I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
Since they gave all the numbers, I asked Doctor AI whether this is a
healthy breakfast. It's a good thing you won't repeat it.
+ It's high in protein
- It's excessively high in calories
- It's dangerously high in sodium
- It's very high in saturated fat
- It's not balanced for heart health
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a
try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much
larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
On 12/6/2025 11:22 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it
a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the
potatoes and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were
much larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in
there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
Since they gave all the numbers, I asked Doctor AI whether this is a healthy breakfast. It's a good thing you won't repeat it.
+ It's high in protein
- It's excessively high in calories
- It's dangerously high in sodium
- It's very high in saturated fat
- It's not balanced for heart health
Seems accurate. I only ate about 2/3 of it, maybe that was a good
thing.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a
try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much
larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
2. Proper skillet meals don't need a parmesan cream sauce, it's to
astringent a taste for that dish.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 09:57:38 -0700, Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a
try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the
potatoes and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were
much larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in
there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
2. Proper skillet meals don't need a parmesan cream sauce, it's to >astringent a taste for that dish.
Are you calling everything astringent today?
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a
try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much
larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
On 12/6/2025 11:22 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
Since they gave all the numbers, I asked Doctor AI whether this is a
healthy breakfast. It's a good thing you won't repeat it.
+ It's high in protein
- It's excessively high in calories
- It's dangerously high in sodium
- It's very high in saturated fat
- It's not balanced for heart health
Seems accurate. I only ate about 2/3 of it, maybe that was a good thing.
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
Has Sleepy Don's trade war extended to this?
Sure, potatoes are empty carbs
I've looked at their menu several times, but it just never seemed
interesting enough to go there. It just looks sterile and corporate.
The place we go most frequently for breafast is this:
https://marksmidtown.com/state-street
Oddly enough, none of their three locations is "midtown". The
one we favor has the best hash browns of the three. The fact
that they're not all the same is comforting.
If we want to push out the boat and have a stellar breakfast,
it's always this:
https://www.zingermansroadhouse.com/menus/brunch/
Usually eggs benny for both of us. It's a non-traditional
interpretation, but good nevertheless.
I've had the bacon skillet and a bagel with smoked salmon that they
don't appear to have anymore. I'm pretty sure he's had the biscuits
and gravy.
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
They have eight (8) locations here with another one coming soon,You've not missed much. Went one time before and while OK, it was
but I've yet to eat there as it never crosses my mind.
~
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 04:04:12 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 09:57:38 -0700, Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>Acidic work for ya?
wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
2. Proper skillet meals don't need a parmesan cream sauce, it's to
astringent a taste for that dish.
Are you calling everything astringent today?
On 2025-12-06 9:04 a.m., Ed P wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurantWebsite not available in my region. Has Sleepy Don's
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
trade war extended to this?
On 12/6/2025 10:45 AM, Ed P wrote:
Seems accurate. I only ate about 2/3 of it, maybe that was a good thing.
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
Something I can't make anywhere as good was lunch today. In fact, I
suspect that nothing in CDMX will live up to the salsa at the place we
get lunch on Saturdays.
I got something far from mediocre today. Three of these. >https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/chocolate-passport-094062
My wife's mother gave her a box today (it's St. Nicholas Day)
On 12/6/2025 3:04 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
Sure, but that is not the point. I like Eggs Benedict. I'm not going
to take the time to make Hollandaise sauce though, for a serving or two.
Most times, breakfast is a simple meal and I vary the style of eggs
every day but sometimes, just nice to go out and order something a bit >different
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern >American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 14:04:22 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/6/2025 10:45 AM, Ed P wrote:
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
Seems accurate. I only ate about 2/3 of it, maybe that was a good thing. >>>
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
Something I can't make anywhere as good was lunch today. In fact, I
suspect that nothing in CDMX will live up to the salsa at the place we
get lunch on Saturdays.
I got something far from mediocre today. Three of these.
https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/chocolate-passport-094062
Premium chocolate doesn't contain soy lecithin.
My wife's mother gave her a box today (it's St. Nicholas Day)
Don't tell dsi1 that. He gets a strange rash when you mention St.
Nicholas Day.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 15:52:50 -0500, Ed P <posting.blocknews.net> wrote:
On 12/6/2025 3:04 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
Sure, but that is not the point. I like Eggs Benedict. I'm not going
to take the time to make Hollandaise sauce though, for a serving or two.
Most times, breakfast is a simple meal and I vary the style of eggs
every day but sometimes, just nice to go out and order something a bit >different
You're used to retirement, Bryan isn't yet. He has too much time on
his hands, so he cooks all day.
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new restaurant
in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much larger.
Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 15:52:50 -0500, Ed P <posting.blocknews.net> wrote:
On 12/6/2025 3:04 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
Sure, but that is not the point. I like Eggs Benedict. I'm not going
to take the time to make Hollandaise sauce though, for a serving or two.
Most times, breakfast is a simple meal and I vary the style of eggs
every day but sometimes, just nice to go out and order something a bit
different.
You're used to retirement, Bryan isn't yet. He has too much time on
his hands, so he cooks all day.
Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a
try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much
larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 15:52:50 -0500, Ed P <posting.blocknews.net> wrote:
On 12/6/2025 3:04 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
Sure, but that is not the point. I like Eggs Benedict. I'm not going
to take the time to make Hollandaise sauce though, for a serving or two.
Most times, breakfast is a simple meal and I vary the style of eggs
every day but sometimes, just nice to go out and order something a bit
different
You're used to retirement, Bryan isn't yet. He has too much time on
his hands, so he cooks all day.
On 12/6/2025 1:56 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
You are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to make cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried potatoes."
Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a
try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes
and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much
larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there. >>>>
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really bad. Either you
par fry or par cook some other way, before the final frying. Those fried potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out how to avoid their burnt
awfulness.
On 12/6/2025 1:56 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
You are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to make cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried potatoes."
Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really bad. Either you
par fry or par cook some other way, before the final frying. Those fried potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out how to avoid their burnt
awfulness.
On 12/6/2025 3:15 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 15:52:50 -0500, Ed P <posting.blocknews.net> wrote:
On 12/6/2025 3:04 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
Sure, but that is not the point. I like Eggs Benedict. I'm not going
to take the time to make Hollandaise sauce though, for a serving or two.
Freshly made hollandaise is a joy. You can bet that a lot of restaurants
use premade, shelf stable stuff. It's awfully easy with a stick blender,
and I can avoid stuff that might be made with vinegar. I vastly prefer >streaky bacon to back bacon--I won't insult our neighbors by calling
that stuff Canadian. Here's an interesting take. >https://www.tastingtable.com/1317283/anthony-bourdain-avoid-restaurant-hollandaise-sauce/>>
Most times, breakfast is a simple meal and I vary the style of eggs
every day but sometimes, just nice to go out and order something a bit
different.
I do that, just not for breakfast. Traditional breakfast foods are so >simple. If you ever go over to the east coast of FL, they have locations
of The Original Pancake House. That is *not* mediocre. It's regular >breakfast food, but the higher food and labor costs mean higher menu >prices.>
You're used to retirement, Bryan isn't yet. He has too much time onI enjoy cooking. Now I have time. Right now there's not much outside
his hands, so he cooks all day.
that's appealing. In all likelihood in 2 months we'll be away from this
cold for several weeks. I won't be doing so much cooking for a while. In >Mexico City, many of the hotels have communal charcoal grills, so I
*will* be doing that. Now that our cat is no more, we can kind of go >anywhere, any time.
After I send this, I'll be making my wife a melty cheese with sauteed >mushrooms. I'm still stuffed from lunch, so I think I'll just have a
couple of beers.
..................................................
And here it is.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2UbPuUVfiZeo43Jn6
All this thinking about hollandaise is inspiring me to seek out some
fresh baby spinach to make eggs scrambled with spinach, which is a
really good thing to put hollandaise onto. There's a thing they call
Eggs Florentine, which is a non-dead animal Benedict. Spinach instead of
the meat. If you want people to do less killing of animals for food,
offer vegetarian alternatives that are great, and that often means full
fat dairy and eggs.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:tato chunks.
You are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to make
cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried potatoes."
Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really bad. Either you
par fry or par cook some other way, before the final frying. Those fried
potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out how to avoid their burnt
awfulness.
My mother also did 'cottage fries' but yes, they were just called
fried potatoes. They were not burned at all and sometimes they
would have some nice crispy edges, but no charring.
~
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/6/2025 1:56 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
You are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to make
Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried potatoes."
Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really bad. Either you
par fry or par cook some other way, before the final frying. Those fried
potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out how to avoid their burnt
awfulness.
My mother also did 'cottage fries' but yes, they were just called
fried potatoes. They were not burned at all and sometimes they
would have some nice crispy edges, but no charring.
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern >American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's
or whatever that chain is called.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern >> >American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's
or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans >are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People >like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern >>> American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's
or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans
are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People
like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 07:08:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern
American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's
or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans
are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People
like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
"Most Americans have unhealthy eating habits, but don't tell them that because then they become afraid." Is that really what you're saying?
On 12/7/2025 2:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern
American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's
or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans
are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People
like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
Really? You're an American, David. You eat out a lot. Are you fat?
Are you unhealthy? Feeling anxious and afraid?
Jill
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/7/2025 2:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern
American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's
or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans
are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People
like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
Really? You're an American, David. You eat out a lot. Are you fat?
Are you unhealthy? Feeling anxious and afraid?
Jill
Indeed, I am an American. So what? Does that change the truth? Are you saying that
Americans aren't fat and unhealthy? What's your point? I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what? You don't like my opinions or analysis? Why not come up with some of your own - that don't involve me.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 07:08:38 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans
are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People
like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
"Most Americans have unhealthy eating habits, but don't tell them that
because then they become afraid." Is that really what you're saying?
You feed off people being anxious and afraid. It's a heck of a thing.
On 12/7/2025 4:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/7/2025 2:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern
American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's >>>>> or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans
are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People
like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
Really? You're an American, David. You eat out a lot. Are you fat?
Are you unhealthy? Feeling anxious and afraid?
Jill
Indeed, I am an American. So what? Does that change the truth? Are you saying that
Americans aren't fat and unhealthy? What's your point? I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what? You don't like my opinions or
analysis? Why not come up with some of your own - that don't involve me.
You totally missed my point. I was reacting to Bruce's constant
commentary about "Americans".
On 12/7/2025 4:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/7/2025 2:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern
American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's >>>> or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans
are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People
like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
Really? You're an American, David. You eat out a lot. Are you fat?
Are you unhealthy? Feeling anxious and afraid?
Jill
Indeed, I am an American. So what? Does that change the truth? Are you saying that
Americans aren't fat and unhealthy? What's your point? I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what? You don't like my opinions or
analysis? Why not come up with some of your own - that don't involve me.
You totally missed my point. I was reacting to Bruce's constant
commentary about "Americans".
Jill
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/7/2025 4:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
You totally missed my point. I was reacting to Bruce's constant
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/7/2025 2:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on their website.
I can't say that it's a smart move from a marketing standpoint. The modern
American should never know what the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy
when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or Zingy's
or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact that Americans
are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like they're interested in numbers
and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People
like you, who monger fear, aren't much help either.
Really? You're an American, David. You eat out a lot. Are you fat?
Are you unhealthy? Feeling anxious and afraid?
Jill
Indeed, I am an American. So what? Does that change the truth? Are you saying that
Americans aren't fat and unhealthy? What's your point? I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what? You don't like my opinions or
analysis? Why not come up with some of your own - that don't involve me. >>
commentary about "Americans".
Jill
Okay, now you're just confusing me - it's a brilliant strategy!
Bryan Simmons wrote on 12/6/2025 6:59 PM:
On 12/6/2025 1:56 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
You are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to
Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a >>>>> try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the potatoes >>>>> and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were much
larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in there. >>>>>
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
make cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried
potatoes." Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really
bad. Either you par fry or par cook some other way, before the final
frying. Those fried potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out
how to avoid their burnt awfulness.
Maybe Redneck Mama didn't have any high oleic sunflower oil?
She probably did her best, but it's pretty hard to please a Chef.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/6/2025 1:56 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
You are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to make
Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried potatoes."
Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really bad. Either you
par fry or par cook some other way, before the final frying. Those fried
potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out how to avoid their burnt
awfulness.
My mother also did 'cottage fries' but yes, they were just called
fried potatoes. They were not burned at all and sometimes they
would have some nice crispy edges, but no charring.
On 12/6/2025 7:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries inYou are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to make >> cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried potatoes."
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really bad. Either you
par fry or par cook some other way, before the final frying. Those fried >> potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out how to avoid their burnt >> awfulness.
My mother also did 'cottage fries' but yes, they were just called
fried potatoes. They were not burned at all and sometimes they
would have some nice crispy edges, but no charring.
They weren't charred, but way over-browned. It's impossible to get any semblance of even cooking throwing raw slices into a skillet. It was
shitty cooking, but it was the norm in the sixties.
The "crispy edges" were not "nice." The center parts were generally under-cooked. At least she never made tuna casserole.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/6/2025 7:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
They weren't charred, but way over-browned. It's impossible to get any
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries inYou are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to make >> >> cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried potatoes."
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really bad. Either you >> >> par fry or par cook some other way, before the final frying. Those fried >> >> potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out how to avoid their burnt >> >> awfulness.
My mother also did 'cottage fries' but yes, they were just called
fried potatoes. They were not burned at all and sometimes they
would have some nice crispy edges, but no charring.
semblance of even cooking throwing raw slices into a skillet. It was
shitty cooking, but it was the norm in the sixties.
Hmmmmmm, my mom's potatoes were thoroughly cooked even the centers of the slices and never over browned.
The "crispy edges" were not "nice." The center parts were generally
under-cooked. At least she never made tuna casserole.
Well, that's a shame you never got to eat well cooked fried potatoes including nice crispy edges as they are tasty, tasty; mm-mmm. But I
will say she never made tuna casserole, and I doubt she ever had a
chance to even eat it. That's one dish that never appeared on our
dinner table.
Bruce wrote on 12/6/2025 3:15 PM:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 15:52:50 -0500, Ed P <posting.blocknews.net> wrote:
On 12/6/2025 3:04 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
AI is often inaccurate. Sure, potatoes are empty carbs, and it has
almost 17 grams of what is likely shitty oil, but otherwise it seems
great. The arugula is a nice touch. I don't like arugula, but my wife
loves it. She likes First Watch. I'd never buy breakfast out unless I
was far from home. That was $14.49, and I can make better at home.
Sure, but that is not the point. I like Eggs Benedict. I'm not going >>> to take the time to make Hollandaise sauce though, for a serving or two. >>>
Most times, breakfast is a simple meal and I vary the style of eggs
every day but sometimes, just nice to go out and order something a bit
different
You're used to retirement, Bryan isn't yet. He has too much time on
his hands, so he cooks all day.
He will be OK once he gets down to old Mehico.
On 2025-12-08, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/6/2025 7:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
They weren't charred, but way over-browned. It's impossible to get any
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in >>>>>> the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sizedYou are correct. They are not cottage fries. My dear mother used to make >>>>> cottage fries. They were awful. She called them, "fried potatoes."
potato chunks.
Frying raw potatoes pretty much always turns out really bad. Either you >>>>> par fry or par cook some other way, before the final frying. Those fried >>>>> potatoes haunted my cooking until I figured out how to avoid their burnt >>>>> awfulness.
My mother also did 'cottage fries' but yes, they were just called
fried potatoes. They were not burned at all and sometimes they
would have some nice crispy edges, but no charring.
semblance of even cooking throwing raw slices into a skillet. It was
shitty cooking, but it was the norm in the sixties.
Hmmmmmm, my mom's potatoes were thoroughly cooked even the centers of the
slices and never over browned.
The "crispy edges" were not "nice." The center parts were generally
under-cooked. At least she never made tuna casserole.
Well, that's a shame you never got to eat well cooked fried potatoes
including nice crispy edges as they are tasty, tasty; mm-mmm. But I
will say she never made tuna casserole, and I doubt she ever had a
chance to even eat it. That's one dish that never appeared on our
dinner table.
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyed
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
The place we go most frequently for breafast is this:
https://marksmidtown.com/state-street
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyed
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
I don't like anything approaching scorched.
Prepared with care. https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/ https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/ https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
Scorched garbage.
https://biteontheside.com/crispy-fried-potato-slices/ https://www.bhg.com/recipe/vegetables/cottage-fried-potatoes/ https://www.billyparisi.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
Not par boiling or par frying is lazy, and ends up with inferior fried potatoes. Joan is lazy as fuck, and you seem to eat more salads and sandwiches than anything. You certainly don't fry much if ever.
These days it's not only laziness and incompetence. People burn starches intentionally. I describe that as "faux rustic." Look at this piece of
shit. https://www.saveur.com/article/recipes/pizza-margherita-tomato-basil-and-mozzarella-pizza/
Look at this garbage.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jDZECdsoYpeV1xMS9
From a James Beard nominee. Yep, it's not just laziness and
incompetence. Burning is intentional.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:The restaurant is called Balkan Treat Box, and they were a James Beard
Look at this garbage.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jDZECdsoYpeV1xMS9
From a James Beard nominee. Yep, it's not just laziness and
incompetence. Burning is intentional.
I would be embarrassed anyone taking a photo of that if I had prepared
it and then publish it online.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyedI don't like anything approaching scorched.
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
Prepared with care. https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/ https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/ https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Scorched garbage.
https://biteontheside.com/crispy-fried-potato-slices/ https://www.bhg.com/recipe/vegetables/cottage-fried-potatoes/ https://www.billyparisi.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
Every one of these three pictures is awful, simply awful.
Not par boiling or par frying is lazy, and ends up with inferior
fried potatoes. Joan is lazy as fuck, and you seem to eat more
salads and sandwiches than anything. You certainly don't fry much
if ever.
Some people have a knack for frying potatoes or other fried foods
without resorting to something that looks incinerated. It's called
managing the heat of their stove by utilizing those control knobs
that were installed at the factory.
These days it's not only laziness and incompetence. People burn
starches intentionally. I describe that as "faux rustic." Look at
this piece of shit. https://www.saveur.com/article/recipes/pizza-margherita-tomato-basil-and-mozzarella-pizza/
I'm not fond of blackened pizza edges either. I'm not pizza fan with
risen edges; thin crust for me, please.
Charcoal enlie muffin, <gag>!Look at this garbage.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jDZECdsoYpeV1xMS9
From a James Beard nominee. Yep, it's not just laziness and
incompetence. Burning is intentional.
I would be embarrassed anyone taking a photo of that if I had prepared
it and then publish it online.
~
On Mon, 08 Dec 2025 17:21:07 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyed caramelization or the Maillard reaction.I don't like anything approaching scorched.
Prepared with care. https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/ https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/ https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Scorched garbage.
https://biteontheside.com/crispy-fried-potato-slices/ https://www.bhg.com/recipe/vegetables/cottage-fried-potatoes/ https://www.billyparisi.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
Every one of these three pictures is awful, simply awful.
So wrongo.
Only the last is blackened, the first two are golden good.
Not par boiling or par frying is lazy, and ends up with inferior
fried potatoes. Joan is lazy as fuck, and you seem to eat more
salads and sandwiches than anything. You certainly don't fry much
if ever.
Some people have a knack for frying potatoes or other fried foods
without resorting to something that looks incinerated. It's called
managing the heat of their stove by utilizing those control knobs
that were installed at the factory.
This is the age of the air fryer:
https://www.airfryeryum.com/air-fryer-cottage-fries-recipe/
https://www.airfryeryum.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/80301985-09A3-4132-A431-2072BD574AB2-768x1024.jpeg
These days it's not only laziness and incompetence. People burn
starches intentionally. I describe that as "faux rustic." Look at
this piece of shit. https://www.saveur.com/article/recipes/pizza-margherita-tomato-basil-and-mozzarella-pizza/
I'm not fond of blackened pizza edges either. I'm not pizza fan with
risen edges; thin crust for me, please.
This to spec for that type, but the basil is over-wilted, should have
been dropped on it after coming out of the oven.
Maybe some Ninja pizza?
https://canoe.com/home-living/kitchen-dining/ninja-woodfire-review-makes-delicious-pizza
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/yoV6RG4ocM6Fx8NHgB9WS4-1024-80.jpg.webp
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
On 12/7/2025 2:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:10:37 GMT, dsi1
It was very nice that they posted the nutritional information on
their website. I can't say that it's a smart move from a
marketing standpoint. The modern American should never know what
the heck they're eating. It makes them all crazy when they do.
That's it. Maybe they're assuming that those numbers only mean
something to people who already avoid Flippies or Willies or
Zingy's or whatever that chain is called.
All the numbers and lists in the universe won't change the fact
that Americans are mostly fat, unhealthy fucks that only act like
they're interested in numbers and lists. All the data does is make Americans feel anxious and afraid. People like you, who monger
fear, aren't much help either.
Really? You're an American, David. You eat out a lot. Are you fat?
Are you unhealthy? Feeling anxious and afraid?
Jill
On Mon, 08 Dec 2025 17:21:07 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyedI don't like anything approaching scorched.
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
Prepared with care.
https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/
https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Scorched garbage.
https://biteontheside.com/crispy-fried-potato-slices/
https://www.bhg.com/recipe/vegetables/cottage-fried-potatoes/
https://www.billyparisi.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
Every one of these three pictures is awful, simply awful.
So wrongo.
Only the last is blackened, the first two are golden good.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyedI don't like anything approaching scorched.
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
Prepared with care.
https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/
https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Bryan Simmons wrote:So would his daddy: https://toytales.ca/7-things-you-didnt-know-about-captain-kangaroo/
Sure, potatoes are empty carbs
You would know -
https://postimg.cc/2L8VmHwH
Graham wrote:Neera Tanden ran his autopen, and Susan Rice our nation - good grief!
Has Sleepy Don's trade war extended to this?
Good question, was Sleepy Joe contagious or
do you lack originality that much?
Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it
a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the
potatoes and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These
were much larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in
there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
~
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 10:41:03 -0700, Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 04:04:12 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 09:57:38 -0700, Petro LomonosovAcidic work for ya?
<bubbles@in.valid> wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
2. Proper skillet meals don't need a parmesan cream sauce, it's to
astringent a taste for that dish.
Are you calling everything astringent today?
Toasted rye bread isn't astringent or acidic. Parmesan cream sauce
also isn't acidic or astringent.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 09:57:38 -0700, Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid>
wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it a
try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the
potatoes and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These were
much larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in
there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
2. Proper skillet meals don't need a parmesan cream sauce, it's to >astringent a taste for that dish.
Are you calling everything astringent today?
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2025 17:21:07 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyed caramelization or the Maillard reaction.I don't like anything approaching scorched.
Prepared with care. https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/ https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/ https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Scorched garbage.
https://biteontheside.com/crispy-fried-potato-slices/ https://www.bhg.com/recipe/vegetables/cottage-fried-potatoes/ https://www.billyparisi.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
Every one of these three pictures is awful, simply awful.
So wrongo.
Only the last is blackened, the first two are golden good.
A bit too much browning for me, especially the last one.That circulating fan heat makes for an even cook.
Not par boiling or par frying is lazy, and ends up with inferior
fried potatoes. Joan is lazy as fuck, and you seem to eat more
salads and sandwiches than anything. You certainly don't fry
much if ever.
Some people have a knack for frying potatoes or other fried foods
without resorting to something that looks incinerated. It's called managing the heat of their stove by utilizing those control knobs
that were installed at the factory.
This is the age of the air fryer:
https://www.airfryeryum.com/air-fryer-cottage-fries-recipe/
Those are rather nice, and not too dark.
True dat.https://www.airfryeryum.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/80301985-09A3-4132-A431-2072BD574AB2-768x1024.jpeg
Those, too!
Some folks have a hard time with their air fryers the first few times
they use them. Until they master it and realize it's faster than
their oven they tend to produce dishes that have turned to carbon.
Those are still sorta good, but Wal Mart has an even better brand: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bettergoods-Italian-Wood-Fired-Mushroom-and-Truffle-Pizza-15-73-oz-Frozen/5291648781?classType=REGULARThese days it's not only laziness and incompetence. People burn starches intentionally. I describe that as "faux rustic." Look
at this piece of shit. https://www.saveur.com/article/recipes/pizza-margherita-tomato-basil-and-mozzarella-pizza/
I'm not fond of blackened pizza edges either. I'm not pizza fan
with risen edges; thin crust for me, please.
This to spec for that type, but the basil is over-wilted, should
have been dropped on it after coming out of the oven.
Maybe some Ninja pizza?
https://canoe.com/home-living/kitchen-dining/ninja-woodfire-review-makes-delicious-pizza
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/yoV6RG4ocM6Fx8NHgB9WS4-1024-80.jpg.webp
It's a rather expensive appliance. I'll just continue to let Paul
Newman make my pizzas. 😊
~
So, the breads I've baked before this were simple SD breads and tasted just great. I made them mostly with tipo 0 and tipo 2 (roughly comparable to AP and bread flour I guess). The starter I'm using is at 100% hydration and is fed 50% tipo 2, 40% whole wheat and 10% rye.
The bread that's showing the issue has whole wheat in it as opposed to the other and that's where I think the problem is.
The flour I'm using is Italian flour (Molino Sobrino in the Langhe, nice place by the way) and I bought that last August. I'm finishing my last batch and the expiry date on the pack says February this year.
Could it be the flour has gone bad / the oil in it rancid and that this
is causing the bad taste and aftertaste?? The flour is stone ground.
On 2025-12-08, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyedI don't like anything approaching scorched.
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
Prepared with care.
https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/
https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Bryan is afraid of brown food.
On Mon, 08 Dec 2025 17:21:07 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyedI don't like anything approaching scorched.
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
Prepared with care.
https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/
https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Scorched garbage.
https://biteontheside.com/crispy-fried-potato-slices/
https://www.bhg.com/recipe/vegetables/cottage-fried-potatoes/
https://www.billyparisi.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
Every one of these three pictures is awful, simply awful.
So wrongo.
Only the last is blackened, the first two are golden good.
Not par boiling or par frying is lazy, and ends up with inferior
fried potatoes. Joan is lazy as fuck, and you seem to eat more
salads and sandwiches than anything. You certainly don't fry much
if ever.
Some people have a knack for frying potatoes or other fried foods
without resorting to something that looks incinerated. It's called
managing the heat of their stove by utilizing those control knobs
that were installed at the factory.
This is the age of the air fryer:
https://www.airfryeryum.com/air-fryer-cottage-fries-recipe/
https://www.airfryeryum.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/80301985-09A3-4132-A431-2072BD574AB2-768x1024.jpeg
These days it's not only laziness and incompetence. People burn
starches intentionally. I describe that as "faux rustic." Look at
this piece of shit.
https://www.saveur.com/article/recipes/pizza-margherita-tomato-basil-and-mozzarella-pizza/
I'm not fond of blackened pizza edges either. I'm not pizza fan with
risen edges; thin crust for me, please.
This to spec for that type, but the basil is over-wilted, should have
been dropped on it after coming out of the oven.
Maybe some Ninja pizza?
https://canoe.com/home-living/kitchen-dining/ninja-woodfire-review-makes-delicious-pizza
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/yoV6RG4ocM6Fx8NHgB9WS4-1024-80.jpg.webp
Look at this garbage.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jDZECdsoYpeV1xMS9
From a James Beard nominee. Yep, it's not just laziness and
incompetence. Burning is intentional.
I would be embarrassed anyone taking a photo of that if I had prepared
it and then publish it online.
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
https://canoe.com/home-living/kitchen-dining/ninja-woodfire-review-makes-delicious-pizza
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/yoV6RG4ocM6Fx8NHgB9WS4-1024-80.jpg.webp
It's a rather expensive appliance. I'll just continue to let Paul Newman make my pizzas. 😊
On 2025-12-08, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyedI don't like anything approaching scorched.
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
Prepared with care.
https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/
https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Bryan is afraid of brown food.
On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 19:56:55 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Petro Lomonosov <bubbles@in.valid> posted:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:04:53 -0500
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I saw an ad for this breakfast at First Watch, a fairly new
restaurant in our area. Sure sounded good so yesterday I gave it
a try.
It was OK, but I'd not repeat it. When I think of hash, the
potatoes and if onions, they are chopped fairly small. These
were much larger. Not much flavor from the Parmesan either.
You can get the eggs any style you want but they were buried in
there.
https://firstwatch.com/menu/double-bacon-parmesan-hash
1. Those are "cottage fries", not hash browns.
Those are not cottage fries, at least they're not cottage fries in
the USA from what I can see of the plate. Those are good sized
potato chunks.
~
The naming convention varies, even these french fry-looking ones:
https://pekinthechef.com/keifersrestaurant/cottage-fries
But...home fries it is:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Flickr_lifeontheedge_3672951574--Home_fried_potatoes.jpg/1280px-Flickr_lifeontheedge_3672951574--Home_fried_potatoes.jpg
Or is it?
https://www.foodrepublic.com/recipes/best-basic-home-fries-recipe/
On 12/8/2025 2:30 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-08, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:The links he posted were not pictures of anything he cooked.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyedI don't like anything approaching scorched.
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
Prepared with care.
https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/
https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Bryan is afraid of brown food.
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll remove
any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back. Then I'll use
the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then re-add the meat and slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey stock, so I'll be using the
2nd one for that.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll remove
any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back. Then I'll use
the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then re-add the meat and
slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey stock, so I'll be using the
2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook on
very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
~
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're a generation
that was told how special they were and they believed it. People catered to their
needs because there were so many of them. They inherited their parent's belief >that getting and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was >actually true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations.
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're a generation
that was told how special they were and they believed it. People catered to their
needs because there were so many of them. They inherited their parent's belief
that getting and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was actually true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations. Other than that,
the boomers are the greatest generations ever. Well, maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWVxWPISPc
On 12/8/2025 11:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're a generation
that was told how special they were and they believed it. People catered to their
needs because there were so many of them. They inherited their parent's belief
that getting and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was >> actually true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations.
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
"Woodfire" has no wood fire, just like you can't "fry" in a mini
convection oven.
https://www.foodrepublic.com/recipes/best-basic-home-fries-recipe/If your home was a cottage, thing could get confusing quick.
They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations.
American Republicans and their counterparts in other countries still
do that.
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness.
They're a
generation that was told how special they were and they believed it.
People catered to their needs because there were so many of them.
They inherited their parent's belief that getting and education was
the key to prosperity at a time when it was actually true.
They've
partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no tomorrow
without thought for the needs of future generations.
Other than that,
the boomers are the greatest generations ever. Well, maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWVxWPISPc
On 2025-12-08, Dr. Rocktor <drr@in.valid> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
In my case, Mario Savio, the Alan Bakke decision and the Curt Flood
Rule. We suck!
On 2025-12-08, Dr. Rocktor <drr@in.valid> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
In my case, Mario Savio, the Alan Bakke decision and the Curt Flood
Rule. We suck!
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're a generation
that was told how special they were and they believed it. People catered to their
needs because there were so many of them.
They inherited their parent's belief
that getting and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was actually true.
They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations.
Other than that,
the boomers are the greatest generations ever. Well, maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWVxWPISPc
On 12/8/2025 11:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're a generation
that was told how special they were and they believed it. People catered to their
needs because there were so many of them. They inherited their parent's belief
that getting and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was >> actually true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations. Other than that,
the boomers are the greatest generations ever. Well, maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWVxWPISPc
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
On 2025-12-09, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2025-12-08, Dr. Rocktor <drr@in.valid> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
In my case, Mario Savio, the Alan Bakke decision and the Curt Flood
Rule. We suck!
An activist who's been dead since 1996, a court case that ruled
racial quotas were impermissible, and something about baseball
hiring.
You're quite the deep thinker, Leo.
American Republicans and their counterparts in other countries still
do that.
On 2025-12-09, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2025-12-08, Dr. Rocktor <drr@in.valid> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
In my case, Mario Savio, the Alan Bakke decision and the Curt Flood
Rule. We suck!
An activist who's been dead since 1996, a court case that ruled
racial quotas were impermissible, and something about baseball
hiring.
You're quite the deep thinker, Leo.
Savio wasn't a Boomer (and _this_ Boomer had to look up who he was).
Bakke was not only white but too old for med school. His case
was decided in 1978 when the oldest Boomers were 32. Were there
any 32-year-old Supreme Court justices? I think you have the Greatest Generation or Silent Generation to blame for that.
The 10/5 rule was introduced in 1973. Were many Boomers running MLB
when the oldest of them were 27? Greatest and Silent Generations
again. Curt Flood wasn't a Boomer, either.
On 2025-12-09, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're
a generation that was told how special they were and they believed
it. People catered to their needs because there were so many of
them.
"People" being the Greatest Generation and Silent Generation. You
can blame them for how we turned out.
They inherited their parent's belief
that getting and education was the key to prosperity at a time when
it was actually true.
How is that the Boomer's fault?
They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations.
Other than that,
the boomers are the greatest generations ever. Well, maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWVxWPISPc
As with many of your generalizations, you fail to consider the
billions of people born between 1946 and 1964 who managed to
just scrape by.
The Baby Boom wasn't just in the U.S.
On 2025-12-09, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
On 12/8/2025 11:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're
a generation that was told how special they were and they believed
it. People catered to their needs because there were so many of
them. They inherited their parent's belief that getting and
education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was actually
true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like
there's no tomorrow without thought for the needs of future
generations. Other than that, the boomers are the greatest
generations ever. Well, maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWVxWPISPc
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
Sorry, Ed. Most of the things dsi1 is blaming on us were actually
started by you and your predecessors. Not that we took any effort
to fix things once we were in charge.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
American Republicans and their counterparts in other countries still
do that.
I saw some of the Hawaiian Republican Party while staging a 4th of
July parade. These were well-dressed white people in vintage
convertibles at the start of the street. Down at the end of the line
was the Hawaiian Democratic Party. It was a bunch of local kids in
the back of a truck that was not vintage - just old. It was funny and
sad at the same time.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8W9z33pjA1AZVBvx8
On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 04:35:44 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're a generation
that was told how special they were and they believed it. People catered to their
needs because there were so many of them. They inherited their parent's belief
that getting and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was >actually true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations.
So suddenly you're able to think a step further than the next thing
that fits in your pie hole.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 04:35:44 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're a generation
that was told how special they were and they believed it. People catered to their
needs because there were so many of them. They inherited their parent's belief
that getting and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was >> >actually true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like there's no
tomorrow without thought for the needs of future generations.
So suddenly you're able to think a step further than the next thing
that fits in your pie hole.
You're going to have to up your game - that is, if you consider giving your opinion
on other people's opinions to be any kind of game at all. It looks like you can't
think any further than what I post. Lame.
Here's what fits in my pie hole this morning. My daughter made it - including the
bread.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QE5EH7xTuYeV8DkZ9
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 04:35:44 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness. They're
a generation that was told how special they were and they believed
it. People catered to their needs because there were so many of
them. They inherited their parent's belief that getting and
education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was actually
true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth like
there's no tomorrow without thought for the needs of future
generations.
So suddenly you're able to think a step further than the next thing
that fits in your pie hole.
You're going to have to up your game - that is, if you consider
giving your opinion on other people's opinions to be any kind of game
at all. It looks like you can't think any further than what I post.
Lame.
Here's what fits in my pie hole this morning. My daughter made it -
including the bread.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QE5EH7xTuYeV8DkZ9
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 18:16:52 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 04:35:44 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness.
They're a generation that was told how special they were and they
believed it. People catered to their needs because there were so
many of them. They inherited their parent's belief that getting
and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was
actually true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth
like there's no tomorrow without thought for the needs of future
generations.
So suddenly you're able to think a step further than the next thing
that fits in your pie hole.
You're going to have to up your game - that is, if you consider
giving your opinion on other people's opinions to be any kind of
game at all. It looks like you can't think any further than what I
post. Lame.
As long as you understand what you're trying to say. That's what
matters.
Here's what fits in my pie hole this morning. My daughter made it - >including the bread.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QE5EH7xTuYeV8DkZ9
That looks good.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll remove
any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back. Then I'll use
the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then re-add the meat and
slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey stock, so I'll be using the
2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook on
very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
~
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> posted:
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
Okay, by the power vested in me, you're absolved. I can't say why people turn out
the way they do. My wife's mom died in a car crash when she was 5. She was raised
by a woman from Korea that was not suited for raising 7 American kids that were a
little wild. She had a horrible upbringing. I blame her dad for allowing that to
happen to the kids. Somehow she came out of the mess a brave, caring person. Her
sister tried to get my wife and her two brothers into the care of her aunt who
also had 7 kids. You would think that would have been better - I met the aunt who
seemed to be a pretty nice lady. As it turned out, several of her kids drank >themselves to death and a couple of them put a bullet in their heads. The world
is a very strange place.
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> posted:
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
Okay, by the power vested in me, you're absolved. I can't say why people turn out
the way they do. My wife's mom died in a car crash when she was 5. She was raised
by a woman from Korea that was not suited for raising 7 American kids that were a
little wild. She had a horrible upbringing. I blame her dad for allowing that to
happen to the kids. Somehow she came out of the mess a brave, caring person. Her
sister tried to get my wife and her two brothers into the care of her aunt who
also had 7 kids. You would think that would have been better - I met the aunt who
seemed to be a pretty nice lady. As it turned out, several of her kids drank themselves to death and a couple of them put a bullet in their heads. The world
is a very strange place.
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> posted:
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
Okay, by the power vested in me, you're absolved. I can't say why people turn out
the way they do. My wife's mom died in a car crash when she was 5. She was raised
by a woman from Korea that was not suited for raising 7 American kids that were a
little wild. She had a horrible upbringing. I blame her dad for allowing that to
happen to the kids. Somehow she came out of the mess a brave, caring person. Her
sister tried to get my wife and her two brothers into the care of her aunt who
also had 7 kids. You would think that would have been better - I met the aunt who
seemed to be a pretty nice lady. As it turned out, several of her kids drank themselves to death and a couple of them put a bullet in their heads. The world
is a very strange place.
On 12/8/2025 7:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll
remove any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back.
Then I'll use the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then
re-add the meat and slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey
stock, so I'll be using the 2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook
on very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
~
Yeah, seems like he's cooking that chuck roast bass ackwards. Season
and sear the roast first, then cook it low and slow.
Jill
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 23:10:08 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> posted:
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
Okay, by the power vested in me, you're absolved. I can't say why people turn out
the way they do. My wife's mom died in a car crash when she was 5. She was raised
by a woman from Korea that was not suited for raising 7 American kids that were a
little wild. She had a horrible upbringing. I blame her dad for allowing that to
happen to the kids. Somehow she came out of the mess a brave, caring person. Her
sister tried to get my wife and her two brothers into the care of her aunt who
also had 7 kids. You would think that would have been better - I met the aunt who
seemed to be a pretty nice lady. As it turned out, several of her kids drank >themselves to death and a couple of them put a bullet in their heads. The world
is a very strange place.
Anecdotality aside, that suggests it's better to be raised by a bad
parent.
On 2025-12-10 6:10 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> posted:
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
Okay, by the power vested in me, you're absolved. I can't say why people turn out
the way they do. My wife's mom died in a car crash when she was 5. She was raised
by a woman from Korea that was not suited for raising 7 American kids that were a
little wild. She had a horrible upbringing. I blame her dad for allowing that to
happen to the kids. Somehow she came out of the mess a brave, caring person. Her
sister tried to get my wife and her two brothers into the care of her aunt who
also had 7 kids. You would think that would have been better - I met the aunt who
seemed to be a pretty nice lady. As it turned out, several of her kids drank
themselves to death and a couple of them put a bullet in their heads. The world
is a very strange place.
It's amazing how well some people grow up with adversity while others
fall apart under fairly normal circumstances. I have so friends who had
a pretty hard life. The are biracial, having a white mother and a black father and back in the 50s that could be rough. Their mother died when
they were young and her death depressed their father to the point that
he committed suicide.
The kids were farmed out to different family and friends. One of the sisters is schizophrenic and has Lupus. Another sister had mental
health issues and ended up disappearing and was found dead in the canal.
We never knew if it was an accident or suicide. Our friend's brother is
a really nice guy. His wife once talked about their upbringing and said
it is such a sad story that she cries when she tells people about it.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll remove
any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back. Then I'll use
the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then re-add the meat and
slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey stock, so I'll be using the
2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook on
very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 17:08:14 -0500
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 12/8/2025 7:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll
remove any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back.
Then I'll use the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then
re-add the meat and slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey
stock, so I'll be using the 2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook
on very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
~
Yeah, seems like he's cooking that chuck roast bass ackwards. Season
and sear the roast first, then cook it low and slow.
Jill
Agreed.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 23:10:08 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> posted:
I'm part of the Silent Generation. We didn't do any of that stuff.
Okay, by the power vested in me, you're absolved. I can't say why people turn out
the way they do. My wife's mom died in a car crash when she was 5. She was raised
by a woman from Korea that was not suited for raising 7 American kids that were a
little wild. She had a horrible upbringing. I blame her dad for allowing that to
happen to the kids. Somehow she came out of the mess a brave, caring person. Her
sister tried to get my wife and her two brothers into the care of her aunt who
also had 7 kids. You would think that would have been better - I met the aunt who
seemed to be a pretty nice lady. As it turned out, several of her kids drank
themselves to death and a couple of them put a bullet in their heads. The world
is a very strange place.
Anecdotality aside, that suggests it's better to be raised by a bad
parent.
I donno. I can't say a thing about it. It's a mystery.
On 12/11/2025 11:03 AM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 17:08:14 -0500I miswrote. I did sear it first. I'm good with reverse searing, but when you're cooking at 125F, it's best to sear first.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 12/8/2025 7:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll
remove any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back.
Then I'll use the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then
re-add the meat and slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey
stock, so I'll be using the 2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook
on very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
~
Yeah, seems like he's cooking that chuck roast bass ackwards. Season
and sear the roast first, then cook it low and slow.
Jill
Agreed.
Bryan Simmons wrote on 12/11/2025 5:03 PM:
On 12/11/2025 11:03 AM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 17:08:14 -0500I miswrote. I did sear it first. I'm good with reverse searing, but
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 12/8/2025 7:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll
remove any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back.
Then I'll use the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then >>>>>> re-add the meat and slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey
stock, so I'll be using the 2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook
on very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
~
Yeah, seems like he's cooking that chuck roast bass ackwards. Season >>>> and sear the roast first, then cook it low and slow.
Jill
Agreed.
when you're cooking at 125F, it's best to sear first.
If you're cooking meat at ultra low temperature, you could try simply putting it under your armpits. Pretty close to your goal of 125
degrees, but might take a few minutes longer, but it may not provide
enough heat. Just a thought Chef.
Another method you could explore is using a heating pad. Put the food on
the pad, then sit on it. It should work. Your ass won't be much below
the target temp, and it will hold the heat in. Put some plastic wrap
over the meat before you sit on it, and nobody will detect how you
cooked it. They will be amazed at your delicacy, even if it's round roast.
On 12/8/2025 2:30 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-08, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.netThe links he posted were not pictures of anything he cooked.
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 12/8/2025 4:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Aw, you know Bryan doesn't like anything that has enjoyedI don't like anything approaching scorched.
caramelization or the Maillard reaction.
Prepared with care.
https://www.africanbites.com/southern-style-fried-potatoes/
https://dinnerthendessert.com/pan-fried-potatoes/
https://gastrofun.net/recipe/triple-cooked-pommes-frites/
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Bryan is afraid of brown food.
Jill--
On 12/11/2025 5:53 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
Bryan Simmons wrote on 12/11/2025 5:03 PM:I have two nice multicookers that are adjustable in 5 degree increments. This evening I cut it up a bit of the roast and seasoned it with adobo before frying it in a mix of HOSO and beef fat. The refried beans were
On 12/11/2025 11:03 AM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 17:08:14 -0500I miswrote. I did sear it first. I'm good with reverse searing, but
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 12/8/2025 7:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll >>>>>>> remove any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back.
Then I'll use the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then >>>>>>> re-add the meat and slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey
stock, so I'll be using the 2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook >>>>>> on very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
~
Yeah, seems like he's cooking that chuck roast bass ackwards. Season >>>>> and sear the roast first, then cook it low and slow.
Jill
Agreed.
when you're cooking at 125F, it's best to sear first.
If you're cooking meat at ultra low temperature, you could try simply
putting it under your armpits. Pretty close to your goal of 125
degrees, but might take a few minutes longer, but it may not provide
enough heat. Just a thought Chef.
Another method you could explore is using a heating pad. Put the food
on the pad, then sit on it. It should work. Your ass won't be much
below the target temp, and it will hold the heat in. Put some
plastic wrap over the meat before you sit on it, and nobody will
detect how you cooked it. They will be amazed at your delicacy, even
if it's round roast.
made from dry. The old seaman would not approve. Look at how beautifully medium rare than roast turned out. Maybe you could learn something. https://photos.app.goo.gl/gv2sPGY864PQ1BcM9
On 12/8/2025 4:45 PM, jmquown wrote:
On 12/8/2025 2:30 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-08, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.netThe links he posted were not pictures of anything he cooked.
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Bryan is afraid of brown food.
They were examples you stupid cunt. It's good you never reproduced. You >might have lowered the average intelligence.>
On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 17:13:37 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
"Woodfire" has no wood fire, just like you can't "fry" in a mini
convection oven.
Dude, they use pellet woods.
Bryan Simmons wrote on 12/11/2025 6:16 PM:
On 12/11/2025 5:53 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
Bryan Simmons wrote on 12/11/2025 5:03 PM:I have two nice multicookers that are adjustable in 5 degree
On 12/11/2025 11:03 AM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 17:08:14 -0500I miswrote. I did sear it first. I'm good with reverse searing, but
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 12/8/2025 7:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
This evening I bought a chuck roast to cook ultra slow. Then I'll >>>>>>>> remove any liquid, sear it, remove it and add any liquid back. >>>>>>>> Then I'll use the pressure function for carrots and potatoes, then >>>>>>>> re-add the meat and slow cook a bit. The one still has turkey
stock, so I'll be using the 2nd one for that.
I don't know that it really matters, but I sear /first/ then cook >>>>>>> on very low. But I also don't add carrots or potatoes.
~
Yeah, seems like he's cooking that chuck roast bass ackwards.Â
Season
and sear the roast first, then cook it low and slow.
Jill
Agreed.
when you're cooking at 125F, it's best to sear first.
If you're cooking meat at ultra low temperature, you could try simply
putting it under your armpits. Pretty close to your goal of 125
degrees, but might take a few minutes longer, but it may not provide
enough heat. Just a thought Chef.
Another method you could explore is using a heating pad. Put the food
on the pad, then sit on it. It should work. Your ass won't be much
below the target temp, and it will hold the heat in. Put some
plastic wrap over the meat before you sit on it, and nobody will
detect how you cooked it. They will be amazed at your delicacy, even
if it's round roast.
increments. This evening I cut it up a bit of the roast and seasoned
it with adobo before frying it in a mix of HOSO and beef fat. The
refried beans were made from dry. The old seaman would not approve.
Look at how beautifully medium rare than roast turned out. Maybe you
could learn something.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/gv2sPGY864PQ1BcM9
Looks real good to me Chef. I couldn't do it though, because I don't
have any fancy cookers with 5 degree resolution. Everything I have is
pretty basic.
On 12/11/2025 6:52 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
Looks real good to me Chef. I couldn't do it though, because I don'tI got the second one on eBay several weeks ago. We used to have two,
have any fancy cookers with 5 degree resolution. Everything I have is
pretty basic.
but gave one to our son. A brand new, open box one with shipping for
under $110. I jumped on that. Perhaps you can't afford that, but it's a >really handy device. I could not have gotten those results with a chuck >roast without it.
I used the beef for tacos. It's OK if you envy my dinner because I don't >ascribe to one of those "shalt not covet" religions. >https://photos.app.goo.gl/3zvWffZNjiZhfmR99
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 18:40:06 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/8/2025 4:45 PM, jmquown wrote:
On 12/8/2025 2:30 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:They were examples you stupid cunt. It's good you never reproduced. You
On 2025-12-08, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.netThe links he posted were not pictures of anything he cooked.
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
All three of the above dishes have nice crispy, not scorched,
edges, nicely browned.
Bryan is afraid of brown food.
might have lowered the average intelligence.
Psychiatric again.
On 2025-12-09, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In my case, Mario Savio, the Alan Bakke decision and the Curt Flood
Rule. We suck!
An activist who's been dead since 1996, a court case that ruled
racial quotas were impermissible, and something about baseball
hiring.
On 12/11/2025 6:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
Jill is a stupid cunt. I post a lot of pix of my own cooking. That does
Psychiatric again.
not mean that any pix that I post must include what I prepared. I never >represented the links as being something that I cooked. Jill is just a >stupid cunt. Maybe you resemble the remark, and you are also a genetic
dead end--less sissies in the gene pool.
Almost no one will care when Jill dies. She has siblings who don't like
her. Last we heard, she has an amicable relationship with her boss and
his wife, but that's coming to an end if it hasn't already. If she dies
in her condo, no one will notice or care until her body putrefies. I
might pity her if she didn't start shit with me.
I think she's got me killfiled. Dave Smith and the Michigan Behemoth
have had me KF'd for a while, but now her whale ass and his time bomb
heart have used the super KF, like the nuclear option. That means that
the gloves are off completely. I love when I can be maximally cruel
without feeling the least bit bad about it.
I bet you think that's "Psychiatric," but the opinion of a sissy doesn't >count for much.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 20:06:42 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/11/2025 6:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
Jill is a stupid cunt.
Psychiatric again.
I bet you think that's "Psychiatric," but the opinion of a sissy doesn't >count for much.
She's annoying but you talk like an 8 year old without the slightest
bit of self control. If you show 25% of this behaviour in real life,
you should be on medication.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 20:06:42 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/11/2025 6:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
Jill is a stupid cunt.
Psychiatric again.
I bet you think that's "Psychiatric," but the opinion of a sissy doesn't >> >count for much.
She's annoying but you talk like an 8 year old without the slightest
bit of self control. If you show 25% of this behaviour in real life,
you should be on medication.
And he got the attributes wrong.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 19:38:32 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/11/2025 6:52 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
Looks real good to me Chef. I couldn't do it though, because I don'tI got the second one on eBay several weeks ago. We used to have two,
have any fancy cookers with 5 degree resolution. Everything I have is
pretty basic.
but gave one to our son. A brand new, open box one with shipping for
under $110. I jumped on that. Perhaps you can't afford that, but it's a
really handy device. I could not have gotten those results with a chuck
roast without it.
I used the beef for tacos. It's OK if you envy my dinner because I don't
ascribe to one of those "shalt not covet" religions.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3zvWffZNjiZhfmR99
There's nothing wrong with that, but why would people envy it?
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 20:06:42 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/11/2025 6:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
Jill is a stupid cunt.
Psychiatric again.
I bet you think that's "Psychiatric," but the opinion of a sissy doesn't >>> count for much.
She's annoying but you talk like an 8 year old without the slightest
bit of self control. If you show 25% of this behaviour in real life,
you should be on medication.
And he got the attributes wrong.The attributions are done automatically by Thunderbird, and they are
My name is John
John Doe wrote:
My name is John.Well, duh.
--Jane*****
On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 17:23:05 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.foodrepublic.com/recipes/best-basic-home-fries-recipe/If your home was a cottage, thing could get confusing quick.
Keebler time.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:28:05 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 18:16:52 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 04:35:44 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:06:47 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I also don't care for the
boomer generation. I'm also a boomer - so what?
So what is it about boomers that turned you off?
It would be their greed, arrogance, and self-centeredness.
They're a generation that was told how special they were and they
believed it. People catered to their needs because there were so
many of them. They inherited their parent's belief that getting
and education was the key to prosperity at a time when it was
actually true. They've partied and exploited/depleted the earth
like there's no tomorrow without thought for the needs of future
generations.
So suddenly you're able to think a step further than the next thing
that fits in your pie hole.
You're going to have to up your game - that is, if you consider
giving your opinion on other people's opinions to be any kind of
game at all. It looks like you can't think any further than what I
post. Lame.
As long as you understand what you're trying to say. That's what
matters.
Here's what fits in my pie hole this morning. My daughter made it -
including the bread.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QE5EH7xTuYeV8DkZ9
That looks good.
Hey now Vegan guy, those are DEAD EMBRYOS!
Chicken-fantacide.
On 12/12/2025 12:49 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 20:06:42 -0600, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/11/2025 6:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
Jill is a stupid cunt.
Psychiatric again.
I bet you think that's "Psychiatric," but the opinion of a sissy doesn't >>> count for much.
She's annoying but you talk like an 8 year old without the slightest
bit of self control. If you show 25% of this behaviour in real life,
you should be on medication.
I just call balls and strikes. >
And he got the attributes wrong.The attributions are done automatically by Thunderbird, and they are correct. You're as dumb as Jill, and a worse cook. The way it works is,
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