.  Over the years, I know of two people raised
    with no pork, no lobster but somehow tasted some.  Life changing.

    I don't think it would have been a "good meal" since the pig had been
    sitting first on a banquet table as a centerpiece for hours, then left
    sitting on a table in our not air-conditioned kitchen for who knows how
    many hours. Not refrigerated. Eating it would not have been a good idea.
    --
    --Jill
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