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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 10:09:45 -0000
Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

In article <20251129153236.4cb2074d@z-z>, bubbles@in.valid
says...

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 04:33:05 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 10:23:29 -0500, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-29 6:47 a.m., Janet wrote:

In article <10geh0k$38dkp$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...

I go to court and have her declared incompetent or she gets
into health trouble again, I think I'm stuck. Every week
when I go there I hope to find her peacefully dead in her
sleep.

If my family find me not quite dead/ barely alive, I
don't want to be saved.

Do you have anything like this?

We do a little better than that here. We have medically assisted
death. If you meet the criteria you can apply for then to put you
out of your misery. I know a couple people who had it done.

In UK we have a thing called Power of Attorney, where
the holder (while they still have mental capacity)
designates a legal representative to speak for them
if/when they become incompetent.

https://www.gov.uk/power-of-attorney

We hold POA for each other and the sons will hold it for
the last survivor. It guarantees that in extremis, family
retain control of health welfare and finance needs. Mine
is paired with a Medical Directive listing the conditions
in which I refuse permission for resuscitation or life-
prolonging medical intervention.

The UK is behind with this (and not just this). Canada, the
Netherlands and even Australia have legal euthanasia. The UK does
not.

Yet, but it will happen.

The Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill has been
passed by the House of Commons and is currently being
debated and watered down :-( in the House of Lords.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj41j8qlz95o

I'm all for legal euthenasia (and until we get it,
illegal euthenasia for those willing, which does of course
go on).

Janet UK

You are prisoners of a Muzzi caliphate masquerading as migrants.

They will come for you with knives and cleavers. https://x.com/GemmaTognini/status/1960568048240488943
“Dont f*cking touch my little sister. She’s 12”
Just catching up on this story.
A young girl, fending off a sexual predator is arrested for having a knife.
The man, is then arrested and charged w sexual offenses
The most chilling part of the video is hearing her little voice screaming - dont fking touch my little sister.
What has happened to the UK
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 21:33:24 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 10:26:08 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Why do rednecks always think that every last day of someone's life
has to be lived through, even if there's only suffering left? Is
this another Christian hangup or are they afraid their relatives
will kill them prematurely for the inheritance?

We all are God's property. Who are we to take matters into our
own hands?

Sorry. I almost didn't get through typing those two sentences
without emesis.

Anyway, that's pretty much engrained in our culture. Attempted
suicide was a crime in early American law. The last such law
(in Maryland) was repealed in 2019. I imagine it has been a long
time since attempted suicide was prosecuted.

And now that I've googled about suicide and followed some of the
links, I'll have busybody bots following me all over the web
offering crisis counseling.

I can understand that people have religious principles about things
like euthanasia. And nobody should force them to act against those principles. But why do they want to force other people to live (or
die) according to their religious ideas?

The root of all modern lawmaking is born of religion, like it or not -
code of Hammurabi for example.

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On 2025-11-30 1:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 20:08:09 -0500

Have you lived with a dying parent or spouse? Saw them in constant
pain beyond any medical help? Held their hand? Hospice care? It IS
for, not against.

Yes, yes, yes, and sadly yes.

Hospice is a choice for the patient to make.

My SiL survived a lot longer than we had expected after having been
diagnosed with liver and pancreatic cancer. She had been spending days
at a hospice getting ready for the end. As her condition worsened she
would spend a few days there once in a while but had planned to check
out of this world at the hospice. She ended up at home for a while and
then things took a turn for the worst and she was hauled off to the
hospital for to deal with the pain. She then wanted to go to the
hospice for the end stage but that didn't happen. There was some policy
in place that the hospice didn't admit people from the hospital so she
ended up having to go to a palliative care hospital.

I was never sure about that palliative care hospital. One of our
neighbors was a nurse who worked there and once boasted to me that when
they get new patients arrive the first thing they do is get them off all
their pain medication. She said it was the medication that killed them.
I didn't understand the problem. They are dying and they are in pain. It
made a lot more sense to me to ease their pain and reduce the time they
would be suffering. And who cares if they get addicted to the opiates if
they aren't going to be around long anyway.


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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 08:43:46 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 5:33 AM, Bruce wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 10:26:08 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Why do rednecks always think that every last day of someone's
life has to be lived through, even if there's only suffering
left? Is this another Christian hangup or are they afraid their
relatives will kill them prematurely for the inheritance?

We all are God's property. Who are we to take matters into our
own hands?

Sorry. I almost didn't get through typing those two sentences
without emesis.

Anyway, that's pretty much engrained in our culture. Attempted
suicide was a crime in early American law. The last such law
(in Maryland) was repealed in 2019. I imagine it has been a long
time since attempted suicide was prosecuted.

And now that I've googled about suicide and followed some of the
links, I'll have busybody bots following me all over the web
offering crisis counseling.

I can understand that people have religious principles about things
like euthanasia. And nobody should force them to act against those principles. But why do they want to force other people to live (or
die) according to their religious ideas?

Because their religion is the right one, everyone else is wrong.
To learn more about this, please donate to my church

Here, this may help you out:
AI Overview
Behold! The kingdom of God is within you.” : r/nonduality
The phrase "the kingdom of God is within you" comes from Luke 17:21 of the Bible, where Jesus tells the Pharisees that the kingdom of God does not come with visible observation. This statement can be interpreted in three ways: as an internal spiritual reality within a believer's heart, as being "among" or "in your midst" because of Jesus's presence, or as being "within your reach" through one's choices. The translation and interpretation can depend on whether you prioritize the most literal meaning or consider the broader context of Jesus speaking to a hostile audience.
Interpretation 1: Internal spiritual reality
Meaning: The kingdom of God is a present, inner spiritual reality where God reigns in the hearts of believers.
Reasoning: This aligns with other teachings about the kingdom, like a seed growing or yeast working through dough.
Interpretation 2: "Among you" or "in your midst"
Meaning: The kingdom was present in Jesus's own ministry—his miracles, teachings, and his very presence among the Pharisees.
Reasoning: Many scholars favor this translation because Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees, who were not embracing his message and were unlikely to have the kingdom "inside" them. His presence, and the miracles he performed, were proof that God's kingdom had already begun on earth.
Interpretation 3: "Within your reach"
Meaning: The kingdom is within one's reach and can be entered by making the right choices and submitting to God's rule.
Reasoning: This interpretation combines the internal and "among you" perspectives, suggesting that the opportunity for the kingdom is present in the world through Jesus, but an individual must choose to accept it.
Conclusion
The most likely meaning is a combination of the second and third interpretations, where Jesus is declaring that the kingdom of God has already arrived through his presence and ministry, and that the "within you" aspect is an invitation to accept and embrace the kingdom through faith and a changed heart.
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:17:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 15:07:11 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

But... but... the Bible! And Jesus suffered too! And... and... God!
Yes, God and Jesus and the Bible! And Sunday school! Yes, that's it!

Call it a "field effect" if you wish, however:

https://www.oprah.com/own-podcasts/larry-dossey-the-extraordinary-healing-power-of-ordinary-things

Physician and New York Times best-selling author Larry Dossey discusses
the power of prayer, what to pray for and how to pray to get the best >results.

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja, nobody's
stopping you.
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 10:59:41 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 9:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

That's not necessary. I've always paid the vet to come
to the house. No doubt that's an option in the USA.

Probably not everywhere.

Not needed. Use the Kristi Noem method. Do you have a gun?

You seem plagued by a 'political only' view blinder too.
Horse around with this one. https://www.westsidespirit.com/news/carriage-horse-dies-in-hell-s-kitchen-sparks-animal-rights-debate-CM4934466
animal rights activists are furious at local coach drivers.
Meanwhile, Transport Workers Union Local 100–which represents organized carriage workers in the city–is trying to convince others that their way of making a living is caring and professional, and spurred by a love of the creatures.
The tragic and untimely demise of 15-year-old Lady occurred at around 2:30pm on Aug. 5. She collapsed a mere block away from the stable where she was housed on West 52nd Street, known as Clinton Park Stables. City Council Member Erik Bottcher, a vociferous opponent of the carriage trade, was pictured with a look of utter disgust upon arrival at the scene.
On Aug. 8, a medical examiner revealed that Lady had perished due to a “small tumor” in her adrenal gland rupturing her aorta, a spokesperson for the TWU told Straus News. They described this event as a “sudden and ‘silent killer’ event that typically comes without warning symptoms.”
”The pathologist’s report does not include any observations indicating neglect or abuse. In fact, the pathologist who evaluated Lady’s weight, coat, and muscle tone wrote she was ‘in good body condition,’ ” the TWU spokesperson added.
The incident comes hot on the heels of the high-profile acquittal of coachman Ian McKeever, who was facing animal-abuse charges in connection with the death of a Standardbred horse named Ryder, who collapsed in a eerily similar manner on West 45th Street back in August 2022.
McKeever, who had been driving coach since immigrating from Ireland in the 1980s, was filmed by bystanders whipping the exhausted horse and tugging on its reins; Ryder perished not long after. A medical examiner determined that the horse was very ill when the incident occurred, which appeared to have some effect on jurors; McKeever also testified, in his defense, that he had treated the horse well and believed that it was healthy.
Animal rights activists pointedly held a rally in front of Clinton Park Stables the day after Lady’s death, on Aug. 6, where they were joined by a host of politicians from across the ideological spectrum. A protester in a horse mask lay down on the ground, while another protester poured fake blood on them. PETA was in attendance.
Most notably, the protesters were joined by Queens City Council Member Robert Holden, a right-leaning Democrat who has introduced a bill called “Ryder’s Law”–named after the horse that died in 2022–that seeks to ban coach driving in NYC entirely. The rally appeared to be generally organized around advocating for the bill’s passage.
”They don’t care about horses, or they wouldn’t work them to death,” Holden said. “They work the horses to death . . . and it’s sickening!”
The official mayoral candidate of the Republican party and founder of the Guardian Angels, Curtis Sliwa, showed up as well. He called Lady’s death “another needless casualty in the horse-drawn-carriage world.” He called coach driving “barbaric,” adding that it has been banned in other cities and countries.
Left-leaning politicians such as Bottcher and City Council Member Christopher Marte were there as well. “Enough is enough. The people are demanding action,” Marte said.
However, coach drivers are hoping that others will become convinced by the passion of their vocation, and push for reform instead of abolition. In fact, TWU recently announced they were considering suing Sliwa for defamation.
”This was a tragic and sad loss, and we are all mourning Lady’s death,”
a spokesperson for TWU told Straus News. They added that the
politicians at the rally had “repeatedly [demonized] blue-collar carriage-horse drivers, many of whom chose their line of work because
they love animals and want to spend their days with them.”
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 10:08:40 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 4:09 AM, Janet wrote:

I'm all for legal euthenasia (and until we get it,
illegal euthenasia for those willing, which does of course
go on).

I'm all for decriminalizing pentobarbital.>

Janet UK

How dumb would that be?

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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:01:46 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 9:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

That's not necessary. I've always paid the vet to come
to the house. No doubt that's an option in the USA.

Probably not everywhere.

Not needed. Use the Kristi Noem method. Do you have a gun?

I have a gun, but not a pet.

That leaves you and destiny then.

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On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 05:34:22 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:17:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 15:07:11 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

But... but... the Bible! And Jesus suffered too! And... and... God!
Yes, God and Jesus and the Bible! And Sunday school! Yes, that's
it!

Call it a "field effect" if you wish, however:

https://www.oprah.com/own-podcasts/larry-dossey-the-extraordinary-healing-power-of-ordinary-things

Physician and New York Times best-selling author Larry Dossey
discusses the power of prayer, what to pray for and how to pray to
get the best results.

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja, nobody's
stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of prayer
you will be left alone to do so. https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/power_of_prayer_on_plants
Can prayer make plants grow faster and bigger? Skeptics think it laughable, scientists find it irrelevant, and farmers tend to rely on more mundane methods to increase their crops. But the Rev. Franklin Loehr is convinced that the answer is yes, and has just written a book, "The Power of Prayer on Plants," to tell why.
After five years and 900 experiments, the 46-year-old Presbyterian minister reports he and 150 members of his prayer group found that prayed-for wheat and corn seeds grew into bigger seedlings than ones which got no prayer or outright negative prayer. Commenting on their methods last week in his Los Angeles home, Mr. Loehr explained that they used every kin of prayer and found every one effective to a degree.
"There were silent and spoken prayers," he continued, "those to loved ones, and the humble prayer straight to God. But mostly people just talked to the plants, loved them, or scolded them. First I tried buddying up to them, and then I observed that the people getting better results were approaching the plants on their own level of consciousness."
Picking up a copy of the book, he pointed to the jacket, which shows a lone, stunted shoot on the no-prayer side of an experimental seedbed. "He wasn't supposed to be there," explained Mr. Loehr, "so we blighted him with three bursts of negative command."
Mr. Loehr dropped the experiments two years ago, having persuaded
himself, at least, of their validity. He is now concentrating on "soul dynamics" prayer for people—not, of course, to make them grow faster
and bigger. "The fact is," he concluded, "we used plants to test prayer
just as the artificial heart is tested in dogs instead of humans."
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:47:28 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 05:34:22 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:17:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

Call it a "field effect" if you wish, however:

https://www.oprah.com/own-podcasts/larry-dossey-the-extraordinary-healing-power-of-ordinary-things

Physician and New York Times best-selling author Larry Dossey
discusses the power of prayer, what to pray for and how to pray to
get the best results.

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja, nobody's
stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of prayer
you will be left alone to do so.

Pray away, son. Enjoy! May all your prayers come true!
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 05:56:13 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:47:28 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 05:34:22 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:17:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

Call it a "field effect" if you wish, however:

https://www.oprah.com/own-podcasts/larry-dossey-the-extraordinary-healing-power-of-ordinary-things

Physician and New York Times best-selling author Larry Dossey
discusses the power of prayer, what to pray for and how to pray to
get the best results.

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja,
nobody's stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of prayer
you will be left alone to do so.

Pray away, son. Enjoy! May all your prayers come true!

And why not, even if just means bigger beans!

Placebo up, what's to lose?


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On 2025-11-30 11:56 a.m., Bruce wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:47:28 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 05:34:22 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:17:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

Call it a "field effect" if you wish, however:

https://www.oprah.com/own-podcasts/larry-dossey-the-extraordinary-healing-power-of-ordinary-things

Physician and New York Times best-selling author Larry Dossey
discusses the power of prayer, what to pray for and how to pray to
get the best results.

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja, nobody's
stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of prayer
you will be left alone to do so.

Doble blind? You mean the blind leading the blind.
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On 2025-11-30 4:20 p.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 11:56 a.m., Bruce wrote:

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja, nobody's
stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of prayer
you will be left alone to do so.

Doble blind? You mean the blind leading the blind.

This link might be too long to work but you can Google Anthony Jeselnik
and his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

https://www.google.com/search?q=anthony+jeselnik+sending+prayers+and+thoughts&num=10&sca_esv=d1f9300491861e4c&sxsrf=AE3TifNTOEbcKKJtQX1FZ2PP8Ae1xIM2qQ%3A1764538135946&ei=F7csadvGObCm0PEPx-GB0Qw&oq=anthony+jeselnik+sending+pr&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiG2FudGhvbnkgamVzZWxuaWsgc2VuZGluZyBwcioCCAAyBRAhGJ8FMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwUyBRAhGJ8FSKg2UPgFWNsacAB4ApABAJgB5wGgAZELqgEGMC4xMC4xuAEByAEA-AEBmAIMoAL0C8ICBBAAGEfCAgoQLhiABBhDGIoFwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICChAuGIAEGBQYhwLCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIFEAAYgATCAgUQLhiABMICBhAAGBYYHsICCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAgUQIRigAcICBxAhGKABGAqYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwYxLjEwLjGgB5hAsgcGMC4xMC4xuAftC8IHBzAuNS40LjPIB0I&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:a9034bd5,vid:PTmCxbcRXs4,st:0
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 14:20:33 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 11:56 a.m., Bruce wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:47:28 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 05:34:22 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:17:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

Call it a "field effect" if you wish, however:

https://www.oprah.com/own-podcasts/larry-dossey-the-extraordinary-healing-power-of-ordinary-things

Physician and New York Times best-selling author Larry Dossey
discusses the power of prayer, what to pray for and how to pray
to get the best results.

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja,
nobody's stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of
prayer you will be left alone to do so.

Doble blind? You mean the blind leading the blind.

Do the homework.
No hand holding please: https://www.knowewell.com/written-content/healing-power-prayer-conversation-larry-dossey
Dossey says that there is so much evidence about how effective prayer is that it’s difficult to refute. Hungry for information early in his career, Dossey pored through research and was inspired by renowned psychologist and author Lawrence LeShan. Considered “The Father of Mind-Body Therapy,” LeShan studied distance healing as related to science more thoroughly than anyone. According to Dossey, LeShan puts the relationship of prayer and healing into a theoretical basis that goes beyond strictly religious connotations.
“I thought, well, if this helps people, we ought to be using prayer in conjunction with medicine.”
“I got in on this area of investigation fairly late,” said Dossey. “There are a lot of people who beat me to this. Lawrence LeShan was a PhD psychologist who died in November 2020 at the ripe age of 100. He’s been an inspiration to me.”
LeShan collaborated with Henry Margenau, chairman of the Physics Department at Yale University and one of the most important philosophers of physics of his generation. According to Dossey, LeShan and Margenau were able to use philosophies of physics to prove the power of prayer.
“One of the reasons why I recommend LeShan is that he’s been a transdisciplinary scholar who just hasn't settled on the healing component but united it with what's going on in the realms of physics in the 20th century,” said Dossey. “His material is very powerful.”
According to Dossey, the medical community is missing a critical component in the healing process by not integrating prayer into the process. “I think it’s a shame that in our so-called scientific age, we say that healing with prayer is not possible and don’t even pay any attention to it,” said Dossey. “That’s false. If this is not scientific, then nothing is. The studies were done in randomized, controlled environments in hospitals and clinics. And the only reason people don’t want to pay attention to it is because of their belief systems. They’ve made up their minds that this can’t happen, this doesn’t happen, and they don’t care about the evidence.”
Dossey says that combining distant, remote, prayer-based healings with concepts of quantum physics that have been implemented over the past century is incredibly effective. “We live in a new world view, which most people haven’t woken up to,” said Dossey. “Most people prefer the old ideas of the 18th and 19th centuries. That’s a shame because it deprives people of the healing force that is real and can be used to help people get well.”
Dossey says it’s ironic how his medical revelations brought him back to his roots. “I grew up in a Southern Baptist community where prayer was just sort of in the water,” he said. “I didn’t really take it seriously until I got involved with looking at some of the research that’s been done with some of the healing and prayer and that’s where many of my books originated. So, this is really a theoretical issue for me. It's one that’s deeply personal.”
Since the start of his career, Dossey has written thirteen books and numerous articles. He is the former executive editor of the peer-reviewed journal Alternative Therapies in Health and Medicine and is currently executive editor of the peer-reviewed journal Explore: The Journal of Science and Healing. He has become an internationally influential advocate of the role of the mind in health and the role of spirituality in healthcare.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11993014/
Abstract
Arising from an emerging world view in philosophy, it is argued that
the mind can function beyond the individual and is not constrained by
time and distance; it is in fact non-local. Prayer is cited as an
example of non-local manifestation of consciousness. Dossey describes
three distinct eras of medicine. The hallmark of Era 3 is the non-local
mind and unexplained discoveries of distant healing and intercessory
prayer. In researching the medical literature, Dossey discovered 130
studies dealing with the efficacy of prayer as a healing treatment.
Those studies disclosed that prayer had a remarkable effect not only on
human beings, but also on many other things including bacteria,
germinating seeds and animals. Some cases of distant manifestation of consciousness on non-humans are discussed en passant, but the focus of
this paper is the healing power of intercessory prayer on humans. Two
case studies are offered in support of the evidence for non-local
healing and the question is asked whether there is no place in medicine
for a multiple approach to healing. Further, if these reported studies
of prayer therapies are meaningful, are physicians not using these
additional treatments withholding something curative from their
patients?
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.
So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would they?
Next.
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On 2025-11-30 5:21 p.m., lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would they?

Next.

Whoosh. They aren't praying for others. They are only drawing attention
to themselves.


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On 11/30/2025 5:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would they?

Next.

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered thoughts
and prayers.
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On 2025-11-30 6:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:

On 11/30/2025 5:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would they?

Next.

Correct, but they would say they did.  LOOK AT ME, I offered thoughts
and prayers.

It's the same deal with the Amber Alerts. Some people get pissed off
about being besieged with the alerts and then there are people whining
that the complainers would want them issued if it was their child or grandchild that was missing. They send their thoughts and prayers when
the alerts sound, but they don't stop whatever they are doing and go out
and help look for the subject of the alert.


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On 11/30/2025 3:36 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

On 2025-11-30 4:20 p.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 11:56 a.m., Bruce wrote:

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja, nobody's >>>>> stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of prayer
you will be left alone to do so.

Doble blind? You mean the blind leading the blind.

This link might be too long  to work but you can Google Anthony Jeselnik and his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

https://www.google.com/search? q=anthony+jeselnik+sending+prayers+and+thoughts&num=10&sca_esv=d1f9300491861e4c&sxsrf=AE3TifNTOEbcKKJtQX1FZ2PP8Ae1xIM2qQ%3A1764538135946&ei=F7csadvGObCm0PEPx-GB0Qw&oq=anthony+jeselnik+sending+pr&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiG2FudGhvbnkgamVzZWxuaWsgc2VuZGluZyBwcioCCAAyBRAhGJ8FMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwUyBRAhGJ8FSKg2UPgFWNsacAB4ApABAJgB5wGgAZELqgEGMC4xMC4xuAEByAEA-AEBmAIMoAL0C8ICBBAAGEfCAgoQLhiABBhDGIoFwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICChAuGIAEGBQYhwLCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIFEAAYgATCAgUQLhiABMICBhAAGBYYHsICCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAgUQIRigAcICBxAhGKABGAqYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwYxLjEwLjGgB5hAsgcGMC4xMC4xuAftC8IHBzAuNS40LjPIB0I&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:a9034bd5,vid:PTmCxbcRXs4,st:0

OK, when both Dave Smith and me agree, that should turn heads. Jeselnik
is hilarious.
--
--Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
-- Cindy Hamilton
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On 11/30/2025 4:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would they?

Next.

I think what he was saying is that narcissists *claim* to pray, but
don't. Also, that is only one definition. You are deliberately trying to mislead. Are you a MAGA?
--
--Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
-- Cindy Hamilton
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:50:02 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 5:21 p.m., lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and
prayers on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would
they?

Next.

Whoosh. They aren't praying for others. They are only drawing
attention to themselves.

Omniscience is among your lesser known traits?
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:30:44 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 5:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and
prayers on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would
they?

Next.

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered thoughts
and prayers.

One more mind reader?
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:57:39 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 4:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and
prayers on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would
they?

Next.

I think what he was saying is that narcissists *claim* to pray, but
don't. Also, that is only one definition. You are deliberately trying
to mislead. Are you a MAGA?

Are you an NGO supporter?
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:07:53 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:30:44 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered thoughts
and prayers.

One more mind reader?

Joan takes the bible so literally that she thinks angels get a yearly
safety check to see if their wings are working properly. I thought
nobody would be able to beat that. But now we have a guy who thinks
that the effect of prayer can be objectively measured and proven.
Americans FTW!
--
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On 11/30/2025 8:07 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:30:44 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 5:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and
prayers on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would
they?

Next.

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered thoughts
and prayers.

One more mind reader?

Experience and observation
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On 2025-11-30 8:47 p.m., Ed P wrote:

On 11/30/2025 8:07 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:30:44 -0500

Correct, but they would say they did.  LOOK AT ME, I offered thoughts
and prayers.

One more mind reader?

Experience and observation

Some people object to the term "virtue signalling" but that is what it
is. It is a public statement intended to show how virtuous they think
they are but which involves no actual assistance or contribution of any
type.
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On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith wrote:

If I get to that point I would prefer [...]
instead of forcing me to endure more and more pain

My wife knew two people (Uncle & sister's FiL)
who essentially suicided by fasting a few weeks.

Uncle had broken his neck (quadra-P). Other ended
up in a 'long-term' facility, and nodody could
visit due to Covid restrictions.

Neither in pain, but both lucent &c.

Latter was classified 'death by Covid'
because there was enough going around.


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On 2025-11-30 2:36 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

On 2025-11-30 4:20 p.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 11:56 a.m., Bruce wrote:

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja, nobody's >>>>> stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of prayer
you will be left alone to do so.

Doble blind? You mean the blind leading the blind.

This link might be too long  to work but you can Google Anthony Jeselnik and his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

https://www.google.com/search? q=anthony+jeselnik+sending+prayers+and+thoughts&num=10&sca_esv=d1f9300491861e4c&sxsrf=AE3TifNTOEbcKKJtQX1FZ2PP8Ae1xIM2qQ%3A1764538135946&ei=F7csadvGObCm0PEPx-GB0Qw&oq=anthony+jeselnik+sending+pr&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiG2FudGhvbnkgamVzZWxuaWsgc2VuZGluZyBwcioCCAAyBRAhGJ8FMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwUyBRAhGJ8FSKg2UPgFWNsacAB4ApABAJgB5wGgAZELqgEGMC4xMC4xuAEByAEA-AEBmAIMoAL0C8ICBBAAGEfCAgoQLhiABBhDGIoFwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICChAuGIAEGBQYhwLCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIFEAAYgATCAgUQLhiABMICBhAAGBYYHsICCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAgUQIRigAcICBxAhGKABGAqYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwYxLjEwLjGgB5hAsgcGMC4xMC4xuAftC8IHBzAuNS40LjPIB0I&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:a9034bd5,vid:PTmCxbcRXs4,st:0

A physical manifestation of this is people leaving bunches of flowers at
the site of a tragedy or where they think appropriate. Think of the huge
dump outside Buck House for Diana and now the growing heap by the towers
in Hong Kong.
It must be primordial. It's certainly senseless.
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On 11/30/2025 7:10 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:57:39 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 4:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and
prayers on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would
they?

Next.

I think what he was saying is that narcissists *claim* to pray, but
don't. Also, that is only one definition. You are deliberately trying
to mislead. Are you a MAGA?

Are you an NGO supporter?

Only a fascist would reply that way. You are likely a Russian troll. You stupid cunt. You even use a Russian name. Most Russians are so stupid
that they believe that they are too stupid to exist without strongmen
ruling them. You exploit the stupidity of racist Americans. Russian motherfucker, you should have your balls kicked for hours for maximum
pain, then have them cut off and put into an American prison to be raped
while the guards ignore your screams.

Anyone else here think that "lomonosov" isn't a Russian tool? Every
reasonable American, Canadian, European, Australian, New Zealander, and
the rest of the First World citizens should know that the leadership of
Russia is the enemy of the rest of us. They're even the enemy of the
Russian people.

The predatory capitalists in the First World are bad, but Russia is that
shit squared. Slava Ukraini. Putin should be tortured to death very
slowly. Slava Ukraini.
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--Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

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"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
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On 2025-11-30 9:50 p.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 2:36 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

On 2025-11-30 4:20 p.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 11:56 a.m., Bruce wrote:

If you want to dance around a totem pole yelling Halleluja, nobody's >>>>>> stopping you.

If you want to ignore the double blind studies on the power of prayer >>>>> you will be left alone to do so.

Doble blind? You mean the blind leading the blind.

This link might be too long  to work but you can Google Anthony
Jeselnik and his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts
and prayers on social media.

https://www.google.com/search?
q=anthony+jeselnik+sending+prayers+and+thoughts&num=10&sca_esv=d1f9300491861e4c&sxsrf=AE3TifNTOEbcKKJtQX1FZ2PP8Ae1xIM2qQ%3A1764538135946&ei=F7csadvGObCm0PEPx-GB0Qw&oq=anthony+jeselnik+sending+pr&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiG2FudGhvbnkgamVzZWxuaWsgc2VuZGluZyBwcioCCAAyBRAhGJ8FMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwUyBRAhGJ8FSKg2UPgFWNsacAB4ApABAJgB5wGgAZELqgEGMC4xMC4xuAEByAEA-AEBmAIMoAL0C8ICBBAAGEfCAgoQLhiABBhDGIoFwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICChAuGIAEGBQYhwLCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIFEAAYgATCAgUQLhiABMICBhAAGBYYHsICCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAgUQIRigAcICBxAhGKABGAqYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwYxLjEwLjGgB5hAsgcGMC4xMC4xuAftC8IHBzAuNS40LjPIB0I&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:a9034bd5,vid:PTmCxbcRXs4,st:0

A physical manifestation of this is people leaving bunches of flowers at
the site of a tragedy or where they think appropriate. Think of the huge
dump outside Buck House for Diana and now the growing heap by the towers
in Hong Kong.
It must be primordial. It's certainly senseless.

I was in Paris in 1999 and stayed in a hotel that was around the corner
from the Flame of Liberty that was co-opted as a memorial to Lady Di .
It was a mess of flowers and posters and messages.



A few years earlier and closer to home we had a fatal motorcycle
accident two houses down from us. The motorcyclist was totally at fault
but must have been fairly popular at his high school because dozens of students would be hanging around at the little shrine they had erected
in our neighbour's yard. The neighbour did not appreciate it, kicked
them off her property and took down the shrine.


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On 11/30/2025 9:50 PM, Graham wrote:

A physical manifestation of this is people leaving bunches of flowers at
the site of a tragedy or where they think appropriate. Think of the huge
dump outside Buck House for Diana and now the growing heap by the towers
in Hong Kong.
It must be primordial. It's certainly senseless.

Not just flowers, often stuffed animals.

Couple of months ago, about a 1/3 mile from here four young people were running from police and went into a tree. The one wearing a seat belt survived.
Flowers and some stuffed animals were on scene for a couple of weeks.
In spite of that, they still remained dead. Grounds crew clear it up.
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 21:30:42 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 7:10 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:57:39 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

I think what he was saying is that narcissists *claim* to pray, but
don't. Also, that is only one definition. You are deliberately trying
to mislead. Are you a MAGA?

Are you an NGO supporter?

Only a fascist would reply that way. You are likely a Russian troll. You >stupid cunt. You even use a Russian name. Most Russians are so stupid
that they believe that they are too stupid to exist without strongmen
ruling them. You exploit the stupidity of racist Americans. Russian >motherfucker, you should have your balls kicked for hours for maximum
pain, then have them cut off and put into an American prison to be raped >while the guards ignore your screams.

Ghe ghe. Bryan vs. trollie. The Internet equivalent of a bum fight.
--
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On 2025-11-30 8:45 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

A physical manifestation of this is people leaving bunches of flowers at
the site of a tragedy or where they think appropriate. Think of the huge
dump outside Buck House for Diana and now the growing heap by the
towers in Hong Kong.
It must be primordial. It's certainly senseless.

I was in Paris in 1999 and stayed in a hotel that was around the corner
from the Flame of Liberty that was co-opted as a memorial to Lady Di .
It was a mess of flowers and posters and messages.

A few years earlier and closer to home we had a fatal motorcycle
accident two houses down from us. The motorcyclist was totally at fault
but must have been fairly popular at his high school because dozens of students would be hanging around at the little shrine they had erected
in our neighbour's yard.  The neighbour did not appreciate it, kicked
them off her property and took down the shrine.

They certainly are an eyesore. I just don't understand it.
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On 2025-11-30 9:06 p.m., Ed P wrote:

On 11/30/2025 9:50 PM, Graham wrote:

A physical manifestation of this is people leaving bunches of flowers at
the site of a tragedy or where they think appropriate. Think of the huge
dump outside Buck House for Diana and now the growing heap by the
towers in Hong Kong.
It must be primordial. It's certainly senseless.

Not just flowers, often stuffed animals.

Couple of months ago, about a 1/3 mile from here four young people were running from police and went into a tree.  The one wearing a seat belt survived.
Flowers and some stuffed animals were on scene for a couple of weeks. In spite of that, they still remained dead.  Grounds crew clear it up.

Here, the city takes a moderately relaxed attitude and will remove
the memorials after a certain time. The problem is that some families
will erect a bricks and mortar one on city property and play merry hell
when it's removed.
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On 2025-11-30 11:15 p.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 8:45 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

A few years earlier and closer to home we had a fatal motorcycle
accident two houses down from us. The motorcyclist was totally at
fault but must have been fairly popular at his high school because
dozens of students would be hanging around at the little shrine they
had erected in our neighbour's yard.  The neighbour did not appreciate
it, kicked them off her property and took down the shrine.

They certainly are an eyesore. I just don't understand it.

Stuff like that has become a bit of an issue around here. Every once in
a while someone will post on FaceBook about someone removing or defacing
a road side memorial, and most of the time the person who is being
honoured by the memorial was the author of their own fate.

That was certainly the case of the one who crashed his motorcycle in
front of our neighbours. I was not present when it happened but it was
the beginning of motorcycle season. I used to get home around 3:45 and
withing 5-10 minutes this crotch rocket would come flying down the road
doing 70-80 mph (30 mph zone). It went on every day for about a week
and a half. Then one day he collided head on with a car coming the other
way.
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On 2025-11-30 11:17 p.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 9:06 p.m., Ed P wrote:

Couple of months ago, about a 1/3 mile from here four young people
were running from police and went into a tree.  The one wearing a seat
belt survived.
Flowers and some stuffed animals were on scene for a couple of weeks.
In spite of that, they still remained dead.  Grounds crew clear it up.

Here, the city takes a moderately relaxed attitude and will remove
the memorials after a certain time. The problem is that some families
will erect a bricks and mortar one on city property and play merry hell
when it's removed.

They go for the public pity party over something they had no right to
do. It is public property. Most people would buy a plot in a cemetery.

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On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 12:14:28 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:07:53 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:30:44 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered
thoughts and prayers.

One more mind reader?

Joan takes the bible so literally that she thinks angels get a yearly
safety check to see if their wings are working properly. I thought
nobody would be able to beat that. But now we have a guy who thinks
that the effect of prayer can be objectively measured and proven.
Americans FTW!

Did and done, at least the latter.

Call it anything but admit it works.

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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 20:47:10 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 8:07 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:30:44 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 5:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and
prayers on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would
they?

Next.

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered
thoughts and prayers.

One more mind reader?

Experience and observation

Projection and confirmation bias.
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 21:30:42 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 7:10 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:57:39 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 4:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and
prayers on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would
they?

Next.

I think what he was saying is that narcissists *claim* to pray, but
don't. Also, that is only one definition. You are deliberately
trying to mislead. Are you a MAGA?

Are you an NGO supporter?

Only a fascist would reply that way. You are likely a Russian troll.

Oh my, Sergey?
Do we know this slunk?

You stupid cunt. You even use a Russian name. Most Russians are so
stupid that they believe that they are too stupid to exist without
strongmen ruling them. You exploit the stupidity of racist Americans.
Russian motherfucker, you should have your balls kicked for hours for
maximum pain, then have them cut off and put into an American prison
to be raped while the guards ignore your screams.

That's interesting.

Anyone else here think that "lomonosov" isn't a Russian tool? Every reasonable American, Canadian, European, Australian, New Zealander,
and the rest of the First World citizens should know that the
leadership of Russia is the enemy of the rest of us. They're even the
enemy of the Russian people.

The predatory capitalists in the First World are bad, but Russia is
that shit squared. Slava Ukraini. Putin should be tortured to death
very slowly. Slava Ukraini.

How many billions more for WWZ?
+useful idjit applies+
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 15:08:01 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 21:30:42 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 7:10 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:57:39 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

I think what he was saying is that narcissists *claim* to pray,
but don't. Also, that is only one definition. You are
deliberately trying to mislead. Are you a MAGA?

Are you an NGO supporter?

Only a fascist would reply that way. You are likely a Russian troll.
You stupid cunt. You even use a Russian name. Most Russians are so
stupid that they believe that they are too stupid to exist without >strongmen ruling them. You exploit the stupidity of racist
Americans. Russian motherfucker, you should have your balls kicked
for hours for maximum pain, then have them cut off and put into an
American prison to be raped while the guards ignore your screams.

Ghe ghe. Bryan vs. trollie. The Internet equivalent of a bum fight.

Barfly.

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On 2025-11-30, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 5:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and prayers
on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would they?

Next.

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered thoughts
and prayers.

As it happens, there's a Bible verse on this topic. Matthew 6:5-6.
--
Cindy Hamilton
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On 2025-12-01, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

A physical manifestation of this is people leaving bunches of flowers at
the site of a tragedy or where they think appropriate. Think of the huge
dump outside Buck House for Diana and now the growing heap by the towers
in Hong Kong.
It must be primordial. It's certainly senseless.

I pray (heh) that nobody crashes in my yard and dies. I'd be out
there as often as necessary, removing the cenotaph.
--
Cindy Hamilton
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In article <10ght6m$h5ec$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 10:32 a.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 8:08 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

It's definitely a service for large animals. If you have a dog or cat >>> they will put it down and cremate the body.... for a price.� Our
propery is large enough that we have been able to bury a number of pets. >>>
I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a whole
other story because then you have to dispose of the body. City folks
may not realize it but in farm country there are companies that
specialize in removing and disposing of dead animals.

In England they are called "knackers".

When I was a kid knakers were testicles. That left me wondering about English people who said they were knackered.

Knackered is not a reference to testicles so it's a
non-gendered adjective. Women get/feel knackered too (
exhausted, worn out, broken) derived from knacker v.
meaning to "destroy/ break down".

Probably malformed from "nadgers", which is actual

British slang.

Knackers is also actual British slang for testicles.

Nadgers ( slang for testicles)is derived from gonads.
Ovaries are also gonads but not many people know that.

Sorry chaps, your testicles are not the centre of the
universe after all.

Janet UK


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In article <10gh640$864k$1@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...

On 2025-11-30, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 20:08:09 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/29/2025 5:34 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 12:34:02 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

Nothing cruel about it. I'm not ready to go, but that is the best
way and how I hope to go.
Do you have a better method?

Pray for her, not against her.

Have you lived with a dying parent or spouse? Saw them in constant pain >>beyond any medical help? Held their hand? Hospice care? It IS for, not >>against.

Why do rednecks always think that every last day of someone's life has
to be lived through, even if there's only suffering left? Is this
another Christian hangup or are they afraid their relatives will kill
them prematurely for the inheritance?

We all are God's property. Who are we to take matters into our
own hands?

Sorry. I almost didn't get through typing those two sentences
without emesis.

Anyway, that's pretty much engrained in our culture. Attempted
suicide was a crime in early American law. The last such law
(in Maryland) was repealed in 2019. I imagine it has been a long
time since attempted suicide was prosecuted.

Suicide was decriminalised here in 1961. But third
party "aiding and encouraging a suicide" still is a crime
in UK, carrying a sentence up to 14 years. Which has been
a worry for friends or family who accompany dying Brits
to Switzerland to buy a medical suicide at Dignitas. (aka
"suicide tourism")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_(non-
profit_organisation)

And now that I've googled about suicide and followed some of the
links, I'll have busybody bots following me all over the web
offering crisis counseling.

More likely, they'll follow you around offering to sell
you the best way to do it.

Janet UK


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On 2025-12-01 5:30 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered thoughts
and prayers.

As it happens, there's a Bible verse on this topic. Matthew 6:5-6.

Bingo. That's a good one for all the people who whine about public
prayer. The entity they think they are praying to disapproves of it.

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On 2025-12-01 5:33 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2025-12-01, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

A physical manifestation of this is people leaving bunches of flowers at
the site of a tragedy or where they think appropriate. Think of the huge
dump outside Buck House for Diana and now the growing heap by the towers
in Hong Kong.
It must be primordial. It's certainly senseless.

I pray (heh) that nobody crashes in my yard and dies. I'd be out
there as often as necessary, removing the cenotaph.

Our neighbour was really upset when it happened on their property.
For some reason those vigils and shrines don't usually pop up when there
is an tragic accident and innocent people are killed. It is more often a
case of someone driving like a moron or drinking and driving.

There was a horrible accident in the highway by our town a few years
ago. One of our neighbours relatives were in a car coming back from the airport after a nice vacation when they crashed head on. All four
suffered relatively minor injuries. Four young men in the other car
were killed when they were unable to get out of their burning car. It
was a hell of a trauma for the returning vacationers. Now there is more
or less permanent shrine honouring the guys who were deceased. The four
men had apparently been drinking heavily and doing drugs as a sort of a
wake for the younger brother of one of the victims. The younger brother
had been buried that day after dying of an overdose of drugs that he had
been sold by his own brother. How absurd can things get that someone
would get into a fatal accident after going out on a bender in some sort
of celebration of the life of a brother that is now dead from an
overdose on drugs he had sold him.


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On 2025-12-01 6:05 a.m., Janet wrote:

In article <10ght6m$h5ec$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 10:32 a.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 8:08 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

It's definitely a service for large animals. If you have a dog or cat >>>>> they will put it down and cremate the body.... for a price.  Our
propery is large enough that we have been able to bury a number of pets. >>>>>
I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a whole
other story because then you have to dispose of the body. City folks >>>>> may not realize it but in farm country there are companies that
specialize in removing and disposing of dead animals.

In England they are called "knackers".

When I was a kid knakers were testicles. That left me wondering about
English people who said they were knackered.

Knackered is not a reference to testicles so it's a
non-gendered adjective. Women get/feel knackered too (
exhausted, worn out, broken) derived from knacker v.
meaning to "destroy/ break down".

Probably malformed from "nadgers", which is actual

British slang.

Knackers is also actual British slang for testicles.

Nadgers ( slang for testicles)is derived from gonads.
Ovaries are also gonads but not many people know that.

Sorry chaps, your testicles are not the centre of the
universe after all.

No one ever thought they were. It is their dick neighbour who is the
brains behind the operation.



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On 2025-12-01, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

In article <10ght6m$h5ec$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 10:32 a.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 8:08 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

It's definitely a service for large animals. If you have a dog or cat >> >>> they will put it down and cremate the body.... for a price.  Our
propery is large enough that we have been able to bury a number of pets. >> >>>
I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a whole
other story because then you have to dispose of the body. City folks
may not realize it but in farm country there are companies that
specialize in removing and disposing of dead animals.

In England they are called "knackers".

When I was a kid knakers were testicles. That left me wondering about
English people who said they were knackered.

Knackered is not a reference to testicles so it's a
non-gendered adjective. Women get/feel knackered too (
exhausted, worn out, broken) derived from knacker v.
meaning to "destroy/ break down".

Probably malformed from "nadgers", which is actual

British slang.

Knackers is also actual British slang for testicles.

Nadgers ( slang for testicles)is derived from gonads.
Ovaries are also gonads but not many people know that.

Sorry chaps, your testicles are not the centre of the
universe after all.

Oh, I'm sure when a guy get hit in the testicles they rapidly
become the center of the observable universe.
--
Cindy Hamilton
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On 2025-12-01 8:23 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2025-12-01, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

In article <10ght6m$h5ec$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 10:32 a.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 8:08 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

It's definitely a service for large animals. If you have a dog or cat >>>>>> they will put it down and cremate the body.... for a price.  Our
propery is large enough that we have been able to bury a number of pets. >>>>>>
I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a whole >>>>>> other story because then you have to dispose of the body. City folks >>>>>> may not realize it but in farm country there are companies that
specialize in removing and disposing of dead animals.

In England they are called "knackers".

When I was a kid knakers were testicles. That left me wondering about
English people who said they were knackered.

Knackered is not a reference to testicles so it's a
non-gendered adjective. Women get/feel knackered too (
exhausted, worn out, broken) derived from knacker v.
meaning to "destroy/ break down".

Probably malformed from "nadgers", which is actual

British slang.

Knackers is also actual British slang for testicles.

Nadgers ( slang for testicles)is derived from gonads.
Ovaries are also gonads but not many people know that.

Sorry chaps, your testicles are not the centre of the
universe after all.

Oh, I'm sure when a guy get hit in the testicles they rapidly
become the center of the observable universe.

I wonder if "Knacker's Yard" has been replaced by something like
"Humane Animal Disposal Site".
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 10:30:04 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 5:21 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 16:36:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

his joke about the narcissism of people sending thoughts and
prayers on social media.

You may not know what narcissism really is.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
nar·cis·sism
/ˈnärsəˌsizəm/
noun
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical
appearance.

So a true narcissist wouldn't pray for others at all, now would
they?

Next.

Correct, but they would say they did. LOOK AT ME, I offered
thoughts and prayers.

As it happens, there's a Bible verse on this topic. Matthew 6:5-6.

Well said!
AI Overview
Bible Verse | Matthew 6:5-6 NKJV “And when you pray, you ...
Matthew 6:5-6 instructs people to pray sincerely and privately, not for public attention. It warns against acting like "hypocrites" who pray in public places to be seen by others, stating they have already received their reward in the form of human approval. Instead, it encourages believers to pray in secret to their "Father who is in secret," who sees what is done in private and will reward them accordingly.
How to pray: Go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret.
Why this is the right way: This practice is about an authentic, private conversation with God, free from the desire for human praise.
The reward: The reward for sincere prayer is not from people but from
God, who sees what is done in secret.
If we all did this today there would be no more Pharisees - who by the
way never really left.
Characteristics of modern-day "Pharisees"
Hypocrisy: They preach one thing but practice another, often ignoring the spirit of the law for the letter.
Legalism: They may insist on man-made rules and traditions as requirements for salvation or righteousness, while also being critical of others.
Self-righteousness: They present a façade of spirituality while being inwardly judgmental, unloving, and focused on appearances.
Love of power and control: This attitude can manifest as a desire to hold power within a religious community, regulating others to maintain control.
Focus on winning arguments: They are often more concerned with winning theological debates and being correct than with demonstrating love or winning converts.
Judgmental of others: They are quick to point out the sins of others but can be blind to their own flaws.
Origins and context
The Pharisees were a Jewish sect in the first century BC and AD known for their strict adherence to religious law and oral tradition.
Jesus critiqued the Pharisees for their hypocrisy, legalism, and self-righteousness, which is why their name is used today to denote similar behaviors.
Some scholars also see a connection between the ancient Pharisees and modern-day Rabbinic Judaism, as Pharisaic thought shaped it after the destruction of the Second Temple.
Nuance and caution
It is important to note that applying the label "Pharisee" today is not about condemning a specific denomination or group of people, but about recognizing a harmful attitude that can appear anywhere.
This behavior can exist among pastors, laypeople, and new or old believers alike.
Some sources warn that the "Pharisee card" is often used today as a way to discredit other Christians whose beliefs or practices differ from one's own.
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 11:05:44 -0000
Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

In article <10ght6m$h5ec$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 10:32 a.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 8:08 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

It's definitely a service for large animals. If you have a dog
or cat they will put it down and cremate the body.... for a
price.  Our propery is large enough that we have been able to
bury a number of pets.

I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a
whole other story because then you have to dispose of the body.
City folks may not realize it but in farm country there are
companies that specialize in removing and disposing of dead
animals.

In England they are called "knackers".

When I was a kid knakers were testicles. That left me wondering
about English people who said they were knackered.

Knackered is not a reference to testicles so it's a
non-gendered adjective. Women get/feel knackered too (
exhausted, worn out, broken) derived from knacker v.
meaning to "destroy/ break down".

Probably malformed from "nadgers", which is actual

British slang.

Knackers is also actual British slang for testicles.

Nadgers ( slang for testicles)is derived from gonads.
Ovaries are also gonads but not many people know that.

Sorry chaps, your testicles are not the centre of the
universe after all.

Janet UK

Sorry you may be, but without a nice sweaty set of bollocks in the
mix you'd not be whinging like a beastly old bellows today.
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 15:23:21 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-01, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

In article <10ght6m$h5ec$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 10:32 a.m., Graham wrote:

On 2025-11-30 8:08 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

It's definitely a service for large animals. If you have a dog
or cat they will put it down and cremate the body.... for a
price.  Our propery is large enough that we have been able to
bury a number of pets.

I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a
whole other story because then you have to dispose of the
body. City folks may not realize it but in farm country there
are companies that specialize in removing and disposing of
dead animals.

In England they are called "knackers".

When I was a kid knakers were testicles. That left me wondering
about English people who said they were knackered.

Knackered is not a reference to testicles so it's a
non-gendered adjective. Women get/feel knackered too (
exhausted, worn out, broken) derived from knacker v.
meaning to "destroy/ break down".

Probably malformed from "nadgers", which is actual

British slang.

Knackers is also actual British slang for testicles.

Nadgers ( slang for testicles)is derived from gonads.
Ovaries are also gonads but not many people know that.

Sorry chaps, your testicles are not the centre of the
universe after all.

Oh, I'm sure when a guy get hit in the testicles they rapidly
become the center of the observable universe.

Right as rain: https://www.facebook.com/AdamSchefter/videos/nfl-is-suspending-panthers-s-trevon-moehrig-one-game-for-striking-49ers-wr-jauan/1844716956154042/
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On 2025-11-30, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

In article <20251129154209.7c869324@z-z>, bubbles@in.valid

Nor callous enough to make the last day in some vet office full of other
animal smells and whimpers.

That's not necessary. I've always paid the vet to come
to the house. No doubt that's an option in the USA.

It is. I put down my WP griffon that way at 16 1/2. He pooped and peed
all over the house and was too old to go outside. That sounds cold when
I type it now, but it was time.
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On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a whole other story because then you have to dispose of the body. City folks may not realize it but in farm country there are companies that specialize in removing and disposing of dead animals.

My first girlfriend's dad had a horse die in his corral. The corral was
on the edge of town. Her BiL and I hooked it up by its rear hooves and
dragged it about two miles into the desert, untied the hooves and headed
back to town.
The horse's body passed a *lot* of gas when we first pulled on the
hooves. Luckily, we were already in the truck.
What we did is probably illegal now.
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On 2025-12-01 6:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a whole other
story because then you have to dispose of the body. City folks may not
realize it but in farm country there are companies that specialize in
removing and disposing of dead animals.

My first girlfriend's dad had a horse die in his corral. The corral was
on the edge of town. Her BiL and I hooked it up by its rear hooves and dragged it about two miles into the desert, untied the hooves and headed
back to town.
The horse's body passed a *lot* of gas when we first pulled on the
hooves. Luckily, we were already in the truck.
What we did is probably illegal now.

My Dad was sewing a dead shipmate into his hammock during a WW2
Atlantic convoy voyage, when stomach gas was expelled through the
corpse's mouth. The groan frightened the life out of my Dad.
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On 2025-12-01 8:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

I was once present when a horse had to be put down. That's a whole other
story because then you have to dispose of the body. City folks may not
realize it but in farm country there are companies that specialize in
removing and disposing of dead animals.

My first girlfriend's dad had a horse die in his corral. The corral was
on the edge of town. Her BiL and I hooked it up by its rear hooves and dragged it about two miles into the desert, untied the hooves and headed
back to town.
The horse's body passed a *lot* of gas when we first pulled on the
hooves. Luckily, we were already in the truck.
What we did is probably illegal now.

It was probably illegal back then,

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On 2025-12-02, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-12-01 8:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

[Regarding dead horse disposal]

What we did is probably illegal now.

It was probably illegal back then,

1963? Nope. I'm talking about the wilds of Nevada.
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On 2 Dec 2025 03:02:07 GMT
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 2025-12-02, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-12-01 8:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

[Regarding dead horse disposal]

What we did is probably illegal now.

It was probably illegal back then,

1963? Nope. I'm talking about the wilds of Nevada.

https://youtu.be/0vOulnDhH8A

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On 12/1/2025 12:37 AM, lomonosov wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 15:08:01 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 21:30:42 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 7:10 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:57:39 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

I think what he was saying is that narcissists *claim* to pray,
but don't. Also, that is only one definition. You are
deliberately trying to mislead. Are you a MAGA?

Are you an NGO supporter?

Only a fascist would reply that way. You are likely a Russian troll.
You stupid cunt. You even use a Russian name. Most Russians are so
stupid that they believe that they are too stupid to exist without
strongmen ruling them. You exploit the stupidity of racist
Americans. Russian motherfucker, you should have your balls kicked
for hours for maximum pain, then have them cut off and put into an
American prison to be raped while the guards ignore your screams.

Ghe ghe. Bryan vs. trollie. The Internet equivalent of a bum fight.

Barfly.

Haha. You didn't even bother to deny what I wrote, but merely pointed
out that Bruce is an ass sniffer.
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For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

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We're just too courteous to say so."
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 20:25:38 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/1/2025 12:37 AM, lomonosov wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 15:08:01 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 21:30:42 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/30/2025 7:10 PM, lomonosov wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:57:39 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

I think what he was saying is that narcissists *claim* to pray,
but don't. Also, that is only one definition. You are
deliberately trying to mislead. Are you a MAGA?

Are you an NGO supporter?

Only a fascist would reply that way. You are likely a Russian
troll. You stupid cunt. You even use a Russian name. Most
Russians are so stupid that they believe that they are too stupid
to exist without strongmen ruling them. You exploit the stupidity
of racist Americans. Russian motherfucker, you should have your
balls kicked for hours for maximum pain, then have them cut off
and put into an American prison to be raped while the guards
ignore your screams.

Ghe ghe. Bryan vs. trollie. The Internet equivalent of a bum fight.

Barfly.

Haha. You didn't even bother to deny what I wrote, but merely pointed
out that Bruce is an ass sniffer.

https://youtu.be/FuXpD3xDwvU

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On 11/30/2025 9:26 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith wrote:

If I get to that point I would prefer [...]
instead of forcing me to endure more and more pain

My wife knew two people (Uncle & sister's FiL)
who essentially suicided by fasting a few weeks.

Uncle had broken his neck (quadra-P). Other ended
up in a 'long-term' facility, and nodody could
visit due to Covid restrictions.

Neither in pain, but both lucent &c.

Latter was classified 'death by Covid'
because there was enough going around.

They must have been in rough shape, or at least very thin, if they
starved to death within weeks of not eating. I did hear a number of
stories of facilities who marked down that just about everyone who
passed around COVID was a victim of it. Apparently they were getting
paid for each COVID death.

My grandfather (87 yrs) fell ill and went into skilled nursing to
recover right at the start of COVID (he didn't contract it). They
wouldn't let anyone in to see him, due to the restrictions. A huge
change up in an elderly person's life and routine can really make them
go down-hill quickly. 4-5 months later, they finally let us see him.
At this point he didn't seem to recognize us, and he was hardly
cognitive. He was normal as could be before he went in, and was even
still driving. The nurses told me that when he first got there, he
would sit and watch westerns on TV, just like at home... But few months
in, it's like he wasn't even watching anymore; He was just staring off
into the distance. He had quit eating, wouldn't eat their food, and got
very thin over the months.
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 20:54:20 -0500, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>
wrote:

On 11/30/2025 9:26 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:

My wife knew two people (Uncle & sister's FiL)
who essentially suicided by fasting a few weeks.

Uncle had broken his neck (quadra-P). Other ended
up in a 'long-term' facility, and nodody could
visit due to Covid restrictions.

Neither in pain, but both lucent &c.

Latter was classified 'death by Covid'
because there was enough going around.

They must have been in rough shape, or at least very thin, if they
starved to death within weeks of not eating. I did hear a number of
stories of facilities who marked down that just about everyone who
passed around COVID was a victim of it. Apparently they were getting
paid for each COVID death.

This could be true. But it also has that aura of paranoid right-wing Americanism that denies covid, thinks vaccinations are a communist
conspiracy to get rid of you and all that. Being from Appalachia, you
must be surrounded by that.
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On 11/29/2025 9:21 AM, songbird wrote:

Michael Trew wrote:
...

My neighbor, although he's only 71, is in poor shape, with no family. He
recently went to the hospital with a bad case of shingles, and was in a
nursing home for almost a month. They tried to keep him there and take
his house and car. I went to visit him in the home, what an awful place
to be. He said he'd rather die than live there, and I felt the same way
about the place. I've got him back home now, but the city condemned his
house in the mean time due to a broken water line. My last 3 weeks have
been digging up the hillside to attempt to replace the broken water line
to the curb stop.

that's not much fun this time of the year! i hope you can
get that done soon. the weather here has turned a lot colder
the past few days.

songbird

Thanks, it got cold here about the same time. We got the first real
snow this past Tuesday. 4-5 inches of heavy wet snow that stuck. It's
mostly melted now, but I'm hoping to get back to it on Monday. Luckily
the supervisor at the water department is really going above and beyond
to help. He bought the PEX water line and fittings out of pocket to do
the job. Told me that if I widen the hole in the sidewalk by another
18" that they can get down there and hook it up. I've got it maybe a
foot wide at the moment. We're hoping to route the water line up that
buried rain gutter that comes out of the bottom stone wall, maybe 25
feet up to the house. That will get him through the winter if the line doesn't freeze.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/mz6Wqp4
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On 12/4/2025 9:22 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

On 11/29/2025 9:21 AM, songbird wrote:

Michael Trew wrote:
...

My neighbor, although he's only 71, is in poor shape, with no family. He >>> recently went to the hospital with a bad case of shingles, and was in a
nursing home for almost a month.  They tried to keep him there and take >>> his house and car.  I went to visit him in the home, what an awful place >>> to be.  He said he'd rather die than live there, and I felt the same way >>> about the place.  I've got him back home now, but the city condemned his >>> house in the mean time due to a broken water line.  My last 3 weeks have >>> been digging up the hillside to attempt to replace the broken water line >>> to the curb stop.

   that's not much fun this time of the year!  i hope you can
get that done soon.  the weather here has turned a lot colder
the past few days.


   songbird

Thanks, it got cold here about the same time.  We got the first real
snow this past Tuesday.  4-5 inches of heavy wet snow that stuck.  It's mostly melted now, but I'm hoping to get back to it on Monday.  Luckily
the supervisor at the water department is really going above and beyond
to help.  He bought the PEX water line and fittings out of pocket to do
the job.  Told me that if I widen the hole in the sidewalk by another
18" that they can get down there and hook it up.  I've got it maybe a
foot wide at the moment.  We're hoping to route the water line up that buried rain gutter that comes out of the bottom stone wall, maybe 25
feet up to the house.  That will get him through the winter if the line doesn't freeze.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/mz6Wqp4

Good that you are doing it.
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On 2025-12-05, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

They must have been in rough shape, or at least very thin, if they
starved to death within weeks of not eating. I did hear a number of
stories of facilities who marked down that just about everyone who
passed around COVID was a victim of it. Apparently they were getting
paid for each COVID death.

Not for deaths. For the added complexity of treatment and care.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/939833

You really need better news sources.
--
Cindy Hamilton
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On 12/4/2025 9:22 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

On 11/29/2025 9:21 AM, songbird wrote:

Michael Trew wrote:
...

My neighbor, although he's only 71, is in poor shape, with no family. He >>> recently went to the hospital with a bad case of shingles, and was in a
nursing home for almost a month.  They tried to keep him there and take >>> his house and car.  I went to visit him in the home, what an awful place >>> to be.  He said he'd rather die than live there, and I felt the same way >>> about the place.  I've got him back home now, but the city condemned his >>> house in the mean time due to a broken water line.  My last 3 weeks have >>> been digging up the hillside to attempt to replace the broken water line >>> to the curb stop.

   that's not much fun this time of the year!  i hope you can
get that done soon.  the weather here has turned a lot colder
the past few days.


   songbird

Thanks, it got cold here about the same time.  We got the first real
snow this past Tuesday.  4-5 inches of heavy wet snow that stuck.  It's mostly melted now, but I'm hoping to get back to it on Monday.  Luckily
the supervisor at the water department is really going above and beyond
to help.  He bought the PEX water line and fittings out of pocket to do
the job.  Told me that if I widen the hole in the sidewalk by another
18" that they can get down there and hook it up.  I've got it maybe a
foot wide at the moment.  We're hoping to route the water line up that buried rain gutter that comes out of the bottom stone wall, maybe 25
feet up to the house.  That will get him through the winter if the line doesn't freeze.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/mz6Wqp4

It's a very nice thing you're doing, Michael.

Jill
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In article <69323b58$2$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
michael.trew@att.net says...

On 11/30/2025 9:26 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Dave Smith wrote:

If I get to that point I would prefer [...]
instead of forcing me to endure more and more pain

My wife knew two people (Uncle & sister's FiL)
who essentially suicided by fasting a few weeks.

Uncle had broken his neck (quadra-P). Other ended
up in a 'long-term' facility, and nodody could
visit due to Covid restrictions.

Neither in pain, but both lucent &c.

Latter was classified 'death by Covid'
because there was enough going around.

They must have been in rough shape, or at least very thin, if they
starved to death within weeks of not eating.

Someone who lost tha ability to swallow ( neck
fracture with total paralysis, or advanced dementia), is
not in their previous physical condition.

Those conditions affect every organ in the body leaving
an immobile patient vulnerable to systemic collapse.

Poor lung function results in pneumonia ( AKA "the old
man's friend"); poor circulation results in blood clots
(stroke, heart failure). Reduced bowel and kidney
function results in toxicity and brain damage.

If a completely immobile person is unable to swallow,
refuses tube nutrition, antibiotics,dialysis, and
hydration, death can soon follow. The cause of death is
organ failure, not starvation.

. Janet UK.




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On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 10:03:00 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-05, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

They must have been in rough shape, or at least very thin, if they
starved to death within weeks of not eating. I did hear a number
of stories of facilities who marked down that just about everyone
who passed around COVID was a victim of it. Apparently they were
getting paid for each COVID death.

Not for deaths. For the added complexity of treatment and care.

Which (ventilators and Rem-death-is-near as a med) caused said deaths!

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/939833

You really need better news sources.

You need to quit shilling for an obvious genocidal program.


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