• Re: Dinner Tomorrow (11/23/2025)

    From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 2 01:25:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
    As long as she chops up some onions with the cabbage, it sounds like a
    good side to me! I prefer it tossed with boiled buttered noodles after.

    Tonight we had a family size pack of Aldi brand tortellini stuffed with
    a cheese filling. Side of frozen garlic bread. I made a quick pasta
    sauce with some anchovy paste for the tortellini, and it was a hit.
    There were a few wide eyes at the table when I asked everyone how they
    liked the anchovies, hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's in Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a can each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the clan. Also, use more. Further on down the road, you
    can start using fish sauce.
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  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 2 09:29:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
    As long as she chops up some onions with the cabbage, it sounds
    like a good side to me! I prefer it tossed with boiled buttered
    noodles after.

    Tonight we had a family size pack of Aldi brand tortellini stuffed
    with a cheese filling. Side of frozen garlic bread. I made a
    quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the tortellini, and
    it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the table when I asked
    everyone how they liked the anchovies, hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's in
    Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a can
    each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You
    should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the clan.
    Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start using fish
    sauce.
    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi. https://food52.com/recipes/5654-shrimp-scampi-with-linguine
    The scampi sauce is the star of the show in this dish. The extra-virgin
    olive oil is infused with anchovies, garlic, and crushed red pepper.
    Sautéing the anchovies causes them to melt and develop a somewhat nutty flavor-not a fishy taste at all. Fresh basil and parsley add a herbal
    aroma. and red pepper flakes give mild warmth. Finishing off the scampi
    sauce with white wine and butter makes it creamy.
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 3 03:44:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 09:29:36 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
    As long as she chops up some onions with the cabbage, it sounds
    like a good side to me! I prefer it tossed with boiled buttered
    noodles after.

    Tonight we had a family size pack of Aldi brand tortellini stuffed
    with a cheese filling. Side of frozen garlic bread. I made a
    quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the tortellini, and
    it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the table when I asked
    everyone how they liked the anchovies, hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's in
    Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a can
    each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You
    should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the clan.
    Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start using fish
    sauce.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    What about a chicken turkeys?
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 2 11:01:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 03:44:22 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 09:29:36 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
    As long as she chops up some onions with the cabbage, it sounds
    like a good side to me! I prefer it tossed with boiled buttered
    noodles after.

    Tonight we had a family size pack of Aldi brand tortellini
    stuffed with a cheese filling. Side of frozen garlic bread. I
    made a quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the
    tortellini, and it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the
    table when I asked everyone how they liked the anchovies,
    hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's
    in Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a
    can each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You
    should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the
    clan. Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start
    using fish sauce.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    What about a chicken turkeys?


    You meant a turducken perhaps?

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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 3 05:38:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 11:01:00 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:

    On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 03:44:22 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 09:29:36 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
    As long as she chops up some onions with the cabbage, it sounds
    like a good side to me! I prefer it tossed with boiled buttered
    noodles after.

    Tonight we had a family size pack of Aldi brand tortellini
    stuffed with a cheese filling. Side of frozen garlic bread. I
    made a quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the
    tortellini, and it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the
    table when I asked everyone how they liked the anchovies,
    hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's
    in Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a
    can each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You
    should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the
    clan. Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start
    using fish sauce.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    What about a chicken turkeys?


    You meant a turducken perhaps?

    Or a pig rabbits.
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 2 11:50:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:38:46 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 11:01:00 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:

    On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 03:44:22 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 09:29:36 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
    As long as she chops up some onions with the cabbage, it
    sounds like a good side to me! I prefer it tossed with
    boiled buttered noodles after.

    Tonight we had a family size pack of Aldi brand tortellini
    stuffed with a cheese filling. Side of frozen garlic bread.
    I made a quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the
    tortellini, and it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at
    the table when I asked everyone how they liked the anchovies,
    hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader
    Joe's in Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5
    dollars a can each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were
    they tasty. You should continue to make sauce with anchovies
    but don't tell the clan. Also, use more. Further on down the
    road, you can start using fish sauce.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    What about a chicken turkeys?


    You meant a turducken perhaps?

    Or a pig rabbits.


    Pig rarebit you say?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb06PvFGTC4


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  • From Michael Trew@michael.trew@att.net to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 15:16:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/2/2025 11:29 AM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:

    quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the tortellini, and
    it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the table when I asked
    everyone how they liked the anchovies, hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's in
    Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a can
    each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You
    should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the clan.
    Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start using fish
    sauce.

    Fish sauce sounds like advanced level. I think I will double the
    anchovy next time, and I won't tell them either.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    https://food52.com/recipes/5654-shrimp-scampi-with-linguine

    The scampi sauce is the star of the show in this dish. The extra-virgin
    olive oil is infused with anchovies, garlic, and crushed red pepper. Sautéing the anchovies causes them to melt and develop a somewhat nutty flavor-not a fishy taste at all. Fresh basil and parsley add a herbal
    aroma. and red pepper flakes give mild warmth. Finishing off the scampi
    sauce with white wine and butter makes it creamy.

    Thanks for that, anchovy paste is new to me, but I will try that the
    next time I make the dish.

    The family complains if I put more than a couple shakes of crushed red
    pepper, so I have to go light on it. I just douse it on top of my bowl
    at serving time.
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  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 13:27:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 15:16:52 -0500
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 11:29 AM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:

    quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the tortellini, and
    it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the table when I asked
    everyone how they liked the anchovies, hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's
    in Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a
    can each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You
    should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the
    clan. Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start
    using fish sauce.

    Fish sauce sounds like advanced level. I think I will double the
    anchovy next time, and I won't tell them either.
    Nice thing is they dissolve when sauteed leaving only the flavor.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    https://food52.com/recipes/5654-shrimp-scampi-with-linguine

    The scampi sauce is the star of the show in this dish. The
    extra-virgin olive oil is infused with anchovies, garlic, and
    crushed red pepper. Sautéing the anchovies causes them to melt and
    develop a somewhat nutty flavor-not a fishy taste at all. Fresh
    basil and parsley add a herbal aroma. and red pepper flakes give
    mild warmth. Finishing off the scampi sauce with white wine and
    butter makes it creamy.

    Thanks for that, anchovy paste is new to me, but I will try that the
    next time I make the dish.
    Like garlic paste in a tube it's a time saver.

    The family complains if I put more than a couple shakes of crushed
    red pepper, so I have to go light on it. I just douse it on top of
    my bowl at serving time.
    Same here, a shaker of red pepper flakes and one of fresh parmesan is mandatory.
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 17:17:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/4/2025 3:27 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 15:16:52 -0500
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    On 12/2/2025 11:29 AM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:

    quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the tortellini, and
    it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the table when I asked
    everyone how they liked the anchovies, hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's
    in Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a
    can each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You
    should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the
    clan. Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start
    using fish sauce.

    Fish sauce sounds like advanced level. I think I will double the
    anchovy next time, and I won't tell them either.

    Nice thing is they dissolve when sauteed leaving only the flavor.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    https://food52.com/recipes/5654-shrimp-scampi-with-linguine

    The scampi sauce is the star of the show in this dish. The
    extra-virgin olive oil is infused with anchovies, garlic, and
    crushed red pepper. Sautéing the anchovies causes them to melt and
    develop a somewhat nutty flavor-not a fishy taste at all. Fresh
    basil and parsley add a herbal aroma. and red pepper flakes give
    mild warmth. Finishing off the scampi sauce with white wine and
    butter makes it creamy.

    Thanks for that, anchovy paste is new to me, but I will try that the
    next time I make the dish.

    Like garlic paste in a tube it's a time saver.

    The family complains if I put more than a couple shakes of crushed
    red pepper, so I have to go light on it. I just douse it on top of
    my bowl at serving time.

    Same here, a shaker of red pepper flakes and one of fresh parmesan is mandatory.


    Parmesan in a shaker it dried out junk. Only takes a few seconds to
    grate as needed for full flavor.
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 09:22:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:17:22 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 12/4/2025 3:27 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 15:16:52 -0500
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    The family complains if I put more than a couple shakes of crushed
    red pepper, so I have to go light on it. I just douse it on top of
    my bowl at serving time.

    Same here, a shaker of red pepper flakes and one of fresh parmesan is
    mandatory.

    Parmesan in a shaker it dried out junk. Only takes a few seconds to
    grate as needed for full flavor.

    Floor sweepings, Popeye would probably have said.
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 15:27:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:17:22 -0500
    Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 12/4/2025 3:27 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 15:16:52 -0500
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    On 12/2/2025 11:29 AM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:

    quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the tortellini,
    and it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the table when
    I asked everyone how they liked the anchovies, hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's
    in Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a
    can each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty.
    You should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell
    the clan. Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start
    using fish sauce.

    Fish sauce sounds like advanced level. I think I will double the
    anchovy next time, and I won't tell them either.

    Nice thing is they dissolve when sauteed leaving only the flavor.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    https://food52.com/recipes/5654-shrimp-scampi-with-linguine

    The scampi sauce is the star of the show in this dish. The
    extra-virgin olive oil is infused with anchovies, garlic, and
    crushed red pepper. Sautéing the anchovies causes them to melt and
    develop a somewhat nutty flavor-not a fishy taste at all. Fresh
    basil and parsley add a herbal aroma. and red pepper flakes give
    mild warmth. Finishing off the scampi sauce with white wine and
    butter makes it creamy.

    Thanks for that, anchovy paste is new to me, but I will try that
    the next time I make the dish.

    Like garlic paste in a tube it's a time saver.

    The family complains if I put more than a couple shakes of crushed
    red pepper, so I have to go light on it. I just douse it on top of
    my bowl at serving time.

    Same here, a shaker of red pepper flakes and one of fresh parmesan
    is mandatory.


    Parmesan in a shaker it dried out junk. Only takes a few seconds to
    grate as needed for full flavor.
    The word "fresh" was your clue.
    The shaker jars each get a plastic lid cover.
    Red pepper flakes will also lose taste fast if left open to the air. https://texashomesteader.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Repurposing-parmesan-lid-for-any-size-standard-mouth-canning-jar-to-MYO-seasoning-mix-TexasHomesteader-438x1024.webp
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ball-Herb-Shaker-with-Lids-2-Count-Plastic/36029316 --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 15:30:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 09:22:05 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:17:22 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 12/4/2025 3:27 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 15:16:52 -0500
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    The family complains if I put more than a couple shakes of crushed
    red pepper, so I have to go light on it. I just douse it on top
    of my bowl at serving time.

    Same here, a shaker of red pepper flakes and one of fresh parmesan
    is mandatory.

    Parmesan in a shaker it dried out junk. Only takes a few seconds to
    grate as needed for full flavor.

    Floor sweepings, Popeye would probably have said.


    We save those for Sqwerty's Habitrail home.

    https://www.facebook.com/ALittleSliceofVintageLife/posts/i-had-a-habitrail-for-my-pet-hamster/902940562007783/

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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 17:37:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-04 5:17 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 12/4/2025 3:27 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    my bowl at serving time.

    Same here, a shaker of red pepper flakes and one of fresh parmesan is
    mandatory.


    Parmesan in a shaker it dried out junk.  Only takes a few seconds to
    grate as needed for full flavor.

    There is nothing like the real thing. When I was young the stuff on the
    can was all we knew. Shortly after we married we lived in an Italian
    community and were right next door to an Italian grocery. I once went
    there to get the ingredients for lasagna. The cashier made me put almost everything back and loaded me up with the real stuff. She had the
    butcher grate some Parmesan and Mozzerella. There was no going back.

    BTW, it isn't good enough just to have fresh grated cheese. It should be
    the real Parmegiano Reggiano. I once cheaped out when I found a locally
    made Pamesan cheese. It was about half the price of the imported stuff.
    It was better than the stuff in a sprinkle can but it was nothing like
    the Reggiano. A little of that goes a long way.
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  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 15:53:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:37:07 -0500
    Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    BTW, it isn't good enough just to have fresh grated cheese. It should
    be the real Parmegiano Reggiano.

    Depends, the Stella brand ain't bad.

    https://shop.frankferd.com/parmesan-wedge-stella-8oz.html
    PARMESAN, WEDGE Stella 8oz
    $5.95

    Sure is a lot cheaper than Eyetalian:

    https://fortunasausage.com/auricchio-parmigiano-reggiano-club-wedge/
    Auricchio Parmigiano Reggiano Club Wedge
    $32.95


    Of course both Bryan and Trump will agree with me.

    Bryan for the lower cost, and Trump because Stella's is 'Murican made.

    So is Frigo:

    https://www.frigocheese.com/en/products/parmesan/parmesan-wedge

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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 18:08:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Michael Trew wrote on 12/4/2025 2:16 PM:
    On 12/2/2025 11:29 AM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 01:25:58 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:

    quick pasta sauce with some anchovy paste for the tortellini, and
    it was a hit. There were a few wide eyes at the table when I asked
    everyone how they liked the anchovies, hahaha.

    My daughter brought me back 3 tins of anchovies from Trader Joe's in
    Las Vegas. She said they were $1.99 each. "They're 5 dollars a can
    each over here." I did not know that. Boy, were they tasty. You
    should continue to make sauce with anchovies but don't tell the clan.
    Also, use more. Further on down the road, you can start using fish
    sauce.

    Fish sauce sounds like advanced level.  I think I will double the
    anchovy next time, and I won't tell them either.

    Anchovy is the secret umammi in any good shrimp scampi.

    https://food52.com/recipes/5654-shrimp-scampi-with-linguine

    The scampi sauce is the star of the show in this dish. The extra-virgin
    olive oil is infused with anchovies, garlic, and crushed red pepper.
    Sautéing the anchovies causes them to melt and develop a somewhat nutty
    flavor-not a fishy taste at all. Fresh basil and parsley add a herbal
    aroma. and red pepper flakes give mild warmth. Finishing off the scampi
    sauce with white wine and butter makes it creamy.

    Thanks for that, anchovy paste is new to me, but I will try that the
    next time I make the dish.

    The family complains if I put more than a couple shakes of crushed red pepper, so I have to go light on it.  I just douse it on top of my bowl
    at serving time.

    I've had better luck with a few anchovies as opposed to paste. Don't
    use too much. You can up it if need be.

    The asian rotted fish sauce can work too, but I've seen some that was so putrefied I had the toss it. And some are so weak to be little more
    than soy sauce (or shoyu as Uncle Tojo calls it)

    And it's a good idea to not divulge your ingredients to squeamish family members.

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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 19:11:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/4/2025 5:53 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:37:07 -0500
    Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    BTW, it isn't good enough just to have fresh grated cheese. It should
    be the real Parmegiano Reggiano.

    Depends, the Stella brand ain't bad.

    https://shop.frankferd.com/parmesan-wedge-stella-8oz.html
    PARMESAN, WEDGE Stella 8oz
    $5.95

    Sure is a lot cheaper than Eyetalian:

    https://fortunasausage.com/auricchio-parmigiano-reggiano-club-wedge/ Auricchio Parmigiano Reggiano Club Wedge
    $32.95


    Of course both Bryan and Trump will agree with me.

    Bryan for the lower cost, and Trump because Stella's is 'Murican made.

    So is Frigo:

    https://www.frigocheese.com/en/products/parmesan/parmesan-wedge



    OK, so you are willing to compromise good quality for cost. I
    understand, people do that. Sadly, many have never had and appreciated
    great tasting Parm.

    I prefer the good stuff and grate as needed

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/collections/parmigiano-reggiano-pdo
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 11:27:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:08:38 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    Michael Trew wrote on 12/4/2025 2:16 PM:

    Thanks for that, anchovy paste is new to me, but I will try that the
    next time I make the dish.

    The family complains if I put more than a couple shakes of crushed red
    pepper, so I have to go light on it.  I just douse it on top of my bowl
    at serving time.

    I've had better luck with a few anchovies as opposed to paste. Don't
    use too much. You can up it if need be.

    The asian rotted fish sauce can work too, but I've seen some that was so >putrefied I had the toss it. And some are so weak to be little more
    than soy sauce (or shoyu as Uncle Tojo calls it)

    And it's a good idea to not divulge your ingredients to squeamish family >members.

    Yes, if you ever use fish sauce, don't show them how it's made.
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 18:30:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Dave Smith wrote on 12/4/2025 4:37 PM:
    On 2025-12-04 5:17 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 12/4/2025 3:27 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    my bowl at serving time.

    Same here, a shaker of red pepper flakes and one of fresh parmesan is
    mandatory.


    Parmesan in a shaker it dried out junk.  Only takes a few seconds to
    grate as needed for full flavor.

    There is nothing like the real thing.  When I was young the stuff on the
    can was all we knew. Shortly after we married we lived in an Italian community and were right next door to an Italian grocery. I once went
    there to get the ingredients for lasagna. The cashier made me put almost everything back and loaded me up with the real stuff. She had the
    butcher grate some Parmesan and Mozzerella. There was no going back.

    BTW, it isn't good enough just to have fresh grated cheese. It should be
    the real Parmegiano Reggiano. I once cheaped out when I found a locally
    made Pamesan cheese. It was about half the price of the imported stuff.
    It was better than the stuff in a sprinkle can but it was nothing like
    the Reggiano.  A little of that goes a long way.

    Thanks officer Dave. You always buy the finest shit and it's great that
    you share all this info with us!


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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 00:57:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 12/4/2025 5:53 PM, lomonosov wrote:

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:37:07 -0500
    Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    BTW, it isn't good enough just to have fresh grated cheese. It should
    be the real Parmegiano Reggiano.

    Depends, the Stella brand ain't bad.

    https://shop.frankferd.com/parmesan-wedge-stella-8oz.html
    PARMESAN, WEDGE Stella 8oz
    $5.95

    Sure is a lot cheaper than Eyetalian:

    https://fortunasausage.com/auricchio-parmigiano-reggiano-club-wedge/ Auricchio Parmigiano Reggiano Club Wedge
    $32.95


    Of course both Bryan and Trump will agree with me.

    Bryan for the lower cost, and Trump because Stella's is 'Murican made.

    So is Frigo:

    https://www.frigocheese.com/en/products/parmesan/parmesan-wedge



    OK, so you are willing to compromise good quality for cost. I
    understand, people do that. Sadly, many have never had and appreciated
    great tasting Parm.

    I prefer the good stuff and grate as needed

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/collections/parmigiano-reggiano-pdo


    I can definitely taste the difference in American made cow's milk
    parmesan and Italian sheep's milk parmesan. The sheep's milk has
    more twang to it. Good stuff.

    ~
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 12:18:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 00:57:18 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    OK, so you are willing to compromise good quality for cost. I
    understand, people do that. Sadly, many have never had and appreciated
    great tasting Parm.

    I prefer the good stuff and grate as needed

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/collections/parmigiano-reggiano-pdo

    I can definitely taste the difference in American made cow's milk
    parmesan and Italian sheep's milk parmesan. The sheep's milk has
    more twang to it. Good stuff.

    Parmesan is cow's milk cheese.
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 03:24:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 00:57:18 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    OK, so you are willing to compromise good quality for cost. I
    understand, people do that. Sadly, many have never had and appreciated
    great tasting Parm.

    I prefer the good stuff and grate as needed

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/collections/parmigiano-reggiano-pdo

    I can definitely taste the difference in American made cow's milk
    parmesan and Italian sheep's milk parmesan. The sheep's milk has
    more twang to it. Good stuff.

    Parmesan is cow's milk cheese.


    Why is some parmesan cheese made with sheep's milk?? It definitely
    has a sharper taste and it was more expensive than the cow's milk
    stuff. We did a taste test at work; most all liked the sheep's milk
    better, but some thought it too strong for them. I liked it a /lot/.

    ~
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 23:06:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-04 10:24 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:

    more twang to it. Good stuff.

    Parmesan is cow's milk cheese.


    Why is some parmesan cheese made with sheep's milk?? It definitely
    has a sharper taste and it was more expensive than the cow's milk
    stuff. We did a taste test at work; most all liked the sheep's milk
    better, but some thought it too strong for them. I liked it a /lot/.

    Parmesan is made with cow's milk. Pecorino is a similar sort of cheese
    but made with sheeps milk.
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  • From Graham@g.stereo@shaw.ca to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 22:08:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-04 8:24 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 00:57:18 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    OK, so you are willing to compromise good quality for cost. I
    understand, people do that. Sadly, many have never had and appreciated >>>> great tasting Parm.

    I prefer the good stuff and grate as needed

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/collections/parmigiano-reggiano-pdo

    I can definitely taste the difference in American made cow's milk
    parmesan and Italian sheep's milk parmesan. The sheep's milk has
    more twang to it. Good stuff.

    Parmesan is cow's milk cheese.


    Why is some parmesan cheese made with sheep's milk?? It definitely
    has a sharper taste and it was more expensive than the cow's milk
    stuff. We did a taste test at work; most all liked the sheep's milk
    better, but some thought it too strong for them. I liked it a /lot/.

    ~
    It couldn't be Parmigiano Reggiano, or Parmesan if made with sheep's
    milk. The regulations governing the name, area in which it is made
    and a host of other factors are very strict. Europeans take these
    rules very seriously.
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  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 4 22:37:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 19:11:24 -0500
    Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 12/4/2025 5:53 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:37:07 -0500
    Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    BTW, it isn't good enough just to have fresh grated cheese. It
    should be the real Parmegiano Reggiano.

    Depends, the Stella brand ain't bad.

    https://shop.frankferd.com/parmesan-wedge-stella-8oz.html
    PARMESAN, WEDGE Stella 8oz
    $5.95

    Sure is a lot cheaper than Eyetalian:

    https://fortunasausage.com/auricchio-parmigiano-reggiano-club-wedge/ Auricchio Parmigiano Reggiano Club Wedge
    $32.95


    Of course both Bryan and Trump will agree with me.

    Bryan for the lower cost, and Trump because Stella's is 'Murican
    made.

    So is Frigo:

    https://www.frigocheese.com/en/products/parmesan/parmesan-wedge



    OK, so you are willing to compromise good quality for cost.

    I buy what is readily available as needed, and splurge as I please.


    I
    understand, people do that. Sadly, many have never had and
    appreciated great tasting Parm.

    Any parm is a good parm, compared to domestic 'Murican no-taste cheese.

    Some regional dry queso's can stand in, if goat based.

    I prefer the good stuff and grate as needed

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/collections/parmigiano-reggiano-pdo

    All + marked, no worries.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 06:18:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:

    On 2025-12-04 8:24 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:

    I can definitely taste the difference in American made cow's milk
    parmesan and Italian sheep's milk parmesan. The sheep's milk has
    more twang to it. Good stuff.

    Parmesan is cow's milk cheese.


    Why is some parmesan cheese made with sheep's milk?? It definitely
    has a sharper taste and it was more expensive than the cow's milk
    stuff. We did a taste test at work; most all liked the sheep's milk better, but some thought it too strong for them. I liked it a /lot/.


    It couldn't be Parmigiano Reggiano, or Parmesan if made with sheep's
    milk. The regulations governing the name, area in which it is made
    and a host of other factors are very strict. Europeans take these
    rules very seriously.


    Maybe this stuff that I tasted was 'Murikan cheese and they decided
    to package it as parmesan. Anyway, it was still good and had a
    pleasant sharpness to it.

    ~
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  • From jmquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 07:43:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/5/2025 1:18 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:

    On 2025-12-04 8:24 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:

    I can definitely taste the difference in American made cow's milk
    parmesan and Italian sheep's milk parmesan. The sheep's milk has
    more twang to it. Good stuff.

    Parmesan is cow's milk cheese.


    Why is some parmesan cheese made with sheep's milk?? It definitely
    has a sharper taste and it was more expensive than the cow's milk
    stuff. We did a taste test at work; most all liked the sheep's milk
    better, but some thought it too strong for them. I liked it a /lot/.


    It couldn't be Parmigiano Reggiano, or Parmesan if made with sheep's
    milk. The regulations governing the name, area in which it is made
    and a host of other factors are very strict. Europeans take these
    rules very seriously.


    Maybe this stuff that I tasted was 'Murikan cheese and they decided
    to package it as parmesan. Anyway, it was still good and had a
    pleasant sharpness to it.

    ~
    As Dave suggested, perhaps it was Pecorino Romano rather than Parmesan.

    Jill
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 08:53:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/4/2025 4:53 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:37:07 -0500
    Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    BTW, it isn't good enough just to have fresh grated cheese. It should
    be the real Parmegiano Reggiano.

    Depends, the Stella brand ain't bad.

    https://shop.frankferd.com/parmesan-wedge-stella-8oz.html
    PARMESAN, WEDGE Stella 8oz
    $5.95

    Sure is a lot cheaper than Eyetalian:

    https://fortunasausage.com/auricchio-parmigiano-reggiano-club-wedge/ Auricchio Parmigiano Reggiano Club Wedge
    $32.95


    Of course both Bryan and Trump will agree with me.

    Bryan for the lower cost, and Trump because Stella's is 'Murican made.

    It's not just the lower cost. I don't want to exclusively use Reggiano
    nor Grana Padano. Variety counts for something too. Trump is more the pasteurized process American cheese that they put on McD's cheeseburgers
    type. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-donald-trump-serves-fast-food-college-athletes/story?id=61460255

    Obviously, those burgers were very old--though not *Joan old*. https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/help/faq/how-long-should-restaurants-keep-their-cooked-products-before-discarding-them.html>

    So is Frigo:

    https://www.frigocheese.com/en/products/parmesan/parmesan-wedge

    We have several wedges of Bel Gioioso Romano in the fridge. Tell you my current go to cheese, and while it's not a grana, it's worth mentioning. https://cabotcreamery.com/products/cheese-alpine-bar-dairy?variant=40898727477305


    They also make this, which is great for making cheese sauce. https://cabotcreamery.com/products/cheese-mac-and-cheese-shredded?variant=40898729639993

    We're very into dairy. Yesterday I went to the foodservice supply store
    and bought 3 pounds of unsalted butter, one pound of salted butter, one
    pound of unsalted Euro style (82%) butter and one quart of 40% cream.
    That was it.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Janet@nobody@home.com to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 15:06:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    In article <1764905053-4742@newsgrouper.org>,
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net says...

    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 00:57:18 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    OK, so you are willing to compromise good quality for cost. I
    understand, people do that. Sadly, many have never had and appreciated >> great tasting Parm.

    I prefer the good stuff and grate as needed

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/

    https://www.parmashop.com/en/collections/parmigiano-reggiano-pdo

    I can definitely taste the difference in American made cow's milk >parmesan and Italian sheep's milk parmesan. The sheep's milk has
    more twang to it. Good stuff.

    Parmesan is cow's milk cheese.


    Why is some parmesan cheese made with sheep's milk??

    It isn't. You're thinking of pecorino (made from sheeps
    milk,)


    Janet UK
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  • From lomonosov@bubbles@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Fri Dec 5 11:14:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 08:53:57 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/4/2025 4:53 PM, lomonosov wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 17:37:07 -0500
    Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    BTW, it isn't good enough just to have fresh grated cheese. It
    should be the real Parmegiano Reggiano.

    Depends, the Stella brand ain't bad.

    https://shop.frankferd.com/parmesan-wedge-stella-8oz.html
    PARMESAN, WEDGE Stella 8oz
    $5.95

    Sure is a lot cheaper than Eyetalian:

    https://fortunasausage.com/auricchio-parmigiano-reggiano-club-wedge/ Auricchio Parmigiano Reggiano Club Wedge
    $32.95


    Of course both Bryan and Trump will agree with me.

    Bryan for the lower cost, and Trump because Stella's is 'Murican
    made.

    It's not just the lower cost. I don't want to exclusively use
    Reggiano nor Grana Padano. Variety counts for something too. Trump is
    more the pasteurized process American cheese that they put on McD's cheeseburgers type. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-donald-trump-serves-fast-food-college-athletes/story?id=61460255
    And when he pulls that on older, wiser marks: https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/trump-mcdonalds-rfk-big-mac-34132793
    RFK looks like he was forced to open a land mine.
    Obviously, those burgers were very old--though not *Joan old*. https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/help/faq/how-long-should-restaurants-keep-their-cooked-products-before-discarding-them.html>

    So is Frigo:

    https://www.frigocheese.com/en/products/parmesan/parmesan-wedge

    We have several wedges of Bel Gioioso Romano in the fridge. Tell you
    my current go to cheese, and while it's not a grana, it's worth
    mentioning. https://cabotcreamery.com/products/cheese-alpine-bar-dairy?variant=40898727477305
    I like Bel Gioso too, nothing wrong with it at all.
    From Cabot I have regularly enjoyed: https://cabotcreamery.com/products/cheese-gouda-bar-dairy https://cabotcreamery.com/products/cheese-vermont-sharp-yellow-bar-dairy?variant=40898736685113
    They also make this, which is great for making cheese sauce. https://cabotcreamery.com/products/cheese-mac-and-cheese-shredded?variant=40898729639993
    Thx, that's worth a look too.

    We're very into dairy. Yesterday I went to the foodservice supply
    store and bought 3 pounds of unsalted butter, one pound of salted
    butter, one pound of unsalted Euro style (82%) butter and one quart
    of 40% cream. That was it.
    I do the euro style as well, from Wal Mart: https://www.walmart.com/browse/0?facet=brand:Plugra https://www.walmart.com/c/brand/danish-creamery
    And anything Tillamook is outstanding: https://www.walmart.com/brand/tillamook/10039955
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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sat Dec 6 18:41:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
    We have several wedges of Bel Gioioso Romano in the fridge. Tell you my current go to cheese, and while it's not a grana, it's worth mentioning. https://cabotcreamery.com/products/cheese-alpine-bar-dairy?variant=40898727477305


    They also make this, which is great for making cheese sauce. https://cabotcreamery.com/products/cheese-mac-and-cheese-shredded?variant=40898729639993

    We're very into dairy. Yesterday I went to the foodservice supply store
    and bought 3 pounds of unsalted butter, one pound of salted butter, one pound of unsalted Euro style (82%) butter and one quart of 40% cream.
    That was it.


    My daughter is into cheese. She was cutting into a big block of Cheddar that surprised me the other night. I thought it was Velveeta. She also has hard cheeses. I tried using her microplane on some random cheese I found in the fridge.
    It was a lot of work. I'm too old for this shit. Just hand me a green jar and be
    done with it. Having someone standing nearby that will grate some cheese onto my
    plate until I wave her away would also be fine with me. After all, I'm not a barbarian - I enjoy the finer things in life too.
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