• The best grocery stores, according to customers

    From Graham@g.stereo@shaw.ca to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 12:01:45 2025
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    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it, I'll do
    a copy and paste, but it is long. https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best-grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713
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  • From Graham@g.stereo@shaw.ca to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 12:03:57 2025
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    On 2025-12-08 12:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it, I'll do
    a copy and paste, but it is long. https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best- grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713

    Sorry, you can read it here:
    https://www.checkbook.org/washingtonpost/groceries
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  • From heyjoe@nobody@home.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 19:31:00 2025
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    Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it, I'll do
    a copy and paste, but it is long. https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best-grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713

    Yah, but. . . .
    That’s for Washington, DC. More than one of those stores is not within 50 miles of me. Would love to shop at Wegman’s, but have never been close to one.

    Looking at local grocer’s, the quality of produce varies from one Kroger to another. Even though it comes from the same source, quality is a
    reflection of the produce manager, staff and how they handle and rework/merchandise their produce. There’s one local Kroger I never buy produce from.
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 20:06:27 2025
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    heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid> posted:

    Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it, I'll do
    a copy and paste, but it is long. https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best-grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713

    Yah, but. . . .
    That’s for Washington, DC. More than one of those stores is not within 50 miles of me. Would love to shop at Wegman’s, but have never been close to one.

    Looking at local grocer’s, the quality of produce varies from one Kroger to another. Even though it comes from the same source, quality is a
    reflection of the produce manager, staff and how they handle and rework/merchandise their produce. There’s one local Kroger I never buy produce from.


    A good many of them are not in my area either and some are but the driving distance there and back kills any savings. Those that require a membership kills any bargains I might find as well.

    There is a Kroger one mile from my house, but in the past, there was many complaints about the produce. The one I shop at is another 3 miles down
    the road and has a much better fresh vegetables and fruits department and
    to me, just a better overall selection.

    An Aldi is also one mile from my house, and I will stop in there occasionally but their prices are creeping up and at times are no cheaper than Kroger.
    Also, if I need a special cut of meat, there is no butcher at Aldi.

    ~
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 13:33:49 2025
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    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 12:03:57 -0700
    Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-12-08 12:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it,
    I'll do a copy and paste, but it is long. https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best- grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713

    Sorry, you can read it here: https://www.checkbook.org/washingtonpost/groceries

    Why?

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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 15:47:53 2025
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    On 12/8/2025 3:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid> posted:

    Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it, I'll do >>> a copy and paste, but it is long.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best-grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713

    Yah, but. . . .
    That’s for Washington, DC. More than one of those stores is not within 50 >> miles of me. Would love to shop at Wegman’s, but have never been close to >> one.

    Looking at local grocer’s, the quality of produce varies from one Kroger to
    another. Even though it comes from the same source, quality is a
    reflection of the produce manager, staff and how they handle and
    rework/merchandise their produce. There’s one local Kroger I never buy
    produce from.


    A good many of them are not in my area either and some are but the driving distance there and back kills any savings. Those that require a membership kills any bargains I might find as well.

    There is a Kroger one mile from my house, but in the past, there was many complaints about the produce. The one I shop at is another 3 miles down
    the road and has a much better fresh vegetables and fruits department and
    to me, just a better overall selection.

    An Aldi is also one mile from my house, and I will stop in there occasionally but their prices are creeping up and at times are no cheaper than Kroger. Also, if I need a special cut of meat, there is no butcher at Aldi.

    ~

    When I lived in CT we used to occasionally go to Wegman's, about 30
    miles as opposed to 2 miles for Stop & Shop. They had some nice stuff
    so once it a while worth the trip/

    Here, I go to Publix. Not the cheapest, but my preference. Quality,
    good service, great people. I watch the BOGO sales and take advantage
    of them to save. About $40 this week on items I'll use over the next
    couple of months.

    Tried ALDI in two locations over the years. Never cared for them. No
    reason to ever go back though some prices are lower.

    I also go to BJs every few months. They have a few items at a good
    price, such as Kerrygold butter and cheese, wine, etc.
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  • From jmquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 17:33:20 2025
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    On 12/8/2025 2:01 PM, Graham wrote:
    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it, I'll do
    a copy and paste, but it is long. https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best- grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713

    Thanks, but I'm not paying to read what some Washington Post poll
    readers thinks are the best grocery stores.

    Jill
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  • From jmquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 17:35:12 2025
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    On 12/8/2025 2:03 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2025-12-08 12:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it, I'll
    do a copy and paste, but it is long.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best-
    grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713

    Sorry, you can read it here: https://www.checkbook.org/washingtonpost/groceries

    The second link, while accessible, was not very informative. I don't
    live in the Washngton, DC area.

    Jill


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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 17:45:47 2025
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    On 2025-12-08 3:47 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 12/8/2025 3:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:


    When I lived in CT we used to occasionally go to Wegman's, about 30
    miles as opposed to 2 miles for Stop & Shop.  They had some nice stuff
    so once it a while worth the trip/

    Here, I go to Publix.  Not the cheapest, but my preference. Quality,
    good service, great people.  I watch the BOGO sales and take advantage
    of them to save.  About $40 this week on items I'll use over the next couple of months.

    Tried ALDI in two locations over the years.  Never cared for them.  No reason to ever go back though some prices are lower
    a
    I also go to BJs every few months.  They have a few items at a good
    price, such as Kerrygold butter and cheese, wine, etc.


    Thank goodness we are retired and have time to go shopping at different
    stores and get the best deals that each of them offer. We have a Food
    Basics in town that had low prices, carries a lot of the stuff he need
    and good produce but I don't buy meat there. There is an Italian butcher
    in the next town that has great prices in basic meats and they have good produce, and lots of pasta and tomato sauces. Another Italian family
    owned grocery has the basics and I love that they sell small chickens
    and small chicken breasts. I don't like their beef and pork because they
    slice it too thin. I am not interested in 1/2" thick steaks and chops.
    I get most of the groceries each week but my wife stops at the Sobey's
    in town because they have a good fish counter.

    We are both pretty busy all week so we can check out out various A list
    stores when we are in the are Then there are my monthly Costco runs
    where I pick up some of their good deals, I usually start off with 4
    cases of Oasis juices for the food bank at my wife's church. Then I ger
    a case or two of Perrier, a two pack of blue cheese, maybe some goat
    cheese, then some lamb chops and/or racks, maybe a box of ready to bake croissants.
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 17:54:41 2025
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    On 12/8/2025 2:47 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 12/8/2025 3:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid> posted:

    Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    A WaPo article for our American posters. If you can't access it,
    I'll do
    a copy and paste, but it is long.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2025/11/18/washington-dc-best-
    grocery-stores/?commentID=5edf77d3-582b-4924-b5e3-0e44528a5713

    Yah, but. . . .
    That’s for Washington, DC.  More than one of those stores is not
    within 50
    miles of me.  Would love to shop at Wegman’s, but have never been
    close to
    one.

    Looking at local grocer’s, the quality of produce varies from one
    Kroger to
    another.  Even though it comes from the same source, quality is a
    reflection of the produce manager, staff and how they handle and
    rework/merchandise their produce.  There’s one local Kroger I never buy >>> produce from.


    A good many of them are not in my area either and some are but the
    driving
    distance there and back kills any savings.  Those that require a
    membership
    kills any bargains I might find as well.

    There is a Kroger one mile from my house, but in the past, there was many
    complaints about the produce.  The one I shop at is another 3 miles down
    the road and has a much better fresh vegetables and fruits department and
    to me, just a better overall selection.

    An Aldi is also one mile from my house, and I will stop in there
    occasionally
    but their prices are creeping up and at times are no cheaper than Kroger.
    Also, if I need a special cut of meat, there is no butcher at Aldi.

    ALDI's prices are consistently lower than everyone else's. They're
    cheaper on milk and eggs, and some of their private labels are
    excellent, like anything branded Specially Selected. The Specially
    Selected ice cream is the closest thing to Haagen-Dazs. No one else
    sells a 12-pack of good tasting beer for $13.99. https://www.johnlikesbeer.com/2024/08/83124-state-of-brewings-shuteye-peak.html>

    When I lived in CT we used to occasionally go to Wegman's, about 30
    miles as opposed to 2 miles for Stop & Shop.  They had some nice stuff
    so once it a while worth the trip/

    Here, I go to Publix.  Not the cheapest, but my preference. Quality,
    good service, great people.  I watch the BOGO sales and take advantage
    of them to save.  About $40 this week on items I'll use over the next couple of months.

    Tried ALDI in two locations over the years.  Never cared for them.  No reason to ever go back though some prices are lower.

    I also go to BJs every few months.  They have a few items at a good
    price, such as Kerrygold butter and cheese, wine, etc.

    We probably save about $1K/year because we buy certain things at ALDI.
    I'm into the grocery game, so I shop specials at our local supermarkets.
    Each of our family members has our own rewards account, and my son's,
    which he never uses anymore, is linked to my Yahoo email. I got a
    digital coupon for $5 off a $20 purchase that I used to get a nice chuck
    roast that was already 40% off in the ad. I think he gets those offers
    because we hardly ever use the account, and the algorithm is trying to
    lure *him* back.

    Groceries reminds me. We have spent ZERO DOLLARS on anything other than
    food and gas since before Thanksgiving. It's been over 30 years since
    I've bought nothing over Black Friday weekend. Keep this up and we'll be banking significant money every month, even before my wife starts
    getting SS.
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 10:58:57 2025
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    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 17:54:41 -0600, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/8/2025 2:47 PM, Ed P wrote:

    When I lived in CT we used to occasionally go to Wegman's, about 30
    miles as opposed to 2 miles for Stop & Shop.  They had some nice stuff
    so once it a while worth the trip/

    Here, I go to Publix.  Not the cheapest, but my preference. Quality,
    good service, great people.  I watch the BOGO sales and take advantage
    of them to save.  About $40 this week on items I'll use over the next
    couple of months.

    Tried ALDI in two locations over the years.  Never cared for them.  No
    reason to ever go back though some prices are lower.

    I also go to BJs every few months.  They have a few items at a good
    price, such as Kerrygold butter and cheese, wine, etc.

    We probably save about $1K/year because we buy certain things at ALDI.
    I'm into the grocery game, so I shop specials at our local supermarkets. >Each of our family members has our own rewards account, and my son's,
    which he never uses anymore, is linked to my Yahoo email. I got a
    digital coupon for $5 off a $20 purchase that I used to get a nice chuck >roast that was already 40% off in the ad. I think he gets those offers >because we hardly ever use the account, and the algorithm is trying to
    lure *him* back.

    Groceries reminds me. We have spent ZERO DOLLARS on anything other than
    food and gas since before Thanksgiving. It's been over 30 years since
    I've bought nothing over Black Friday weekend. Keep this up and we'll be >banking significant money every month, even before my wife starts
    getting SS.

    Thanks for the financial insights, Bryan. Your posts start competing
    with Dave's when it comes to fascinating details.
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 19:51:45 2025
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    On 12/8/2025 6:54 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:


    We probably save about $1K/year because we buy certain things at ALDI.
    I'm into the grocery game, so I shop specials at our local supermarkets. Each of our family members has our own rewards account, and my son's,
    which he never uses anymore, is linked to my Yahoo email. I got a
    digital coupon for $5 off a $20 purchase that I used to get a nice chuck roast that was already 40% off in the ad. I think he gets those offers because we hardly ever use the account, and the algorithm is trying to
    lure *him* back.

    In the past six months, I spent $760 at Publix. If you figure in the
    BOGO items, no way would I save a lot by going to ALDI. I won't touch
    their meats.



    Groceries reminds me. We have spent ZERO DOLLARS on anything other than
    food and gas since before Thanksgiving.  It's been over 30 years since
    I've bought nothing over Black Friday weekend. Keep this up and we'll be banking significant money every month, even before my wife starts
    getting SS.


    I'll buy two gifts for Christmas. Most likely Amazon as one will go to
    MA, the other to PA.
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 12:05:47 2025
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    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 19:51:45 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 12/8/2025 6:54 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:


    We probably save about $1K/year because we buy certain things at ALDI.
    I'm into the grocery game, so I shop specials at our local supermarkets.
    Each of our family members has our own rewards account, and my son's,
    which he never uses anymore, is linked to my Yahoo email. I got a
    digital coupon for $5 off a $20 purchase that I used to get a nice chuck
    roast that was already 40% off in the ad. I think he gets those offers
    because we hardly ever use the account, and the algorithm is trying to
    lure *him* back.

    In the past six months, I spent $760 at Publix. If you figure in the
    BOGO items, no way would I save a lot by going to ALDI. I won't touch
    their meats.

    We don't buy meat obviously, but everything we do buy at ALDI is
    cheaper than elsewhere. They do have less choice, though.
    --
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Mon Dec 8 20:45:54 2025
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    On 12/8/2025 8:05 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 19:51:45 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 12/8/2025 6:54 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    >
    We probably save about $1K/year because we buy certain things at ALDI.
    I'm into the grocery game, so I shop specials at our local supermarkets. >>> Each of our family members has our own rewards account, and my son's,
    which he never uses anymore, is linked to my Yahoo email. I got a
    digital coupon for $5 off a $20 purchase that I used to get a nice chuck >>> roast that was already 40% off in the ad. I think he gets those offers
    because we hardly ever use the account, and the algorithm is trying to
    lure *him* back.

    In the past six months, I spent $760 at Publix. If you figure in the
    BOGO items, no way would I save a lot by going to ALDI. I won't touch
    their meats.

    We don't buy meat obviously, but everything we do buy at ALDI is
    cheaper than elsewhere. They do have less choice, though.

    One of my issues last visit was produce. Much of it was bagged and the quantity more than what I'd use. At other stores, I can buy just one
    red pepper or onion, etc. OK for a family of six, not so much for a
    single person.

    I did buy a bottle of wine that was decent and a good price. Oh, I need
    a quarter for the cart too. Sure, saves them having to round them up
    but at inconvenience for me. I just gave the cart to someone walking to
    the store to save me the trouble. At Publix, they will take the cart
    out and load the car if you want. Surprise rain shower? They will walk
    you out with an umbrella.
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 13:00:19 2025
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    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 20:45:54 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 12/8/2025 8:05 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 19:51:45 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 12/8/2025 6:54 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    >
    We probably save about $1K/year because we buy certain things at ALDI. >>>> I'm into the grocery game, so I shop specials at our local supermarkets. >>>> Each of our family members has our own rewards account, and my son's,
    which he never uses anymore, is linked to my Yahoo email. I got a
    digital coupon for $5 off a $20 purchase that I used to get a nice chuck >>>> roast that was already 40% off in the ad. I think he gets those offers >>>> because we hardly ever use the account, and the algorithm is trying to >>>> lure *him* back.

    In the past six months, I spent $760 at Publix. If you figure in the
    BOGO items, no way would I save a lot by going to ALDI. I won't touch
    their meats.

    We don't buy meat obviously, but everything we do buy at ALDI is
    cheaper than elsewhere. They do have less choice, though.

    One of my issues last visit was produce. Much of it was bagged and the >quantity more than what I'd use. At other stores, I can buy just one
    red pepper or onion, etc. OK for a family of six, not so much for a
    single person.

    I did buy a bottle of wine that was decent and a good price. Oh, I need
    a quarter for the cart too. Sure, saves them having to round them up
    but at inconvenience for me. I just gave the cart to someone walking to
    the store to save me the trouble. At Publix, they will take the cart
    out and load the car if you want. Surprise rain shower? They will walk
    you out with an umbrella.

    I don't mind the trolley (cart) coin. It's in our car's ash tray.
    Maybe ALDI charge a bit less for things because they don't have to pay
    a dude for roaming the neighbourhood looking for abandoned trolleys.

    Here, ALDI's produce tends to be fresher than at other supermarkets,
    although with less choice.

    If I'm still alive by the time I'll develop mobility problems, I'll
    get everything delivered :)
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 06:17:13 2025
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    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/8/2025 3:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    An Aldi is also one mile from my house, and I will stop in there
    occasionally
    but their prices are creeping up and at times are no cheaper than Kroger. >> Also, if I need a special cut of meat, there is no butcher at Aldi.

    ALDI's prices are consistently lower than everyone else's. They're
    cheaper on milk and eggs, and some of their private labels are
    excellent, like anything branded Specially Selected. The Specially
    Selected ice cream is the closest thing to Haagen-Dazs. No one else
    sells a 12-pack of good tasting beer for $13.99. https://www.johnlikesbeer.com/2024/08/83124-state-of-brewings-shuteye-peak.html>


    No, Aldi is not consistently cheaper than anyone else's. Some things,
    yes, but not everything. Let's face it, they don't stock everything
    a person might want either.

    I was surprised and disappointed Aldi had no great sale on butter for Thanksgiving. I do see, a week /after/ Thanksgiving they're put their
    brand of butter on sale for $3.29. Kroger had theirs priced /before/ Thanksgiving at $2.99 per pound.

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon; Aldi has theirs in quart containers
    only at $2.95 which makes a half gallon come to $5.90. I'm not stopping
    at two stores to save 11₵. Walmart has them and Kroger beat at $5.44 per half gallon.

    As I said previously, no on-site butcher for any special cuts of meat.
    Also, as someone said on another group I frequent, no single vegetable
    items such loose onions or bell peppers. Sometimes a bag of either one
    is not wanted or needed.

    ~
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 00:28:51 2025
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    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 13:00:19 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    If I'm still alive by the time I'll develop mobility problems, I'll
    get everything delivered :)

    --
    With rat poison on the side.

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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 00:36:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:17:13 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon

    Who the heck buys a gallon of that?

    You running a restaurant?

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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 07:14:13 2025
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    On 12/8/2025 6:51 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 12/8/2025 6:54 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    ;
    We probably save about $1K/year because we buy certain things at ALDI.
    I'm into the grocery game, so I shop specials at our local
    supermarkets. Each of our family members has our own rewards account,
    and my son's, which he never uses anymore, is linked to my Yahoo
    email. I got a digital coupon for $5 off a $20 purchase that I used to
    get a nice chuck roast that was already 40% off in the ad. I think he
    gets those offers because we hardly ever use the account, and the
    algorithm is trying to lure *him* back.

    In the past six months, I spent $760 at Publix.  If you figure in the
    BOGO items, no way would I save a lot by going to ALDI.  I won't touch their meats.

    They will occasionally have something cryovac like corned beef, but
    generally I buy meat that is cut locally. It would make little
    difference to you if you shopped at ALDI. >>
    Groceries reminds me. We have spent ZERO DOLLARS on anything other
    than food and gas since before Thanksgiving.  It's been over 30 years
    since I've bought nothing over Black Friday weekend. Keep this up and
    we'll be banking significant money every month, even before my wife
    starts getting SS.


    I'll buy two gifts for Christmas.  Most likely Amazon as one will go to
    MA, the other to PA.

    I'm talking about stuff for us, but we are pretty well saturated with everything we'll need for a long time. After years of being an accumulator--not a hoarder, but *on the spectrum*--we really do have
    almost every possession we'll need, even the most obscure and trivial,
    much of it to excess, but bought mostly at extreme discounts. The only
    two gifts we'll be buying are for the 2 and 4 YO nephews.

    The only extravagance beyond pricier food that either of us is into is
    travel. First Class Amtrak is expensive. Hotels/decent motels are kind
    of expensive. I'm still having a hard time wrapping my mind around how
    we can spend money that liberally, even though we don't have jobs.

    Old habits and mindsets about spending have run up against new
    realizations about retirement. After all the chaos, hedonism, money pit artistic forays and crazy work experiences, all that shit is over. If I
    died tonight, I'd have had quite the eventful life. Now that the cat has
    died, there's no tether except in my mind. It's quite a reset.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 17:36:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    "Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:17:13 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon

    Who the heck buys a gallon of that?

    Me. Half-n-half is all I drink and cook with unless a recipe calls
    for heavy cream.

    You running a restaurant?

    No. My neighbor said she didn't know cookies and milk could be so
    good when it was half-n-half in the glass I offered her.

    ~
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 10:54:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 07:14:13 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    If I
    died tonight, I'd have had quite the eventful life. Now that the cat
    has died, there's no tether except in my mind. It's quite a reset.

    Be humble and not overly charitable and you will be tolerated, but not
    ever fully accepted.

    This is how it used to be for expats:

    https://adventuresbythebook.com/product/on-mexican-time-a-new-life-in-san-miguel-hardcover/

    Cartels and communism gutted that remnant decency.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 18:11:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    "Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:17:13 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon

    Who the heck buys a gallon of that?

    Me. Half-n-half is all I drink and cook with unless a recipe calls
    for heavy cream.

    You drink half and half? I used to know someone who drank it for
    a treat, but she drank milk for everyday.

    You running a restaurant?

    No. My neighbor said she didn't know cookies and milk could be so
    good when it was half-n-half in the glass I offered her.

    Blergh. Much too heavy for me. I've been drinking 2% for so long,
    even whole milk seems too creamy.

    I won't drink commercial eggnog because it's so thick.
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 13:25:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-09 12:36 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    "Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:


    Me. Half-n-half is all I drink and cook with unless a recipe calls
    for heavy cream.

    You running a restaurant?

    No. My neighbor said she didn't know cookies and milk could be so
    good when it was half-n-half in the glass I offered her.

    You guys gross me out. The idea of milk with cookies is bad enough.
    Forget about the cream. My brother used to drink cream. Gag gag,


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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 13:41:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-09 1:11 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-12-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    You running a restaurant?

    No. My neighbor said she didn't know cookies and milk could be so
    good when it was half-n-half in the glass I offered her.

    Blergh. Much too heavy for me. I've been drinking 2% for so long,
    even whole milk seems too creamy.

    I won't drink commercial eggnog because it's so thick.


    I would not even call it creamy. It is more like gelatinous because they
    use various thickeners to thicken it. I used to like eggnog but as I
    got holder and the lactose issue worsened and as I cultivated a bad gall bladder the side effects counteracted any pleasure derived from drinking
    it.

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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 05:43:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 13:41:46 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-12-09 1:11 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-12-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    You running a restaurant?

    No. My neighbor said she didn't know cookies and milk could be so
    good when it was half-n-half in the glass I offered her.

    Blergh. Much too heavy for me. I've been drinking 2% for so long,
    even whole milk seems too creamy.

    I won't drink commercial eggnog because it's so thick.

    I would not even call it creamy. It is more like gelatinous because they
    use various thickeners to thicken it. I used to like eggnog but as I
    got holder and the lactose issue worsened and as I cultivated a bad gall >bladder the side effects counteracted any pleasure derived from drinking
    it.

    Oh, you're lactose intolerant?
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 19:24:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    On 2025-12-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    "Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:17:13 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon

    Who the heck buys a gallon of that?

    Me. Half-n-half is all I drink and cook with unless a recipe calls
    for heavy cream.

    You drink half and half? I used to know someone who drank it for
    a treat, but she drank milk for everyday.

    I /love/ it! It's what you get used to. Whole milk tastes so bland
    to me now.

    You running a restaurant?

    No. My neighbor said she didn't know cookies and milk could be so
    good when it was half-n-half in the glass I offered her.

    Blergh. Much too heavy for me. I've been drinking 2% for so long,
    even whole milk seems too creamy.

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm. 😋  A few years ago I was buying heavy cream and mixing a bit into my whole milk. Then I thought, "Just buy half-n-half and be
    done with the mixing."

    I won't drink commercial eggnog because it's so thick.

    I love eggnog but haven't bought any in ages. I'd probably mix a bit
    of half-n-half with it to thin it out.

    ~
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 06:58:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 19:24:48 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    On 2025-12-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    "Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:17:13 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon

    Who the heck buys a gallon of that?

    Me. Half-n-half is all I drink and cook with unless a recipe calls
    for heavy cream.

    You drink half and half? I used to know someone who drank it for
    a treat, but she drank milk for everyday.

    I /love/ it! It's what you get used to. Whole milk tastes so bland
    to me now.

    I've never heard of drinking half and half. Extra saturated fat, party
    time!
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 20:18:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 19:24:48 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    You drink half and half? I used to know someone who drank it for
    a treat, but she drank milk for everyday.

    I /love/ it! It's what you get used to. Whole milk tastes so bland
    to me now.

    I've never heard of drinking half and half. Extra saturated fat, party
    time!


    A1C levels and weight have stayed the same. _Supposedly_ full fat
    milk is great for that. I can't speak with authority, though.

    ~
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 14:25:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 12:17 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/8/2025 3:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    An Aldi is also one mile from my house, and I will stop in there
    occasionally
    but their prices are creeping up and at times are no cheaper than Kroger. >>>> Also, if I need a special cut of meat, there is no butcher at Aldi.

    ALDI's prices are consistently lower than everyone else's. They're
    cheaper on milk and eggs, and some of their private labels are
    excellent, like anything branded Specially Selected. The Specially
    Selected ice cream is the closest thing to Haagen-Dazs. No one else
    sells a 12-pack of good tasting beer for $13.99.
    https://www.johnlikesbeer.com/2024/08/83124-state-of-brewings-shuteye-peak.html>


    No, Aldi is not consistently cheaper than anyone else's. Some things,
    yes, but not everything. Let's face it, they don't stock everything
    a person might want either.

    I was surprised and disappointed Aldi had no great sale on butter for Thanksgiving. I do see, a week /after/ Thanksgiving they're put their brand of butter on sale for $3.29. Kroger had theirs priced /before/ Thanksgiving at $2.99 per pound.

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon; Aldi has theirs in quart containers only at $2.95 which makes a half gallon come to $5.90. I'm not stopping
    at two stores to save 11₵. Walmart has them and Kroger beat at $5.44 per half gallon.

    Have you switched from artificial creamer? How else could one even
    begin to use a half gallon of half&half before it went off if they
    weren't using it in coffee? We make lattes with whole milk, so I haven't bought half&half in years, and we buy 40% cream and butter at one of the foodservice supply stores. I have a friend who has a membership at the
    one that requires one, and he lets me use his card, as it's a little
    cheaper than the one that doesn't require membership, and way more
    selection. Butter is only $2/#, though it doesn't come in quarters. Both stores sell 40% cream for $5.49 quart, and you can't get proper (40%)
    whipping cream at Kroger, Whole Foods, or almost anywhere these days.
    There's one near you that doesn't require membership, and butter is
    $2.99 there every day.
    Gordon Food Service Store, 317 Bluebird Dr, Goodlettsville, TN 37072

    As I said previously, no on-site butcher for any special cuts of meat.
    Also, as someone said on another group I frequent, no single vegetable
    items such loose onions or bell peppers. Sometimes a bag of either one
    is not wanted or needed.

    If I could only shop one store, it wouldn't be ALDI, but I do save money buying a lot of things there. I go to one or another grocery store more
    days than not, and often hit Schnuck's, then ALDI on the way back.
    Everything is close. ALDI is one mile. The giant Schnucks that has a
    meat counter is 1.2, and the little Schnuck's that almost never has long
    lines is 1.3. Even the Italian store is only 4.1 miles. There's a
    WalMart a few blocks away that's the only place that carries the bread
    my wife loves. Dierberg's (the other big supermarket here), Trader
    Joe's, World Market and Total Wine all 1.2 miles. Whole Foods, 1.5
    miles, and none of those stores I mentioned require driving on any
    street with a >30 MPH speed limit.

    If one had to live in St. Louis, there's no better place than Richmond Heights. Our world class zoo is 2.7 miles. Our world class Botanical
    garden, where we're meeting my wife's parents today is 5 miles.
    Libraries .5, 1.0, 1.7 and 2.4 miles. Rec center .5 miles, and most importantly, 1.8 miles from our best friend--my wife's parents.

    I do know that no one here cares about these details, but I got on a
    roll with the distances on Google Maps and ran with it.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/cmDuTnVcKBtRM9uM6

    I just saw the sneak peek, and Schnuck's has CAB bottom round roasts for $5.99/#. That's pretty much ground beef price, and cheaper than the
    $7.49 price I paid yesterday for a chuck roast at the same store.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 14:38:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 11:54 AM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 07:14:13 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    If I
    died tonight, I'd have had quite the eventful life. Now that the cat
    has died, there's no tether except in my mind. It's quite a reset.

    Be humble and not overly charitable and you will be tolerated, but not
    ever fully accepted.

    We will just be spending 10-12 weeks a year there, and staying at
    hotels, not AirBnBs. Locals resent those short term rentals because it increases their rents>
    This is how it used to be for expats:

    https://adventuresbythebook.com/product/on-mexican-time-a-new-life-in-san-miguel-hardcover/

    Cartels and communism gutted that remnant decency.

    If you stay in the safe parts, Mexico City is safe. There are A LOT of
    well armed police on the streets. People have asked me if I was worried
    about safely and I've replied, "We live in St. Louis." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_St._Louis

    Also, only a fascist would call Mexico communist.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 20:52:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 12:17 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon; Aldi has theirs in quart containers only at $2.95 which makes a half gallon come to $5.90. I'm not stopping
    at two stores to save 11₵. Walmart has them and Kroger beat at $5.44 per half gallon.

    Have you switched from artificial creamer? How else could one even
    begin to use a half gallon of half&half before it went off if they
    weren't using it in coffee? I have a friend who has a membership at the
    one that requires one, and he lets me use his card, as it's a little
    cheaper than the one that doesn't require membership, and way more selection.
    There's one near you that doesn't require membership, and butter is
    $2.99 there every day.
    Gordon Food Service Store, 317 Bluebird Dr, Goodlettsville, TN 37072

    I have shopped GFS numerous times, but at the moment my stand-alone freezer
    is bulging with butter. Pretty much three times a year stores will have 'butter sales' at Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter and that's when I
    stock up.

    I just saw the sneak peek, and Schnuck's has CAB bottom round roasts for $5.99/#. That's pretty much ground beef price, and cheaper than the
    $7.49 price I paid yesterday for a chuck roast at the same store.

    Unless you're slicing that bottom round roast paper thin for sandwiches,
    get ready for some prolonged cooking or serious chewing. /OR/ you can
    slice it ½-¾" thick and pound the hell out of it to make chicken fried or country fried steak.

    ~
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 14:28:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 14:38:44 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/9/2025 11:54 AM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 07:14:13 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    If I
    died tonight, I'd have had quite the eventful life. Now that the
    cat has died, there's no tether except in my mind. It's quite a
    reset.

    Be humble and not overly charitable and you will be tolerated, but
    not ever fully accepted.

    We will just be spending 10-12 weeks a year there, and staying at
    hotels, not AirBnBs. Locals resent those short term rentals because
    it increases their rents>
    An educated answer.
    This is how it used to be for expats:

    https://adventuresbythebook.com/product/on-mexican-time-a-new-life-in-san-miguel-hardcover/

    Cartels and communism gutted that remnant decency.

    If you stay in the safe parts, Mexico City is safe.
    Uh, not so much.
    https://www.bhtp.com/blog/safe-travel-mexico-city
    Given the crime picture, what are specific steps you can take to stay safe in Mexico City? These, for starters:
    Choose hotels or Airbnbs in reputable neighborhoods. Look for well-lit properties with security measures.
    Avoid carrying large amounts of cash or valuables.
    Consider “hardening” yourself as a target by choosing backpacks and purses with cut-proof straps and clothing with several layers of Velcro and snaps securing valuables.
    Download and use safety apps like GeoSure and Noonlight.
    Stay alert and aware of your surroundings, especially at night and on public transportation.
    Speaking of public transportation, avoid it if you can.
    Use authorized taxis from reputable companies or ride-sharing apps like Uber or Didi.
    Avoid unmarked taxis, particularly at night.
    Stick to well-lit, established bars and clubs in safe areas. Let someone know where you're going and when you expect to be back.
    Book tours with reputable companies like Journey Mexico and avoid
    venturing off on your own, especially to unfamiliar areas.
    There are A LOT
    of well armed police on the streets. People have asked me if I was
    worried about safely and I've replied, "We live in St. Louis." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_St._Louis

    Also, only a fascist would call Mexico communist.
    Their former mayor (Scheinbaum) who is now la Presidente is a raving
    communist protege of Amlo, who supercharged cartel power.
    AI Overview
    Political Affiliation: Sheinbaum belongs to the Morena party (Movimiento para la Regeneración Nacional), a left-wing political party founded by AMLO. The party's agenda is generally described as populist and focused on a "socialist agenda" by its critics, but more accurately described as a modern progressive or social democratic movement by others.
    Relationship with AMLO: Sheinbaum is indeed a close ally and hand-picked successor of AMLO, vowing to continue his legacy and the "Fourth Transformation" (4T) movement. She is widely seen as his "protege" in a political sense.
    Family Background: Sheinbaum's family has historical ties to communist movements; her father was involved with the Mexican Communist Party during youth protests in the 1960s, and her paternal grandparents were Lithuanian Jewish immigrants who were active members of the Mexican Communist Party in the 1920s and 30s.
    https://tempestmag.org/2024/07/claudia-sheinbaum-and-mexicos-new-regime-in-formation/
    Claudia Sheinbaum comes from a political and academic family with links
    to the Communist Party of Mexico. As a member of the University Student
    Council movement (CEU) at the National Autonomous University of Mexico
    (UNAM) in the late 1980s, Sheinbaum also participated in struggles
    against privatization...
    Abortion was decriminalized in a September 2023 decision of Mexico’s Supreme Court, based on its September 2021 rulings declaring abortion bans unconstitutional, laying the basis for state-by-state challenges to anti-abortion laws. See “Mexican Trotskyists Call for Free Abortion On Demand,” The Internationalist No. 65, October-December 2021.
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 16:16:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 1:24 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    On 2025-12-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    "Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:17:13 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon

    Who the heck buys a gallon of that?

    Me. Half-n-half is all I drink and cook with unless a recipe calls
    for heavy cream.

    You drink half and half? I used to know someone who drank it for
    a treat, but she drank milk for everyday.

    I /love/ it! It's what you get used to. Whole milk tastes so bland
    to me now.

    You running a restaurant?

    No. My neighbor said she didn't know cookies and milk could be so
    good when it was half-n-half in the glass I offered her.

    Blergh. Much too heavy for me. I've been drinking 2% for so long,
    even whole milk seems too creamy.

    When I was in school, I used to buy a lot of milk, sometimes as many as
    5 or 6 half pints. In 1st and 2nd grade, they were 2 cents. By high
    school they were 10 cents. It was whole milk, and the best we had at
    home was 2%. I'm glad that many others like that watery stuff because it
    keeps cream and butter prices lower. The other thing at home was there
    was only margarine, which I'd quit eating before I can even remember
    (age 4?).>
    Mmmmmmmmmmmm. 😋  A few years ago I was buying heavy cream and mixing a bit into my whole milk. Then I thought, "Just buy half-n-half and be
    done with the mixing."

    I've certainly mixed a little cream into the whole milk many times, but
    not to the point of half and half. That's pretty hardcore. Half and half
    is 10.5% butterfat. It is bizarre that you drink half and half and put
    that icky artificial junk into coffee.

    Tonight we'll be having cheesy spinach, made with heavy cream and
    cheese. I cut a few chunks off a chuck roast, and rendered the fat using
    the 340F saute feature. Then, I browned the meat, turned the temp down
    to 135F, stuck a lid on it, and there it will stay until dinner.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
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  • From jmquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 17:40:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 1:17 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/8/2025 3:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    An Aldi is also one mile from my house, and I will stop in there
    occasionally
    but their prices are creeping up and at times are no cheaper than Kroger. >>>> Also, if I need a special cut of meat, there is no butcher at Aldi.

    ALDI's prices are consistently lower than everyone else's. They're
    cheaper on milk and eggs, and some of their private labels are
    excellent, like anything branded Specially Selected. The Specially
    Selected ice cream is the closest thing to Haagen-Dazs. No one else
    sells a 12-pack of good tasting beer for $13.99.
    https://www.johnlikesbeer.com/2024/08/83124-state-of-brewings-shuteye-peak.html>


    No, Aldi is not consistently cheaper than anyone else's. Some things,
    yes, but not everything. Let's face it, they don't stock everything
    a person might want either.

    I was surprised and disappointed Aldi had no great sale on butter for Thanksgiving. I do see, a week /after/ Thanksgiving they're put their brand of butter on sale for $3.29. Kroger had theirs priced /before/ Thanksgiving at $2.99 per pound.

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon; Aldi has theirs in quart containers only at $2.95 which makes a half gallon come to $5.90. I'm not stopping
    at two stores to save 11₵. Walmart has them and Kroger beat at $5.44 per half gallon.

    As I said previously, no on-site butcher for any special cuts of meat.
    Also, as someone said on another group I frequent, no single vegetable
    items such loose onions or bell peppers. Sometimes a bag of either one
    is not wanted or needed.

    ~

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year. I have not bothered to
    drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything. As you
    say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents?
    Or even a dollar.

    Jill
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 18:04:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year.  I have not bothered to
    drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything.  As you
    say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents?
    Or even a dollar.

    I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items. I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

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  • From jmquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 18:20:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 6:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year.  I have not bothered to
    drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything.  As you
    say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents?
    Or even a dollar.

     I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items.  I hate to imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    That's the way I look at it, Dave. Why waste gasoline driving all over
    town to all different stores to save a few bucks? It doesn't save
    money. I will not spend all day grocery shopping. Someone else
    mentioned (maybe Ed) you have to pay a deposit for a shopping cart and
    get your money back when you return it. Uh, no. I always return the
    free shopping cart (and don't always need one, sometimes just a hand
    held basket) where it belongs when I exit the store.

    Jill
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 18:46:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 6:20 PM, jmquown wrote:
    On 12/9/2025 6:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

      I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items.  I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    That's the way I look at it, Dave.  Why waste gasoline driving all over town to all different stores to save a few bucks?  It doesn't save
    money.  I will not spend all day grocery shopping.  Someone else
    mentioned (maybe Ed) you have to pay a deposit for a shopping cart and
    get your money back when you return it.  Uh, no.  I always return the
    free shopping cart (and don't always need one, sometimes just a hand
    held basket) where it belongs when I exit the store.

    Jill

    I can save 10 cents a gallon on gas if I go to BJs. It is a 32 mile
    round trip. I'd burn $2.15 in gas to save about $1.30.

    Dave's friend may save a few pennies if the stores are located close
    enough but I'm not willing to spend a lot of time to save 10 cents on a
    can of beans. Sure, I check out the BOGO sales, but I'm going to be
    there for something anyway so stock up on some favorites. If not a
    favorite and don't need two, I donate the freebie.
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 23:58:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 1:24 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    A few years ago I was buying heavy cream and mixing a
    bit into my whole milk. Then I thought, "Just buy half-n-half and be
    done with the mixing."

    I've certainly mixed a little cream into the whole milk many times, but
    not to the point of half and half. That's pretty hardcore. Half and half
    is 10.5% butterfat. It is bizarre that you drink half and half and put
    that icky artificial junk into coffee.

    It's bizarre that you drink beer and put that icky junk into your stomach.
    All it does it flush out your bladder and give you a beer gut.

    Tonight we'll be having cheesy spinach, made with heavy cream and
    cheese. I cut a few chunks off a chuck roast, and rendered the fat using
    the 340F saute feature. Then, I browned the meat, turned the temp down
    to 135F, stuck a lid on it, and there it will stay until dinner.

    Tonight, it will be the vegetable beef soup I wrote about Monday evening.
    It's on a bare simmer now.

    ~
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 12:31:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 18:04:29 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year.  I have not bothered to
    drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything.  As you
    say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents?
    Or even a dollar.

    I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items. I hate to >imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    If they were very cheap, they'd have done the math.
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 12:35:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 18:20:56 -0500, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 12/9/2025 6:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

     I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items.  I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    That's the way I look at it, Dave. Why waste gasoline driving all over
    town to all different stores to save a few bucks? It doesn't save
    money. I will not spend all day grocery shopping. Someone else
    mentioned (maybe Ed) you have to pay a deposit for a shopping cart and
    get your money back when you return it. Uh, no. I always return the
    free shopping cart (and don't always need one, sometimes just a hand
    held basket) where it belongs when I exit the store.

    Here, at ALDI, you need a one or two dollar coin (or a dedicated ALDI
    coin) to use a shopping cart. You get the coin back when you return
    the cart, what every half-decent person does anyway. To call that a
    "deposit" is extremely dramatic :)
    --
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 20:30:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 5:58 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 1:24 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    A few years ago I was buying heavy cream and mixing a
    bit into my whole milk. Then I thought, "Just buy half-n-half and be
    done with the mixing."
    >
    I've certainly mixed a little cream into the whole milk many times, but
    not to the point of half and half. That's pretty hardcore. Half and half
    is 10.5% butterfat. It is bizarre that you drink half and half and put
    that icky artificial junk into coffee.

    It's bizarre that you drink beer and put that icky junk into your stomach. All it does it flush out your bladder and give you a beer gut.

    It does do the beer gut thing, but there are many positives. Beer has
    been around for millennia. Coffee mate is a modern concoction for folks
    who were too poor to afford real dairy, or were ill informed enough to
    think that it was more healthful, which was the conventional wisdom in
    the 1960s. Middle income folks saw that crown appear above the heads of
    folks who ate Imperial margarine. As recently as a few years ago, ALDI
    carried Imperial margarine. I'd see old people buy it.

    My mother used artificial creamer. I did too up until 2nd or 3rd grade,
    when I quit drinking coffee. She bought the cheapest, shittiest coffee,
    Dana Brown Safari. By 8th or 9th grade, I'd occasionally drink coffee,
    but only at Steak 'n Shake, where they had half&half. >
    Tonight we'll be having cheesy spinach, made with heavy cream and
    cheese. I cut a few chunks off a chuck roast, and rendered the fat using
    the 340F saute feature. Then, I browned the meat, turned the temp down
    to 135F, stuck a lid on it, and there it will stay until dinner.

    Tonight, it will be the vegetable beef soup I wrote about Monday evening. It's on a bare simmer now.

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened. https://photos.app.goo.gl/W3nYuRWdwPPn1PxV9
    Disappointingly, the beef ended up med well rather than medium. The
    cheesy spinach was sublime. Today, my m-i-l law told me that I must make
    it for Christmas. That was weird, because she generally does not eat
    cheese other than feta or soft goat cheese. She thinks it might trigger migraines. Perhaps another relative gushed about it after TG. We'd eat
    it more often, but eating too much spinach is unhealthful because of the oxalic acid.

    We'll find out her motivation after tomorrow. Betsy is meeting them for *Wednesdays at The Wolf*. I don't go because there's nothing at The
    Wolf that I'd enjoy eating. I have nothing bad to say about their food
    other than it is not my style. https://thewolfstl.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Wolf-lunch.pdf
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 20:40:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 2:52 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 12:17 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon; Aldi has theirs in quart containers >>> only at $2.95 which makes a half gallon come to $5.90. I'm not stopping >>> at two stores to save 11₵. Walmart has them and Kroger beat at $5.44 per >>> half gallon.
    >
    Have you switched from artificial creamer? How else could one even
    begin to use a half gallon of half&half before it went off if they
    weren't using it in coffee? I have a friend who has a membership at the
    one that requires one, and he lets me use his card, as it's a little
    cheaper than the one that doesn't require membership, and way more
    selection.
    There's one near you that doesn't require membership, and butter is
    $2.99 there every day.
    Gordon Food Service Store, 317 Bluebird Dr, Goodlettsville, TN 37072

    I have shopped GFS numerous times, but at the moment my stand-alone freezer is bulging with butter. Pretty much three times a year stores will have 'butter sales' at Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter and that's when I
    stock up.

    I just saw the sneak peek, and Schnuck's has CAB bottom round roasts for
    $5.99/#. That's pretty much ground beef price, and cheaper than the
    $7.49 price I paid yesterday for a chuck roast at the same store.

    Unless you're slicing that bottom round roast paper thin for sandwiches,
    get ready for some prolonged cooking or serious chewing. /OR/ you can slice it ½-¾" thick and pound the hell out of it to make chicken fried or country fried steak.
    I do round roasts at absurdly low temperatures, and while I don't have
    the skills or kick-ass knives to achieve paper thin, they are thinly
    sliced. Because our stupid oven only goes down to 170F. I cycle it like
    an obsolete microwave, turning it completely off for a bit, then back to
    170.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 20:59:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Bruce wrote on 12/9/2025 1:58 PM:
    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 19:24:48 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    On 2025-12-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    "Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:17:13 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon

    Who the heck buys a gallon of that?

    Me. Half-n-half is all I drink and cook with unless a recipe calls
    for heavy cream.

    You drink half and half? I used to know someone who drank it for
    a treat, but she drank milk for everyday.

    I /love/ it! It's what you get used to. Whole milk tastes so bland
    to me now.

    I've never heard of drinking half and half. Extra saturated fat, party
    time!


    I'm surprised you'd drink any type of milk. Aren't you at all concerned
    about animal abuse? Your milk comes from mistreated animals.


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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 21:16:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Bryan Simmons wrote on 12/9/2025 2:25 PM:
    On 12/9/2025 12:17 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/8/2025 3:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    An Aldi is also one mile from my house, and I will stop in there
    occasionally
    but their prices are creeping up and at times are no cheaper than
    Kroger.
    Also, if I need a special cut of meat, there is no butcher at Aldi.

    ALDI's prices are consistently lower than everyone else's. They're
    cheaper on milk and eggs, and some of their private labels are
    excellent, like anything branded Specially Selected. The Specially
    Selected ice cream is the closest thing to Haagen-Dazs. No one else
    sells a 12-pack of good tasting beer for $13.99.
    https://www.johnlikesbeer.com/2024/08/83124-state-of-brewings-shuteye-peak.html>



    No, Aldi is not consistently cheaper than anyone else's. Some things,
    yes, but not everything. Let's face it, they don't stock everything
    a person might want either.

    I was surprised and disappointed Aldi had no great sale on butter for
    Thanksgiving. I do see, a week /after/ Thanksgiving they're put their
    brand of butter on sale for $3.29. Kroger had theirs priced /before/
    Thanksgiving at $2.99 per pound.

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon; Aldi has theirs in quart containers
    only at $2.95 which makes a half gallon come to $5.90. I'm not stopping
    at two stores to save 11₵. Walmart has them and Kroger beat at
    $5.44 per
    half gallon.

    Have you switched from artificial creamer? How else could one even
    begin to use a half gallon of half&half before it went off if they
    weren't using it in coffee? We make lattes with whole milk, so I haven't bought half&half in years, and we buy 40% cream and butter at one of the foodservice supply stores. I have a friend who has a membership at the
    one that requires one, and he lets me use his card, as it's a little
    cheaper than the one that doesn't require membership, and way more selection. Butter is only $2/#, though it doesn't come in quarters. Both stores sell 40% cream for $5.49 quart, and you can't get proper (40%) whipping cream at Kroger, Whole Foods, or almost anywhere these days.
    There's one near you that doesn't require membership, and butter is
    $2.99 there every day.
    Gordon Food Service Store, 317 Bluebird Dr, Goodlettsville, TN 37072

    As I said previously, no on-site butcher for any special cuts of meat.
    Also, as someone said on another group I frequent, no single vegetable
    items such loose onions or bell peppers. Sometimes a bag of either one
    is not wanted or needed.

    If I could only shop one store, it wouldn't be ALDI, but I do save money buying a lot of things there. I go to one or another grocery store more
    days than not, and often hit Schnuck's, then ALDI on the way back. Everything is close. ALDI is one mile. The giant Schnucks that has a
    meat counter is 1.2, and the little Schnuck's that almost never has long lines is 1.3. Even the Italian store is only 4.1 miles. There's a
    WalMart a few blocks away that's the only place that carries the bread
    my wife loves. Dierberg's (the other big supermarket here), Trader
    Joe's, World Market and Total Wine all 1.2 miles. Whole Foods, 1.5
    miles, and none of those stores I mentioned require driving on any
    street with a >30 MPH speed limit.

    If one had to live in St. Louis, there's no better place than Richmond Heights. Our world class zoo is 2.7 miles. Our world class Botanical
    garden, where we're meeting my wife's parents today is 5 miles.
    Libraries .5, 1.0, 1.7 and 2.4 miles. Rec center .5 miles, and most importantly, 1.8 miles from our best friend--my wife's parents.

    I do know that no one here cares about these details, but

    Chef, You're gonna shit when you realize you no longer have these
    wondrous places after you permanently move to old mexico.

    At least you'll be able to get excellent tortillas for really cheap dinero.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 03:48:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 5:58 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 1:24 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    I've certainly mixed a little cream into the whole milk many times, but
    not to the point of half and half. That's pretty hardcore. Half and half >> is 10.5% butterfat. It is bizarre that you drink half and half and put
    that icky artificial junk into coffee.

    It's bizarre that you drink beer and put that icky junk into your stomach. All it does it flush out your bladder and give you a beer gut.

    It does do the beer gut thing, but there are many positives. Beer has
    been around for millennia. Coffee mate is a modern concoction for folks
    who were too poor to afford real dairy, or were ill informed enough to
    think that it was more healthful, which was the conventional wisdom in
    the 1960s.

    I just like the taste of the powder creamer, and it doesn't cool off my
    coffee either. I can well afford all the fancy flavored creamers and
    syrups and of course cream as much as my refrigerator can store, it's
    just a matter of preference.

    My mother used artificial creamer. I did too up until 2nd or 3rd grade, when I quit drinking coffee. She bought the cheapest, shittiest coffee,
    Dana Brown Safari. By 8th or 9th grade, I'd occasionally drink coffee,
    but only at Steak 'n Shake, where they had half&half.

    I did not develop a taste for coffee until my late 30's. And I certainly wasn't allowed to drink it as a child even if they diluted with 90% milk.

    Tonight we'll be having cheesy spinach, made with heavy cream and
    cheese. I cut a few chunks off a chuck roast, and rendered the fat using >> the 340F saute feature. Then, I browned the meat, turned the temp down
    to 135F, stuck a lid on it, and there it will stay until dinner.

    Tonight, it will be the vegetable beef soup I wrote about Monday evening. It's on a bare simmer now.

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened.
    The cheesy spinach was sublime. We'd eat it more often, but eating too
    much spinach is unhealthful because of the oxalic acid.

    You can eat it daily unless you have specific health conditions. It can interfere with certain medications, too.

    ~
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 15:04:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 20:59:57 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote on 12/9/2025 1:58 PM:
    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 19:24:48 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    I /love/ it! It's what you get used to. Whole milk tastes so bland
    to me now.

    I've never heard of drinking half and half. Extra saturated fat, party
    time!

    I'm surprised you'd drink any type of milk. Aren't you at all concerned >about animal abuse? Your milk comes from mistreated animals.

    Do I notice burgeoning awareness? In a troll of all people? I'm
    happily surprised!
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 15:16:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 03:48:37 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened.
    The cheesy spinach was sublime. We'd eat it more often, but eating too
    much spinach is unhealthful because of the oxalic acid.

    You can eat it daily unless you have specific health conditions. It can >interfere with certain medications, too.

    If you eat meat almost every day, I wouldn't worry too much about
    spinach.
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Dec 9 22:17:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 20:30:01 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened. https://photos.app.goo.gl/W3nYuRWdwPPn1PxV9
    Disappointingly, the beef ended up med well rather than medium. The
    cheesy spinach was sublime.

    This is where if you use cheap meat you fight muscled meat.

    Try a skirt steak or flatiron - not a lot more than your roasts per lb. frankly.

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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 00:35:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net wrote:
    ...
    A1C levels and weight have stayed the same. _Supposedly_ full fat
    milk is great for that. I can't speak with authority, though.

    genetics seem to play a role. some poor people just cannot
    deal with fats that others can.

    an actual real scientific study could figure this sort of
    thing out but any real funding for such a study is bound to
    be messed with by the various industries and lobbies involved.

    we've had 50+yrs of pretty much wasted time and millions of
    lives screwed up.

    the scientist asks: "Wouldn't this be useful to know?"


    songbird
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 00:40:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Dave Smith wrote:
    ...
    You guys gross me out. The idea of milk with cookies is bad enough.
    Forget about the cream. My brother used to drink cream. Gag gag,

    i love it all, i will eat sour cream and enjoy it, i'll also
    drink the whey off the tops of yogurts, sour cream, etc. while
    Mom will pour them down the sink.

    dairy is one of those foods that can have some benefit for
    your other inhabitants (the microbes in your gut), but if you
    don't normally eat much dairy then it can cause issues and of
    course some people don't have the tolerance at all (depends
    upon your heritage aka genetics).


    songbird
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 00:44:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year.  I have not bothered to
    drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything.  As you
    say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents?
    Or even a dollar.

    I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items. I hate to imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...


    songbird
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 00:31:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net wrote:

    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    On 2025-12-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    "Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:17:13 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon

    Who the heck buys a gallon of that?

    Me. Half-n-half is all I drink and cook with unless a recipe calls
    for heavy cream.

    You drink half and half? I used to know someone who drank it for
    a treat, but she drank milk for everyday.

    I /love/ it! It's what you get used to. Whole milk tastes so bland
    to me now.

    You running a restaurant?

    No. My neighbor said she didn't know cookies and milk could be so
    good when it was half-n-half in the glass I offered her.

    Blergh. Much too heavy for me. I've been drinking 2% for so long,
    even whole milk seems too creamy.

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm. 😋  A few years ago I was buying heavy cream and mixing a bit into my whole milk. Then I thought, "Just buy half-n-half and be
    done with the mixing."

    I won't drink commercial eggnog because it's so thick.

    I love eggnog but haven't bought any in ages. I'd probably mix a bit
    of half-n-half with it to thin it out.

    it is funny how different people react to the various
    milks.

    i can drink all of them from skim to eggnog and the many
    other "milks" too. Mom will freak out if it isn't skim
    milk (aka nearly water to me but i can still drink it and
    not be bothered).

    when making hot chocolate sometimes i like to add some
    whipping cream (heavy cream) to it - yes it is hot chocolate
    season here (well ok, it can always be hot chocolate season
    here but more frequent when the weather turns to cool again).


    songbird
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 19:23:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:35:56 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
    wrote:

    ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net wrote:
    ...
    A1C levels and weight have stayed the same. _Supposedly_ full fat
    milk is great for that. I can't speak with authority, though.

    genetics seem to play a role. some poor people just cannot
    deal with fats that others can.

    an actual real scientific study could figure this sort of
    thing out but any real funding for such a study is bound to
    be messed with by the various industries and lobbies involved.

    we've had 50+yrs of pretty much wasted time and millions of
    lives screwed up.

    the scientist asks: "Wouldn't this be useful to know?"

    It's not that complicated. Just check your cholesterol every now and
    then. If it gets too high, cut back on the full fat stuff.
    --
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 19:25:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:44:31 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
    wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year.  I have not bothered to
    drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything.  As you
    say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents?
    Or even a dollar.

    I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items. I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...

    Bingo.
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 09:48:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-10, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net wrote:
    ...
    A1C levels and weight have stayed the same. _Supposedly_ full fat
    milk is great for that. I can't speak with authority, though.

    genetics seem to play a role. some poor people just cannot
    deal with fats that others can.

    an actual real scientific study

    A double-blind study? Could be tricky lining up subjects to
    eat something they can't recognize.

    How long will the scientists follow the subject? Until they've died of whatever they've been fed?
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 08:26:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-10 12:35 a.m., songbird wrote:
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net wrote:
    ...
    A1C levels and weight have stayed the same. _Supposedly_ full fat
    milk is great for that. I can't speak with authority, though.

    genetics seem to play a role. some poor people just cannot
    deal with fats that others can.

    an actual real scientific study could figure this sort of
    thing out but any real funding for such a study is bound to
    be messed with by the various industries and lobbies involved.

    we've had 50+yrs of pretty much wasted time and millions of
    lives screwed up.

    the scientist asks: "Wouldn't this be useful to know?"

    We are indeed all different. My father insisted on cream in his coffee
    and tea and he like whole milk on his cereal. My brothers all loved
    whipped cream and can eat bowls of it. I limit it to a small dab on top
    of a bowl of fruit. My mother did not like cream. She did not even like butter. My wife loves cream. She likes cream in her coffee and will
    often put whipping cream in it.



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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 08:36:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-10 12:44 a.m., songbird wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items. I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    They probably did but I am not sure the guy understood economy as much
    as he obsessed over it. I remember going to a Greek restaurant for
    supper and he was curious about their special, grilled pork tenderloin.
    He said he had never had pork tenderloin. He had seen it in the store
    many times but thought it was way too expensive. He was going by the
    cost per pound not the cost per serving. I tried to explain to him that
    is is a very versatile meat and that a little goes a long way.


    He and his wife wanted to get a mini van and drove all over checking out deals. He kept asking me about my Mazda MPV. I loved that car. I had
    driven Ford and Dodge vans and thought the Mazda was far superior. He
    liked the Mazda but it was too expensive. He ended up getting a Ford.
    The first time he brought it to work there was about 4" of snow. He
    pulled into the parking lot behind me. I had pulled in and backed into a space. He pulled up, honked to get my attention to his new vehicle and
    then he tried to back up. He was stuck in the snow. A few weeks later
    he took his family south for a warm vacation and made it as far as
    southern PA where he got tangled up in a 50 car pile and the Ford was totalled. I didn't see the economy in that car.







    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...
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  • From Jim@jim@invalid.none to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 08:48:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    In article <Vxe_Q.1009$tt1a.363@fx47.iad>, adavid.smith@sympatico.ca
    Dave Smith says...
    My father insisted on cream in his coffee
    and tea and he like whole milk on his cereal. My brothers all loved
    whipped cream and can eat bowls of it. I limit it to a small dab on top
    of a bowl of fruit. My mother did not like cream. She did not even like butter. My wife loves cream. She likes cream in her coffee and will
    often put whipping cream in it.


    Thanks for the momentous update!

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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 08:49:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/10/2025 12:44 AM, songbird wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year.  I have not bothered to
    drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything.  As you
    say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents?
    Or even a dollar.

    I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items. I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...


    songbird

    Perhaps they do, but most people have no idea of the cost of operating a vehicle. Gas? Yes, that is a part of it, but most people leave out all
    the other factors that cost on a per mile basis. There are three active
    and four passive cost factors. Do you think they are adding them too?
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 08:00:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 9:48 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 5:58 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 1:24 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    I've certainly mixed a little cream into the whole milk many times, but >>>> not to the point of half and half. That's pretty hardcore. Half and half >>>> is 10.5% butterfat. It is bizarre that you drink half and half and put >>>> that icky artificial junk into coffee.

    It's bizarre that you drink beer and put that icky junk into your stomach. >>> All it does it flush out your bladder and give you a beer gut.
    >
    It does do the beer gut thing, but there are many positives. Beer has
    been around for millennia. Coffee mate is a modern concoction for folks
    who were too poor to afford real dairy, or were ill informed enough to
    think that it was more healthful, which was the conventional wisdom in
    the 1960s.

    I just like the taste of the powder creamer, and it doesn't cool off my coffee either. I can well afford all the fancy flavored creamers and
    syrups and of course cream as much as my refrigerator can store, it's
    just a matter of preference.

    My mother used artificial creamer. I did too up until 2nd or 3rd grade,
    when I quit drinking coffee. She bought the cheapest, shittiest coffee,
    Dana Brown Safari. By 8th or 9th grade, I'd occasionally drink coffee,
    but only at Steak 'n Shake, where they had half&half.

    I did not develop a taste for coffee until my late 30's. And I certainly wasn't allowed to drink it as a child even if they diluted with 90% milk.

    I think I had coffee for the first time when I was 5 or 6. I don't know
    why a parent would forbid coffee. Heck, iced tea and even Coke have
    caffeine. I didn't drink a lot at a time. Come to think of it, I quit
    drinking it after 4th grade because that's when my father left, and my
    mother downgraded to the shitty coffee. The thing that I wasn't "allowed
    to" have was rare beef, because it grossed my father out to see anyone
    eat rare meat.>
    Tonight we'll be having cheesy spinach, made with heavy cream and
    cheese. I cut a few chunks off a chuck roast, and rendered the fat using >>>> the 340F saute feature. Then, I browned the meat, turned the temp down >>>> to 135F, stuck a lid on it, and there it will stay until dinner.

    Tonight, it will be the vegetable beef soup I wrote about Monday evening. >>> It's on a bare simmer now.

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened.
    The cheesy spinach was sublime. We'd eat it more often, but eating too
    much spinach is unhealthful because of the oxalic acid.

    You can eat it daily unless you have specific health conditions. It can interfere with certain medications, too.

    Not in the quantities I eat it in. I don't like it raw. Yesterday I made
    about 3 pounds for the two of us. That's easily at least twenty times
    the spinach that might be in a green salad. When I was a little kid, I
    hated almost everything green except green beans that I merely disliked,
    but ate without complaining, and spinach which I adored. I even drank
    the water. When my mother would make spinach, she'd make 2 of the little
    10 oz boxes of frozen because I loved it so much. There was never any
    left over. Now that I've discovered the 4# bags of fresh baby spinach at
    the restaurant store, those little boxes seem like dollhouse toys.
    --
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 08:57:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 11:40 PM, songbird wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    ...
    You guys gross me out. The idea of milk with cookies is bad enough.
    Forget about the cream. My brother used to drink cream. Gag gag,

    I wouldn't mind you being gagged for a while.>
    i love it all, i will eat sour cream and enjoy it, i'll also
    drink the whey off the tops of yogurts, sour cream, etc. while
    Mom will pour them down the sink.

    This stuff is great.
    https://www.lalafoods.com/products/lala-crema-mexicana/>
    dairy is one of those foods that can have some benefit for
    your other inhabitants (the microbes in your gut), but if you
    don't normally eat much dairy then it can cause issues and of
    course some people don't have the tolerance at all (depends
    upon your heritage aka genetics).

    While there are folks who have allergies to milk proteins, most folks
    who have intolerance to milk just can't break down the lactose. A
    handful of those lactase tablets and they're good to go.>
    songbird
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 09:07:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 11:17 PM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 20:30:01 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/W3nYuRWdwPPn1PxV9
    Disappointingly, the beef ended up med well rather than medium. The
    cheesy spinach was sublime.

    This is where if you use cheap meat you fight muscled meat.

    It wasn't the tenderness, but the flavor. It was going to be tough
    either way. It's chuck. Tomorrow, the local Fresh Thyme will have
    $5.99/# chuck roasts. I bought the chuck for pot roast, but cut a little
    off as the side dish to the cheesy spinach.>
    Try a skirt steak or flatiron - not a lot more than your roasts per lb. frankly.

    It's WAY more, at least in St. Louis. Regular supermarkets don't even
    sell those. You have to go to the Mexican carniceria or an expensive
    butcher shop.
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 09:34:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 9:16 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Bryan Simmons wrote on 12/9/2025 2:25 PM:
    On 12/9/2025 12:17 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/8/2025 3:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    An Aldi is also one mile from my house, and I will stop in there
    occasionally
    but their prices are creeping up and at times are no cheaper than >>>>>> Kroger.
    Also, if I need a special cut of meat, there is no butcher at Aldi. >>>>>>
    ALDI's prices are consistently lower than everyone else's. They're
    cheaper on milk and eggs, and some of their private labels are
    excellent, like anything branded Specially Selected. The Specially
    Selected ice cream is the closest thing to Haagen-Dazs. No one else
    sells a 12-pack of good tasting beer for $13.99.
    https://www.johnlikesbeer.com/2024/08/83124-state-of-brewings-
    shuteye-peak.html>


    No, Aldi is not consistently cheaper than anyone else's.  Some things,
    yes, but not everything.   Let's face it, they don't stock everything
    a person might want either.

    I was surprised and disappointed Aldi had no great sale on butter for
    Thanksgiving.  I do see, a week /after/   Thanksgiving they're put their >>> brand of butter on sale for $3.29.  Kroger had theirs priced /before/
    Thanksgiving at $2.99 per pound.

    Half-n-half is $5.79 per half gallon; Aldi has theirs in quart
    containers
    only at $2.95 which makes a half gallon come to $5.90.  I'm not stopping >>> at two stores to save 11₵.  Walmart has them and Kroger beat at
    $5.44 per
    half gallon.
    ;
    Have you switched from artificial creamer?  How else could one even
    begin to use a half gallon of half&half before it went off if they
    weren't using it in coffee? We make lattes with whole milk, so I
    haven't bought half&half in years, and we buy 40% cream and butter at
    one of the foodservice supply stores. I have a friend who has a
    membership at the one that requires one, and he lets me use his card,
    as it's a little cheaper than the one that doesn't require membership,
    and way more selection. Butter is only $2/#, though it doesn't come in
    quarters. Both stores sell 40% cream for $5.49 quart, and you can't
    get proper (40%) whipping cream at Kroger, Whole Foods, or almost
    anywhere these days.
    There's one near you that doesn't require membership, and butter is
    $2.99 there every day.
    Gordon Food Service Store, 317 Bluebird Dr, Goodlettsville, TN 37072

    As I said previously, no on-site butcher for any special cuts of meat.
    Also, as someone said on another group I frequent, no single vegetable
    items such loose onions or bell peppers.  Sometimes a bag of either one >>> is not wanted or needed.

    If I could only shop one store, it wouldn't be ALDI, but I do save
    money buying a lot of things there. I go to one or another grocery
    store more days than not, and often hit Schnuck's, then ALDI on the
    way back. Everything is close. ALDI is one mile. The giant Schnucks
    that has a meat counter is 1.2, and the little Schnuck's that almost
    never has long lines is 1.3. Even the Italian store is only 4.1 miles.
    There's a WalMart a few blocks away that's the only place that carries
    the bread my wife loves. Dierberg's (the other big supermarket here),
    Trader Joe's, World Market and Total Wine all 1.2 miles. Whole Foods,
    1.5 miles, and none of those stores I mentioned require driving on any
    street with a >30 MPH speed limit.

    If one had to live in St. Louis, there's no better place than Richmond
    Heights. Our world class zoo is 2.7 miles. Our world class Botanical
    garden, where we're meeting my wife's parents today is 5 miles.
    Libraries .5, 1.0, 1.7 and 2.4 miles. Rec center .5 miles, and most
    importantly, 1.8 miles from our best friend--my wife's parents.

    I do know that no one here cares about these details, but

    Chef,  You're gonna  shit when you realize you no longer have these wondrous places after you permanently move to old mexico.

    I'm not moving to Mexico. We just want to spend two to two and a half
    months there in the winters, like the first week of Jan thru the second
    week of March. St. Louis averages about 10F colder than Huntsville, and
    I fucking hate cold. It's forecast to get down to 4F on Sunday morning
    and 9F on Monday.

    Mexico City has great food and great museums, and lows in the upper 40s
    with highs in the low to mid 70s sounds really nice right now.>
    At least you'll be able to get excellent tortillas for really cheap dinero.

    What's funny is that there are American fast food places there that are slightly more expensive than they are here (McD's, Popeyes, etc.). Food
    will be more expensive than at home because there will be a lot less
    home cooking, but that's nothing compared to travel and lodging costs.
    Flying would be a lot cheaper, but I hate to fly.

    One cool thing is that quite a few hotels have BBQ grills, and I'm not
    talking AirBnBs, but hotels. Just BYO charcoal and steak. Oh, and good
    quality steak is about the same there as here.
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 10:18:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 11:44 PM, songbird wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year.  I have not bothered to
    drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything.  As you
    say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents?
    Or even a dollar.

    I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items. I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    It's a hobby. I enjoy going through the ads every week. By Wednesday
    noon, I have thoroughly perused the ads for:
    Schnucks 1.3 miles away
    ALDI 1 mile, and on the way to/from Schnucks
    Dierberg's 1.2 miles
    Save-a-Lot A few miles out of our way on the way back from lunch on
    Saturdays, and we only go there if there are great deals.
    Fresh Thyme 11 mile round trip, but sometimes they have great deals on
    super high quality beef and produce. Tomorrow they have CAB chuck roasts
    for $5.99/#, and boneless NY strip steaks for $9.99/#.>
    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    The 2009 Yaris uses about $1 in gas to get to and from the furthest
    store (Fresh Thyme). I buy gas only at Costco or Sam's. We typically
    drive the Yaris because it costs half as much per mile. When it's
    bitterly cold, we drive the Infiniti because it warms up faster and has
    butt warmers. When we need to go on the interstate, we drive the
    Infiniti because it is safer.>
    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...

    Folks like Dave Smith--who don't shop the ads--subsidize my buying
    power. Stores can only afford to discount items because there are plenty
    of wealthy folks and chumps who pay full prices.>
    songbird
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 11 03:59:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 08:26:11 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-12-10 12:35 a.m., songbird wrote:

    genetics seem to play a role. some poor people just cannot
    deal with fats that others can.

    an actual real scientific study could figure this sort of
    thing out but any real funding for such a study is bound to
    be messed with by the various industries and lobbies involved.

    we've had 50+yrs of pretty much wasted time and millions of
    lives screwed up.

    the scientist asks: "Wouldn't this be useful to know?"

    We are indeed all different. My father insisted on cream in his coffee
    and tea and he like whole milk on his cereal. My brothers all loved
    whipped cream and can eat bowls of it. I limit it to a small dab on top
    of a bowl of fruit. My mother did not like cream. She did not even like >butter. My wife loves cream. She likes cream in her coffee and will
    often put whipping cream in it.

    Very interesting, but you forgot your neighbours and your mailman.
    --
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 10:14:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 09:07:38 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/9/2025 11:17 PM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 20:30:01 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/W3nYuRWdwPPn1PxV9
    Disappointingly, the beef ended up med well rather than medium. The
    cheesy spinach was sublime.

    This is where if you use cheap meat you fight muscled meat.

    It wasn't the tenderness, but the flavor. It was going to be tough
    either way. It's chuck. Tomorrow, the local Fresh Thyme will have
    $5.99/# chuck roasts. I bought the chuck for pot roast, but cut a
    little off as the side dish to the cheesy spinach.>

    Might try it deshebrada style next time.

    Try a skirt steak or flatiron - not a lot more than your roasts per
    lb. frankly.

    It's WAY more, at least in St. Louis. Regular supermarkets don't even
    sell those.

    That's a regional debit for sure!

    You have to go to the Mexican carniceria or an expensive
    butcher shop.


    Hard to think a Mexican butcher would be spendy.

    https://www.yelp.com/biz/carniceria-latino-americana-saint-louis?osq=Skirt+Steak

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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 10:15:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 09:34:35 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    One cool thing is that quite a few hotels have BBQ grills, and I'm
    not talking AirBnBs, but hotels. Just BYO charcoal and steak.

    That is unique, never knew that.

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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 11:49:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/10/2025 2:25 AM, Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:44:31 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
    wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-12-09 5:40 p.m., jmquown wrote:

    An Aldi opened in Beaufort earlier this year.  I have not bothered to >>>> drive all the way over there to check out prices on anything.  As you >>>> say, why drive out of the way to Aldis to possibly save save 11 cents? >>>> Or even a dollar.

    It's ALDI, not "Aldis." Were you raised in a goat barn? Most of the
    places I shop are less than a mile and a half away. I'm sure I average
    at least $25 a week by careful shopping. Over 40 years, that would be
    $52K. My final 12 months at the church, adjusted for inflation, would
    come to about that. So, maybe I got to retire at 61 instead of 62
    because I was a frugal shopper. That's not nuthin.

    That new ALDI is 6.5 miles farther than your nearest Publix. Don't you
    go into Beaufort anyway for other things? You're sewn up tighter than a catcher's mitt. Look at what came out today in the ALDI ad: https://photos.app.goo.gl/11T2v2xYbtnbTqAU6
    And standing rib roasts only $7.99/#.

    I'll be roasting that tenderloin for Christmas, and my m-i-l is paying
    for it. Educate yourself.
    https://www.aldi.us/weekly-specials/weekly-ads>>>>
    I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items. I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...

    Bingo.

    So which is worse, my frugality or Dave's *Daveyness*?
    --
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    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 17:55:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 12/9/2025 9:48 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    I did not develop a taste for coffee until my late 30's. And I certainly wasn't allowed to drink it as a child even if they diluted with 90% milk.

    I think I had coffee for the first time when I was 5 or 6. I don't know
    why a parent would forbid coffee. Heck, iced tea and even Coke have caffeine. I didn't drink a lot at a time.

    Most little kids have a lot of energy and giving them coffee, coke, or
    even tea can have them so wired they're impossible to deal with. Sugar
    can have the same effect and that's why parents limit their child's
    intact on either.

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened.
    The cheesy spinach was sublime. We'd eat it more often, but eating too
    much spinach is unhealthful because of the oxalic acid.

    You can eat it daily unless you have specific health conditions. It can interfere with certain medications, too.

    Not in the quantities I eat it in. I don't like it raw. Yesterday I made about 3 pounds for the two of us. That's easily at least twenty times
    the spinach that might be in a green salad.

    Well yes, that's quite a bit to eat. I like it in salads, even just to
    munch on and of course in scrambled eggs with a bit grated parmesan.

    ~
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 12:03:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 5:46 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 12/9/2025 6:20 PM, jmquown wrote:
    On 12/9/2025 6:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

      I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife >>> used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list
    of the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then
    they would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items.  I
    hate to imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much
    extra they spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    That's the way I look at it, Dave.  Why waste gasoline driving all
    over town to all different stores to save a few bucks?  It doesn't
    save money.  I will not spend all day grocery shopping.  Someone else
    mentioned (maybe Ed) you have to pay a deposit for a shopping cart and
    get your money back when you return it.  Uh, no.  I always return the
    free shopping cart (and don't always need one, sometimes just a hand
    held basket) where it belongs when I exit the store.

    Jill

    I can save 10 cents a gallon on gas if I go to BJs.  It is a 32 mile
    round trip.  I'd burn $2.15 in gas to save about $1.30.

    Dave's friend may save a few pennies if the stores are located close
    enough but I'm not willing to spend a lot of time to save 10 cents on a
    can of beans.  Sure, I check out the BOGO sales, but I'm going to be
    there for something anyway so stock up on some favorites.  If not a favorite and don't need two, I donate the freebie.
    ALDI has USDA Choice tenderloins for $10.99/#, and standing rib roasts
    for $7.99. They also have Frenched rack of lamb for $9.99/#. These will
    all go very fast. I got a tenderloin for Christmas lunch. https://photos.app.goo.gl/McdtP1y5wkY4oi2g7
    --
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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 11 05:32:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 11:49:05 -0600, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/10/2025 2:25 AM, Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:44:31 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
    wrote:

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...

    Bingo.

    So which is worse, my frugality or Dave's *Daveyness*?

    1. Your nastiness
    2. Dave's Daveyness
    --
    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 11:33:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 11:49:05 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    You're sewn up tighter than a
    catcher's mitt.

    ROTFLMAO!

    +1

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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 11:38:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:32:22 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 11:49:05 -0600, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/10/2025 2:25 AM, Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:44:31 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
    wrote:

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...

    Bingo.

    So which is worse, my frugality or Dave's *Daveyness*?

    1. Your nastiness
    2. Dave's Daveyness


    Where do these rank with your haughty arrogance and
    political intolerance?

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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 14:13:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/10/2025 12:49 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    It's ALDI, not "Aldis."

    But it could be ALDI's
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 19:49:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 12/10/2025 12:49 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    It's ALDI, not "Aldis."

    But it could be ALDI's

    👍 Correct.

    ~
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 14:36:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/10/2025 11:14 AM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 09:07:38 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/9/2025 11:17 PM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 20:30:01 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/W3nYuRWdwPPn1PxV9
    Disappointingly, the beef ended up med well rather than medium. The
    cheesy spinach was sublime.

    This is where if you use cheap meat you fight muscled meat.
    >
    It wasn't the tenderness, but the flavor. It was going to be tough
    either way. It's chuck. Tomorrow, the local Fresh Thyme will have
    $5.99/# chuck roasts. I bought the chuck for pot roast, but cut a
    little off as the side dish to the cheesy spinach.>

    Might try it deshebrada style next time.

    Try a skirt steak or flatiron - not a lot more than your roasts per
    lb. frankly.

    It's WAY more, at least in St. Louis. Regular supermarkets don't even
    sell those.

    That's a regional debit for sure!

    You have to go to the Mexican carniceria or an expensive
    butcher shop.


    Hard to think a Mexican butcher would be spendy.

    https://www.yelp.com/biz/carniceria-latino-americana-saint-louis?osq=Skirt+Steak

    Supply and demand. Mexicans are very into skirt and hanger, so probably flatiron too. You know something you can get in STL that is uncommon
    most other places? Snoots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZMTs3jSrk https://www.bigmamasbbq.net/menus/#grill-favorites
    One of these days I'm going to have to try me some pig snoots. We've
    driven over to East St. Louis (yeah, THAT East St. Louis) several times
    to get takeout from Big Mama's. They be cheaper than the same thing on
    this side of the river.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 14:37:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/10/2025 12:38 PM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:32:22 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 11:49:05 -0600, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/10/2025 2:25 AM, Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:44:31 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
    wrote:

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...

    Bingo.

    So which is worse, my frugality or Dave's *Daveyness*?

    1. Your nastiness
    2. Dave's Daveyness


    Where do these rank with your haughty arrogance and
    political intolerance?

    Political intolerance for fascists? Very high.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 14:38:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/10/2025 1:13 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 12/10/2025 12:49 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    It's ALDI, not "Aldis."

    But it could be ALDI's

    As an adjective.
    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 13:45:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 14:36:03 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/10/2025 11:14 AM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 09:07:38 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/9/2025 11:17 PM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 20:30:01 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    The beef and cheesy spinach thing happened.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/W3nYuRWdwPPn1PxV9
    Disappointingly, the beef ended up med well rather than medium.
    The cheesy spinach was sublime.

    This is where if you use cheap meat you fight muscled meat.
    >
    It wasn't the tenderness, but the flavor. It was going to be tough
    either way. It's chuck. Tomorrow, the local Fresh Thyme will have
    $5.99/# chuck roasts. I bought the chuck for pot roast, but cut a
    little off as the side dish to the cheesy spinach.>

    Might try it deshebrada style next time.

    Try a skirt steak or flatiron - not a lot more than your roasts
    per lb. frankly.

    It's WAY more, at least in St. Louis. Regular supermarkets don't
    even sell those.

    That's a regional debit for sure!

    You have to go to the Mexican carniceria or an expensive
    butcher shop.


    Hard to think a Mexican butcher would be spendy.

    https://www.yelp.com/biz/carniceria-latino-americana-saint-louis?osq=Skirt+Steak

    Supply and demand. Mexicans are very into skirt and hanger, so
    probably flatiron too. You know something you can get in STL that is
    uncommon most other places? Snoots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZMTs3jSrk
    Heck yes!
    Wal Mart has those too in certain markets: https://www.facebook.com/groups/appalachianfoods/posts/4127752917458052/
    Render the head in water with celery, onions, and carrots. Add your preference of herbs in a sachet so they can be easily removed later. At the very least tie them in butchers twine. Add in your spices. Bay leaf will help as well. I Add 5 to everything so I always remember I have to pull out 5. From there let it go until all the meat is falling off the head. Pull the heads, pull the herbs, pull the bay leaves. Set aside you no longer need any of these as the meat should have fell of the head entirely. Anything left on the head will likely be too tough to be the proper texture but use your judgment.
    From there drain the liquid. You can keep it for stock if you prefer to do so but I never have.
    Now this is the part where people disagree.
    Rough chop the meat and veggies like chopping BBQ. Throw it in bread pans like you're making a loaf. Pack the absolute shit out of it. I've seen people continue to bake these from here. I DO NOT BAKE THEM. The meat is cooked and it's nice and gelatinous giving a cheese texture already.
    I let them cool down and set in the pan like pudding. Come back later, run a spatula or butter knife along the edges, flip drop the pan to get the head cheese out. Cut it into slices then grill the slices like you're making a grilled cheese just until you have color on both sides.
    Eazy Peezy https://www.facebook.com/Walmart5898/photos/a.632956466730879/3168042256555608/ .78c/lb is crazy cheap!
    Lotsa meat on those hog heads too.
    https://www.bigmamasbbq.net/menus/#grill-favorites One of these days
    I'm going to have to try me some pig snoots. We've driven over to
    East St. Louis (yeah, THAT East St. Louis) several times to get
    takeout from Big Mama's. They be cheaper than the same thing on this
    side of the river.

    Take pics please!
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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 13:46:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 14:37:00 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/10/2025 12:38 PM, Dr. Rocktor wrote:
    On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:32:22 +1100
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 11:49:05 -0600, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/10/2025 2:25 AM, Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:44:31 -0500, songbird
    <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

    can't you imagine though that if they are tight enough
    to do all the work of going through the flyers they also
    are doing the math for mileage and also checking gas prices?

    you don't really understand others nearly as much as you
    think you do...

    Bingo.

    So which is worse, my frugality or Dave's *Daveyness*?

    1. Your nastiness
    2. Dave's Daveyness


    Where do these rank with your haughty arrogance and
    political intolerance?

    Political intolerance for fascists? Very high.


    Answering for Bwuce now?

    But yes, no tolerance for Ketanji da fascist on this end.

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  • From Mike Duffy@mxduffy@bell.net to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 20:49:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    On 12/9/2025 11:40 PM, songbird wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:

    You guys gross me out. [...] Gag gag,

    I wouldn't mind you being gagged for a while.

    Gentemen! I could not tell who grossed out who
    because it was all in prior messages recklessly
    deleted, but now I bring something more important.

    In the future, aliens (Canadians too apparently)
    may need to show a 5 year social media history
    in order to get certain visas.

    For me, that means here, because the only other
    Internet presence I had was Facebook to watch what
    my teen-age girl was up to. I only ever 'friended'
    her and stopped signing on when Facebook started
    suggesting to me dozens of teen-age girls.

    So now, I need some references from here,
    especially Americans. I suppose that means
    Hawaiians too.

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  • From Mike Duffy@mxduffy@bell.net to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 21:01:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2025-12-10, Ed P wrote:

    Gas? Yes, that is a part of it, but
    [...] There are three active
    and four passive cost factors.

    Do you think they are adding them too?

    Active: Gas, oil, tires, engine & Body wear & tear,
    Passive: Corrosion, plastic & fabric disintegration.

    But you ignore also probabalistic costs. Even if you have
    insurance, that goes up with fire / theft / floods &c.
    Or is this one your 'passive' costs?

    And what about people going crazy/stupid &c? (Speed/Phone &c)

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  • From Dr. Rocktor@drr@in.valid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 14:16:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 10 Dec 2025 20:49:24 GMT
    Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:

    On 2025-12-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    On 12/9/2025 11:40 PM, songbird wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:

    You guys gross me out. [...] Gag gag,

    I wouldn't mind you being gagged for a while.

    Gentemen! I could not tell who grossed out who
    because it was all in prior messages recklessly
    deleted, but now I bring something more important.

    In the future, aliens (Canadians too apparently)
    may need to show a 5 year social media history
    in order to get certain visas.

    Yeah, Carney has been a real Turdumb barker hasn't he?

    For me, that means here, because the only other
    Internet presence I had was Facebook to watch what
    my teen-age girl was up to. I only ever 'friended'
    her and stopped signing on when Facebook started
    suggesting to me dozens of teen-age girls.

    So now, I need some references from here,
    especially Americans. I suppose that means
    Hawaiians too.

    I approve your right to move about the planet, that work?

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  • From Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Dec 11 08:20:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 14:38:12 -0600, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/10/2025 1:13 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 12/10/2025 12:49 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    It's ALDI, not "Aldis."

    But it could be ALDI's

    As an adjective.

    A possessive.
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    Bruce <https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-681946574-20250717233334800.jpg>
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 17:34:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/10/2025 4:01 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-12-10, Ed P wrote:

    Gas? Yes, that is a part of it, but
    [...] There are three active
    and four passive cost factors.

    Do you think they are adding them too?

    Active: Gas, oil, tires, engine & Body wear & tear,
    Passive: Corrosion, plastic & fabric disintegration.

    But you ignore also probabalistic costs. Even if you have
    insurance, that goes up with fire / theft / floods &c.
    Or is this one your 'passive' costs?

    And what about people going crazy/stupid &c? (Speed/Phone &c)


    I made a spreadsheet. Every time I go out, I put in the estimated miles
    so I know the cost of the trip. I find it considerably cheaper by going
    to the Post Office after the gas station. Saves me about $1.36 a year
    that way.
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 16:58:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 12/9/2025 7:35 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 18:20:56 -0500, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 12/9/2025 6:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

     I used to work with a guy who was incredibly cheap. He and his wife
    used to check out the flyers every week and make up a shopping list of
    the items that we one sale at all the local grocery stores. Then they
    would go to each of those stores any buy those sale items.  I hate to
    imagine how much time they spend doing that and how much extra they
    spend on gas to go to all those different stores.

    That's the way I look at it, Dave. Why waste gasoline driving all over
    town to all different stores to save a few bucks? It doesn't save
    money. I will not spend all day grocery shopping. Someone else
    mentioned (maybe Ed) you have to pay a deposit for a shopping cart and
    get your money back when you return it. Uh, no. I always return the
    free shopping cart (and don't always need one, sometimes just a hand
    held basket) where it belongs when I exit the store.

    Here, at ALDI, you need a one or two dollar coin (or a dedicated ALDI
    coin) to use a shopping cart. You get the coin back when you return
    the cart, what every half-decent person does anyway. To call that a
    "deposit" is extremely dramatic :)

    Here it's still a quarter, which would be 37 Australian cents. A lot of
    folks don't even bother to get their quarter back. I'm too, "A penny
    saved is a penny got," for that.

    *****
    Winter announced, “I have to get this one home. She has an early, early class tomorrow. She's like Benjamin Franklin.”
    .
    “A womanizer?” asked Richard.
    .
    “No, Dad, a person of science who understands the value of a good
    night's sleep.”
    *****
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Dec 10 19:31:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Bryan Simmons wrote on 12/10/2025 4:58 PM:
    *****
    Winter announced, “I have to get this one home. She has an early,
    early class tomorrow. She's like Benjamin Franklin.”
    .
    “A womanizer?” asked Richard.
    .
    “No, Dad, a person of science who understands the value of a good
    night's sleep.”
    *****

    Thanks. That's one of my favorite winter episodes! They never get old.

    I can't wait for your next book, but I know it's a tough job to produce
    a masterpiece.

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