I've found you a new wood working project.I like it!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
I've found you a new wood working project.Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished: https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished: https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished: https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91kHere are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished: https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
~
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91kHere are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished: https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
~
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Oh nice, nice!! Very stunning.Thanks, Joan!! I've passed that video to another woodworker
~
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Jill!!. Now I have to find a place to sell them.
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Those are fantastic! You do very good work, Graham!
Jill
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I delivered
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Very nice!
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a mug of tea.
On 2025-12-01 7:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I delivered
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Very nice!
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a mug of
tea.
some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment. Not only
that but Canada Post informed me that if I were to send a xmas present
to someone in the USA, I would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, >that doesn't affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork
is a nightmare.
On 2025-12-01 7:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Very nice!Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I delivered
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a mug
of tea.
some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment. Not only
that but Canada Post informed me that if I were to send a xmas present
to someone in the USA, I would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork
is a nightmare.
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-01 7:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Very nice!
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a
mug of tea.
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA
at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me that if I
were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I would have to
pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect commercial
operations but apparently the paperwork is a nightmare.
Aren't gifts Trump Tariff exempt?
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain wood and >furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to 50%
in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves >potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption for >shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However, //original
artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made items may be exempt
from new tariffs// if they meet the conditions of the United >States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much easier to >blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't it?
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 06:47:38 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-01 7:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Very nice!
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a
mug of tea.
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA
at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me that if I
were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I would have to
pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect commercial
operations but apparently the paperwork is a nightmare.
Aren't gifts Trump Tariff exempt?
Righteeo!
AI Overview
Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves
potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption for >shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However, original
artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made items may be exempt
from new tariffs if they meet the conditions of the United >States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:12:01 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain wood
and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to
50% in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves >potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption for >shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However, //original
artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made items may be
exempt from new tariffs// if they meet the conditions of the United >States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
Trump made a huge mess with his tariffs.
The man is too dumb to poop
and so are the people who vote for him.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:12:32 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 06:47:38 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-01 7:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Very nice!
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a
mug of tea.
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the
USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me that
if I were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I would
have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect
commercial operations but apparently the paperwork is a
nightmare.
Aren't gifts Trump Tariff exempt?
Righteeo!
AI Overview
Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves >potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption for >shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However, original
artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made items may be
exempt from new tariffs if they meet the conditions of the United >States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
The question is whether something's a gift or a commercially sold
item.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain wood and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to 50%
in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption for shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However, //original
artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made items may be exempt
from new tariffs// if they meet the conditions of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't it?
Now I have to find a place to sell them.
On 12/2/2025 4:12 PM, lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain wood
and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to
50% in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption
for shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However,
//original artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made
items may be exempt from new tariffs// if they meet the conditions
of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
You make it sound simple, but it is not.
Yes, the blame goes to the guy that started the tariffs.
Small businesses are getting hurt, as well as buyers.
I can no longer buy from a favorite source.
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
Now I have to find a place to sell them.
If ‘twere me, I’d start with a couple of popular jewelers. Nice gift
to accompany a new ring.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't it?
On 2025-12-01 8:00 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Oh nice, nice!! Very stunning.
Thanks, Joan!! I've passed that video to another woodworker
and also my son. It's a really neat idea.
On 2025-12-02 4:12 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't it?
Of course you don't want to do the legwork.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 16:38:15 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 12/2/2025 4:12 PM, lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain wood
and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to
50% in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves
potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption
for shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However,
//original artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made
items may be exempt from new tariffs// if they meet the conditions
of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
You make it sound simple, but it is not.
Are you Canajun?
Yes, the blame goes to the guy that started the tariffs.
That would be to each trade protectionist foreign nation that hit us
with import duties first, and for many decades too.
Small businesses are getting hurt, as well as buyers.
Anecdotal.
I can no longer buy from a favorite source.
Anecdotal.
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:23:58 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:12:01 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain wood
and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to
50% in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves
potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption for
shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However, //original
artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made items may be
exempt from new tariffs// if they meet the conditions of the United
States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
Trump made a huge mess with his tariffs.
Not for us he didn't.
The man is too dumb to poop
and so are the people who vote for him.
NATO freleoaders also got the tab - FINALLY!
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:24:53 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The question is whether something's a gift or a commercially sold
item.
Did you read the USMCA?
Are there any exceptions to USMCA rules?
To qualify for USMCA tariff exemptions, products must meet detailed
rules of origin. The two main requirements are: Regional Value Content
(RVC): A minimum percentage of the product's value must originate from
USMCA countries. For example, vehicles must contain at least 75%
regional content to qualify.Jun 12, 2025
Do tariffs apply to gifts?
AI Overview
Sending to USA? No problem. Gifts under $100 are tariff free ...
Yes, tariffs can apply to gifts, but they are often exempt up to a
certain value, provided certain conditions are met. In the United
States, gifts valued at $100 or less are typically exempt from duties
and taxes, as long as they are sent from one individual to another and
the recipient doesn't receive more than that amount in a single day. If
a gift exceeds this value or is sent commercially, tariffs will likely
apply.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:28:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:23:58 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:12:01 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain wood
and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to
50% in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves
potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption for
shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However, //original
artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made items may be
exempt from new tariffs// if they meet the conditions of the United
States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
Trump made a huge mess with his tariffs.
Not for us he didn't.
You're paying the tariffs. It's basically tax.
The man is too dumb to poop
and so are the people who vote for him.
NATO freleoaders also got the tab - FINALLY!
That's one thing I agree with. Also because of Putin's behaviour.
On 2025-12-01 7:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I delivered
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Very nice!
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a mug
of tea.
some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment. Not only
that but Canada Post informed me that if I were to send a xmas present
to someone in the USA, I would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork
is a nightmare.
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
Now I have to find a place to sell them.
If ‘twere me, I’d start with a couple of popular jewelers. Nice gift to accompany a new ring.
On 2025-12-01 7:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I delivered
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Very nice!
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a mug
of tea.
some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment. Not only
that but Canada Post informed me that if I were to send a xmas present
to someone in the USA, I would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork
is a nightmare.
On 12/2/2025 1:42 PM, Graham wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I delivered
some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment. Not only
that but Canada Post informed me that if I were to send a xmas present
to someone in the USA, I would have to pay the duty up front! Of course,
that doesn't affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork
is a nightmare.
There are folks who voted for "President Spray-tan" THREE TIMES. Anyone
who did so is a PIECE OF SHIT. What he did to Canada is bad, but what he
did to the USA is far worse. Anyone who treats those pieces of shit with >anything better than contempt is part of the problem.
Hey, I'm all for repentance and forgiveness, but there's no forgiveness
w/o repentance. Most of these stupid MAGA folks are ostensibly
Christian, so they should understand that concept unless they're stupid. >OOPS, we already figured they were stupid. Part of it, you can bet, is
that the idea of a negro woman as president...
Their "Spray-tan" PIECE OF SHIT is sexual predator, a racist, a guy who >mocks disabled persons, and who has been Hellbent upon destroying our
most distinguished scientific institutions. This sociopath has gone on
the warpath against Canada and Mexico.
Why the fuck should any PIECE OF SHIT MAGA person be treated with respect?
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked them.
It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for Trump is that
(he says) he's against abortion. I specifically remember one quote
from the Americans: "We know Trump's not perfect, but if God chose him
to do His work, who are we to say No?"
On 2025-12-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked them.
It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for Trump is that
(he says) he's against abortion. I specifically remember one quote
from the Americans: "We know Trump's not perfect, but if God chose him
to do His work, who are we to say No?"
Trump will say anything to anybody in order to get what he wants.
Once he has what he wants, he discards them like a used tissue.
On 2025-12-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked them.
It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for Trump is that
(he says) he's against abortion. I specifically remember one quote
from the Americans: "We know Trump's not perfect, but if God chose him
to do His work, who are we to say No?"
Trump will say anything to anybody in order to get what he wants.
Once he has what he wants, he discards them like a used tissue.
On 2025-12-02 4:12 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Ottawa calling from across the divide: https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2025/11/26/prime-minister-carney-announces-new-measures-protect-and-transformI think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
Of course you don't want to do the legwork. You might be called to
task to provide examples of Carney's protectionism.
Trump has aYou misspelled trade protectionism again.
pickle up his butt about the supply management system
that CanadaSo it _IS_ trade protectionism then.
uses to stabilize supplies and prices. It provides stability for the
farmers. There is provision for pretty steep tariffs on imported
dairy products but not until they exceed a certain threshold.
No oneWhilst dumping Canajun dairy into our markets?
has ever paid any of those tariffs because they have imported enough
American dairy to even come close to having to pay.
Meanwhile the US government subsidizes it's agriculture sector
allowing it to dump it's products in other countries.
On 12/2/2025 4:50 PM, lomonosov wrote:Boo fucking hoo.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 16:38:15 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 12/2/2025 4:12 PM, lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain
wood and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to
50% in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA
involves potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis
exemption for shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated.
However, //original artworks are generally duty-free, and
Canadian-made items may be exempt from new tariffs// if they meet
the conditions of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement
(USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
You make it sound simple, but it is not.
Are you Canajun?
Yes, the blame goes to the guy that started the tariffs.
That would be to each trade protectionist foreign nation that hit us
with import duties first, and for many decades too.
Small businesses are getting hurt, as well as buyers.
Anecdotal.
I can no longer buy from a favorite source.
Anecdotal.
I've been buying from Tea Traded for about 12 years. Not they cannot
easily ship to the US. Yes, that is my true anecdote. It worked
until Trump effed up.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:28:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:23:58 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:12:01 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain
wood and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to
50% in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA
involves potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis
exemption for shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated.
However, //original artworks are generally duty-free, and
Canadian-made items may be exempt from new tariffs// if they meet
the conditions of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement
(USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
Trump made a huge mess with his tariffs.
Not for us he didn't.
You're paying the tariffs. It's basically tax.
The man is too dumb to poop
and so are the people who vote for him.
NATO freleoaders also got the tab - FINALLY!
That's one thing I agree with. Also because of Putin's behaviour.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:34:56 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:24:53 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The question is whether something's a gift or a commercially sold
item.
Did you read the USMCA?
Are there any exceptions to USMCA rules?
To qualify for USMCA tariff exemptions, products must meet detailed
rules of origin. The two main requirements are: Regional Value
Content (RVC): A minimum percentage of the product's value must
originate from USMCA countries. For example, vehicles must contain
at least 75% regional content to qualify.Jun 12, 2025
Do tariffs apply to gifts?
AI Overview
Sending to USA? No problem. Gifts under $100 are tariff free ...
Yes, tariffs can apply to gifts, but they are often exempt up to a
certain value, provided certain conditions are met. In the United
States, gifts valued at $100 or less are typically exempt from duties
and taxes, as long as they are sent from one individual to another
and the recipient doesn't receive more than that amount in a single
day. If a gift exceeds this value or is sent commercially, tariffs
will likely apply.
So gifts are exempt, as I said.
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 09:44:38 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:28:16 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:23:58 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:12:01 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain
wood and furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase
to 50% in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA
involves potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis
exemption for shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated.
However, //original artworks are generally duty-free, and
Canadian-made items may be exempt from new tariffs// if they
meet the conditions of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement
(USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
Trump made a huge mess with his tariffs.
Not for us he didn't.
You're paying the tariffs. It's basically tax.
The man is too dumb to poop
and so are the people who vote for him.
NATO freleoaders also got the tab - FINALLY!
That's one thing I agree with. Also because of Putin's behaviour.
Countries that are not making the currently agreed 2% of GDP payment
to NATO:
Spain, Canada, Belgium, Luxembourg, Slovenia, Italy, Portugal,
Croatia.
On 12/2/2025 2:42 PM, Graham wrote:That's so sense of you, and him.
On 2025-12-01 7:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 12/1/2025 8:47 PM, Graham wrote:Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
On 2025-12-01 6:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here are some spherical ring boxes I recently finished:
I've found you a new wood working project.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5VZOCNQX91k
~
https://postimg.cc/kRJTCZdP
Very nice!
BTW, I use the tea scoop you made every day. Perfect size for a
mug of tea.
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA
at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me that if I
were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I would have to
pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect commercial
operations but apparently the paperwork is a nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
Their "Spray-tan" PIECE OF SHIT is sexual predatorhttps://nypost.com/2022/07/08/portrait-of-the-bidens-a-family-as-dysfunctional-as-the-kennedys-and-protected-by-the-press/
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked them.
It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for Trump is that
(he says) he's against abortion. I specifically remember one quote
from the Americans: "We know Trump's not perfect, but if God chose him
to do His work, who are we to say No?"
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 09:46:32 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:34:56 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:24:53 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The question is whether something's a gift or a commercially sold
item.
Did you read the USMCA?
Are there any exceptions to USMCA rules?
To qualify for USMCA tariff exemptions, products must meet detailed
rules of origin. The two main requirements are: Regional Value
Content (RVC): A minimum percentage of the product's value must
originate from USMCA countries. For example, vehicles must contain
at least 75% regional content to qualify.Jun 12, 2025
Do tariffs apply to gifts?
AI Overview
Sending to USA? No problem. Gifts under $100 are tariff free ...
Yes, tariffs can apply to gifts, but they are often exempt up to a
certain value, provided certain conditions are met. In the United
States, gifts valued at $100 or less are typically exempt from duties
and taxes, as long as they are sent from one individual to another
and the recipient doesn't receive more than that amount in a single
day. If a gift exceeds this value or is sent commercially, tariffs
will likely apply.
So gifts are exempt, as I said.
So a private Bitcoin or XRP payment and an art bowl sent from
Canajia and identified as a "gift" slide past any tariff bogeyman,
now don't they?
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 09:54:26 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Countries that are not making the currently agreed 2% of GDP payment
to NATO:
Spain, Canada, Belgium, Luxembourg, Slovenia, Italy, Portugal,
Croatia.
Wrong - again!
Results under Trump's first term: During and after Trump's first presidency, >non-U.S. NATO members significantly increased their defense budgets.
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg credited Trump's focus with
bringing a "new sense of urgency" and a substantial rise in spending.
By 2024, a record number of countries (23 out of 32) were expected to
meet or exceed the 2% target, up from only three in 2014.
The New 5% Commitment
At a summit in The Hague in June 2025, NATO leaders formally agreed to a new, more ambitious spending goal of 5% of GDP on defense and security by 2035. This new figure is broken down into:
3.5% for core military needs (troops, weapons, etc.), an increase from the previous 2% target.
1.5% for "militarily adjacent" projects such as improving infrastructure (roads, bridges, ports), cybersecurity, and civic resilience.
This new commitment was widely seen as a major political victory for
Trump, who had been pushing for the higher number. Spain was the only
nation to initially raise reservations about the 5% target, though it
later signed the joint statement.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 12/2/2025 2:42 PM, Graham wrote:
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't enter your
flat and empty head, now do they?
On 2025-12-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked
them. It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for
Trump is that (he says) he's against abortion. I specifically
remember one quote from the Americans: "We know Trump's not
perfect, but if God chose him to do His work, who are we to say
No?"
Trump will say anything to anybody in order to get what he wants.
Once he has what he wants, he discards them like a used tissue.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 09:46:28 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-12-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked
them. It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for
Trump is that (he says) he's against abortion. I specifically
remember one quote from the Americans: "We know Trump's not
perfect, but if God chose him to do His work, who are we to say
No?"
Trump will say anything to anybody in order to get what he wants.
Once he has what he wants, he discards them like a used tissue.
Yes, and the used tissues don't realise it. Still DO NOT realise it.
It's difficult to believe.
On 2025-12-03 4:46 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked them.
It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for Trump is that
(he says) he's against abortion. I specifically remember one quote
from the Americans: "We know Trump's not perfect, but if God chose him
to do His work, who are we to say No?"
Trump will say anything to anybody in order to get what he wants.
Once he has what he wants, he discards them like a used tissue.
We saw that on the news last night when they were being confronted about ordering a second strike on an alleged drug running boat. When the heat
was turned up it they threw the naval commander under the bus. They
need to be reminded that just following orders didn't work at the
Nuremburg trials.
On 2025-12-03 4:46 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked
them. It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for
Trump is that (he says) he's against abortion. I specifically
remember one quote from the Americans: "We know Trump's not
perfect, but if God chose him to do His work, who are we to say
No?"
Trump will say anything to anybody in order to get what he wants.
Once he has what he wants, he discards them like a used tissue.
We saw that on the news last night when they were being confronted
about ordering a second strike on an alleged drug running boat. When
the heat was turned up it they threw the naval commander under the
bus. They need to be reminded that just following orders didn't work
at the Nuremburg trials.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:43:45 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 09:46:32 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:34:56 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:24:53 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The question is whether something's a gift or a commercially
sold item.
Did you read the USMCA?
Are there any exceptions to USMCA rules?
To qualify for USMCA tariff exemptions, products must meet
detailed rules of origin. The two main requirements are: Regional
Value Content (RVC): A minimum percentage of the product's value
must originate from USMCA countries. For example, vehicles must
contain at least 75% regional content to qualify.Jun 12, 2025
Do tariffs apply to gifts?
AI Overview
Sending to USA? No problem. Gifts under $100 are tariff free ...
Yes, tariffs can apply to gifts, but they are often exempt up to a
certain value, provided certain conditions are met. In the United
States, gifts valued at $100 or less are typically exempt from
duties and taxes, as long as they are sent from one individual to
another and the recipient doesn't receive more than that amount
in a single day. If a gift exceeds this value or is sent
commercially, tariffs will likely apply.
So gifts are exempt, as I said.
So a private Bitcoin or XRP payment and an art bowl sent from
Canajia and identified as a "gift" slide past any tariff bogeyman,
now don't they?
Don't drink so much.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:45:03 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 09:54:26 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Countries that are not making the currently agreed 2% of GDP
payment to NATO:
Spain, Canada, Belgium, Luxembourg, Slovenia, Italy, Portugal,
Croatia.
Wrong - again!
Results under Trump's first term: During and after Trump's first >presidency, non-U.S. NATO members significantly increased their
defense budgets. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg credited
Trump's focus with bringing a "new sense of urgency" and a
substantial rise in spending. By 2024, a record number of countries
(23 out of 32) were expected to meet or exceed the 2% target, up
from only three in 2014.
Right, and I listed 8 countries that don't meet that 2% target.
The New 5% Commitment
At a summit in The Hague in June 2025, NATO leaders formally agreed
to a new, more ambitious spending goal of 5% of GDP on defense and
security by 2035. This new figure is broken down into: 3.5% for core >military needs (troops, weapons, etc.), an increase from the
previous 2% target. 1.5% for "militarily adjacent" projects such as >improving infrastructure (roads, bridges, ports), cybersecurity, and
civic resilience. This new commitment was widely seen as a major
political victory for Trump, who had been pushing for the higher
number. Spain was the only nation to initially raise reservations
about the 5% target, though it later signed the joint statement.
Right, that's the new target they recently agreed on. What's your
point? Why do you always quote text that says the same thing I just
said? And with a misplaced air of knowing better?
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:47:24 -0700, lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 12/2/2025 2:42 PM, Graham wrote:
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't enter
your flat and empty head, now do they?
Can't you just say what you have to say instead of quoting endless
texts that nobody's going to read?
On 2025-12-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 4:46 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
A few years ago, the Dutch Evangelical Channel wanted to know why
their American brethren and sisters voted for Trump. They asked
them. It turned out that one of their main reasons to vote for
Trump is that (he says) he's against abortion. I specifically
remember one quote from the Americans: "We know Trump's not
perfect, but if God chose him to do His work, who are we to say
No?"
Trump will say anything to anybody in order to get what he wants.
Once he has what he wants, he discards them like a used tissue.
We saw that on the news last night when they were being confronted
about ordering a second strike on an alleged drug running boat.
When the heat was turned up it they threw the naval commander under
the bus. They need to be reminded that just following orders
didn't work at the Nuremburg trials.
They were reminded, by the six members of Congress whom Trump
now wants executed for treason.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 16:59:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-02 4:12 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
Of course you don't want to do the legwork. You might be called to
task to provide examples of Carney's protectionism.
Ottawa calling from across the divide:
https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2025/11/26/prime-minister-carney-announces-new-measures-protect-and-transform
November 26, 2025
Ottawa, Ontario
The world is changing rapidly. The United States, the world’s largest economy, is fundamentally reshaping all its trade relationships, causing major disruption and upheaval for Canadians. It is time to transform our economy from one that is reliant on a single trade partner to one that is stronger, more self-sufficient, and resilient to global shocks. That means working with urgency and determination to transform our strategic industries so they can adapt, compete, and win in this new global environment.
Canada’s new government has moved quickly to protect and strengthen the sectors most affected by U.S. tariffs – introducing new measures to help workers gain new skills, support businesses as they modernise and diversify, and boost domestic demand for Canadian goods. As we build the economy of the future, we’re ensuring workers and industries are ready to seize its opportunities.
Building on previously announced measures to help transform the Canadian steel and softwood lumber industries, the following new initiatives were announced today.
Canada’s new government will:
Further limit foreign steel imports to ensure that Canadian steel producers have better access to the domestic market
Canada will tighten the tariff rate quota levels for steel products from non-free trade agreement (FTA) partners from 50% to 20% of 2024 levels.
For non-CUSMA partners with which we have an FTA, Canada will reduce tariff rate quota levels for steel products from 100% to 75% of 2024 levels.
Canada will impose a global 25% tariff on targeted imported steel-derivative products such as wind towers, prefabricated buildings, fasteners, and wires.
Canada will also toughen our border measures to combat foreign steel dumping and verify compliance with applicable surtaxes. To do so, we will equip the Canada Border Services Agency with a dedicated steel compliance team, enhanced detection of false declarations, and an expanded online reporting tool.
To move away from relying on imported steel and to give Canadian companies time to adjust their supply chains to use Canadian steel, the temporary remission of Canadian tariffs on imports will end on January 31, 2026, for steel used in Canada for manufacturing, food and beverage packaging, and agricultural production.
These measures will boost the competitiveness of Canadian steel producers by protecting them against trade diversion. They will also unlock over $1 billion in new domestic demand for Canadian steel.
Make it easier to build with Canadian steel and Canadian lumber
To make it more affordable to transport Canadian steel and lumber across the country, Canada will work with railway companies to cut freight rates for transporting Canadian steel and lumber interprovincially by 50%, beginning in Spring 2026.
To maximise the use of Canadian softwood lumber in housing, Build Canada Homes will prioritise shovel-ready, multi-year projects that can begin within 12 months and that use Canadian wood products.
With a funding allocation of roughly $700 million next year, Build Canada Homes – our new federal homebuilding agency – alone will create $70 to $140 million of new demand for Canadian wood products – and attract private and provincial capital to multiply its impact.
Finally, Canada’s new government will implement our Buy Canadian Policy later this year, which requires that all contracts worth over $25 million prioritise Canadian materials – including steel and lumber. This will also apply across federal grants and contributions programs.
Increase protections for Canadian steel and lumber workers and businesses so they can adapt and thrive in this new global landscape
Canada will earmark more than $100 million over two years, starting in 2025-2026, in program costs to provide support to eligible employers in all sectors with an active Work-Sharing agreement and who commit to supporting training for employees working reduced hours. This measure will increase the income replacement for eligible workers, helping up to 26,000 Canadian workers in various sectors, including steel and lumber.
To ensure companies have the financing and credit support they need to maintain and restructure their operations during this period of transformation, Canada will provide an additional $500 million to the Business Development Bank of Canada (BDC) Softwood Lumber Guarantee Program.
To support softwood lumber firms facing liquidity pressures, Canada will earmark $500 million in funding under the Large Enterprise Tariff Loan facility.
To make it easier for the forestry sector to access federal support, we will establish a single window to applications – a one-stop shop to help companies navigate our suite of support programs.
To examine and report on how the forest industry can maintain its competitiveness over the long-term, Canada will launch a Canadian Forest Sector Transformation Task Force. This Task Force will seek input and recommendations from provinces, territories, and industry on managing the sector’s transformation.
At this critical moment in Canada’s history, we are moving from reliance to resilience. Using Canadian steel and Canadian lumber, we will build Canada strong.
Trump has a
pickle up his butt about the supply management system
You misspelled trade protectionism again.
that Canada
uses to stabilize supplies and prices. It provides stability for the
farmers. There is provision for pretty steep tariffs on imported
dairy products but not until they exceed a certain threshold.
So it _IS_ trade protectionism then.
No one
has ever paid any of those tariffs because they have imported enough
American dairy to even come close to having to pay.
Whilst dumping Canajun dairy into our markets?
Eh?
https://www.farmprogress.com/management/does-canada-really-charge-a-270-tariff-on-milk-
Does Canada really charge 270% on milk?
On some dairy imports, yes. Canada essentially allows two avenues for dairy imports -- those within quota, and surplus stuff. It’s the latter where tariffs spike, because Canada’s whole system is built to avoid a surplus -- hence its name, “supply management.”
Take milk, for instance. Within quota, the tariff is 7.5%. Over-quota
milk faces a 241% tariff. Other over-quota rates include blended dairy
powder at 270%. Duties rise to as high as 314% for other products,
according to data from the World Trade Organization. Canadian officials
argue that all countries subsidize dairy, including the U.S. -- Canada essentially does so indirectly by closing its borders and capping
production.
https://cheesereporter.com/news/2025/08/01/us-dairy-groups-criticize-nonfat-milk-solids-policies-of-canada-others-at-usitc-hearing/
Washington—The nonfat milk solids policies of Canada, the European
Union, India and Turkey were criticized by several dairy organizations
at a US International Trade Commission (USITC) hearing here Monday.
“Out of the leading global suppliers to the world nonfat milk solids markets, Canada’s distortionary policies are currently the most impactful and harmful on those markets,” according to USDEC and NMPF. “Canadian government policies that drive unsustainable surpluses are coupled with extensive industry subsidization and a complex pricing structure that leads to artificially low-priced products pushed out into the international market.
“The egregiously anticompetitive nature of the Canadian policies harm American suppliers by undercutting US prices globally while simultaneously denying market access into Canada, both of which are clear contraventions of its trade agreements and international trade rules,” NMPF and USDEC added.
Meanwhile, the European Union (EU) has built a casein production system
that was substantially subsidized by European taxpayers under the
Common Agriculture Policy (CAP). US exporters are still dealing with
the resulting consequences of the EU’s anticompetitive policies that
have propped up its domestic casein manufacturers, USDEC and NMPF noted.
Meanwhile the US government subsidizes it's agriculture sector
allowing it to dump it's products in other countries.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/23/canada-tariffs-trump-00663710
Trump quietly holds off on Canada tariff increase
11/23/2025 04:00 PM EST
President Donald Trump has yet to follow through on his threat to impose an additional 10 percent tariff on Canadian imports, four weeks after he halted “all trade negotiations” over an anti-tariff ad the province of Ontario ran during the Major League Baseball World Series.
“Because of their serious misrepresentation of the facts, and hostile act, I am increasing the Tariff on Canada by 10% over and above what they are paying now,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on Oct. 25, after announcing two days earlier that he was terminating trade talks over the the ”egregious” ad.
Trump’s announcement had Canadian exporters preparing for a worst-case scenario: a sweeping levy layered on top of existing double-digit duties, which would have been particularly painful for industries like autos, where components cross the border multiple times before reaching their final form.
But to date, the Trump administration hasn’t sent any official documentation ordering U.S. Customs and Border Protection to enforce
the new, higher duty, and U.S. importers have not received any new
regulatory guidance.
The White House did not say whether it still plans to impose the tariff when asked for comment. But a separate U.S. official suggested the Trump administration had opted to hold off on additional duties — which would have sent tariffs on Canadian goods to 45 percent — and instead continue to dangle the threat as the two sides gear up for future talks.
“The Canadians know what’s on the table,” said the official, granted anonymity to discuss private conversat
On 2025-12-03 12:31 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 16:59:50 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-02 4:12 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much
easier to blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't
it?
Of course you don't want to do the legwork. You might be called to
task to provide examples of Carney's protectionism.
Ottawa calling from across the divide:
https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2025/11/26/prime-minister-carney-announces-new-measures-protect-and-transform
November 26, 2025
Ottawa, Ontario
The world is changing rapidly. The United States, the world’s
largest economy, is fundamentally reshaping all its trade
relationships, causing major disruption and upheaval for Canadians.
It is time to transform our economy from one that is reliant on a
single trade partner to one that is stronger, more self-sufficient,
and resilient to global shocks. That means working with urgency and determination to transform our strategic industries so they can
adapt, compete, and win in this new global environment.
Canada’s new government has moved quickly to protect and strengthen
the sectors most affected by U.S. tariffs – introducing new
measures to help workers gain new skills, support businesses as
they modernise and diversify, and boost domestic demand for
Canadian goods. As we build the economy of the future, we’re
ensuring workers and industries are ready to seize its
opportunities.
Building on previously announced measures to help transform the
Canadian steel and softwood lumber industries, the following new initiatives were announced today.
Canada’s new government will:
Further limit foreign steel imports to ensure that Canadian steel
producers have better access to the domestic market Canada will
tighten the tariff rate quota levels for steel products from
non-free trade agreement (FTA) partners from 50% to 20% of 2024
levels. For non-CUSMA partners with which we have an FTA, Canada
will reduce tariff rate quota levels for steel products from 100%
to 75% of 2024 levels. Canada will impose a global 25% tariff on
targeted imported steel-derivative products such as wind towers, prefabricated buildings, fasteners, and wires. Canada will also
toughen our border measures to combat foreign steel dumping and
verify compliance with applicable surtaxes. To do so, we will equip
the Canada Border Services Agency with a dedicated steel compliance
team, enhanced detection of false declarations, and an expanded
online reporting tool. To move away from relying on imported steel
and to give Canadian companies time to adjust their supply chains
to use Canadian steel, the temporary remission of Canadian tariffs
on imports will end on January 31, 2026, for steel used in Canada
for manufacturing, food and beverage packaging, and agricultural production. These measures will boost the competitiveness of
Canadian steel producers by protecting them against trade
diversion. They will also unlock over $1 billion in new domestic
demand for Canadian steel. Make it easier to build with Canadian
steel and Canadian lumber To make it more affordable to transport
Canadian steel and lumber across the country, Canada will work with
railway companies to cut freight rates for transporting Canadian
steel and lumber interprovincially by 50%, beginning in Spring
2026. To maximise the use of Canadian softwood lumber in housing,
Build Canada Homes will prioritise shovel-ready, multi-year
projects that can begin within 12 months and that use Canadian wood products. With a funding allocation of roughly $700 million next
year, Build Canada Homes – our new federal homebuilding agency –
alone will create $70 to $140 million of new demand for Canadian
wood products – and attract private and provincial capital to
multiply its impact. Finally, Canada’s new government will
implement our Buy Canadian Policy later this year, which requires
that all contracts worth over $25 million prioritise Canadian
materials – including steel and lumber. This will also apply across federal grants and contributions programs. Increase protections for Canadian steel and lumber workers and businesses so they can adapt
and thrive in this new global landscape Canada will earmark more
than $100 million over two years, starting in 2025-2026, in program
costs to provide support to eligible employers in all sectors with
an active Work-Sharing agreement and who commit to supporting
training for employees working reduced hours. This measure will
increase the income replacement for eligible workers, helping up to
26,000 Canadian workers in various sectors, including steel and
lumber. To ensure companies have the financing and credit support
they need to maintain and restructure their operations during this
period of transformation, Canada will provide an additional $500
million to the Business Development Bank of Canada (BDC) Softwood
Lumber Guarantee Program. To support softwood lumber firms facing
liquidity pressures, Canada will earmark $500 million in funding
under the Large Enterprise Tariff Loan facility. To make it easier
for the forestry sector to access federal support, we will
establish a single window to applications – a one-stop shop to help companies navigate our suite of support programs. To examine and
report on how the forest industry can maintain its competitiveness
over the long-term, Canada will launch a Canadian Forest Sector Transformation Task Force. This Task Force will seek input and recommendations from provinces, territories, and industry on
managing the sector’s transformation. At this critical moment in Canada’s history, we are moving from reliance to resilience. Using Canadian steel and Canadian lumber, we will build Canada strong.
Trump has a
pickle up his butt about the supply management system
You misspelled trade protectionism again.
that Canada
uses to stabilize supplies and prices. It provides stability for
the farmers. There is provision for pretty steep tariffs on
imported dairy products but not until they exceed a certain
threshold.
So it _IS_ trade protectionism then.
No one
has ever paid any of those tariffs because they have imported
enough American dairy to even come close to having to pay.
Whilst dumping Canajun dairy into our markets?
Eh?
https://www.farmprogress.com/management/does-canada-really-charge-a-270-tariff-on-milk-
Does Canada really charge 270% on milk?
On some dairy imports, yes. Canada essentially allows two avenues
for dairy imports -- those within quota, and surplus stuff. It’s
the latter where tariffs spike, because Canada’s whole system is
built to avoid a surplus -- hence its name, “supply management.”
Take milk, for instance. Within quota, the tariff is 7.5%.
Over-quota milk faces a 241% tariff. Other over-quota rates include
blended dairy powder at 270%. Duties rise to as high as 314% for
other products, according to data from the World Trade
Organization. Canadian officials argue that all countries subsidize
dairy, including the U.S. -- Canada essentially does so indirectly
by closing its borders and capping production.
https://cheesereporter.com/news/2025/08/01/us-dairy-groups-criticize-nonfat-milk-solids-policies-of-canada-others-at-usitc-hearing/
Washington—The nonfat milk solids policies of Canada, the European
Union, India and Turkey were criticized by several dairy
organizations at a US International Trade Commission (USITC)
hearing here Monday.
“Out of the leading global suppliers to the world nonfat milk
solids markets, Canada’s distortionary policies are currently the
most impactful and harmful on those markets,” according to USDEC
and NMPF. “Canadian government policies that drive unsustainable surpluses are coupled with extensive industry subsidization and a
complex pricing structure that leads to artificially low-priced
products pushed out into the international market.
“The egregiously anticompetitive nature of the Canadian policies
harm American suppliers by undercutting US prices globally while simultaneously denying market access into Canada, both of which are
clear contraventions of its trade agreements and international
trade rules,” NMPF and USDEC added.
Meanwhile, the European Union (EU) has built a casein production
system that was substantially subsidized by European taxpayers
under the Common Agriculture Policy (CAP). US exporters are still
dealing with the resulting consequences of the EU’s anticompetitive policies that have propped up its domestic casein manufacturers,
USDEC and NMPF noted.
Meanwhile the US government subsidizes it's agriculture sector
allowing it to dump it's products in other countries.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/23/canada-tariffs-trump-00663710
Trump quietly holds off on Canada tariff increase
11/23/2025 04:00 PM EST
Sad lie, Canajun milk and steel tariffs long preceded any of Trump'sPresident Donald Trump has yet to follow through on his threat to
impose an additional 10 percent tariff on Canadian imports, four
weeks after he halted “all trade negotiations” over an anti-tariff
ad the province of Ontario ran during the Major League Baseball
World Series.
“Because of their serious misrepresentation of the facts, and
hostile act, I am increasing the Tariff on Canada by 10% over and
above what they are paying now,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on
Oct. 25, after announcing two days earlier that he was terminating
trade talks over the the ”egregious” ad.
Trump’s announcement had Canadian exporters preparing for a
worst-case scenario: a sweeping levy layered on top of existing double-digit duties, which would have been particularly painful for industries like autos, where components cross the border multiple
times before reaching their final form.
But to date, the Trump administration hasn’t sent any official documentation ordering U.S. Customs and Border Protection to enforce
the new, higher duty, and U.S. importers have not received any new regulatory guidance.
The White House did not say whether it still plans to impose the
tariff when asked for comment. But a separate U.S. official
suggested the Trump administration had opted to hold off on
additional duties — which would have sent tariffs on Canadian goods
to 45 percent — and instead continue to dangle the threat as the
two sides gear up for future talks.
“The Canadians know what’s on the table,” said the official,
granted anonymity to discuss private conversat
Nice try, but those tariffs are a response to Trump's tariff orgy. \
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA
at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me that if I
were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I would have to
pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect commercial
operations but apparently the paperwork is a nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't enter your
flat and empty head, now do they?
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:https://www.commenda.io/blog/canadian-tariffs-on-us-goods-before-trump/
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the
USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me that
if I were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I would
have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect
commercial operations but apparently the paperwork is a
nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't enter
your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American steel in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian steel and
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA
at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me that if I
were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I would have to
pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't affect commercial
operations but apparently the paperwork is a nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't enter your
flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American steel in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian steel and
aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance with our supply management system through which we maintain stability in the
agricultural system. It enures a constant supply of farm products and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH, heavily subsidizes farmers. Those subsidies leave them with surplus products that they would love to dump
on foreign markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but there has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar tariff. There is a
tariff rate quota system that provides for a quota of American dairy products that can be imported duty free. It is only when that quota has
been exceeded that tariffs would be applied. They have never come close
to reaching that quota.
Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but thereIsn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar tariff. There is
a tariff rate quota system that provides for a quota of American dairy
products that can be imported duty free. It is only when that quota
has been exceeded that tariffs would be applied. They have never come
close to reaching that quota.
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:Lose an argument, deploy red herrings. https://corporate.walmart.com/news/2008/03/23/wal-mart-offers-private-label-milk-produced-without-artificial-growth-hormone
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the
USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me
that if I were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I
would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't
affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork is a
nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't
enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American steel
in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian steel and aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance with our supply management system through which we maintain stability in the
agricultural system. It enures a constant supply of farm products
and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH, heavily subsidizes farmers.
Those subsidies leave them with surplus products that they would
love to dump on foreign markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but there
has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar tariff. There
is a tariff rate quota system that provides for a quota of American
dairy products that can be imported duty free. It is only when that
quota has been exceeded that tariffs would be applied. They have
never come close to reaching that quota.
Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
I worked near the border and
used to see the trucks carrying chickens. One day they might be
outbound loaded with chickens and coming back empty.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:14:17 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the
USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me
that if I were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I
would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't
affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork is a
nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't
enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American steel
in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian steel and
aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance with our supply
management system through which we maintain stability in the
agricultural system. It enures a constant supply of farm products
and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH, heavily subsidizes farmers.
Those subsidies leave them with surplus products that they would
love to dump on foreign markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but there
has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar tariff. There
is a tariff rate quota system that provides for a quota of American
dairy products that can be imported duty free. It is only when that
quota has been exceeded that tariffs would be applied. They have
never come close to reaching that quota.
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Yours.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:14:17 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the
USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me
that if I were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I
would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't
affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork is a
nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't
enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American steel
in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian steel
and aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance with our
supply management system through which we maintain stability in
the agricultural system. It enures a constant supply of farm
products and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH, heavily subsidizes
farmers. Those subsidies leave them with surplus products that
they would love to dump on foreign markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but
there has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar
tariff. There is a tariff rate quota system that provides for a
quota of American dairy products that can be imported duty free.
It is only when that quota has been exceeded that tariffs would
be applied. They have never come close to reaching that quota.
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring?
There is a significant percentage of American milkYeah ...so?
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial
hormones.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 18:15:07 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:14:17 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and >>>>>>>> President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the >>>>>>>> USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me
that if I were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I >>>>>>>> would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't
affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork is a >>>>>>>> nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't
enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American steel
in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian steel
and aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance with our
supply management system through which we maintain stability in
the agricultural system. It enures a constant supply of farm
products and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH, heavily subsidizes
farmers. Those subsidies leave them with surplus products that
they would love to dump on foreign markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but
there has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar
tariff. There is a tariff rate quota system that provides for a
quota of American dairy products that can be imported duty free.
It is only when that quota has been exceeded that tariffs would
be applied. They have never come close to reaching that quota.
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring?
Yours.
This was about tariffs and dumping after all.
There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial
hormones.
Yeah ...so?
Should it be tariffed out of the market?
You going to go after that BSE-laden Alberta beef next?
https://www.thedairysite.com/news/58/alberta-hotspot-for-mad-cow-disease-says-r-calf
ALBERTA - The Canadian Food Inspection Agency confirmed the detection
of the country's eighth case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE),
or mad cow disease in an Alberta beef cow. This is Canada's fifth mad
cow case this year and overall eighth since 2003.
https://inspection.canada.ca/en/animal-health/terrestrial-animals/diseases/reportable/canada/confirmed-cases-bse
On 2025-12-03 6:24 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 18:15:07 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:14:17 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I >>>>>>>> delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day
and President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver >>>>>>>> to the USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post
informed me that if I were to send a xmas present to someone >>>>>>>> in the USA, I would have to pay the duty up front! Of
course, that doesn't affect commercial operations but
apparently the paperwork is a nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't
enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American
steel in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian
steel and aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance
with our supply management system through which we maintain
stability in the agricultural system. It enures a constant
supply of farm products and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH,
heavily subsidizes farmers. Those subsidies leave them with
surplus products that they would love to dump on foreign
markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but
there has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar
tariff. There is a tariff rate quota system that provides for a
quota of American dairy products that can be imported duty free.
It is only when that quota has been exceeded that tariffs would
be applied. They have never come close to reaching that quota.
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring?
Yours.
This was about tariffs and dumping after all.
There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial
hormones.
Yeah ...so?
Should it be tariffed out of the market?
You going to go after that BSE-laden Alberta beef next?
https://www.thedairysite.com/news/58/alberta-hotspot-for-mad-cow-disease-says-r-calf
ALBERTA - The Canadian Food Inspection Agency confirmed the
detection of the country's eighth case of bovine spongiform
encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease in an Alberta beef cow.
This is Canada's fifth mad cow case this year and overall eighth
since 2003.
https://inspection.canada.ca/en/animal-health/terrestrial-animals/diseases/reportable/canada/confirmed-cases-bse
Wow. Twenty two years ago.... and they caught it.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 19:20:03 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:24 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 18:15:07 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:14:17 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I >>>>>>>>>> delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day >>>>>>>>>> and President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver >>>>>>>>>> to the USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post
informed me that if I were to send a xmas present to someone >>>>>>>>>> in the USA, I would have to pay the duty up front! Of
course, that doesn't affect commercial operations but
apparently the paperwork is a nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't
enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American
steel in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian
steel and aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance >>>>>>> with our supply management system through which we maintain
stability in the agricultural system. It enures a constant
supply of farm products and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH,
heavily subsidizes farmers. Those subsidies leave them with
surplus products that they would love to dump on foreign
markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but
there has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar
tariff. There is a tariff rate quota system that provides for a
quota of American dairy products that can be imported duty free. >>>>>>> It is only when that quota has been exceeded that tariffs would
be applied. They have never come close to reaching that quota.
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring?
Yours.
This was about tariffs and dumping after all.
There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial
hormones.
Yeah ...so?
Should it be tariffed out of the market?
You going to go after that BSE-laden Alberta beef next?
https://www.thedairysite.com/news/58/alberta-hotspot-for-mad-cow-disease-says-r-calf
ALBERTA - The Canadian Food Inspection Agency confirmed the
detection of the country's eighth case of bovine spongiform
encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease in an Alberta beef cow.
This is Canada's fifth mad cow case this year and overall eighth
since 2003.
https://inspection.canada.ca/en/animal-health/terrestrial-animals/diseases/reportable/canada/confirmed-cases-bse
Wow. Twenty two years ago.... and they caught it.
Tsk...
They have had cases since then, you lying asshat.
On 12/2/2025 4:12 PM, lomonosov wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 12:42:01 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
President Spray-tan
has made it too difficult to deliver to the USA at the moment.
Has he really?
At first blush you might think so:
"Wood and furniture products: There are new tariffs on certain wood and
furniture products. Softwood lumber: 10% duty
Upholstered wooden products: 25% duty
Kitchen cabinets and vanities: 25% duty, with plans to increase to 50%
in 2026"
I don't see wood bowls listed.
They're 'art' objects imoh.
AI Overview
"Shipping artwork from a Canadian small business to the USA involves
potential tariffs, as the previous duty-free de minimis exemption for
shipments under $800 USD has been eliminated. However, //original
artworks are generally duty-free, and Canadian-made items may be exempt
from new tariffs// if they meet the conditions of the United
States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). "
I think you just don't want to do the legwork on this, so much easier to
blame Trump than Carney the protectionist barker, isn't it?
You make it sound simple, but it is not. Yes, the blame goes to the guy that started the tariffs. Small businesses are getting hurt, as well as buyers. I can no longer buy from a favorite source.
On 2025-12-03, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
About 15%. It's pretty easy to find milk labeled "rBHT-free",
"rBST-free" or "from cows not treated with artificial hormones".
The cheapest milk at my grocery store is hormone-free.
Of course, with milk that's _in_ things, you can't tell.
On 2025-12-03 7:31 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 19:20:03 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:24 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 18:15:07 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:14:17 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. >>>>>>>>>> I delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other >>>>>>>>>> day and President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to >>>>>>>>>> deliver to the USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada >>>>>>>>>> Post informed me that if I were to send a xmas present to >>>>>>>>>> someone in the USA, I would have to pay the duty up front! >>>>>>>>>> Of course, that doesn't affect commercial operations but >>>>>>>>>> apparently the paperwork is a nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't >>>>>>>> enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American
steel in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in
Canadian steel and aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in >>>>>>> accordance with our supply management system through which we
maintain stability in the agricultural system. It enures a
constant supply of farm products and stabilized prices. The
US, OTOH, heavily subsidizes farmers. Those subsidies leave
them with surplus products that they would love to dump on
foreign markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but
there has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar
tariff. There is a tariff rate quota system that provides for
a quota of American dairy products that can be imported duty
free. It is only when that quota has been exceeded that
tariffs would be applied. They have never come close to
reaching that quota.
hormones?
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring?
Yours.
This was about tariffs and dumping after all.
There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial
hormones.
Yeah ...so?
Should it be tariffed out of the market?
You going to go after that BSE-laden Alberta beef next?
https://www.thedairysite.com/news/58/alberta-hotspot-for-mad-cow-disease-says-r-calf
ALBERTA - The Canadian Food Inspection Agency confirmed the
detection of the country's eighth case of bovine spongiform
encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease in an Alberta beef cow.
This is Canada's fifth mad cow case this year and overall eighth
since 2003.
https://inspection.canada.ca/en/animal-health/terrestrial-animals/diseases/reportable/canada/confirmed-cases-bse
Wow. Twenty two years ago.... and they caught it.
Tsk...
They have had cases since then, you lying asshat.
Three in Canada. That is half as many as in the US. ,,, lying asshat
On 2025-12-03 5:14 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but thereIsn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar tariff. There is
a tariff rate quota system that provides for a quota of American dairy
products that can be imported duty free. It is only when that quota
has been exceeded that tariffs would be applied. They have never come
close to reaching that quota.
That is what I have heard.
I know people who whine about hormones in chicken
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:14:17 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and
President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the
USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me
that if I were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I
would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't
affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork is a
nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't
enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American steel
in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian steel and
aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance with our supply >>>> management system through which we maintain stability in the
agricultural system. It enures a constant supply of farm products
and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH, heavily subsidizes farmers.
Those subsidies leave them with surplus products that they would
love to dump on foreign markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but there
has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar tariff. There
is a tariff rate quota system that provides for a quota of American
dairy products that can be imported duty free. It is only when that
quota has been exceeded that tariffs would be applied. They have
never come close to reaching that quota.
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring? There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial hormones.
On 2025-12-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring? There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial hormones.
What percentage? If you don't know, how can you say it's
"significant"?
On 2025-12-04 4:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring? There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial hormones.
What percentage? If you don't know, how can you say it's
"significant"?
Several sites placed it at 20% or more.
On 2025-12-04 4:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring? There is a significant percentage of American
milk that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial
hormones.
What percentage? If you don't know, how can you say it's
"significant"?
Several sites placed it at 20% or more.
Dave Smith wrote:Mmmm...spongy alberta beefwits!
On 2025-12-04 4:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring? There is a significant percentage of American
milk that has come from cows that had been treated with
artificial hormones.
What percentage? If you don't know, how can you say it's
"significant"?
Several sites placed it at 20% or more.
Canaduh saves its whore moans for the beef.
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 09:16:40 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
What percentage? If you don't know, how can you say it's
"significant"?
Several sites placed it at 20% or more.
Yet you can't seem to cite them, wotta surprise!
On 2025-12-04 10:39 a.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 09:16:40 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
What percentage? If you don't know, how can you say it's
"significant"?
Several sites placed it at 20% or more.
Yet you can't seem to cite them, wotta surprise!
If you weren't a moron you could easily Google it. Therein lies the
problem.
On 2025-12-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:14:17 -0700
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:08 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-03 12:47 p.m., lomonosov wrote:Isn't a lot of US milk tainted from the use of growth hormones?
On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 18:29:42 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks, Ed!! I'm really glad that you are using the scoop. I
delivered some tea caddies to the Tea Trader the other day and >>>>>>>> President Spray-tan has made it too difficult to deliver to the >>>>>>>> USA at the moment. Not only that but Canada Post informed me
that if I were to send a xmas present to someone in the USA, I >>>>>>>> would have to pay the duty up front! Of course, that doesn't
affect commercial operations but apparently the paperwork is a >>>>>>>> nightmare.
That's so sad. Those tariffs are ridiculous.
Jill
That's so sense of you, and him.
Those milk and steel tariffs Canajia imposes on America don't
enter your flat and empty head, now do they?
Try looking at the time line. Canada put tariffs on American steel
in response to the tariffs that Trump slapped in Canadian steel and
aluminum. The tariffs on dairy are in accordance with our supply >>>>> management system through which we maintain stability in the
agricultural system. It enures a constant supply of farm products
and stabilized prices. The US, OTOH, heavily subsidizes farmers.
Those subsidies leave them with surplus products that they would
love to dump on foreign markets.
Tariff keeps whining about 300% tariffs on American dairy but there
has never been any paid. It is not an across the boar tariff. There
is a tariff rate quota system that provides for a quota of American
dairy products that can be imported duty free. It is only when that
quota has been exceeded that tariffs would be applied. They have
never come close to reaching that quota.
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring? There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial hormones.
What percentage? If you don't know, how can you say it's
"significant"?
On 2025-12-04 4:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-03 6:06 p.m., lomonosov wrote:
Lose an argument, deploy red herrings.
What red herring? There is a significant percentage of American milk
that has come from cows that had been treated with artificial hormones.
What percentage? If you don't know, how can you say it's
"significant"?
Several sites placed it at 20% or more.
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