Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 14:28:13 -0400, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years.
A day of mourning?
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years. I'm expecting to
hear fireworks. Also hearing about houses being set on fire because
idiots buy fireworks and shoot them off where they aren't supposed to.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years. I'm expecting
to hear fireworks. Also hearing about houses being set on fire
because idiots buy fireworks and shoot them off where they aren't
supposed to.
Don't you live in a gated community? You should get the president of
the board to keep the order in your streets.
We took our son's
girlfriend's family from the mainland out to dinner. Here's what I
ordered - try not to get riled up. The good news is that I didn't eat
any of it. I'll probably eat it this morning, outside of the
restaurant.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S4rmhYnoD1iBqviF8
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years. I'm expecting to
hear fireworks. Also hearing about houses being set on fire because
idiots buy fireworks and shoot them off where they aren't supposed to.
Don't you live in a gated community? You should get the president of the board
to keep the order in your streets.
On 2026-07-03, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Lunch was a chicken sandwich with chipotle mayonnaise.
Dinner is marinated cannellini beans, celery, cucumber,
scallion, and parsley. Marinade is oil, red-wine vinegar,
crushed home-grown garlic, and oregano. S&P, of course.
On Fri, 03 Jul 2026 20:57:46 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years. I'm expecting
to hear fireworks. Also hearing about houses being set on fire
because idiots buy fireworks and shoot them off where they aren't supposed to.
Don't you live in a gated community? You should get the president of
the board to keep the order in your streets.
https://media1.tenor.com/m/t8r9Z4n6248AAAAC/violation-hoa.gif
https://media1.tenor.com/m/osV_ArZ-pkQAAAAd/violation-patrick.gif
We took our son's
girlfriend's family from the mainland out to dinner. Here's what I
ordered - try not to get riled up. The good news is that I didn't eat
any of it. I'll probably eat it this morning, outside of the
restaurant.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S4rmhYnoD1iBqviF8
I was hoping it'd be:
https://foodblasts.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Firecracker-Shrimp_3.webp
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
It was a homecooked hamburger and tonight will be another homecooked
burger.
~
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 4:52 PM:
It was a homecooked hamburger and tonight will be another homecooked burger.
You are boring her Royal Majesty!
At least buy some fucking fordhook beans!
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 4:52 PM:
It was a homecooked hamburger and tonight will be another homecooked
burger.
You are boring her Royal Majesty!
At least buy some fucking fordhook beans!
I had baby limas last week.
~
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 6:45 PM:
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 4:52 PM:
It was a homecooked hamburger and tonight will be another homecooked
burger.
You are boring her Royal Majesty!
At least buy some fucking fordhook beans!
I had baby limas last week.
~
That don't count, unless they were FORDHOOKS!
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:22:50 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 6:45 PM:
I had baby limas last week.
That don't count, unless they were FORDHOOKS!
With steamed asparagus?
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:22:50 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 6:45 PM:
I had baby limas last week.
That don't count, unless they were FORDHOOKS!
With steamed asparagus?
I'm not a fan of steamed asparagus, roasted, yes.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:22:50 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 6:45 PM:
I had baby limas last week.
That don't count, unless they were FORDHOOKS!
With steamed asparagus?
I'm not a fan of steamed asparagus, roasted, yes.
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 4:52 PM:
It was a homecooked hamburger and tonight will be another homecooked
burger.
You are boring her Royal Majesty!
At least buy some fucking fordhook beans!
I had baby limas last week.What our resident asshole fails to grasp is I always buy Fordhook lima
~
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2026 20:57:46 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years. I'm
expecting to hear fireworks. Also hearing about houses being
set on fire because idiots buy fireworks and shoot them off
where they aren't supposed to.
Don't you live in a gated community? You should get the president
of the board to keep the order in your streets.
https://media1.tenor.com/m/t8r9Z4n6248AAAAC/violation-hoa.gif
https://media1.tenor.com/m/osV_ArZ-pkQAAAAd/violation-patrick.gif
We took our son's
girlfriend's family from the mainland out to dinner. Here's what I ordered - try not to get riled up. The good news is that I didn't
eat any of it. I'll probably eat it this morning, outside of the restaurant.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S4rmhYnoD1iBqviF8
I was hoping it'd be:
https://foodblasts.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Firecracker-Shrimp_3.webp
I don't know how a group of old folks can allow a bunch of JDs
running wild on their streets setting houses on fire and lighting up fireworks like they were crazed pakes. It probably used to be a good neighborhood in the old days.
It was an Italian restaurant so there wasn't any firecracker shrimp+1
on the menu. I shall take the matter up with the head chef
immediately! My wife had the scallops with linguine. It was okay if
you like that kind of stuff.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YMP6vYeQ2hSZx7jd9
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 4:52 PM:
It was a homecooked hamburger and tonight will be another homecooked
burger.
You are boring her Royal Majesty!
At least buy some fucking fordhook beans!
I had baby limas last week.
~
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:22:50 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 6:45 PM:
I had baby limas last week.
That don't count, unless they were FORDHOOKS!
With steamed asparagus?
I'm not a fan of steamed asparagus, roasted, yes.
~
On 2026-07-03 10:49 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:22:50 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 6:45 PM:
I had baby limas last week.
That don't count, unless they were FORDHOOKS!
With steamed asparagus?
I'm not a fan of steamed asparagus, roasted, yes.
I don't mind it roasted or grilled but my wife prefers it steamed. Not a problem for me. I like it steamed with some salt and pepper.
Apparently
men who eat steamed asparagus don't count when it comes to snarky
replies.
On 7/3/2026 11:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
My brother hated asparagus for years because he had never had anythingI'm not a fan of steamed asparagus, roasted, yes.
I don't mind it roasted or grilled but my wife prefers it steamed. Not
a problem for me. I like it steamed with some salt and pepper.
but nasty canned asparagus. The first time he tasted fresh asparagus
(and I do believe it was steamed, with a little S&P) he realized it's delicious.
On 7/3/2026 7:45 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 4:52 PM:
It was a homecooked hamburger and tonight will be another homecooked
burger.
You are boring her Royal Majesty!
At least buy some fucking fordhook beans!
I had baby limas last week.
~
Seems you lost your title ;)
On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 17:31:59 -0400
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Apparently
men who eat steamed asparagus don't count when it comes to snarky
replies.
No, no, no...loose the full measure of your royal snark on them, Dataw
Queen!
Have at - let loose the snarks of food war.
squillage wrote on 7/4/2026 4:50 PM:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 17:31:59 -0400
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Apparently
men who eat steamed asparagus don't count when it comes to snarky
replies.
No, no, no...loose the full measure of your royal snark on them,
Dataw Queen!
Have at - let loose the snarks of food war.
Careful man. Tread lightly or her Majesty might ban your ass from
her royal newsgroup. A word to the wise.
On 7/3/2026 10:49 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Dave is the one who posts the most about steamed asparagus. Apparently
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:22:50 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 6:45 PM:
I had baby limas last week.
That don't count, unless they were FORDHOOKS!
With steamed asparagus?
I'm not a fan of steamed asparagus, roasted, yes.
men who eat steamed asparagus don't count when it comes to snarky replies.
On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 17:31:59 -0400, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
On 7/3/2026 10:49 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Dave is the one who posts the most about steamed asparagus. Apparently
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:22:50 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/3/2026 6:45 PM:
I had baby limas last week.
That don't count, unless they were FORDHOOKS!
With steamed asparagus?
I'm not a fan of steamed asparagus, roasted, yes.
men who eat steamed asparagus don't count when it comes to snarky replies.
They do but I don't always read Dave's entire posts. There aren't
enough hours in a day.
A-Parmentiae wrote on 7/4/2026 5:05 PM:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 17:31:59 -0400, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
On 7/3/2026 10:49 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:They do but I don't always read Dave's entire posts. There aren't
Dave is the one who posts the most about steamed asparagus. Apparently
I'm not a fan of steamed asparagus, roasted, yes.
men who eat steamed asparagus don't count when it comes to snarky replies. >>
enough hours in a day.
No human can read all of Officer Dave's voluminous posts. Maybe a >supercomputer running some AI shit 24/7 could keep up ... but no human
can do it. Give up!
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a lot lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it farm
fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW...
my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
On 7/4/2026 5:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a
lot lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it
farm fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff.
BTW... my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years. I'm expecting to
hear fireworks. Also hearing about houses being set on fire because
idiots buy fireworks and shoot them off where they aren't supposed to.
ot
On 2026-07-04 8:27 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/4/2026 5:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a
lot lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it
farm fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff.
BTW... my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was canned
asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
I am not ruling out the possibility that I might have been fed canned >asparagus but I may have been too young to remember.
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a lot lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it farm
fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW...
my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
On 2026-07-03, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Meat loaf, mashed potatoes and nuked Fordhook lima beans.
Tonight I will make a pot of red beans & rice.
Tomorrow is American Independence Day. 250 years. I'm expecting to
hear fireworks. Also hearing about houses being set on fire because
idiots buy fireworks and shoot them off where they aren't supposed to.
We had steak and potato salad. Today, the meal is a hot-dog, a barbecued
pork rib from one of the best barbecue places in the area, which sat in
the fridge for a day or two, and potato salad.
Yesterday, I fried the steak, and my wife made the potato salad. I win!
Oh, and the barbecue place supplied the plasticware. No muss, no fuss.
Happy 4th, everyone!
<https://postimg.cc/D86j6x7p>
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
ot
On 2026-07-04 8:27 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/4/2026 5:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a
lot lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it
farm fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff.
BTW... my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
I am not ruling out the possibility that I might have been fed canned asparagus but I may have been too young to remember. Back in the 50s
grocery stores were full of canned fruits and vegetables. I do remember eating fresh asparagus in season and I loved it. I grew up in a small
town that still had a number of small farms, orchards and truck farms.
We got most of our fruit and vegetables from those small family run
truck farms. Those are almost a thing of the past.
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a lot
lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it farm
fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW...
my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
The first time I was served asparagus while I screamed and hollered, I
was probably seven years old. I threw up at the table, and nobody tried
that again.
When it was served to me, at a restaurant meal that I paid for, many
years later, I was forced to try it again by my own cheapness.
I love the stuff!
On 7/4/2026 9:41 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a lot
lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it farm
fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW...
my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
The first time I was served asparagus while I screamed and hollered, I
was probably seven years old. I threw up at the table, and nobody tried
that again.
When it was served to me, at a restaurant meal that I paid for, many
years later, I was forced to try it again by my own cheapness.
I love the stuff!
When we were kids, most veggies were canned. You had fresh a few times
a year when things were in season. In summer, every Monday the huckster came down the street and people bought the fresh stuff he had that day.
In the middle of January we did not have blueberries flown in from Peru
I don't mind canned asparagus at all. That's the asparagus we had when I was a
kid.
I never saw the fresh stuff until I was in my twenties. The extra long cans >make me laugh.
Dinner last night was some chicken wings. It was time for sticky fingers. My >daughter made a pasta salad for a party. Tasty. I bought some gas yesterday. The
cost was a lucky omen for me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f44VjeXknQDhDSYr6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D3CWBP8HRRf3B4vS6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YZu7xsjdD6JSKkcM7
On 7/4/2026 9:41 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a lot
lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it farm
fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW...
my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
The first time I was served asparagus while I screamed and hollered, I
was probably seven years old. I threw up at the table, and nobody tried
that again.
When it was served to me, at a restaurant meal that I paid for, many
years later, I was forced to try it again by my own cheapness.
I love the stuff!
When we were kids, most veggies were canned. You had fresh a few times
a year when things were in season. In summer, every Monday the huckster >came down the street and people bought the fresh stuff he had that day.
On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 22:43:01 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/4/2026 9:41 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a lot >>>> lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it farm
fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW... >>>> my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
The first time I was served asparagus while I screamed and hollered, I
was probably seven years old. I threw up at the table, and nobody tried
that again.
When it was served to me, at a restaurant meal that I paid for, many
years later, I was forced to try it again by my own cheapness.
I love the stuff!
When we were kids, most veggies were canned. You had fresh a few times
a year when things were in season. In summer, every Monday the huckster
came down the street and people bought the fresh stuff he had that day.
Isn't there stuff in season 10 months of the year? And can't stored
root vegetables get you through the 2 remaining months? Not sure, just asking.
On 7/4/2026 11:30 PM, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 22:43:01 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
When we were kids, most veggies were canned. You had fresh a few times
a year when things were in season. In summer, every Monday the huckster >>> came down the street and people bought the fresh stuff he had that day.
Isn't there stuff in season 10 months of the year? And can't stored
root vegetables get you through the 2 remaining months? Not sure, just
asking.
Depends on climate. Nothing to pick when there is a couple of feet of
snow on the ground starting December, nothing usually planted until >April/May.
Yes, potatoes were always available, not sure where from.
On 2026-07-05, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
When pea vendors drive up the street, my wife's eyes bug out, she starts
to gasp and passes out. Luckily, a law was passed prohibiting pea
vendors, and we're back to normal.
On 2026-07-05, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was canned
asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
When pea vendors drive up the street, my wife's eyes bug out, she starts
to gasp and passes out. Luckily, a law was passed prohibiting pea
vendors, and we're back to normal.
Even oranges were rare.
Today, the meal is a hot-dog
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a lot
lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it farm
fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW...
my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
The first time I was served asparagus while I screamed and hollered, I
was probably seven years old. I threw up at the table, and nobody tried
that again.
When it was served to me, at a restaurant meal that I paid for, many
years later, I was forced to try it again by my own cheapness.
I love the stuff!
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
ot
On 2026-07-04 8:27 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/4/2026 5:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating
it a lot lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can
get it farm fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the
imported stuff. BTW... my erred above when I wrote salt and
pepper. Salt and butter.
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was
canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted
fresh.
I am not ruling out the possibility that I might have been fed
canned asparagus but I may have been too young to remember. Back in
the 50s grocery stores were full of canned fruits and vegetables. I
do remember eating fresh asparagus in season and I loved it. I
grew up in a small town that still had a number of small farms,
orchards and truck farms. We got most of our fruit and vegetables
from those small family run truck farms. Those are almost a thing
of the past.
I don't mind canned asparagus at all. That's the asparagus we had
when I was a kid. I never saw the fresh stuff until I was in my
twenties. The extra long cans make me laugh.
Dinner last night was some chicken wings. It was time for sticky
fingers. My daughter made a pasta salad for a party. Tasty. I bought
some gas yesterday. The cost was a lucky omen for me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f44VjeXknQDhDSYr6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D3CWBP8HRRf3B4vS6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YZu7xsjdD6JSKkcM7
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-07-05, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was
canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted
fresh.
When pea vendors drive up the street, my wife's eyes bug out, she
starts to gasp and passes out. Luckily, a law was passed
prohibiting pea vendors, and we're back to normal.
I did not realize that you guys had it so hard on the mainland. I had
a fried cheese burger. The burger was boiled in water with dehydrated
onions, a little shoyu, Worcestershire sauce, and sugar. The mix was
reduced until it got a little gooey, then a slice of pepper Jack
cheese was laid on the pan with the burger patty on top. Of course,
the burger was a frozen, preformed, patty.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FFit6eqWP1MhU5C57
I didn't taste fresh peas until I was around 30 years old
On 7/4/2026 11:30 PM, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 22:43:01 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/4/2026 9:41 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating it a >>>>> lot
lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can get it farm
fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW... >>>>> my erred above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
The first time I was served asparagus while I screamed and hollered, I >>>> was probably seven years old. I threw up at the table, and nobody tried >>>> that again.
When it was served to me, at a restaurant meal that I paid for, many
years later, I was forced to try it again by my own cheapness.
I love the stuff!
When we were kids, most veggies were canned. You had fresh a few times >>> a year when things were in season. In summer, every Monday the huckster >>> came down the street and people bought the fresh stuff he had that day.
Isn't there stuff in season 10 months of the year? And can't stored
root vegetables get you through the 2 remaining months? Not sure, just
asking.
Depends on climate. Nothing to pick when there is a couple of feet of
snow on the ground starting December, nothing usually planted until April/May.
Yes, potatoes were always available, not sure where from.
I didn't mind the canned asparagus (didn't know any better) but the
first time tasting fresh was a revelation! Canned peas, however... no.
I didn't taste fresh peas until I was around 30 years old (at a
restaurant) and the difference was astounding.
Dave Smith wrote :
Even oranges were rare.
Getting an orange in your Christmas stocking used to be a big deal.
Today? Not so much. Do folks still do Christmas stockings?
On 7/5/2026 8:12 AM, jmquown wrote:
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas ever again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
I didn't mind the canned asparagus (didn't know any better) but the
first time tasting fresh was a revelation! Canned peas, however...
no. I didn't taste fresh peas until I was around 30 years old (at a
restaurant) and the difference was astounding.
freezing them.
Even that took a while because home refrigerators had very small
freezers so you could not easily stock up on frozen veggies. The one in
my grandparents fridge was probably about 10" x 12" and had two ice cube trays.
On 7/5/2026 8:12 AM, jmquown wrote:
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas ever again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
I didn't mind the canned asparagus (didn't know any better) but the
first time tasting fresh was a revelation! Canned peas, however...
no. I didn't taste fresh peas until I was around 30 years old (at a
restaurant) and the difference was astounding.
freezing them.
Even that took a while because home refrigerators had very small
freezers so you could not easily stock up on frozen veggies. The one in
my grandparents fridge was probably about 10" x 12" and had two ice cube trays.
On 7/5/2026 8:56 AM, Ed P wrote:
On 7/5/2026 8:12 AM, jmquown wrote:Funny thing about Clarence Birdseye. He did that before anyone had home freezers. People were still using ice boxes and had ice delivered
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas
I didn't mind the canned asparagus (didn't know any better) but the
first time tasting fresh was a revelation! Canned peas, however...
no. I didn't taste fresh peas until I was around 30 years old (at a
restaurant) and the difference was astounding.
ever again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
freezing them.
covered in sawdust to keep things cold. Forward thinker, Mr. Birdseye.
Even that took a while because home refrigerators had very small
freezers so you could not easily stock up on frozen veggies. The one
in my grandparents fridge was probably about 10" x 12" and had two ice
cube trays.
I'm a lot younger than you are but I also grew up with a refrigerator
with a freezer that could barely fit more than a couple of ice cube
trays. Oh, but my parents did eventually buy a stand alone freezer.
Took them a while, but frozen peas were so much better than canned.
A couple ice cube trays and a couple cans of orange juice or lemonade.
You didn't buy a half gallon of ice cream unless you planned to use it
up that day.
On 7/5/2026 10:07 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
A couple ice cube trays and a couple cans of orange juice or lemonade.
You didn't buy a half gallon of ice cream unless you planned to use it
up that day.
When visiting my grandparents, Leo's Variety Store was on the next block
so we went and got a cone of ice cream. I remember having family
dinners and ice cream was the dessert. My grandfather would as what
flavor we each wanted. Then he took a large bowl to Leo's and got a
scoop of each, then we took our scoop from the bowl.
Back then, it was Breyer's ice cream when made locally. It was bought
out by the big buys and quality went to crap. It was Sealtest for a
while, now I think it is Kraft and has fillers and gums added.
On 2026-07-05 8:56 a.m., Ed P wrote:
On 7/5/2026 8:12 AM, jmquown wrote:
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas ever
I didn't mind the canned asparagus (didn't know any better) but the
first time tasting fresh was a revelation! Canned peas, however...
no. I didn't taste fresh peas until I was around 30 years old (at a
restaurant) and the difference was astounding.
again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
freezing them.
I guess I am the odd man out. I actually liked canned peas. They were
one of my favourites. I think they taste more like fresh peas than the frozen guys do.
On 7/5/2026 8:12 AM, jmquown wrote:
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas ever again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
I didn't mind the canned asparagus (didn't know any better) but the
first time tasting fresh was a revelation! Canned peas, however... no.
I didn't taste fresh peas until I was around 30 years old (at a
restaurant) and the difference was astounding.
freezing them.
Even that took a while because home refrigerators had very small
freezers so you could not easily stock up on frozen veggies. The one in
my grandparents fridge was probably about 10" x 12" and had two ice cube trays.
On 2026-07-05 7:26 a.m., heyjoe wrote:
Dave Smith wrote :
Even oranges were rare.
Getting an orange in your Christmas stocking used to be a big deal.
Today? Not so much. Do folks still do Christmas stockings?
We do Christmas stockings.
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 01:53:16 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
ot
On 2026-07-04 8:27 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/4/2026 5:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been eating
it a lot lately because the local stuff is in season, and we can
get it farm fresh here. Soon we will have to resort to the
imported stuff. BTW... my erred above when I wrote salt and
pepper. Salt and butter.
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was
canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
I am not ruling out the possibility that I might have been fed
canned asparagus but I may have been too young to remember. Back in
the 50s grocery stores were full of canned fruits and vegetables. I
do remember eating fresh asparagus in season and I loved it. I
grew up in a small town that still had a number of small farms,
orchards and truck farms. We got most of our fruit and vegetables
from those small family run truck farms. Those are almost a thing
of the past.
I don't mind canned asparagus at all. That's the asparagus we had
when I was a kid. I never saw the fresh stuff until I was in my
twenties. The extra long cans make me laugh.
Dinner last night was some chicken wings. It was time for sticky
fingers. My daughter made a pasta salad for a party. Tasty. I bought
some gas yesterday. The cost was a lucky omen for me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f44VjeXknQDhDSYr6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D3CWBP8HRRf3B4vS6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YZu7xsjdD6JSKkcM7
Those are Cali prices.
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:Nope, but then zone pricing never does.
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 01:53:16 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
ot
On 2026-07-04 8:27 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/4/2026 5:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been
eating it a lot lately because the local stuff is in season,
and we can get it farm fresh here. Soon we will have to
resort to the imported stuff. BTW... my erred above when I
wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted
was canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I
tasted fresh.
I am not ruling out the possibility that I might have been fed
canned asparagus but I may have been too young to remember.
Back in the 50s grocery stores were full of canned fruits and vegetables. I do remember eating fresh asparagus in season and
I loved it. I grew up in a small town that still had a number
of small farms, orchards and truck farms. We got most of our
fruit and vegetables from those small family run truck farms.
Those are almost a thing of the past.
I don't mind canned asparagus at all. That's the asparagus we had
when I was a kid. I never saw the fresh stuff until I was in my
twenties. The extra long cans make me laugh.
Dinner last night was some chicken wings. It was time for sticky
fingers. My daughter made a pasta salad for a party. Tasty. I
bought some gas yesterday. The cost was a lucky omen for me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f44VjeXknQDhDSYr6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D3CWBP8HRRf3B4vS6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YZu7xsjdD6JSKkcM7
Those are Cali prices.
I had heard that gas prices in California was high back in the late
70's. We moved there and I was driving a 72 Mazda RX2. That was a gas
guzzler but fun to drive. I wish I had one now. I was surprised that
gas prices were high in Las Vegas too. Does that seem right to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByQKsXsRnUkI liked the Celicas of that vintage too, but the rotary factor is
On 5 Jul 2026 01:45:35 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was canned >> asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
When pea vendors drive up the street, my wife's eyes bug out, she starts
to gasp and passes out. Luckily, a law was passed prohibiting pea
vendors, and we're back to normal.
I asked AI what this meant. Look at the last sentence.
"It is the classic comedic technique of taking a very minor, ordinary
dislike --like someone just absolutely hating peas-- and blowing it up
into a massive, theatrical production.
Saying "My wife doesn't care for peas" is boring. But painting a
picture where she literally faints at the mere sight of a "pea vendor"
coming down the street, requiring a literal act of government to save
her? That is just pure, classic deadpan storytelling.
It sounds like that person has a great sense of humor!"
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 20:47:33 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 01:53:16 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
ot
On 2026-07-04 8:27 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/4/2026 5:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been
eating it a lot lately because the local stuff is in season,
and we can get it farm fresh here. Soon we will have to
resort to the imported stuff. BTW... my erred above when I
wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted
was canned asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
I am not ruling out the possibility that I might have been fed
canned asparagus but I may have been too young to remember.
Back in the 50s grocery stores were full of canned fruits and vegetables. I do remember eating fresh asparagus in season and
I loved it. I grew up in a small town that still had a number
of small farms, orchards and truck farms. We got most of our
fruit and vegetables from those small family run truck farms.
Those are almost a thing of the past.
I don't mind canned asparagus at all. That's the asparagus we had
when I was a kid. I never saw the fresh stuff until I was in my twenties. The extra long cans make me laugh.
Dinner last night was some chicken wings. It was time for sticky fingers. My daughter made a pasta salad for a party. Tasty. I
bought some gas yesterday. The cost was a lucky omen for me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f44VjeXknQDhDSYr6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D3CWBP8HRRf3B4vS6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YZu7xsjdD6JSKkcM7
Those are Cali prices.
I had heard that gas prices in California was high back in the late
70's. We moved there and I was driving a 72 Mazda RX2. That was a gas guzzler but fun to drive. I wish I had one now. I was surprised that
gas prices were high in Las Vegas too. Does that seem right to you?
Nope, but then zone pricing never does.
Or it's just more Californication:
AI Overview
Las Vegas gas prices are high primarily
because Nevada relies almost entirely on California refineries for its
fuel. When California’s stringent environmental regulations and
refinery maintenance drive up costs there, Southern Nevada consumers
pay the premium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByQKsXsRnUk
I liked the Celicas of that vintage too, but the rotary factor is
awesome. The RX2 also had a more attractive cabin and interior.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On 5 Jul 2026 01:45:35 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever tasted was canned >> >> asparagus. I felt the same way about peas until I tasted fresh.
When pea vendors drive up the street, my wife's eyes bug out, she starts
to gasp and passes out. Luckily, a law was passed prohibiting pea
vendors, and we're back to normal.
I asked AI what this meant. Look at the last sentence.
"It is the classic comedic technique of taking a very minor, ordinary
dislike --like someone just absolutely hating peas-- and blowing it up
into a massive, theatrical production.
Saying "My wife doesn't care for peas" is boring. But painting a
picture where she literally faints at the mere sight of a "pea vendor"
coming down the street, requiring a literal act of government to save
her? That is just pure, classic deadpan storytelling.
It sounds like that person has a great sense of humor!"
You think that having a machine analyse humor is a good idea.
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
I liked the Celicas of that vintage too, but the rotary factor is
awesome. The RX2 also had a more attractive cabin and interior.
My boss in California took me for a ride in his tricked-out Celica. I think it
was a 1975. It was pretty good, I guess. My main problem with the car was the guy that was driving it. I liked my stock Mazda better. The guys at the shop called it a Jap-mobile. With contempt, I must add.
I also had a Mazda RX3 in Hawaii. It had an automatic transmission that worked
great with the rotary engine. It was an outrageous lime green and a tiny station
wagon. It's a wonderful car if you like whimsy and power. Who the heck doesn't?
On 2026-07-05 6:17 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned. My father bought a Datsun 1200. My brother bought it off him and I ended up buyingI liked the Celicas of that vintage too, but the rotary factor is
awesome. The RX2 also had a more attractive cabin and interior.
My boss in California took me for a ride in his tricked-out Celica. I
think it
was a 1975. It was pretty good, I guess. My main problem with the car
was the
guy that was driving it. I liked my stock Mazda better. The guys at
the shop
called it a Jap-mobile. With contempt, I must add.
I also had a Mazda RX3 in Hawaii. It had an automatic transmission
that worked
great with the rotary engine. It was an outrageous lime green and a
tiny station
wagon. It's a wonderful car if you like whimsy and power. Who the heck
doesn't?
it from my brother. It was a fun little car to drive and got close to 50 mph, but after about 5 years the body was pretty much completely rotted away. At one point the cylinder head warped. One hot summer day I went
out to run an errand and the back window was shattered. It had popped in
the heat. A friend of mine had a Mazda with a Wankel engine. It was
fast, but mainly because that engine was able to burn a lot of gas. It didn't handle well enough to match the power.
On 7/5/2026 6:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned. My fatherUm, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads need to
bought a Datsun 1200. My brother bought it off him and I ended up buying
it from my brother. It was a fun little car to drive and got close to 50
mph, but after about 5 years the body was pretty much completely rotted
away. At one point the cylinder head warped. One hot summer day I went
out to run an errand and the back window was shattered. It had popped in
the heat. A friend of mine had a Mazda with a Wankel engine. It was
fast, but mainly because that engine was able to burn a lot of gas. It
didn't handle well enough to match the power.
be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust. Has nothing to
do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
On 7/5/2026 6:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-07-05 6:17 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned. MyUm, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads need to
father bought a Datsun 1200. My brother bought it off him and I ended
up buying it from my brother. It was a fun little car to drive and got
close to 50 mph, but after about 5 years the body was pretty much
completely rotted away. At one point the cylinder head warped. One hot
summer day I went out to run an errand and the back window was
shattered. It had popped in the heat. A friend of mine had a Mazda
with a Wankel engine. It was fast, but mainly because that engine was
able to burn a lot of gas. It didn't handle well enough to match the
power.
be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust. Has nothing to
do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/5/2026 6:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-07-05 6:17 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned. MyUm, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads need to
father bought a Datsun 1200. My brother bought it off him and I ended
up buying it from my brother. It was a fun little car to drive and got
close to 50 mph, but after about 5 years the body was pretty much
completely rotted away. At one point the cylinder head warped. One hot
summer day I went out to run an errand and the back window was
shattered. It had popped in the heat. A friend of mine had a Mazda
with a Wankel engine. It was fast, but mainly because that engine was
able to burn a lot of gas. It didn't handle well enough to match the
power.
be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust. Has nothing to
do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but this one >rotted out much faster than any other car I have had. Cars are built
better new.
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:I remember that term, ricer came next.
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 20:47:33 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 01:53:16 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
ot
On 2026-07-04 8:27 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/4/2026 5:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I can't remember ever disliking asparagus. We have been
eating it a lot lately because the local stuff is in
season, and we can get it farm fresh here. Soon we will
have to resort to the imported stuff. BTW... my erred
above when I wrote salt and pepper. Salt and butter.
You probably wouldn't have liked it if all you'd ever
tasted was canned asparagus. I felt the same way about
peas until I tasted fresh.
I am not ruling out the possibility that I might have been
fed canned asparagus but I may have been too young to
remember. Back in the 50s grocery stores were full of
canned fruits and vegetables. I do remember eating fresh
asparagus in season and I loved it. I grew up in a small
town that still had a number of small farms, orchards and
truck farms. We got most of our fruit and vegetables from
those small family run truck farms. Those are almost a
thing of the past.
I don't mind canned asparagus at all. That's the asparagus we
had when I was a kid. I never saw the fresh stuff until I was
in my twenties. The extra long cans make me laugh.
Dinner last night was some chicken wings. It was time for
sticky fingers. My daughter made a pasta salad for a party.
Tasty. I bought some gas yesterday. The cost was a lucky omen
for me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f44VjeXknQDhDSYr6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D3CWBP8HRRf3B4vS6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YZu7xsjdD6JSKkcM7
Those are Cali prices.
I had heard that gas prices in California was high back in the
late 70's. We moved there and I was driving a 72 Mazda RX2. That
was a gas guzzler but fun to drive. I wish I had one now. I was
surprised that gas prices were high in Las Vegas too. Does that
seem right to you?
Nope, but then zone pricing never does.
Or it's just more Californication:
AI Overview
Las Vegas gas prices are high primarily
because Nevada relies almost entirely on California refineries for
its fuel. When California’s stringent environmental regulations and refinery maintenance drive up costs there, Southern Nevada consumers
pay the premium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByQKsXsRnUk
I liked the Celicas of that vintage too, but the rotary factor is
awesome. The RX2 also had a more attractive cabin and interior.
My boss in California took me for a ride in his tricked-out Celica. I
think it was a 1975. It was pretty good, I guess. My main problem
with the car was the guy that was driving it. I liked my stock Mazda
better. The guys at the shop called it a Jap-mobile. With contempt, I
must add.
I also had a Mazda RX3 in Hawaii. It had an automatic transmissionThere was also something about their styling that just seemed to tribute
that worked great with the rotary engine. It was an outrageous lime
green and a tiny station wagon. It's a wonderful car if you like
whimsy and power. Who the heck doesn't?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DSJGGZ6kw4Y/
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned.
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas ever >again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
freezing them.
On 2026-07-05, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 7/5/2026 6:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-07-05 6:17 p.m., dsi1 wrote:Um, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads need to
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned. My father
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
I liked the Celicas of that vintage too, but the rotary factor is
awesome. The RX2 also had a more attractive cabin and interior.
My boss in California took me for a ride in his tricked-out Celica. I
think it
was a 1975. It was pretty good, I guess. My main problem with the car
was the
guy that was driving it. I liked my stock Mazda better. The guys at
the shop
called it a Jap-mobile. With contempt, I must add.
I also had a Mazda RX3 in Hawaii. It had an automatic transmission
that worked
great with the rotary engine. It was an outrageous lime green and a
tiny station
wagon. It's a wonderful car if you like whimsy and power. Who the heck >>>> doesn't?
bought a Datsun 1200. My brother bought it off him and I ended up buying >>> it from my brother. It was a fun little car to drive and got close to 50 >>> mph, but after about 5 years the body was pretty much completely rotted
away. At one point the cylinder head warped. One hot summer day I went
out to run an errand and the back window was shattered. It had popped in >>> the heat. A friend of mine had a Mazda with a Wankel engine. It was
fast, but mainly because that engine was able to burn a lot of gas. It
didn't handle well enough to match the power.
be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust. Has nothing to
do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Dave had plenty of Big Three cars to compare it to.
"Early Japanese cars (especially from the 1970s and 1980s) rusted quickly because they lacked modern anti-corrosion treatments, were built with
thinner and lower-grade steel to save weight, and were shipped with bare-metal interiors that trapped moisture when exposed to harsh winter climates."
On 2026-07-06 4:14 a.m., Stefan Ram wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote or quoted:Still the best way to eat them!!!!!!
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas ever
again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
freezing them.
Now, as for the taste . . .
When I was a kid, we stayed at this little bed-and-breakfast
that grew its own peas. I used to pluck them straight off
the vine and eat them raw right out of the pod.
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/5/2026 6:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-07-05 6:17 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned. MyUm, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads need to
father bought a Datsun 1200. My brother bought it off him and I ended
up buying it from my brother. It was a fun little car to drive and got
close to 50 mph, but after about 5 years the body was pretty much
completely rotted away. At one point the cylinder head warped. One hot
summer day I went out to run an errand and the back window was
shattered. It had popped in the heat. A friend of mine had a Mazda
with a Wankel engine. It was fast, but mainly because that engine was
able to burn a lot of gas. It didn't handle well enough to match the
power.
be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust. Has nothing to
do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but this one rotted out much faster than any other car I have had. Cars are built
better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has no rust.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
Um, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads need to
be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust. Has nothing to >> > do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but this one
rotted out much faster than any other car I have had. Cars are built
better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has no rust.
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an environment that was
kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built in the 60s or 70s that was rust >free. I was always applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was >rust free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the
rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved >driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
On Mon, 6 Jul 2026 09:26:19 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2026-07-06 4:14 a.m., Stefan Ram wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote or quoted:Still the best way to eat them!!!!!!
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas ever >>>> again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
freezing them.
Now, as for the taste . . .
When I was a kid, we stayed at this little bed-and-breakfast
that grew its own peas. I used to pluck them straight off
the vine and eat them raw right out of the pod.
The English and their peas. Poor things.
On 2026-07-06 11:40 a.m., Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2026 09:26:19 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:I eat my peas with honey.
On 2026-07-06 4:14 a.m., Stefan Ram wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote or quoted:Still the best way to eat them!!!!!!
If you grew up on canned peas, I can understand never wanting peas ever >>>>> again. Fortunately, Clarence Birdseye fixed that when he started
freezing them.
Now, as for the taste . . .
When I was a kid, we stayed at this little bed-and-breakfast
that grew its own peas. I used to pluck them straight off
the vine and eat them raw right out of the pod.
The English and their peas. Poor things.
I've done it all my life.
It makes the peas taste funny
But it keeps them on the knife.
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 19:12:37 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
Um, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads need to >> > be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust. Has nothing to >> > do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but this one
rotted out much faster than any other car I have had. Cars are built
better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has no rust.
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an environment that was
kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built in the 60s or 70s that was rust
free. I was always applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was
rust free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the
rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved
driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
Cars and guitars. Boys will be boys.
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 19:12:37 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
Um, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads
need to be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust.
Has nothing to do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but this
one rotted out much faster than any other car I have had. Cars are
built better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has no rust.
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an
environment that was kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built
in the 60s or 70s that was rust free. I was always applying Bondo to
cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was rust free - probably because
it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the rustiest car I
ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved
driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
Cars and guitars. Boys will be boys.
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an environment that was
kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built in the 60s or 70s that was rust
free. I was always applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was rust free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the
rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
On 2026-07-06, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an
environment that was kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built
in the 60s or 70s that was rust free. I was always applying Bondo
to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was rust free - probably
because it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the rustiest
car I ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved
driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
I've never had a car built in any decade that was rust free. De-icing
salt eats cars.
On 2026-07-06, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an environment that was
kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built in the 60s or 70s that was rust
free. I was always applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was >> rust free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the
rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved >> driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
I've never had a car built in any decade that was rust free. De-icing
salt eats cars.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 19:12:37 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an environment that was
kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built in the 60s or 70s that was rust
free. I was always applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was
rust free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the
rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved
driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
Cars and guitars. Boys will be boys.
You got that right. It's the first time you've ever been right.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bBWNQ9nusuodvc5M8
On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 05:23:18 +1000
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 19:12:37 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
Um, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads
need to be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust.
Has nothing to do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but this
one rotted out much faster than any other car I have had. Cars are
built better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has no rust.
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an
environment that was kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built
in the 60s or 70s that was rust free. I was always applying Bondo to
cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was rust free - probably because
it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the rustiest car I
ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved
driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
Cars and guitars. Boys will be boys.
"Now it's guitars, Cadillacs, hillbilly music
Lonely, lonely streets that I call home
Yeah, my guitars, Cadillacs, hillbilly music
It's the only thing that keeps me hangin' on..."
On 2026-07-06, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an environment that was
kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built in the 60s or 70s that was rust
free. I was always applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was >> rust free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the
rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved >> driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
I've never had a car built in any decade that was rust free. De-icing
salt eats cars.
Shame on you Leo. Everybody knows "You never put catsup on a hot
dog."
Back then, it was Breyer's ice cream when made locally. It was bought
out by the big buys and quality went to crap. It was Sealtest for a
while, now I think it is Kraft and has fillers and gums added.
Saying "My wife doesn't care for peas" is boring. But painting a
picture where she literally faints at the mere sight of a "pea vendor"
coming down the street, requiring a literal act of government to save
her? That is just pure, classic deadpan storytelling.
It sounds like that person has a great sense of humor!"
On 2026-07-05, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Saying "My wife doesn't care for peas" is boring. But painting a
picture where she literally faints at the mere sight of a "pea vendor"
coming down the street, requiring a literal act of government to save
her? That is just pure, classic deadpan storytelling.
It sounds like that person has a great sense of humor!"
Hmmmm...AI is starting to impress me. 🤔
I had heard that gas prices in California was high back in the late 70's. We moved there and I was driving a 72 Mazda RX2. That was a gas guzzler but fun to drive. I wish I had one now. I was surprised that gas prices were high in Las Vegas too. Does that seem right to you?
I agree, old cars are often not as good as new ones.
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/5/2026 6:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-07-05 6:17 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned. MyUm, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads need to
father bought a Datsun 1200. My brother bought it off him and I ended
up buying it from my brother. It was a fun little car to drive and got
close to 50 mph, but after about 5 years the body was pretty much
completely rotted away. At one point the cylinder head warped. One hot
summer day I went out to run an errand and the back window was
shattered. It had popped in the heat. A friend of mine had a Mazda
with a Wankel engine. It was fast, but mainly because that engine was
able to burn a lot of gas. It didn't handle well enough to match the
power.
be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust. Has nothing to
do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but this one rotted out much faster than any other car I have had. Cars are built
better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has no rust.
sid croft <andz@mar.ty> posted:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 05:23:18 +1000
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 19:12:37 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
Um, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and
roads need to be salted and the body of any car will
certainly rust. Has nothing to do with the car manufacturer
being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but
this one rotted out much faster than any other car I have had.
Cars are built better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has
no rust.
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an
environment that was kind to car bodies. I've never had a car
built in the 60s or 70s that was rust free. I was always
applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was rust
free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW
Scirocco was the rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It
was a wonderful car - I loved driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
Cars and guitars. Boys will be boys."Now it's guitars, Cadillacs, hillbilly music
Lonely, lonely streets that I call home
Yeah, my guitars, Cadillacs, hillbilly music
It's the only thing that keeps me hangin' on..."
I have heard of this "rockabilly." All the kids are listening to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz147m98jdQ
On 2026-07-05, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
Back then, it was Breyer's ice cream when made locally. It was
bought out by the big buys and quality went to crap. It was
Sealtest for a while, now I think it is Kraft and has fillers and
gums added.
Gum! I remember Dubble Bubble, a piece for a penny. I haven't had orComic was Pud: https://geraldsaul.blogspot.com/2017/08/pud-comics-from-dubble-bubble-complete.html
seen any for 70 years. I just googled and see they still make it. Now,
if I only had teeth, I'd buy some. There was a cartoon in every
wrapper. Had I saved baseball cards, with the hard piece of bubble
gum, from the Fifties, I'd be rich! DiMaggio, Mantle as a rookie, Roy Campanella, Jackie Robinson, I threw them all away. ☹️
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 7/5/2026 6:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-07-05 6:17 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Japanese cars back in the early 70s were justifiably scorned. MyUm, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and roads
father bought a Datsun 1200. My brother bought it off him and I
ended up buying it from my brother. It was a fun little car to
drive and got close to 50 mph, but after about 5 years the body
was pretty much completely rotted away. At one point the
cylinder head warped. One hot summer day I went out to run an
errand and the back window was shattered. It had popped in the
heat. A friend of mine had a Mazda with a Wankel engine. It was
fast, but mainly because that engine was able to burn a lot of
gas. It didn't handle well enough to match the power.
need to be salted and the body of any car will certainly rust.
Has nothing to do with the car manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but this
one rotted out much faster than any other car I have had. Cars are
built better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has no rust.
Japanese cars were lighter built back in the old days. Your CRV is
probably over 1000 lbs heavier than a 70's Honda. Warped heads were a
problem with the Japanese cars because they had aluminum alloy heads. Americans didn't know how to take care of their cars back then.
Here's something that I saw on a Chevy truck today.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tFbD8zQvUEaeXfZMA
On 2026-07-06 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-07-06, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an environment that was
kind to car bodies. I've never had a car built in the 60s or 70s that was rust
free. I was always applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was
rust free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW Scirocco was the
rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved
driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
I've never had a car built in any decade that was rust free. De-icing
salt eats cars.
Rust free for how long?
Back in the 70s cars would have serious rust
damage within 4-5 years. My mother's old Buick lasted about 15 years
before the front end sort of gave out but there was no body rust to
speak of. My 2013 CRV is no body rust and it is sound down below.
On 2026-07-05, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
Shame on you Leo. Everybody knows "You never put catsup on a hot
dog."
The picture was of my wife's hot dog. I'm a French's mustard and onions,
hot dog guy.
On 2026-07-06, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I agree, old cars are often not as good as new ones.
And often better. You used to have to pay attention to where you were driving. Now, one just stares at their car computer screen.
That should
never have happened. Oh, and lets bring back gas station road maps.
Folks, let's think again!
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 22:51:55 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
sid croft <andz@mar.ty> posted:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 05:23:18 +1000
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 19:12:37 GMT, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
Um, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and
roads need to be salted and the body of any car will
certainly rust. Has nothing to do with the car manufacturer
being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt, but
this one rotted out much faster than any other car I have had.
Cars are built better new. My CRV is now 13 years old and has
no rust.
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an >environment that was kind to car bodies. I've never had a car
built in the 60s or 70s that was rust free. I was always
applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was rust
free - probably because it was a California car. My 78 VW
Scirocco was the rustiest car I ever owned. It was horrible. It
was a wonderful car - I loved driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
Cars and guitars. Boys will be boys."Now it's guitars, Cadillacs, hillbilly music
Lonely, lonely streets that I call home
Yeah, my guitars, Cadillacs, hillbilly music
It's the only thing that keeps me hangin' on..."
I have heard of this "rockabilly." All the kids are listening to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz147m98jdQ
Page this:
https://youtu.be/66e2aF1Uw3E?list=RD66e2aF1Uw3E
Those old farts give me the creeps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R18qCKNLQdM
Rust free for how long?
Until the paint took a gravel chip.
Back in the 70s cars would have serious rust
damage within 4-5 years. My mother's old Buick lasted about 15 years
before the front end sort of gave out but there was no body rust to
speak of. My 2013 CRV is no body rust and it is sound down below.
So, are we talking about any rust, a little rust, or rotted-out
body panels?
I knew a guy whose frame rusted through. But that was a 1960s
Dodge Dart (IIRC).
sid croft <andz@mar.ty> posted:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 22:51:55 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
sid croft <andz@mar.ty> posted:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 05:23:18 +1000
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 19:12:37 GMT, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-05 6:44 p.m., jmquown wrote:
Um, you live in an area where there is a lot of snow and
roads need to be salted and the body of any car will
certainly rust. Has nothing to do with the car
manufacturer being Japanese.
Cars are indeed subject to corrosion caused by road salt,
but this one rotted out much faster than any other car I
have had. Cars are built better new. My CRV is now 13
years old and has no rust.
Cars in the old days always rusted - unless you lived in an >environment that was kind to car bodies. I've never had a car
built in the 60s or 70s that was rust free. I was always
applying Bondo to cars back in the day. The Mazda RX2 was
rust free - probably because it was a California car. My 78
VW Scirocco was the rustiest car I ever owned. It was
horrible. It was a wonderful car - I loved driving that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDBQOhiffo&t=280s
Cars and guitars. Boys will be boys."Now it's guitars, Cadillacs, hillbilly music
Lonely, lonely streets that I call home
Yeah, my guitars, Cadillacs, hillbilly music
It's the only thing that keeps me hangin' on..."
I have heard of this "rockabilly." All the kids are listening to
it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz147m98jdQ
Page this:
https://youtu.be/66e2aF1Uw3E?list=RD66e2aF1Uw3E
Those old farts give me the creeps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R18qCKNLQdM
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I had heard that gas prices in California was high back in the late 70's. We
moved there and I was driving a 72 Mazda RX2. That was a gas guzzler but fun
to drive. I wish I had one now. I was surprised that gas prices were high in
Las Vegas too. Does that seem right to you?
Western Nevada relies on California refineries. California refineries
have been hobbled and forced to comply with California rules and regs.
I live less than thirty miles from the Cali border. But! Our gas is way cheaper than yours. Damned oil tankers plus California gas equals your
oil prices. Let's not forget rules, regs and the general cost of living
in Hawaii. Vegas awaits, but I'd worry about water. Northern Nevada
rulez! We got everything Vegas has, plus way better scenery.
Unless you love Neon! Then they win.
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