On 2025-11-27, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It's probably a cultural thing. People here don't really trust people with power.
My guess it's because of a history of being slaves and what the people in power
did to the Kingdom of Hawaii. Hawaii is interested in social justice i.e, equality
for all. We're one of the most highly unionized states of the union. You don't get
to be that way by believing in the kindness of the rich and powerful. Nobody does.
I always believed in my own ability. With ability and ambition, I could
have become a union leader. With a smattering of envy, the ambitious
rise to the top. It will always be that way. There is no such thing as intellectual equality, no matter what you've been told.
Let the people of Hawaii know this and become King! 😉
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2025-11-27, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It's probably a cultural thing. People here don't really trust
people with power. My guess it's because of a history of being
slaves and what the people in power did to the Kingdom of Hawaii.
Hawaii is interested in social justice i.e, equality for all.
We're one of the most highly unionized states of the union. You
don't get to be that way by believing in the kindness of the rich
and powerful. Nobody does.
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?I always believed in my own ability. With ability and ambition, I
could have become a union leader. With a smattering of envy, the
ambitious rise to the top. It will always be that way. There is no
such thing as intellectual equality, no matter what you've been
told. Let the people of Hawaii know this and become King! 😉
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got
leadership placed on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his dislike
for the rich and powerful. Nobody believes in intellectual equality
but da Hawaiians do believe in every persons right to live their
lives in peace and security - even if they lolo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISgmP3kG3TA
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2025-11-27, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It's probably a cultural thing. People here don't really trust people with power.
My guess it's because of a history of being slaves and what the people in power
did to the Kingdom of Hawaii. Hawaii is interested in social justice i.e, equality
for all. We're one of the most highly unionized states of the union. You don't get
to be that way by believing in the kindness of the rich and powerful. Nobody does.
I always believed in my own ability. With ability and ambition, I could
have become a union leader. With a smattering of envy, the ambitious
rise to the top. It will always be that way. There is no such thing as
intellectual equality, no matter what you've been told.
Let the people of Hawaii know this and become King! 😉
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got leadership placed >on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his dislike for the rich and powerful.
Nobody believes in intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every >persons right to live their lives in peace and security - even if they lolo.
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got
leadership placed on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his dislike
for the rich and powerful. Nobody believes in intellectual equality
but da Hawaiians do believe in every persons right to live their
lives in peace and security - even if they lolo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISgmP3kG3TA
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a significant increase in recent years, driven largely by its high cost of living. The state is addressing the crisis through various government programs and non-profit organizations that provide services like outreach, emergency shelters, and permanent housing. Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders are disproportionately represented within the state's homeless population, and addressing homelessness is a long-standing issue with historical roots.
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 12:54:35 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got
leadership placed on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his
dislike for the rich and powerful. Nobody believes in intellectual
equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every persons right to
live their lives in peace and security - even if they lolo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISgmP3kG3TA
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a
significant increase in recent years, driven largely by its high
cost of living. The state is addressing the crisis through various >government programs and non-profit organizations that provide
services like outreach, emergency shelters, and permanent housing.
Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders are disproportionately
represented within the state's homeless population, and addressing >homelessness is a long-standing issue with historical roots.
What? I thought Hawaiians were such noble people, but they let their
fellow Hawaiians sleep on the streets? Damn, you burst my Hawaiian
bubble!
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a significant increase in recent years, driven largely by its high cost of living. The state is addressing the crisis through various government programs and non-profit organizations that provide services like outreach, emergency shelters, and permanent housing. Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders are disproportionately represented within the state's homeless population, and addressing homelessness is a long-standing issue with historical roots.
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a significant increase in recent years, driven largely by its high cost of living. The state is addressing the crisis through various government programs and non-profit organizations that provide services like outreach, emergency shelters, and permanent housing. Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders are disproportionately represented within the state's homeless population, and addressing homelessness is a long-standing issue with historical roots.
We certainly won't let a kid go without a home. We've opened up our home to kids. We try to encourage them to get an education while they're here or at least, save up some money. It's certainly inconvenient to keep a stranger in our midst but no can help. It's a Hawaiian/Asian tradition to take care of the
kids of others. We did have an adult crack-head stay with us but that was a heap
of trouble. My daughter even lived with another family for a while.
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:(snip)>>
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a significant
We certainly won't let a kid go without a home.You keep feeding this troll... why? This is your beloved Google results.
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a
significant increase in recent years, driven largely by its high
cost of living. The state is addressing the crisis through various government programs and non-profit organizations that provide
services like outreach, emergency shelters, and permanent housing.
Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders are disproportionately
represented within the state's homeless population, and addressing homelessness is a long-standing issue with historical roots.
We certainly won't let a kid go without a home. We've opened up our
home to kids. We try to encourage them to get an education while
they're here or at least, save up some money. It's certainly
inconvenient to keep a stranger in our midst but no can help. It's a Hawaiian/Asian tradition to take care of the kids of others. We did
have an adult crack-head stay with us but that was a heap of trouble.
My daughter even lived with another family for a while.
Anybody that lives on this rock is well aware of this problem. It's
only going to get worse. I don't have a solution to this problem. My
guess is that people are just going to have to move to Las Vegas.
What heck have you done to address homelessness where you live or are
you just another finger-pointer?
On 11/30/2025 6:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
(snip)>>
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a significant >>>
We certainly won't let a kid go without a home.
You keep feeding this troll... why? This is your beloved Google results.
On 11/30/2025 6:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:(snip)>>
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a
significant
We certainly won't let a kid go without a home.You keep feeding this troll... why? This is your beloved Google
results.
Jill
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:55:45 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 11/30/2025 6:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
(snip)>>
You keep feeding this troll... why? This is your beloved Google
We certainly won't let a kid go without a home.
results.
Jill
I didn't know he was a troll, sorry.
On 2025-11-30 6:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a significant increase in recent years, driven largely by its high cost of living. The state is addressing the crisis through various government programs and non-profit organizations that provide services like outreach, emergency shelters, and permanent housing. Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders are disproportionately represented within the state's homeless population, and addressing homelessness is a long-standing issue with historical roots.
We certainly won't let a kid go without a home. We've opened up our home to kids. We try to encourage them to get an education while they're here or at least, save up some money. It's certainly inconvenient to keep a stranger in
our midst but no can help. It's a Hawaiian/Asian tradition to take care of the
kids of others. We did have an adult crack-head stay with us but that was a heap
of trouble. My daughter even lived with another family for a while.
I think most teens go through periods where it is hard to get along with parents. When I was a teen I had a friend whose parents were like second parents to me. I didn't have major blow outs with my parents, but I
spent a lot more time with his family than with my own. When they moved
on way and we moved another we ended up about 100 miles apart but I used
to hitchhike and spend weekends there. In the summer I would spend weeks
at a time.
I played it forward when I had a teenager. While some kids bring home
stray dogs he would bring friends. The first was good kid who had
family issues. His mother was addicted to pain killers and he was living with his father. One day he and his father had a big fight and he took
off for the night. While he was away his father died of a heart attack.
He tried living with his mother but too often he would come home and
find her pretty much ODed. He ended up living with us for about 6 months.
He finished high school, had a summer job and went off to college. He
ended up in the advertising business and his doing well. We see him frequently and he often expresses his appreciation and asks how he can
repay us for the help. I tell him to play it forward. One day his son
may have a friend who needs a hand.
It wasn't long after that young man moved on than our son brought home another stray. We let him stay for a few weeks but this time I went to
the guidance counselor at their school and got them to arrange social services for the guy. He finished school and is meaningfully employed, married and has a child of his own. He too has expressed his
appreciation for the help.
As for the homeless.... it is a problem and there are no easy solutions
and no simple causes. We didn't have a homelessness problem when I was
young perhaps because it just wasn't tolerated. People living on the
streets were sent to jail for vagrancy or, if suffering by mental
illness, we sent to psychiatric hospitals.
I wonder how many of the homeless in Hawaii are from the islands or how
many have relocated there. The homeless tend to migrate to cities with larger populations and with nicer weather. They don't want to be the
only homeless person in a small town where it is freezing cold or
raining all the time.
There is also the issue of drugs and alcohol. It is a chicken and egg
sort of problem. Some would have us accept that the drug and alcohol
abuse is due to their homelessness. Others believe their inability to
find and maintain a job and their mental health issues are the result of drug and alcohol abuse.
Some cities are getting fed up with the homeless destroying their
downtown areas that they are pretty basically evicting them. Kicking
them out of the parks and their encampments. The pendulum seems to be swinging. For a while cities were trying to help and tolerating the
problems but the overdoses, the crime and violence and the mess got to
them and they just won't tolerate it.
FWIW, a nearby city build a fancy self cleaning wash room for the
homeless. They set it up at the end of the major downtown street where
the homeless hang out. It was a total failure. Apparently the self
cleaning part could not keep up with the incredible filth, like feces smeared on the walls, toilets being plugged with newspapers, fires etc.
It lasted only about 6 months.
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2025-11-27, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It's probably a cultural thing. People here don't really trust people with power.
My guess it's because of a history of being slaves and what the people in power
did to the Kingdom of Hawaii. Hawaii is interested in social justice i.e, equality
for all. We're one of the most highly unionized states of the union. You don't get
to be that way by believing in the kindness of the rich and powerful. Nobody does.
I always believed in my own ability. With ability and ambition, I could
have become a union leader. With a smattering of envy, the ambitious
rise to the top. It will always be that way. There is no such thing as
intellectual equality, no matter what you've been told.
Let the people of Hawaii know this and become King! 😉
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got leadership placed
on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his dislike for the rich and powerful.
Nobody believes in intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every
persons right to live their lives in peace and security - even if they lolo.
Hey, I believe in that too! Could it be that it's not unique for
Hawaiians?
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got leadership placed
on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his dislike for the rich and powerful.
Nobody believes in intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every
persons right to live their lives in peace and security - even if they lolo.
Hey, I believe in that too! Could it be that it's not unique for
Hawaiians?
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful. What matters is that the law is in the state >constitution - not as a practical statute, but as a guiding principle to remind
lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
On 11/30/2025 6:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
(snip)>>
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
How has the splintered oar successfully addressed homelessness?
Google AI Overview
Hawaii has the highest homelessness rate in the U.S., with a significant >>>
We certainly won't let a kid go without a home.
You keep feeding this troll... why? This is your beloved Google results.
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2025-11-27, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It's probably a cultural thing. People here don't really trust people with power.
My guess it's because of a history of being slaves and what the people in power
did to the Kingdom of Hawaii. Hawaii is interested in social justice i.e, equality
for all. We're one of the most highly unionized states of the union. You don't get
to be that way by believing in the kindness of the rich and powerful. Nobody does.
I always believed in my own ability. With ability and ambition, I could
have become a union leader. With a smattering of envy, the ambitious
rise to the top. It will always be that way. There is no such thing as
intellectual equality, no matter what you've been told.
Let the people of Hawaii know this and become King! 😉
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got leadership placed >on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his dislike for the rich and powerful.
Nobody believes in intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every >persons right to live their lives in peace and security - even if they lolo.
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got leadership placed
on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his dislike for the rich and powerful.
Nobody believes in intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every
persons right to live their lives in peace and security - even if they lolo.
Hey, I believe in that too! Could it be that it's not unique for
Hawaiians?
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful. What matters is that the law is in the state >constitution - not as a practical statute, but as a guiding principle to remind
lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark Zuckerman
do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich and powerful
people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens everywhere else in
the world?
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful. What matters is that the law is in the state
constitution - not as a practical statute, but as a guiding principle to remind
lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark Zuckerman
do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich and powerful
people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens everywhere else in
the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in Hawaii. It's not >there to control what one scumbag does. There's not much our lawmakers can do >about Zuckerburg. What the heck do you expect them to do?
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful. What matters is that the law is in the state >> >constitution - not as a practical statute, but as a guiding principle to remind
lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark Zuckerman
do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich and powerful
people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens everywhere else in
the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in Hawaii. It's not
there to control what one scumbag does. There's not much our lawmakers can do
about Zuckerburg. What the heck do you expect them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless from
the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any effect. Well,
that's just great. We should all have such laws!
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful. What matters is that the law is in the state >> >> >constitution - not as a practical statute, but as a guiding principle to remind
lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark Zuckerman
do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich and powerful
people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens everywhere else in
the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in Hawaii. It's not
there to control what one scumbag does. There's not much our lawmakers can do
about Zuckerburg. What the heck do you expect them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless from
the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any effect. Well,
that's just great. We should all have such laws!
You're right about that. He's winning this round. Perhaps one day, da Hawaiians
will rise again and rebel. The thousands of flying drones and humanoid battle bots will be a problem - then we'll have to extract him from his extensive bunker complex. In the end, da Hawaiians will prevail - but it may take a thousand
years.
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got
leadership placed on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his
dislike for the rich and powerful. Nobody believes in
intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every
persons right to live their lives in peace and security - even if
they lolo.
Hey, I believe in that too! Could it be that it's not unique for
Hawaiians?
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak
and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What matters is that the
law is in the state constitution - not as a practical statute, but
as a guiding principle to remind lawmakers that they have a kuleana
to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark Zuckerman
do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich and powerful
people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens everywhere else in
the world?
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got
leadership placed on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his
dislike for the rich and powerful. Nobody believes in
intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every
persons right to live their lives in peace and security - even
if they lolo.
Hey, I believe in that too! Could it be that it's not unique for
Hawaiians?
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak
and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What matters is that
the law is in the state constitution - not as a practical statute,
but as a guiding principle to remind lawmakers that they have a
kuleana to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark
Zuckerman do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich and
powerful people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens
everywhere else in the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in Hawaii.
It's not there to control what one scumbag does. There's not much our lawmakers can do about Zuckerburg. What the heck do you expect them
to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8s8Z1OHpr0
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak
and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What matters is that
the law is in the state constitution - not as a practical
statute, but as a guiding principle to remind lawmakers that they
have a kuleana to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark
Zuckerman do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich and
powerful people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens
everywhere else in the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in Hawaii.
It's not there to control what one scumbag does. There's not much
our lawmakers can do about Zuckerburg. What the heck do you expect
them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless from
the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any effect. Well,
that's just great. We should all have such laws!
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the
weak and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What matters
is that the law is in the state constitution - not as a
practical statute, but as a guiding principle to remind
lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after the rights of
all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark
Zuckerman do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich
and powerful people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens
everywhere else in the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in
Hawaii. It's not there to control what one scumbag does. There's
not much our lawmakers can do about Zuckerburg. What the heck do
you expect them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless from
the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any effect. Well,
that's just great. We should all have such laws!
You're right about that. He's winning this round. Perhaps one day, da Hawaiians will rise again and rebel. The thousands of flying drones
and humanoid battle bots will be a problem - then we'll have to
extract him from his extensive bunker complex. In the end, da
Hawaiians will prevail - but it may take a thousand years.
On 2025-12-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the
weak and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What matters
is that the law is in the state constitution - not as a
practical statute, but as a guiding principle to remind
lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after the rights of
all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark
Zuckerman do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich
and powerful people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens
everywhere else in the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in
Hawaii. It's not there to control what one scumbag does. There's
not much our lawmakers can do about Zuckerburg. What the heck do
you expect them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any effect.
Well, that's just great. We should all have such laws!
You're right about that. He's winning this round. Perhaps one day,
da Hawaiians will rise again and rebel. The thousands of flying
drones and humanoid battle bots will be a problem - then we'll
have to extract him from his extensive bunker complex. In the end,
da Hawaiians will prevail - but it may take a thousand years.
Will Zuckerberg still be there in 1000 years?
On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 03:51:56 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in Hawaii.
It's not there to control what one scumbag does. There's not much
our lawmakers can do about Zuckerburg. What the heck do you expect
them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless from
the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any effect. Well,
that's just great. We should all have such laws!
And proud of them he is.
Plus virtue signaling.
Have you chosen a rummy of your own to home adopt yet?
On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 12:44:46 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 03:51:56 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in
Hawaii. It's not there to control what one scumbag does. There's
not much our lawmakers can do about Zuckerburg. What the heck do
you expect them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any effect.
Well, that's just great. We should all have such laws!
And proud of them he is.
Plus virtue signaling.
Have you chosen a rummy of your own to home adopt yet?
No, we still have our two originals.
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doctrines) or a personal creed. It is constructed to be forceful and memorable, using definitive language and broad generalizations to
deliver a central message about the nature of power, hierarchy, and
ambition, culminating in a clear, geographically-specific call to
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 19:04:29 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-12-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the
weak and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What matters
is that the law is in the state constitution - not as a
practical statute, but as a guiding principle to remind
lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after the rights of
all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark
Zuckerman do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich
and powerful people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens
everywhere else in the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in
Hawaii. It's not there to control what one scumbag does. There's
not much our lawmakers can do about Zuckerburg. What the heck do
you expect them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any effect.
Well, that's just great. We should all have such laws!
You're right about that. He's winning this round. Perhaps one day,
da Hawaiians will rise again and rebel. The thousands of flying
drones and humanoid battle bots will be a problem - then we'll
have to extract him from his extensive bunker complex. In the end,
da Hawaiians will prevail - but it may take a thousand years.
Will Zuckerberg still be there in 1000 years?
By then these guys may well be showing their feet again, just farther
north than now:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/07/26/famous-easter-island-heads-have-hidden-bodies/
As with many things on Earth, time (rapid) took its toll on the statues
and buried them in sediment and rocks (mud flood), hiding and preserving
the torsos of the Easter Island heads.
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 18:51:12 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got
leadership placed on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his
dislike for the rich and powerful. Nobody believes in
intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every
persons right to live their lives in peace and security - even if
they lolo.
Hey, I believe in that too! Could it be that it's not unique for
Hawaiians?
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak
and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What matters is that the
law is in the state constitution - not as a practical statute, but
as a guiding principle to remind lawmakers that they have a kuleana
to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark Zuckerman
do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich and powerful
people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens everywhere else in
the world?
True. The reptilian billionaire Larry Ellison (Oracle) is the new
plantation king:
AI Overview
Oracle CEO Larry Ellison planning green experiment on ...
Larry Ellison does not own a Hawaii island but rather 98% of Lānaʻi, the sixth-largest of the Hawaiian Islands. He purchased the island in 2012 for approximately $300 million. Lānaʻi is located west of Maui and is commonly known as the "Pineapple Island" due to its history as a pineapple plantation.
Ownership: Ellison owns 98% of Lānaʻi, with the remaining 2% owned by the state of Hawaii and other private landowners.
Management: His company, Pūlama Lānaʻi, manages the land and resources on the island.
Developments: He has invested in developing resorts, golf courses, and infrastructure. His plans also include sustainable agriculture and renewable energy projects.
Local Impact: His ownership and management of the island have led to
both economic development and social challenges, including rising
housing costs and concerns about local control and opportunity,
according to Bloomberg.com and Hawaii Public Radio.
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
True. The reptilian billionaire Larry Ellison (Oracle) is the new
plantation king:
AI Overview
Oracle CEO Larry Ellison planning green experiment on ...
Larry Ellison does not own a Hawaii island but rather 98% of Lānaʻi, the sixth-largest of the Hawaiian Islands. He purchased the island in 2012 for approximately $300 million. Lānaʻi is located west of Maui and is commonly known as the "Pineapple Island" due to its history as a pineapple plantation.
Ownership: Ellison owns 98% of Lānaʻi, with the remaining 2% owned by the state of Hawaii and other private landowners.
Management: His company, Pūlama Lānaʻi, manages the land and resources on the island.
Developments: He has invested in developing resorts, golf courses, and infrastructure. His plans also include sustainable agriculture and renewable energy projects.
Local Impact: His ownership and management of the island have led to
both economic development and social challenges, including rising
housing costs and concerns about local control and opportunity,
according to Bloomberg.com and Hawaii Public Radio.
You boys spend your time whining about the smallest of things. Things that you >know nothing about, people that you don't know. It's a real shame. You should >work on your own life rather than the lives of others.
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 19:04:29 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-12-01, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 16:46:59 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting
the weak and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What
matters is that the law is in the state constitution - not
as a practical statute, but as a guiding principle to
remind lawmakers that they have a kuleana to look after
the rights of all Hawaiians.
That sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark
Zuckerman do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other
rich and powerful people screw over normal Hawaiians, like
happens everywhere else in the world?
The Hawaii legislature is responsible for making the laws in
Hawaii. It's not there to control what one scumbag does.
There's not much our lawmakers can do about Zuckerburg. What
the heck do you expect them to do?
So you have wonderful laws "protecting the weak and defenseless
from the rich and powerful", but those laws don't have any
effect. Well, that's just great. We should all have such laws!
You're right about that. He's winning this round. Perhaps one
day, da Hawaiians will rise again and rebel. The thousands of
flying drones and humanoid battle bots will be a problem -
then we'll have to extract him from his extensive bunker
complex. In the end, da Hawaiians will prevail - but it may
take a thousand years.
Will Zuckerberg still be there in 1000 years?
By then these guys may well be showing their feet again, just
farther north than now:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/07/26/famous-easter-island-heads-have-hidden-bodies/
As with many things on Earth, time (rapid) took its toll on the
statues and buried them in sediment and rocks (mud flood), hiding
and preserving the torsos of the Easter Island heads.
The moai on Rapa Nui also sported topknots on top of their heads.
Where did they go? They all fell off. Rapa Nui should serve as an
important lesson to the human species. The islanders operated as if
the islands resources were never-ending. They deforested the island ecosystem, leaving behind a barren, eroding landscape. That's one
depressing island.
lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 18:51:12 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 07:31:51 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:23:04 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
My dad wasn't interested in leading people anywhere. He got
leadership placed on him. OTOH, that did fit in well with his
dislike for the rich and powerful. Nobody believes in
intellectual equality but da Hawaiians do believe in every
persons right to live their lives in peace and security -
even if they lolo.
Hey, I believe in that too! Could it be that it's not unique
for Hawaiians?
It doesn't matter much if you or I believe in protecting the weak
and defenseless from the rich and powerful. What matters is that
the law is in the state constitution - not as a practical
statute, but as a guiding principle to remind lawmakers that
they have a kuleana to look after the rights of all Hawaiians.
So you can't admit you are still in plantation mode there? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQp2_YNe5BoThat sounds good but does it work in real life? Didn't Mark
Zuckerman do a number on the Hawaiian people? Don't other rich
and powerful people screw over normal Hawaiians, like happens
everywhere else in the world?
True. The reptilian billionaire Larry Ellison (Oracle) is the new plantation king:
AI Overview
Oracle CEO Larry Ellison planning green experiment on ...
Larry Ellison does not own a Hawaii island but rather 98% of
Lānaʻi, the sixth-largest of the Hawaiian Islands. He purchased the island in 2012 for approximately $300 million. Lānaʻi is located
west of Maui and is commonly known as the "Pineapple Island" due to
its history as a pineapple plantation. Ownership: Ellison owns 98%
of Lānaʻi, with the remaining 2% owned by the state of Hawaii and
other private landowners. Management: His company, Pūlama Lānaʻi, manages the land and resources on the island. Developments: He has
invested in developing resorts, golf courses, and infrastructure.
His plans also include sustainable agriculture and renewable energy projects. Local Impact: His ownership and management of the island
have led to both economic development and social challenges,
including rising housing costs and concerns about local control and opportunity, according to Bloomberg.com and Hawaii Public Radio.
You boys spend your time whining about the smallest of things. Things
that you know nothing about, people that you don't know. It's a real
shame. You should work on your own life rather than the lives of
others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Ma0nyEuYs
On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 02:06:43 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
The moai on Rapa Nui also sported topknots on top of their heads.
Where did they go? They all fell off. Rapa Nui should serve as an
important lesson to the human species. The islanders operated as if
the islands resources were never-ending. They deforested the island
ecosystem, leaving behind a barren, eroding landscape. That's one
depressing island.
But be that as it may, or perhaps was, the mud flood that buried those
totems was a global inundation, and we know those happen on a recurring >cycle.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 09:32:36 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 02:06:43 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
The moai on Rapa Nui also sported topknots on top of their heads.
Where did they go? They all fell off. Rapa Nui should serve as an
important lesson to the human species. The islanders operated as if
the islands resources were never-ending. They deforested the island
ecosystem, leaving behind a barren, eroding landscape. That's one
depressing island.
But be that as it may, or perhaps was, the mud flood that buried
those totems was a global inundation, and we know those happen on a >recurring cycle.
Oh cool, so we can continue polluting the planet because we're not responsible for anything?
On 11/22/2025 4:20 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/21/2025 7:07 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Knowing that tariffs were going to make coffee a lot more
expensive, I bought a 6-8 month supply. Let folks who don't shop
strategically subsidize your buying power.
So as long as that coffee doesn't go stale before you drink it. IThe grocery stores here used to run various brands of 12 oz bags of
used to get a 36 oz bag every few months, but with Jenni drinking
coffee, I'm lucky to get a month out of one bag now. Occasionally
Jenni wants a steak, and she cooks that to medium rare-ish, to her liking. We do typically stick to pork or chicken for supper.
coffee BOGO. The best by dates are always ate lest 8-10 months into
the future. It's cheaper that way than the larger sizes ever get.
On another note, my birthday present is complete. My in-laws gave me
$100, and told me I should spend it on something I'd really enjoy. I
just bought the third great roast. The three together totaled up to
about $100. Here's the one I made today. https://photos.app.goo.gl/WbCmL6cBd7zpwgEc8
Here's the first one. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z1rWEGFCDaMZnnzc6
All of them were 40% off regular price. The butcher said they were
loss leaders.
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