Having only two hours sleep after the tree incident I went to bed really >early last night and caught up on the lost sleep. I was up and about at
7:30 and then sorted out my medication for the week. I was half way
through that when the power went out. I looked outside and say the tree
crew and an Ontario Hydro truck. I went out and talked to them and was
told that they were going to start taking the tree down. I pitied them >because it was already hot and humid. Then it suddenly cooled off,got
windy and then started to pour rain. They hid in their trucks. They
had told me they were only going to have the power off for hour hours >because it was too hot and people needed AC.
My wife came with me to the gym and we took her friend next door. We
figured we could kill a few hours and grab lunch on the way home. We got >home a little after noon and the power was back on. Apparently the crew
had left and may be back tomorrow or Monday but they need to get a much >bigger crane for this job. So... this tree has a short reprieve.
The good news for the tree crew is that this heat spell is supposed to
break and temperatures should drop to the high 70s.
Having only two hours sleep after the tree incident I went to bed really early last night and caught up on the lost sleep. I was up and about at
7:30 and then sorted out my medication for the week. I was half way through that when the power went out. I looked outside and say the tree
crew and an Ontario Hydro truck. I went out and talked to them and was told that they were going to start taking the tree down. I pitied them because it was already hot and humid. Then it suddenly cooled off,got windy and then started to pour rain. They hid in their trucks. They
had told me they were only going to have the power off for hour hours because it was too hot and people needed AC.
My wife came with me to the gym and we took her friend next door. We
figured we could kill a few hours and grab lunch on the way home. We got home a little after noon and the power was back on. Apparently the crew had left and may be back tomorrow or Monday but they need to get a much bigger crane for this job. So... this tree has a short reprieve.
The good news for the tree crew is that this heat spell is supposed to
break and temperatures should drop to the high 70s.
On 7/3/2026 9:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
The good news for the tree crew is that this heat spell is supposed to
break and temperatures should drop to the high 70s.
The neighborhood lucked out on that. Even four hours in heat is tough. Going out to someplace cool is smart.
The mayor of New York is asking people to set the AC at 78F. Makes
sense as it is better to be at 78 for the entire heatwave than set it at
70 and have a long massive power failure.
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that.
It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in
case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that
it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power
for those 4 days,
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that.
It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in
case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that
it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power
for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We had a large black walnut branch come down near the north
property line. We're suiting up to hitch it up to my CRV and
haul it to a more convenient location for breakdown. Then
we'll put it in the trailer, haul it to almost the same
location where we found it, and dump it in the wooded area
at the back of the property.
The mayor of New York is asking people to set the AC at 78F.
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:54:35 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Having only two hours sleep after the tree incident I went to bed
really early last night and caught up on the lost sleep. I was up
and about at 7:30 and then sorted out my medication for the week. I
was half way through that when the power went out. I looked outside
and say the tree crew and an Ontario Hydro truck. I went out and
talked to them and was told that they were going to start taking the
tree down. I pitied them because it was already hot and humid.
Then it suddenly cooled off,got windy and then started to pour rain.
They hid in their trucks. They had told me they were only going to
have the power off for hour hours
because it was too hot and people needed AC.
My wife came with me to the gym and we took her friend next door. We >figured we could kill a few hours and grab lunch on the way home. We
got home a little after noon and the power was back on. Apparently
the crew had left and may be back tomorrow or Monday but they need
to get a much bigger crane for this job. So... this tree has a
short reprieve. The good news for the tree crew is that this heat
spell is supposed to break and temperatures should drop to the high
70s.
Off topic again, Dave. Jill's fuming!
PS: Have you started dreaming of Julie again? You could ask her to
come back, you know.
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that.
It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in
case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that
it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power
for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 22:21:30 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
The mayor of New York is asking people to set the AC at 78F.
Typical Carter-grade socialism response.
Fuck his Muzzi arse straight back to HELL!
On 7/4/2026 12:48 PM, squillage wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 22:21:30 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
The mayor of New York is asking people to set the AC at 78F.
Typical Carter-grade socialism response.
Fuck his Muzzi arse straight back to HELL!
Sensibility offends you?
This morning I read 382,000 people are
without power.
I'd rather set my T-stat at 78 and be more
comfortable all day than setting it at 72 and bring down the grid for
the day.
On 7/4/2026 12:48 PM, squillage wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 22:21:30 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
The mayor of New York is asking people to set the AC at 78F.Typical Carter-grade socialism response.
Fuck his Muzzi arse straight back to HELL!
Sensibility offends you? This morning I read 382,000 people are without power. I'd rather set my T-stat at 78 and be more comfortable all day
than setting it at 72 and bring down the grid for the day.
On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 07:22:48 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that.
It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in >>> case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that >>> it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power
for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
We can't all ask our mother when we have a question.
On 2026-07-04 10:35 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We had a large black walnut branch come down near the north
property line. We're suiting up to hitch it up to my CRV and
haul it to a more convenient location for breakdown. Then
we'll put it in the trailer, haul it to almost the same
location where we found it, and dump it in the wooded area
at the back of the property.
Get to it quickly.
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Get to it quickly.
Done. My husband is not one to let the grass grow under his feet.
Well, cutting it up is done. Monday will be a little cooler; I'll
haul it to the back on Monday morning.
Ob Food: Too tired to make lunch, so we had Jersey Mike's.
#13 Mike's Way.
On 2026-07-04 5:38 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-07-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Get to it quickly.
Done. My husband is not one to let the grass grow under his feet.
Well, cutting it up is done. Monday will be a little cooler; I'll
haul it to the back on Monday morning.
Ob Food: Too tired to make lunch, so we had Jersey Mike's.
#13 Mike's Way.
If your weather is like ours today would have been a good time to deal
with it. It was bearable out there today. I had to stick around for the
Bell Telephone tech. He showed up at 10 am and was done by noon. While
he was working I mowed three sections of my lawn. I stayed away from
the front lawn because he was working there.
Gawd it's annoying dealing with their support line. The woman I was
dealing with asked 50 questions and wanted me to unplug my phones and
check the connections and plug them back in. What she should have done
is have me go outside to where the line is and follow the wire to the
end of it where it was severed and lying on the ground.
Curiously, the neighour to one side had phone trouble and the neighbour
on the other side has phone service bu not internet (also with Bell).
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that.
It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in >> case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that >> it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power
for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There have been proposals to build some but a lot of people are strongly opposed. I
don't blame them. I wonder of there is any way they can take advantage
of the incredible heat they produce. There has to be someway to
effectively recover that heat and perhaps pipe it some place where it
could be used to heat buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that. >>>> It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in >>>> case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that >>>> it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and >>>> then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power >>>> for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There have been
proposals to build some but a lot of people are strongly opposed. I
don't blame them. I wonder of there is any way they can take advantage
of the incredible heat they produce. There has to be someway to
effectively recover that heat and perhaps pipe it some place where it
could be used to heat buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need of power is going to drive the push towards nuclear energy production. Get ready for that.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that. >> >> It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in >> >> case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that >> >> it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power
for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There have been
proposals to build some but a lot of people are strongly opposed. I
don't blame them. I wonder of there is any way they can take advantage
of the incredible heat they produce. There has to be someway to
effectively recover that heat and perhaps pipe it some place where it
could be used to heat buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need of power is >going to drive the push towards nuclear energy production. Get ready for that.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that. >>>> It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in >>>> case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that >>>> it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and >>>> then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power >>>> for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There have been
proposals to build some but a lot of people are strongly opposed. I
don't blame them. I wonder of there is any way they can take advantage
of the incredible heat they produce. There has to be someway to
effectively recover that heat and perhaps pipe it some place where it
could be used to heat buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need of power is going to drive the push towards nuclear energy production. Get ready for that.
On 2026-07-04 9:30 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that. >>>> It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in
case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that >>>> it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out >>>> for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and >>>> then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power >>>> for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There have been
proposals to build some but a lot of people are strongly opposed. I
don't blame them. I wonder of there is any way they can take advantage
of the incredible heat they produce. There has to be someway to
effectively recover that heat and perhaps pipe it some place where it
could be used to heat buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need of power is
going to drive the push towards nuclear energy production. Get ready for that.
Ain't that dandy. Now they will have to have vast reserves of water to
cool the nuclear plants and vast reserves of water to cool the data centres.
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 01:30:33 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to suggest that. >> >> It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on power consumption in
case the power grid does crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that
it Ontario and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out >> >> for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and >> >> then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power
throughout the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power >> >> for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There have been >> proposals to build some but a lot of people are strongly opposed. I
don't blame them. I wonder of there is any way they can take advantage
of the incredible heat they produce. There has to be someway to
effectively recover that heat and perhaps pipe it some place where it
could be used to heat buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need of power is >going to drive the push towards nuclear energy production. Get ready for that.
What about solar plus batteries? The entire Australian outback is
available.
I like that idea. Your island
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It would be a
swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My guess is that Australia
could become the power company for the entire world. Where's E. Musk
when you need him?
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I like that idea. Your island
Continent. Not island.
Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by size,
plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It would be a
swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My guess is that Australia
could become the power company for the entire world. Where's E. Musk
when you need him?
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from
nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to
suggest that. It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on
power consumption in case the power grid does crash. I remember
the big blackout in 2003 that it Ontario and the north eastern
US. In some places the power was out for four days. We were
lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and then came back
on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had power throughout
the blackout while more than 50 million people had no power for
those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There have
been proposals to build some but a lot of people are strongly
opposed. I don't blame them. I wonder of there is any way they can
take advantage of the incredible heat they produce. There has to be
someway to effectively recover that heat and perhaps pipe it some
place where it could be used to heat buildings or perhaps provide
hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need of
power is going to drive the push towards nuclear energy production.
Get ready for that.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 9:30 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to
suggest that. It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on
power consumption in case the power grid does crash. I
remember the big blackout in 2003 that it Ontario and the
north eastern US. In some places the power was out for four
days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had
power throughout the blackout while more than 50 million
people had no power for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There
have been proposals to build some but a lot of people are
strongly opposed. I don't blame them. I wonder of there is any
way they can take advantage of the incredible heat they produce.
There has to be someway to effectively recover that heat and
perhaps pipe it some place where it could be used to heat
buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need
of power is going to drive the push towards nuclear energy
production. Get ready for that.
Ain't that dandy. Now they will have to have vast reserves of water
to cool the nuclear plants and vast reserves of water to cool the
data centres.
If you say so. I don't have any thoughts on the effects these systems
will have on the environment in the machine's never-ending hunger for
more power. They're similar to humans in that way. Humans want gold,
machines want watts.
To celebrate our nation's birthday, I'm eating a small frozen pizza.
They're quite good, actually.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QfqoFZAzkTeVVFBN8
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 01:30:33 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to
suggest that. It is a good idea to try to cut down a little
on power consumption in case the power grid does crash. I
remember the big blackout in 2003 that it Ontario and the
north eastern US. In some places the power was out for four
days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had
power throughout the blackout while more than 50 million
people had no power for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There
have been proposals to build some but a lot of people are
strongly opposed. I don't blame them. I wonder of there is any
way they can take advantage of the incredible heat they produce.
There has to be someway to effectively recover that heat and
perhaps pipe it some place where it could be used to heat
buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need
of power is going to drive the push towards nuclear energy
production. Get ready for that.
What about solar plus batteries? The entire Australian outback is available.I like that idea. Your island has a lot of empty space, sun, and
hardly any people. It would be a swell spot for nuclear/solar power
plants. My guess is that Australia could become the power company for
the entire world. Where's E. Musk when you need him?
https://neutronbytes.com/2025/05/07/google-plans-three-600-mw-nuclear-projects-for-data-centers/
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I like that idea. Your island
Continent. Not island.
Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by size,
plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It would be a
swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My guess is that
Australia could become the power company for the entire world.
Where's E. Musk when you need him?
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from
nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square miles) of
outback could provide all of Australia's energy needs using solar
energy. Anything beyond that could be exported. But the problem is
getting the energy to where the demand is (Sydney, Melbourne,
Singapore, Jakarta etc).
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I like that idea. Your island
Continent. Not island.
Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by size,
plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It would be a
swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My guess is that Australia
could become the power company for the entire world. Where's E. Musk
when you need him?
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from
nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square miles) of
outback could provide all of Australia's energy needs using solar
energy. Anything beyond that could be exported. But the problem is
getting the energy to where the demand is (Sydney, Melbourne,
Singapore, Jakarta etc).
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from
nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square miles) of
outback could provide all of Australia's energy needs using solar
energy. Anything beyond that could be exported. But the problem is
getting the energy to where the demand is (Sydney, Melbourne,
Singapore, Jakarta etc).
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical. Australia should
go for the gold standard of power generation i.e., nuclear power. The future >will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't say if the Western world even knows >how to build these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 19:50:54 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from
nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square miles) of
outback could provide all of Australia's energy needs using solar
energy. Anything beyond that could be exported. But the problem is
getting the energy to where the demand is (Sydney, Melbourne,
Singapore, Jakarta etc).
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical. Australia should
go for the gold standard of power generation i.e., nuclear power. The future
will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't say if the Western world even knows
how to build these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
You're a fan of nuclear, I know. I'm not. I prefer solar and wind. And
the outback has a lot of solar. They could easily afford a permanent maintenance crew from all the money they'd make. There are deserts in
the US too, of course.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I like that idea. Your island
Continent. Not island.
Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by size,
plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It would
be a swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My guess is that
Australia could become the power company for the entire world.
Where's E. Musk when you need him?
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from
nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square miles) of outback could provide all of Australia's energy needs using solar
energy. Anything beyond that could be exported. But the problem is
getting the energy to where the demand is (Sydney, Melbourne,
Singapore, Jakarta etc).
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation i.e.,
nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't
say if the Western world even knows how to build these facilities any
more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 07:40:23 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 9:30 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to
suggest that. It is a good idea to try to cut down a little on
power consumption in case the power grid does crash. I
remember the big blackout in 2003 that it Ontario and the
north eastern US. In some places the power was out for four
days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about an hour and
then came back on. About half of the Niagara peninsula had
power throughout the blackout while more than 50 million
people had no power for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There
have been proposals to build some but a lot of people are
strongly opposed. I don't blame them. I wonder of there is any
way they can take advantage of the incredible heat they produce.
There has to be someway to effectively recover that heat and
perhaps pipe it some place where it could be used to heat
buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their need
of power is going to drive the push towards nuclear energy
production. Get ready for that.
Ain't that dandy. Now they will have to have vast reserves of water
to cool the nuclear plants and vast reserves of water to cool the
data centres.
If you say so. I don't have any thoughts on the effects these systems
will have on the environment in the machine's never-ending hunger for
more power. They're similar to humans in that way. Humans want gold, machines want watts.
To celebrate our nation's birthday, I'm eating a small frozen pizza. They're quite good, actually.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QfqoFZAzkTeVVFBN8
+1 but needs some blue.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 19:50:54 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical. Australia should
go for the gold standard of power generation i.e., nuclear power. The future
will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't say if the Western world even knows
how to build these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
You're a fan of nuclear, I know. I'm not. I prefer solar and wind. And
the outback has a lot of solar. They could easily afford a permanent
maintenance crew from all the money they'd make. There are deserts in
the US too, of course.
Most people are not fans of nuclear power but I'm the kind of guy that doesn't >let fear and anxiety cloud my thinking. I'm a facts based kind of guy.
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 19:50:54 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I like that idea. Your island
Continent. Not island.
Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by size,
plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It would
be a swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My guess is that
Australia could become the power company for the entire world.
Where's E. Musk when you need him?
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from
nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square miles) of outback could provide all of Australia's energy needs using solar
energy. Anything beyond that could be exported. But the problem is getting the energy to where the demand is (Sydney, Melbourne,
Singapore, Jakarta etc).
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation i.e.,
nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't
say if the Western world even knows how to build these facilities any
more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
Unless or until solar is used widely to compress air for nighttime and
peak load turbine generation solar will be an expensive partial energy solution.
https://youtu.be/VS05y9mQgbw
How Compressed Air Batteries are FINALLY Here.
We can’t control the weather (yet). But we can
control how we store weather-dependent renewable energy. By making use
of salt caves, former mining sites, and depleted gas wells, compressed
air energy storage can be an effective understudy when wind or solar
aren’t available. It has the potential to offer longer-duration storage that other technologies can’t for a lower capital investment.
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation i.e.,
nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't
say if the Western world even knows how to build these facilities any
more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 07:40:23 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 9:30 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-07-04 7:22 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
Apparently some people think he a communist for daring to
suggest that. It is a good idea to try to cut down a
little on power consumption in case the power grid does
crash. I remember the big blackout in 2003 that it Ontario
and the north eastern US. In some places the power was out
for four days. We were lucky. Our power went out for about
an hour and then came back on. About half of the Niagara
peninsula had power throughout the blackout while more
than 50 million people had no power for those 4 days,
you do understand that much of the current risks and
problems with many of the power grids is due to completely
ignorant expansion of data centers BS for more AI BS?
They are meeting increasing opposition here in Ontario. There
have been proposals to build some but a lot of people are
strongly opposed. I don't blame them. I wonder of there is
any way they can take advantage of the incredible heat they
produce. There has to be someway to effectively recover that
heat and perhaps pipe it some place where it could be used
to heat buildings or perhaps provide hot water for homes.
It appears that the proliferation of data centers and their
need of power is going to drive the push towards nuclear
energy production. Get ready for that.
Ain't that dandy. Now they will have to have vast reserves of
water to cool the nuclear plants and vast reserves of water to
cool the data centres.
If you say so. I don't have any thoughts on the effects these
systems will have on the environment in the machine's
never-ending hunger for more power. They're similar to humans in
that way. Humans want gold, machines want watts.
To celebrate our nation's birthday, I'm eating a small frozen
pizza. They're quite good, actually.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QfqoFZAzkTeVVFBN8
+1 but needs some blue.
Achieving the blue color in foods is not easy. Things would be a lot
easier flag/food wise if we were Italian - or would it?
https://ourzestylife.com/margherita-pizza-recipe/
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 19:50:54 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid>
posted:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I like that idea. Your island
Continent. Not island.
Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by size,
plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It
would be a swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My
guess is that Australia could become the power company for
the entire world. Where's E. Musk when you need him?
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from
nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square
miles) of outback could provide all of Australia's energy needs
using solar energy. Anything beyond that could be exported. But
the problem is getting the energy to where the demand is
(Sydney, Melbourne, Singapore, Jakarta etc).
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation
i.e., nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did. OTOH,
I can't say if the Western world even knows how to build these
facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
Unless or until solar is used widely to compress air for nighttime
and peak load turbine generation solar will be an expensive partial
energy solution.
https://youtu.be/VS05y9mQgbw
How Compressed Air Batteries are FINALLY Here.
We can’t control the weather (yet). But we can
control how we store weather-dependent renewable energy. By making
use of salt caves, former mining sites, and depleted gas wells,
compressed air energy storage can be an effective understudy when
wind or solar aren’t available. It has the potential to offer longer-duration storage that other technologies can’t for a lower
capital investment.
The project in Spain filed, followed by the California one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiPSy2bKZkE
Using molten salt to store heat energy seems like a pretty good,
scaleable, technology. It seems simple and efficient - but is it?
https://www.cosinsolar.com/En/product/energy.html
On 7/5/2026 4:52 PM, squillage wrote:
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation i.e.,
nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't
say if the Western world even knows how to build these facilities
any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
We should all try to conserve the finite materials so they last.
Meantime, the Orange guy is stopping other sources of power such as
wind and solar and pushing coal and oil.
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Most people are not fans of nuclear power but I'm the kind of guy that doesn't
let fear and anxiety cloud my thinking. I'm a facts based kind of guy.
What do we do about the waste?
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 17:23:42 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/5/2026 4:52 PM, squillage wrote:
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation i.e.,
nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't
say if the Western world even knows how to build these facilities
any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
We should all try to conserve the finite materials so they last.
We already have.
We're sitting on 400 years of untapped coal reserves!
Meantime, the Orange guy is stopping other sources of power such as
wind and solar and pushing coal and oil.
No, he's refusing to SUBSIDIZE them, big difference right there.
You're a fan of nuclear, I know. I'm not. I prefer solar and wind. And
the outback has a lot of solar. They could easily afford a permanent
maintenance crew from all the money they'd make. There are deserts in
the US too, of course.
Most people are not fans of nuclear power but I'm the kind of guy that doesn't
let fear and anxiety cloud my thinking. I'm a facts based kind of guy.
What do we do about the waste?
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 21:08:36 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 19:50:54 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid>
posted:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I like that idea. Your island
Continent. Not island.
Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by size,
plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It
would be a swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My
guess is that Australia could become the power company for
the entire world. Where's E. Musk when you need him?
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity from >nuclear power due to long-standing legal prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square
miles) of outback could provide all of Australia's energy needs
using solar energy. Anything beyond that could be exported. But
the problem is getting the energy to where the demand is
(Sydney, Melbourne, Singapore, Jakarta etc).
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical. Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation
i.e., nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did. OTOH,
I can't say if the Western world even knows how to build these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
Unless or until solar is used widely to compress air for nighttime
and peak load turbine generation solar will be an expensive partial energy solution.
https://youtu.be/VS05y9mQgbw
How Compressed Air Batteries are FINALLY Here.
We can’t control the weather (yet). But we can
control how we store weather-dependent renewable energy. By making
use of salt caves, former mining sites, and depleted gas wells, compressed air energy storage can be an effective understudy when
wind or solar aren’t available. It has the potential to offer longer-duration storage that other technologies can’t for a lower capital investment.
Using molten salt to store heat energy seems like a pretty good,
scaleable, technology. It seems simple and efficient - but is it?
https://www.cosinsolar.com/En/product/energy.html
The project in Spain filed, followed by the California one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiPSy2bKZkE
On 7/5/2026 5:40 PM, squillage wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 17:23:42 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/5/2026 4:52 PM, squillage wrote:
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation
i.e., nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did.
OTOH, I can't say if the Western world even knows how to build
these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
We should all try to conserve the finite materials so they last.
We already have.
We're sitting on 400 years of untapped coal reserves!
Meantime, the Orange guy is stopping other sources of power such as
wind and solar and pushing coal and oil.
No, he's refusing to SUBSIDIZE them, big difference right there.What do you call this?
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/doe-announces-850m-modernize-coal-capacity-build-new-plants/822109/
https://www.edf.org/media/trump-administration-pour-even-more-taxpayer-money-costly-unreliable-coal-plants
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 21:08:36 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 19:50:54 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid>
posted:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
wrote:
I like that idea. Your island
Continent. Not island.
Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by
size, plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It
would be a swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My
guess is that Australia could become the power company
for the entire world. Where's E. Musk when you need him?
Australia currently generates no commercial electricity
from nuclear power due to long-standing legal
prohibitions.
AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square
miles) of outback could provide all of Australia's energy
needs using solar energy. Anything beyond that could be
exported. But the problem is getting the energy to where
the demand is (Sydney, Melbourne, Singapore, Jakarta etc).
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems
impractical. Australia should go for the gold standard of
power generation i.e., nuclear power. The future will be glad
that they did. OTOH, I can't say if the Western world even
knows how to build these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
Unless or until solar is used widely to compress air for
nighttime and peak load turbine generation solar will be an
expensive partial energy solution.
https://youtu.be/VS05y9mQgbw
How Compressed Air Batteries are FINALLY Here.
We can’t control the weather (yet). But we can
control how we store weather-dependent renewable energy. By
making use of salt caves, former mining sites, and depleted gas
wells, compressed air energy storage can be an effective
understudy when wind or solar aren’t available. It has the
potential to offer longer-duration storage that other
technologies can’t for a lower capital investment.
Yeah, change of phase and the mirror concentration looks damned
Using molten salt to store heat energy seems like a pretty good, scaleable, technology. It seems simple and efficient - but is it?
https://www.cosinsolar.com/En/product/energy.html
The project in Spain filed, followed by the California one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiPSy2bKZkE
I saw one of these plants while flying through Nevada. It might have
been a failure but it was the most beautiful sight that I ever saw.
The pilot never said a word about it. My guess is that he didn't care
for it. Perhaps it interfered with planes flying through.
On 7/5/2026 5:40 PM, squillage wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 17:23:42 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/5/2026 4:52 PM, squillage wrote:
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation i.e.,
nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did. OTOH, I can't
say if the Western world even knows how to build these facilities
any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
We should all try to conserve the finite materials so they last.
We already have.
We're sitting on 400 years of untapped coal reserves!
Meantime, the Orange guy is stopping other sources of power such as
wind and solar and pushing coal and oil.
No, he's refusing to SUBSIDIZE them, big difference right there.
What do you call this?
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/doe-announces-850m-modernize-coal-capacity-build-new-plants/822109/
https://www.edf.org/media/trump-administration-pour-even-more-taxpayer-money-costly-unreliable-coal-plants
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:Are they "pals"?
On 7/5/2026 5:40 PM, squillage wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 17:23:42 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/5/2026 4:52 PM, squillage wrote:
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation
i.e., nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did.
OTOH, I can't say if the Western world even knows how to build
these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
We should all try to conserve the finite materials so they last.
We already have.
We're sitting on 400 years of untapped coal reserves!
Meantime, the Orange guy is stopping other sources of power such
as wind and solar and pushing coal and oil.
No, he's refusing to SUBSIDIZE them, big difference right there.What do you call this?
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/doe-announces-850m-modernize-coal-capacity-build-new-plants/822109/
https://www.edf.org/media/trump-administration-pour-even-more-taxpayer-money-costly-unreliable-coal-plants
I'd call it just another scam. Trump gives his pals contracts to
build stuff so they can make government money.
Obviously, Trump gets some kickbacks.Should be rather easy to document then, have you?
Trump doesn't care about the oil and coal industries.Then by definition they would not be his "pals".
It's all about government contract money.Like Newscum's high speed rail disaster in Cali?
Trump considers governmentIf true, how is that different from any other administration?
money his own to hand out to his most loyal patrons.
It's a mosthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19HMSKClAdw
amazing thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdYGQ7B0Vew
What do we do about the waste?
On 2026-07-05, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
What do we do about the waste?
Fire it into space. Just make sure the rocket is guaranteed.
Nevada has plenty of room for nuclear waste. Been there, done that.
Australia has plenty of room for nuclear waste.
Uninhabited areas, anywhere in the World.
Or...come up with a way to use it commercially. That would be a
winner.
If we don't kill ourselves beforehand, nuclear is the way to go.
On 2026-07-05, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
What do we do about the waste?
Fire it into space. Just make sure the rocket is guaranteed.
Nevada has plenty of room for nuclear waste. Been there, done that.
I'm sure your fellow Nevadans would welcome more of it. We recently
blocked a nearby landfill from accept any more radioactive waste.
<https://apnews.com/article/radioactive-waste-blocked-wayne-disposal-landfill-db47eb8a79ec49764da28b55f1774f5f>
On 2026-07-07, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
What do we do about the waste?
Fire it into space. Just make sure the rocket is guaranteed.
Ah, hah, hah, hah, hah. Guaranteed. Good one, Leo.
Why should we litter space with our waste? Space junk in low-Earth
orbit is bad enough, let alone making space our garbage dump.
Nevada has plenty of room for nuclear waste. Been there, done that.
I'm sure your fellow Nevadans would welcome more of it. We recently
blocked a nearby landfill from accept any more radioactive waste. <https://apnews.com/article/radioactive-waste-blocked-wayne-disposal-landfill-db47eb8a79ec49764da28b55f1774f5f>
On 2026-07-07 4:56 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-07-07, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-05, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
What do we do about the waste?
Fire it into space. Just make sure the rocket is guaranteed.
Ah, hah, hah, hah, hah. Guaranteed. Good one, Leo.
Why should we litter space with our waste? Space junk in low-Earth
orbit is bad enough, let alone making space our garbage dump.
It costs money to send stuff into space. It takes a lot of rocket power
and fuel burned and the more weight you send up the more fuel it takes. Uranium is really heavy, and the vessels that contain it are really
heavy. Imagine the ecological disaster if the rocket failed and spent
fuel was scattered across a large area.
Imagine the ecological disaster if the rocket failed and spent
fuel was scattered across a large area.
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 20:45:54 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
On 7/5/2026 5:40 PM, squillage wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 17:23:42 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/5/2026 4:52 PM, squillage wrote:
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems impractical.
Australia should go for the gold standard of power generation
i.e., nuclear power. The future will be glad that they did.
OTOH, I can't say if the Western world even knows how to build
these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
We should all try to conserve the finite materials so they last.
We already have.
We're sitting on 400 years of untapped coal reserves!
Meantime, the Orange guy is stopping other sources of power such
as wind and solar and pushing coal and oil.
No, he's refusing to SUBSIDIZE them, big difference right there.What do you call this?
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/doe-announces-850m-modernize-coal-capacity-build-new-plants/822109/
https://www.edf.org/media/trump-administration-pour-even-more-taxpayer-money-costly-unreliable-coal-plants
I'd call it just another scam. Trump gives his pals contracts to
build stuff so they can make government money.
Are they "pals"?
We recall how Joe Biden got a Fisker Karma factory opened in Delaware,
then they went bankrupt!
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/energys-risky-1-billion-bet-on-two-politically-connected-electric-car-builders/
Energy Department ‘bet’ on Fisker Automotive ends in bankruptcy
By Ronnie Greene
November 27, 2013
Standing in a shuttered General Motors plant in Wilmington, Del., Vice President Joe Biden heralded a half-billion-dollar Department of Energy loan that would transform the idled site into a production line for electric cars.
“Folks, we’re making a bet,” Biden said on Oct. 27, 2009. “We’re making a bet in the future, we’re making a bet in the American people, we’re making a bet in the market, we’re making a bet in innovation.”
That loan is part of a $1 billion bet the Energy Department has made on
two politically connected California electric carmakers producing
sporty — and pricey — cutting-edge autos. One is Fisker Automotive, the project heralded by Biden and backed by a powerhouse venture capital
firm whose partners include former Vice President Al Gore and a
campaign donor to President Obama. The other is Tesla Motors, whose
prime backers include a major fundraiser for Obama and Google
co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
Obviously, Trump gets some kickbacks.
Should be rather easy to document then, have you?
"Trump's Defense and Recent Public FrictionThe Trump administration
firmly maintains that these actions are not corrupt favors, but rather
vital steps to achieve "American energy dominance," lower consumer
energy bills, and save domestic jobs.Interestingly, as the war in Iran
pushed national gas prices past $4.00 a gallon in June 2026, Trump
attempted to distance himself from corporate collusion by publicly
accusing major oil companies (such as ExxonMobil and Chevron) of price gouging. He ordered the DOJ to investigate them for not lowering pump prices—a move that political opponents like Representative Adam Schiff blasted as a disingenuous attempt to deflect blame from his own pro-fossil-fuel policies."
That said, fossil fuel producers were big contributors to his campaigns.
Maybe all these infrastructure plays are corrupted acts then?
AI Overview
The Trump administration’s approach to
infrastructure centers on aggressive deregulation, executive actions to accelerate federal permitting, and an emphasis on private sector-led technology and energy investments, rather than traditional large-scale federal spending packages.Key elements of this infrastructure agenda include:Data Centers and AI Buildout: President Trump signed directives
aimed at drastically reducing permitting bottlenecks for large-scale
data center projects and expanding energy capacity. This approach
helped catalyze massive corporate commitments, such as Google’s $25
billion investment in data centers.Housing and Space: The
administration has worked to remove regulatory barriers to affordable
home construction by reforming National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) requirements. Executive orders were also issued to expedite permits for commercial space launch sites.Regulatory Streamlining: Central to his philosophy is the reduction of construction and planning costs. The administration consistently targets environmental and water-related permitting processes to facilitate quicker infrastructure rollouts
across several sectors.For comprehensive updates on current
infrastructure initiatives and executive actions, you can check the
official White House Issues platform.
Trump doesn't care about the oil and coal industries.
Then by definition they would not be his "pals".
It's all about government contract money.
Like Newscum's high speed rail disaster in Cali?
Trump considers government
money his own to hand out to his most loyal patrons.
If true, how is that different from any other administration?
How many of Obammy's green energy companies went bankrupt _after_
taking our money?
https://www.facebook.com/JoshGuillory2023/posts/obamas-green-energy-gamble-turned-into-a-22-billion-taxpayer-backed-messivanpah-/1391031196176349/
Obama’s green energy gamble turned into a $2.2 billion taxpayer-backed mess.
Ivanpah was supposed to be the future of solar energy. Instead, it got a $1.6 billion federal loan guarantee, a $539 million Treasury grant.
$730 million to $780 million still remains on the loan.
The plant underperformed. The technology got passed by cheaper solar. PG&E wanted out. Officials under Trump and Biden supported shutting it down. California regulators said no.
So taxpayers helped build it. Ratepayers may have to keep paying for it.
And the same politicians who pushed this mess still lecture the rest of
us about “smart investments.”
https://www.cato.org/blog/solyndra-case-study-green-energy-cronyism-failure-central-planning
Solyndra’s leaders engaged in a “pattern of false and misleading assertions” that drew a rosy picture of their company enjoying robust sales while they lobbied to win the first clean energy loan the new administration awarded in 2009, a lengthy investigation uncovered. The Silicon Valley start-up’s dramatic rise and then collapse into bankruptcy two years later became a rallying cry for critics of President Obama’s signature program to create jobs by injecting billions of dollars into clean energy firms.
And why would it become such a rallying cry for critics? Well, consider the hyperlink the Post inserted at that point in the article: “[Past coverage: Solyndra: Politics infused Obama energy programs]” And what did that article report?
Meant to create jobs and cut reliance on foreign oil, Obama’s green-technology program was infused with politics at every level, The Washington Post found in an analysis of thousands of memos, company records and internal e‑mails. Political considerations were raised repeatedly by company investors, Energy Department bureaucrats and White House officials.
The records, some previously unreported, show that when warned that
financial disaster might lie ahead, the administration remained
steadfast in its support for Solyndra.
It's a most
amazing thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdYGQ7B0Vew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19HMSKClAdw
Electric car battery maker, A123 Systems Inc., is filing for
bankruptcy, after receiving $249 MILLION dollars in stimulus money,
that was borrowed from China, and over a $100 MILLION in tax breaks.
A123 Systems is another risky investment added to the long list of
failing "green energy" companies that was endorsed by Barack Obama.
I won't be playing the blame game. That's kid stuff. I don't care who or what >our president is - Republican/Democrat, left/right. I only require that this >person do his job i.e., protect and defend the Constitution of the United >States and follow the laws of the land. Is that too much to ask for?
sid croft <andz@mar.ty> posted:
Electric car battery maker, A123 Systems Inc., is filing for
bankruptcy, after receiving $249 MILLION dollars in stimulus money,
that was borrowed from China, and over a $100 MILLION in tax breaks.
A123 Systems is another risky investment added to the long list of
failing "green energy" companies that was endorsed by Barack Obama.
I won't be playing the blame game. That's kid stuff. I don't care who or what our president is - Republican/Democrat, left/right. I only require that this person do his job i.e., protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and follow the laws of the land. Is that too much to ask for?
sid croft <andz@mar.ty> posted:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 20:45:54 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
On 7/5/2026 5:40 PM, squillage wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 17:23:42 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/5/2026 4:52 PM, squillage wrote:
Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems
impractical. Australia should go for the gold standard of
power generation i.e., nuclear power. The future will be
glad that they did. OTOH, I can't say if the Western world
even knows how to build these facilities any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q
China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal
and oil demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil
resources.
We should all try to conserve the finite materials so they
last.
We already have.
We're sitting on 400 years of untapped coal reserves!
Meantime, the Orange guy is stopping other sources of power
such as wind and solar and pushing coal and oil.
No, he's refusing to SUBSIDIZE them, big difference rightWhat do you call this?
there.
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/doe-announces-850m-modernize-coal-capacity-build-new-plants/822109/
https://www.edf.org/media/trump-administration-pour-even-more-taxpayer-money-costly-unreliable-coal-plants
I'd call it just another scam. Trump gives his pals contracts to
build stuff so they can make government money.
Are they "pals"?
We recall how Joe Biden got a Fisker Karma factory opened in
Delaware, then they went bankrupt!
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/energys-risky-1-billion-bet-on-two-politically-connected-electric-car-builders/
Energy Department ‘bet’ on Fisker Automotive ends in bankruptcy
By Ronnie Greene
November 27, 2013
Standing in a shuttered General Motors plant in Wilmington, Del.,
Vice President Joe Biden heralded a half-billion-dollar Department
of Energy loan that would transform the idled site into a
production line for electric cars.
“Folks, we’re making a bet,” Biden said on Oct. 27, 2009. “We’re making a bet in the future, we’re making a bet in the American
people, we’re making a bet in the market, we’re making a bet in innovation.”
That loan is part of a $1 billion bet the Energy Department has
made on two politically connected California electric carmakers
producing sporty — and pricey — cutting-edge autos. One is Fisker Automotive, the project heralded by Biden and backed by a
powerhouse venture capital firm whose partners include former Vice President Al Gore and a campaign donor to President Obama. The
other is Tesla Motors, whose prime backers include a major
fundraiser for Obama and Google co-founders Larry Page and Sergey
Brin.
Obviously, Trump gets some kickbacks.
Should be rather easy to document then, have you?
"Trump's Defense and Recent Public FrictionThe Trump administration
firmly maintains that these actions are not corrupt favors, but
rather vital steps to achieve "American energy dominance," lower
consumer energy bills, and save domestic jobs.Interestingly, as the
war in Iran pushed national gas prices past $4.00 a gallon in June
2026, Trump attempted to distance himself from corporate collusion
by publicly accusing major oil companies (such as ExxonMobil and
Chevron) of price gouging. He ordered the DOJ to investigate them
for not lowering pump prices—a move that political opponents like Representative Adam Schiff blasted as a disingenuous attempt to
deflect blame from his own pro-fossil-fuel policies."
That said, fossil fuel producers were big contributors to his
campaigns.
Maybe all these infrastructure plays are corrupted acts then?
Uniparty prefers we focus that way.AI Overview
The Trump administration’s approach to
infrastructure centers on aggressive deregulation, executive
actions to accelerate federal permitting, and an emphasis on
private sector-led technology and energy investments, rather than traditional large-scale federal spending packages.Key elements of
this infrastructure agenda include:Data Centers and AI Buildout:
President Trump signed directives aimed at drastically reducing
permitting bottlenecks for large-scale data center projects and
expanding energy capacity. This approach helped catalyze massive
corporate commitments, such as Google’s $25 billion investment in
data centers.Housing and Space: The administration has worked to
remove regulatory barriers to affordable home construction by
reforming National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) requirements.
Executive orders were also issued to expedite permits for
commercial space launch sites.Regulatory Streamlining: Central to
his philosophy is the reduction of construction and planning costs.
The administration consistently targets environmental and
water-related permitting processes to facilitate quicker
infrastructure rollouts across several sectors.For comprehensive
updates on current infrastructure initiatives and executive
actions, you can check the official White House Issues platform.
Trump doesn't care about the oil and coal industries.
Then by definition they would not be his "pals".
It's all about government contract money.
Like Newscum's high speed rail disaster in Cali?
Trump considers government
money his own to hand out to his most loyal patrons.
If true, how is that different from any other administration?
How many of Obammy's green energy companies went bankrupt _after_
taking our money?
https://www.facebook.com/JoshGuillory2023/posts/obamas-green-energy-gamble-turned-into-a-22-billion-taxpayer-backed-messivanpah-/1391031196176349/
Obama’s green energy gamble turned into a $2.2 billion
taxpayer-backed mess. Ivanpah was supposed to be the future of
solar energy. Instead, it got a $1.6 billion federal loan
guarantee, a $539 million Treasury grant. $730 million to $780
million still remains on the loan. The plant underperformed. The
technology got passed by cheaper solar. PG&E wanted out. Officials
under Trump and Biden supported shutting it down. California
regulators said no. So taxpayers helped build it. Ratepayers may
have to keep paying for it. And the same politicians who pushed
this mess still lecture the rest of us about “smart investments.”
https://www.cato.org/blog/solyndra-case-study-green-energy-cronyism-failure-central-planning
Solyndra’s leaders engaged in a “pattern of false and misleading assertions” that drew a rosy picture of their company enjoying
robust sales while they lobbied to win the first clean energy loan
the new administration awarded in 2009, a lengthy investigation
uncovered. The Silicon Valley start-up’s dramatic rise and then
collapse into bankruptcy two years later became a rallying cry for
critics of President Obama’s signature program to create jobs by injecting billions of dollars into clean energy firms.
And why would it become such a rallying cry for critics? Well,
consider the hyperlink the Post inserted at that point in the
article: “[Past coverage: Solyndra: Politics infused Obama energy programs]” And what did that article report?
Meant to create jobs and cut reliance on foreign oil, Obama’s green-technology program was infused with politics at every level,
The Washington Post found in an analysis of thousands of memos,
company records and internal e‑mails. Political considerations
were raised repeatedly by company investors, Energy Department
bureaucrats and White House officials.
The records, some previously unreported, show that when warned that financial disaster might lie ahead, the administration remained
steadfast in its support for Solyndra.
It's a most
amazing thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdYGQ7B0Vew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19HMSKClAdw
Electric car battery maker, A123 Systems Inc., is filing for
bankruptcy, after receiving $249 MILLION dollars in stimulus money,
that was borrowed from China, and over a $100 MILLION in tax breaks.
A123 Systems is another risky investment added to the long list of
failing "green energy" companies that was endorsed by Barack Obama.
I won't be playing the blame game. That's kid stuff.
I don't care whoI do, given the left has done their level best to turn this nation
or what our president is - Republican/Democrat, left/right.
I only require that this person do his job i.e., protect and defendAfter 12 years of Obamunism?
the Constitution of the United States and follow the laws of the
land. Is that too much to ask for?
On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 18:03:30 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I won't be playing the blame game. That's kid stuff. I don't care
who or what our president is - Republican/Democrat, left/right. I
only require that this person do his job i.e., protect and defend
the Constitution of the United States and follow the laws of the
land. Is that too much to ask for?
You're dumber than I thought.
On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 18:03:30 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I won't be playing the blame game. That's kid stuff. I don't care who or what
our president is - Republican/Democrat, left/right. I only require that this >> person do his job i.e., protect and defend the Constitution of the United
States and follow the laws of the land. Is that too much to ask for?
You're dumber than I thought.
On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 18:03:30 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I won't be playing the blame game. That's kid stuff. I don't care who or what
our president is - Republican/Democrat, left/right. I only require that this >>person do his job i.e., protect and defend the Constitution of the United >>States and follow the laws of the land. Is that too much to ask for?
You're dumber than I thought.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne wrote on 7/7/2026 1:21 PM:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 18:03:30 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I won't be playing the blame game. That's kid stuff. I don't care who or what
our president is - Republican/Democrat, left/right. I only require that this
person do his job i.e., protect and defend the Constitution of the United >>> States and follow the laws of the land. Is that too much to ask for?
You're dumber than I thought.
Uncle Tojo is VERY smart about da Hiwayans!
And excellent at running his big mouth. It's always set to full AUTO-FIRE.
On other matters, he's as dimwitted and useless as they come. A real turd.
On 2026-07-05, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
What do we do about the waste?
Fire it into space. Just make sure the rocket is guaranteed.
Nevada has plenty of room for nuclear waste. Been there, done that.
Australia has plenty of room for nuclear waste.
Uninhabited areas, anywhere in the World.
Or...come up with a way to use it commercially. That would be a winner.
If we don't kill ourselves beforehand, nuclear is the way to go.
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