I was procrastinating with the Christmas shortbread and time was running out. I had two reasons to get at it today. First of all, the weather is crappy. It is sitting at freezing and getting snow and rain. Not a good
day to be out and about. I also had to hang out for the satellite TV
tech. They had told me they were be here some time between 8am and 5pm.
As it turned out, they showed up at 10:15 and were finished by 10:45.
The first batch was ready to go into the oven. That tray has come out
and now tray number 2 is in. In a few minutes I will move that first one from the tray and put then in a rack. The first batch looks great. Now
it is time to roll and cut the second batch of dough.
I was procrastinating with the Christmas shortbread and time was running out. I had two reasons to get at it today. First of all, the weather is crappy. It is sitting at freezing and getting snow and rain. Not a good
day to be out and about. I also had to hang out for the satellite TV
tech. They had told me they were *be here some time between 8am and 5pm.*
As it turned out, they showed up at 10:15 and were finished by 10:45.
The first batch was ready to go into the oven. That tray has come out
and now tray number 2 is in. In a few minutes I will move that first one from the tray and put then in a rack. The first batch looks great. Now
it is time to roll and cut the second batch of dough.
The first batch was ready to go into the oven. That tray has come out
and now tray number 2 is in. In a few minutes I will move that first one
from the tray and put then in a rack. The first batch looks great. Now
it is time to roll and cut the second batch of dough.
I've not really made up my mind yet, but I may limit my Christmas baking
to a rum cake.
I was procrastinating with the Christmas shortbread and time was running out. I had two reasons to get at it today. First of all, the weather is crappy. It is sitting at freezing and getting snow and rain. Not a good
day to be out and about. I also had to hang out for the satellite TV
tech. They had told me they were be here some time between 8am and 5pm.
As it turned out, they showed up at 10:15 and were finished by 10:45.
The first batch was ready to go into the oven. That tray has come out
and now tray number 2 is in. In a few minutes I will move that first one from the tray and put then in a rack. The first batch looks great. Now
it is time to roll and cut the second batch of dough.
On 2025-12-10 12:43 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
The first batch was ready to go into the oven. That tray has come out
and now tray number 2 is in. In a few minutes I will move that first one >>> from the tray and put then in a rack. The first batch looks great. Now
it is time to roll and cut the second batch of dough.
I've not really made up my mind yet, but I may limit my Christmas baking
to a rum cake.
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a couple batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some brownies
and a few other things. I am cutting back this year because my son has celiac disease and my wife is allergic to flour and I don't want to
have to eat up a ton of fattening food.
I was procrastinating with the Christmas shortbread and time was running out. I had two reasons to get at it today. First of all, the weather is crappy. It is sitting at freezing and getting snow and rain. Not a good
day to be out and about.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
I was procrastinating with the Christmas shortbread and time was running
out. I had two reasons to get at it today. First of all, the weather is
crappy. It is sitting at freezing and getting snow and rain. Not a good
day to be out and about. I also had to hang out for the satellite TV
tech. They had told me they were *be here some time between 8am and 5pm.* >> As it turned out, they showed up at 10:15 and were finished by 10:45.
Don't you love those windows of service they give you?
So, what was wrong with that particular receiver?
The first batch was ready to go into the oven. That tray has come out
and now tray number 2 is in. In a few minutes I will move that first one
from the tray and put then in a rack. The first batch looks great. Now
it is time to roll and cut the second batch of dough.
I've not really made up my mind yet, but I may limit my Christmas baking
to a rum cake.
On 2025-12-10 12:43 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
The first batch was ready to go into the oven. That tray has come out
and now tray number 2 is in. In a few minutes I will move that first one >>> from the tray and put then in a rack. The first batch looks great. Now
it is time to roll and cut the second batch of dough.
I've not really made up my mind yet, but I may limit my Christmas baking
to a rum cake.
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:28:51 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-10 12:43 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
The first batch was ready to go into the oven. That tray has come
out and now tray number 2 is in. In a few minutes I will move
that first one from the tray and put then in a rack. The first
batch looks great. Now it is time to roll and cut the second
batch of dough.
I've not really made up my mind yet, but I may limit my Christmas
baking to a rum cake.
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away
We know, you've been on repeat for years. There should be a list of
banned topics for you. It would include lactose intolerance, living in
a fruit belt, what happened to a "friend" half a century ago, nut intolerance, how your entire family feels about food item X, Christmas
cake and a couple more.
On 2025-12-10 12:43 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I've not really made up my mind yet, but I may limit my Christmas baking
to a rum cake.
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a couple batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some brownies
and a few other things. I am cutting back this year because my son has celiac disease and my wife is allergic to flour and I don't want to
have to eat up a ton of fattening food.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 06:21:17 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:28:51 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away
We know, you've been on repeat for years. There should be a list of
banned topics for you.
That damned fruit cake reverie is as old as walnut shell snow tires.
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:28:51 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
There should be a list of banned topics for you.
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 06:21:17 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:28:51 -0500, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away
We know, you've been on repeat for years. There should be a list
of banned topics for you.
That damned fruit cake reverie is as old as walnut shell snow
tires.
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only kind I
make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
~
On 2025-12-10, Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:28:51 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
There should be a list of banned topics for you.
Like vegetarian? I bought some of those plantain bananas
and found that they tended to dry out in the air fryer
before the starch cooks enough not to taste mealy.
So right now, I chopped one up and to do my part
in energy coservation, I pallelogrammed a butternut
gourd that had been hanging about my kitchen too long.
I mixed the pieces together (with butter, naturally),
covered in a 'convection' oven 325F in a covered
~ 8 cm * 15 cm pan and plan to repeatadly
stir things up for the next hour or so.
Like vegetarian? I bought some of those plantain bananas
and found that they tended to dry out in the air fryer
before the starch cooks enough not to taste mealy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SmAlxc7_88
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 06:21:17 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:28:51 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away
We know, you've been on repeat for years. There should be a list of
banned topics for you.
That damned fruit cake reverie is as old as walnut shell snow tires.
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only kind I
make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
On 12/10/2025 1:58 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
Like vegetarian? I bought some of those plantain bananas
and found that they tended to dry out in the air fryer
before the starch cooks enough not to taste mealy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SmAlxc7_88
You bought the wrong bananas.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a couple
batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some brownies
and a few other things. I am cutting back this year because my son has
celiac disease and my wife is allergic to flour and I don't want to
have to eat up a ton of fattening food.
Hmmmmmmm, I've got some jars of None Such mincemeat and I might have to
make a pie. I /love/ the stuff.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:I've never had mincemeat pie or mincemeat tarts; I've never tasted it.
On 2025-12-10 12:43 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I've not really made up my mind yet, but I may limit my Christmas baking >>> to a rum cake.
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a couple
batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some brownies
and a few other things. I am cutting back this year because my son has
celiac disease and my wife is allergic to flour and I don't want to
have to eat up a ton of fattening food.
Hmmmmmmm, I've got some jars of None Such mincemeat and I might have to
make a pie. I /love/ the stuff.
~
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 19:43:01 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 06:21:17 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:28:51 -0500, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away
We know, you've been on repeat for years. There should be a list
of banned topics for you.
That damned fruit cake reverie is as old as walnut shell snow
tires.
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only kind I
make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
Are you going to trot it out each holiday season and tribute it?
An do you have decent snow tires?
On 12/10/2025 2:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a couple
batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some brownies >> and a few other things.
Hmmmmmmm, I've got some jars of None Such mincemeat and I might have to make a pie. I /love/ the stuff.
I've never had mincemeat pie or mincemeat tarts; I've never tasted it.
I remember my mother had a jar of it in the cabinet when I was a
teenager but I don't recall her ever making anything with it.
Jill
On 2025-12-10 2:40 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a couple
batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some brownies >>> and a few other things. I am cutting back this year because my son has
celiac disease and my wife is allergic to flour and I don't want to
have to eat up a ton of fattening food.
Hmmmmmmm, I've got some jars of None Such mincemeat and I might have to
make a pie. I /love/ the stuff.
Mincemeat is sort of like fruitcake and lamb in the way that people
either love it or hate it.
On 2025-12-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Mincemeat is sort of like fruitcake and lamb in the way that people
either love it or hate it.
I can barely remember what it was like. My recollection is that
it was tooth-achingly sweet.
On 2025-12-10 5:38 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Mincemeat is sort of like fruitcake and lamb in the way that people
either love it or hate it.
I can barely remember what it was like. My recollection is that
it was tooth-achingly sweet.
I would not call it tooth-achingly sweet. I would call it rich. I don't think there us much sugar added. The sweetness is from the dried fruits.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/10/2025 2:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I've never had mincemeat pie or mincemeat tarts; I've never tasted it.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a couple >>>> batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some brownies >>>> and a few other things.
Hmmmmmmm, I've got some jars of None Such mincemeat and I might have to
make a pie. I /love/ the stuff.
I remember my mother had a jar of it in the cabinet when I was a
teenager but I don't recall her ever making anything with it.
Jill
If someone ever offers you a slice of pie or a tart, try it. It's
got cinnamon, ginger, cloves, all spice, and nutmeg as its' spices.
Spicy but in a good way. Great warm with a scoop of vanilla ice
cream or completely cooled and eaten at room temperature.
~
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
If someone ever offers you a slice of pie or a tart, try it. It's
got cinnamon, ginger, cloves, all spice, and nutmeg as its' spices.
Spicy but in a good way. Great warm with a scoop of vanilla ice
cream or completely cooled and eaten at room temperature.
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that sometimes.
A friend or family member would suggest something to her and she'd buy
the ingredients but then never followed through. She had good
intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have no idea
what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that sometimes.
A friend or family member would suggest something to her and she'd buy
the ingredients but then never followed through. She had good
intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have no idea
what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/10/2025 2:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I've never had mincemeat pie or mincemeat tarts; I've never tasted it.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a
couple
batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some
brownies
and a few other things.
Hmmmmmmm, I've got some jars of None Such mincemeat and I might have to >>>> make a pie. I /love/ the stuff.
I remember my mother had a jar of it in the cabinet when I was a
teenager but I don't recall her ever making anything with it.
Jill
If someone ever offers you a slice of pie or a tart, try it. It's
got cinnamon, ginger, cloves, all spice, and nutmeg as its' spices.
Spicy but in a good way. Great warm with a scoop of vanilla ice
cream or completely cooled and eaten at room temperature.
~
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that sometimes.
A friend or family member would suggest something to her and she'd buy
the ingredients but then never followed through. She had good
intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have no idea
what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Jill
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that sometimes.
A friend or family member would suggest something to her and she'd buy
the ingredients but then never followed through. She had good
intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have no idea
what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas
time. I love the stuff. However..... I would suggest to have it in small >doses. I have seen different sizes of tarts and would recommend the
medium size because they is more mincemeat in them than in the small
ones, but the large ones might be too much. My mother's standard New
Years Day dessert was mincemeat pie. You should take only a small slice
at a time.
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that
sometimes. A friend or family member would suggest something to her
and she'd buy the ingredients but then never followed through. She
had good intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have
no idea what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas
time. I love the stuff. However..... I would suggest to have it in small doses. I have seen different sizes of tarts and would recommend the
medium size because they is more mincemeat in them than in the small
ones, but the large ones might be too much. My mother's standard New
Years Day dessert was mincemeat pie. You should take only a small slice
at a time.
On 2025-12-10 5:38 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Mincemeat is sort of like fruitcake and lamb in the way that people
either love it or hate it.
I can barely remember what it was like. My recollection is that
it was tooth-achingly sweet.
I would not call it tooth-achingly sweet. I would call it rich.
I don't
think there us much sugar added. The sweetness is from the dried fruits.
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 19:20:21 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that sometimes. >>> A friend or family member would suggest something to her and she'd buy
the ingredients but then never followed through. She had good
intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have no idea
what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas >>time. I love the stuff. However..... I would suggest to have it in small >>doses. I have seen different sizes of tarts and would recommend the
medium size because they is more mincemeat in them than in the small
ones, but the large ones might be too much. My mother's standard New
Years Day dessert was mincemeat pie. You should take only a small slice >>at a time.
Didn't you just say a medium size is best because a small one has less mincemeat and a large one might be too much?
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that sometimes.
A friend or family member would suggest something to her and she'd buy
the ingredients but then never followed through. She had good
intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have no idea
what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas
time.
On 2025-12-11, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 19:20:21 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that sometimes. >>>> A friend or family member would suggest something to her and she'd buy >>>> the ingredients but then never followed through. She had good
intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have no idea >>>> what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas >>>time. I love the stuff. However..... I would suggest to have it in small >>>doses. I have seen different sizes of tarts and would recommend the >>>medium size because they is more mincemeat in them than in the small >>>ones, but the large ones might be too much. My mother's standard New >>>Years Day dessert was mincemeat pie. You should take only a small slice >>>at a time.
Didn't you just say a medium size is best because a small one has less
mincemeat and a large one might be too much?
A smaller pie has a greater crust-to-filling ratio.
jmquown wrote on 12/10/2025 6:02 PM:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpqbIb1pSXI
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/10/2025 2:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I've never had mincemeat pie or mincemeat tarts; I've never tasted it. >>>> I remember my mother had a jar of it in the cabinet when I was a
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away, a
couple
batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts, some
brownies
and a few other things.
Hmmmmmmm, I've got some jars of None Such mincemeat and I might
have to
make a pie. I /love/ the stuff.
teenager but I don't recall her ever making anything with it.
Jill
If someone ever offers you a slice of pie or a tart, try it. It's
got cinnamon, ginger, cloves, all spice, and nutmeg as its' spices.
Spicy but in a good way. Great warm with a scoop of vanilla ice
cream or completely cooled and eaten at room temperature.
~
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that
sometimes. A friend or family member would suggest something to her
and she'd buy the ingredients but then never followed through. She
had good intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have
no idea what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Jill
Your Majesty will always hate your mother because of her shortcomings.
On 2025-12-10 5:20 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at ChristmasPeople make them every xmas and guests will eat one to remind
time. I love the stuff. However..... I would suggest to have it in
small doses. I have seen different sizes of tarts and would recommend
the medium size because they is more mincemeat in them than in the
small ones, but the large ones might be too much. My mother's standard
New Years Day dessert was mincemeat pie. You should take only a small
slice at a time.
themselves that they really don't like them.
However, one year when the kids were young, I made 6 dozen
mince pies. They were consumed by my sons within 3 days.
The next year I made the same number and a week later
there were still 6 dozen in the tin.
On 2025-12-11, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas
time. I love the stuff. However..... I would suggest to have it in small >>> doses. I have seen different sizes of tarts and would recommend the
medium size because they is more mincemeat in them than in the small
ones, but the large ones might be too much. My mother's standard New
Years Day dessert was mincemeat pie. You should take only a small slice >>> at a time.
Didn't you just say a medium size is best because a small one has less
mincemeat and a large one might be too much?
A smaller pie has a greater crust-to-filling ratio.
On 2025-12-11, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas
time.
I guess we're just insufficiently British down here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/k9dad5/what_do_americans_have_for_christmas_dessert/
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 19:43:01 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 06:21:17 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:28:51 -0500, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given
away
We know, you've been on repeat for years. There should be a
list of banned topics for you.
That damned fruit cake reverie is as old as walnut shell snow
tires.
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only
kind I make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
Are you going to trot it out each holiday season and tribute it?
Not if I take this one out and douse it with liquor. It's been in
my freezer for about a hundred years.
An do you have decent snow tires?
I don't have any snow tires at all, just regular Michelin's on
old Abe.
When we hear there's snow in Kentucky but none here, we just drive
off into the ditches. It's just a Southern thang we can't help,
it's in our genes.
~
On 2025-12-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-10 5:38 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-12-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Mincemeat is sort of like fruitcake and lamb in the way that
people either love it or hate it.
I can barely remember what it was like. My recollection is that
it was tooth-achingly sweet.
I would not call it tooth-achingly sweet. I would call it rich.
To me, rich = fatty, not sweet.
I don't
think there us much sugar added. The sweetness is from the dried
fruits.
There doesn't need to be much sugar added for dried fruit to taste
sweet.
Let's ask Delia Smith:
1 lb apples
2 oz almonds
4 teaspoons mixed ground spice
1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4 teaspoon nutmeg
6 tablespoons brandy
8 oz shredded suet
12 oz raisins
8 oz sultanas
8 oz currants
8 oz whole mixed candied peel
12 oz dark brown sugar
grated zest and juice 2 oranges
grated zest and juice 2 lemons
There's a lot of sugar in there.
Don't forget, when I make fruitcake, I don't use candied fruit
because it's too sweet. I use dried fruit.
On 2025-12-11, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that
sometimes. A friend or family member would suggest something to
her and she'd buy the ingredients but then never followed through.
She had good intentions but really did not like baking or
cooking. I have no idea what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at
Christmas time.
I guess we're just insufficiently British down here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/k9dad5/what_do_americans_have_for_christmas_dessert/
On 12/10/2025 6:53 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
jmquown wrote on 12/10/2025 6:02 PM:
On 12/10/2025 5:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 12/10/2025 2:40 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I've never had mincemeat pie or mincemeat tarts; I've never
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
I generally make light fruitcake, most of which is given away,
a couple
batches of shortbread, a coupe batches of mincemeat tarts,
some brownies
and a few other things.
Hmmmmmmm, I've got some jars of None Such mincemeat and I might
have to
make a pie. I /love/ the stuff.
tasted it. I remember my mother had a jar of it in the cabinet
when I was a teenager but I don't recall her ever making
anything with it.
Jill
If someone ever offers you a slice of pie or a tart, try it. It's
got cinnamon, ginger, cloves, all spice, and nutmeg as its'
spices. Spicy but in a good way. Great warm with a scoop of
vanilla ice cream or completely cooled and eaten at room
temperature.
~
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that
sometimes. A friend or family member would suggest something to
her and she'd buy the ingredients but then never followed through.
She had good intentions but really did not like baking or
cooking. I have no idea what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Jill
Your Majesty will always hate your mother because of herhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpqbIb1pSXI
shortcomings.
I just discovered I have more English blood than I had thought.
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 22:14:53 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only
kind I make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
Are you going to trot it out each holiday season and tribute it?
Not if I take this one out and douse it with liquor. It's been in
my freezer for about a hundred years.
<shudder>
Might take some good cognac to make that safe.
And do you have decent snow tires?
I don't have any snow tires at all, just regular Michelin's on
old Abe.
Well walnut shell Toyos are the way to go.
When we hear there's snow in Kentucky but none here, we just driveI've seen the horror of Okies let loose on intermountain roads in the
off into the ditches. It's just a Southern thang we can't help,
it's in our genes.
West, it ain't purty...
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 22:14:53 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only
kind I make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
Are you going to trot it out each holiday season and tribute
it?
Not if I take this one out and douse it with liquor. It's been in
my freezer for about a hundred years.
<shudder>
Might take some good cognac to make that safe.
It's been in the upright freezer since Adam was a lad. What is it
you don't get about frozen food being safe to eat? Especially since
it already has some liquor in it.
And do you have decent snow tires?
I don't have any snow tires at all, just regular Michelin's on
old Abe.
Well walnut shell Toyos are the way to go.
When we hear there's snow in Kentucky but none here, we justI've seen the horror of Okies let loose on intermountain roads in
drive off into the ditches. It's just a Southern thang we can't
help, it's in our genes.
the West, it ain't purty...
There's nothing pressing for me to out playing bumper cars when the
roads are slick. I just stay home and let everyone else crash into
each other.
~
I've seen the horror of Okies let loose on intermountain roads in the
West, it ain't purty...
There's nothing pressing for me to out playing bumper cars when the
roads are slick. I just stay home and let everyone else crash into
each other.
It was a good laugh to see a big SUV with AWD go flying by and then
see them off the road a couple of miles up.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 18:22:26 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 22:14:53 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only
kind I make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
Are you going to trot it out each holiday season and tribute
it?
Not if I take this one out and douse it with liquor. It's been in
my freezer for about a hundred years.
<shudder>
Might take some good cognac to make that safe.
It's been in the upright freezer since Adam was a lad. What is it
you don't get about frozen food being safe to eat? Especially since
it already has some liquor in it.
It's a fruit cake, I view those with suspicion even when fresh.
I've seen the horror of Okies let loose on intermountain roads inAnd do you have decent snow tires?
the West, it ain't purty...
There's nothing pressing for me to out playing bumper cars when the
roads are slick. I just stay home and let everyone else crash into
each other.
Sound thinking.
You do get ice storms though, yes?
Winter tires are cheap insurance for emergencies.
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 18:22:26 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 22:14:53 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
wrote:
"Dr. Rocktor" <drr@in.valid> posted:
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the
only kind I make when I do bake one. Am I banned as
well???
Are you going to trot it out each holiday season and tribute
it?
Not if I take this one out and douse it with liquor. It's
been in my freezer for about a hundred years.
<shudder>
Might take some good cognac to make that safe.
It's been in the upright freezer since Adam was a lad. What is it
you don't get about frozen food being safe to eat? Especially
since it already has some liquor in it.
It's a fruit cake, I view those with suspicion even when fresh.
There are some great homemade fruitcakes and then there are some
simply awful homemade fruitcakes whether fresh or aged. Same goes
for commercially made fruitcakes. A very good one to consider are
the ones from Collins Street Bakery out of Texas.
I've seen the horror of Okies let loose on intermountain roadsAnd do you have decent snow tires?
in the West, it ain't purty...
There's nothing pressing for me to out playing bumper cars whenSound thinking.
the roads are slick. I just stay home and let everyone else
crash into each other.
You do get ice storms though, yes?
Yes, and I stay home when those strike just like I do for snow.
What worries me the most about ice storms is bringing down power
lines. No lights, no TV, no refrigerator, and no heat even though
I do have gas heat. Furnace doesn't work because of the electronic
ignition to turn on the heat. Same for my kitchen stove, but I
can use a bbq lighter to light a burner.
Emergencies was the modifier.Winter tires are cheap insurance for emergencies.
I solve that problem by staying off the streets.
~
On 12/11/2025 1:22 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
CT was very good clearing the roads, but impossible to do it all at
once. I don't miss going to work in snow, no matter how well equipped
and skilled you are, others, not so much.
It was a good laugh to see a big SUV with AWD go flying by and then see
them off the road a couple of miles up.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 19:26:07 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
There are some great homemade fruitcakes and then there are some
simply awful homemade fruitcakes whether fresh or aged. Same goes
for commercially made fruitcakes. A very good one to consider are
the ones from Collins Street Bakery out of Texas.
Few other holiday oriented comestibles suffer from as up and down a reputation as the fruit cake - and deservedly so.
What worries me the most about ice storms is bringing down power
lines. No lights, no TV, no refrigerator, and no heat even though
I do have gas heat. Furnace doesn't work because of the electronic ignition to turn on the heat. Same for my kitchen stove, but I
can use a bbq lighter to light a burner.
There are some great lithium battery home backup systems around, many
are portable.
Winter tires are cheap insurance for emergencies.
I solve that problem by staying off the streets.
Emergencies was the modifier.
There's nothing pressing for me to out playing bumper cars when theSound thinking.
roads are slick. I just stay home and let everyone else crash into
each other.
You do get ice storms though, yes?
Yes, and I stay home when those strike just like I do for snow.
What worries me the most about ice storms is bringing down power
lines. No lights, no TV, no refrigerator, and no heat even though
I do have gas heat. Furnace doesn't work because of the electronic
ignition to turn on the heat. Same for my kitchen stove, but I
can use a bbq lighter to light a burner.
Winter tires are cheap insurance for emergencies.
I solve that problem by staying off the streets.\
It certainly is not unheard of up here for young guys to take their cars
out to big empty parking lots to do some donuts.
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that
sometimes. A friend or family member would suggest something to her
and she'd buy the ingredients but then never followed through. She
had good intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I have
no idea what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas
time. I love the stuff. However..... I would suggest to have it in small doses. I have seen different sizes of tarts and would recommend the
medium size because they is more mincemeat in them than in the small
ones, but the large ones might be too much. My mother's standard New
Years Day dessert was mincemeat pie. You should take only a small slice
at a time.
On 12/11/2025 2:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
It certainly is not unheard of up here for young guys to take their
cars out to big empty parking lots to do some donuts.
When we were 15/14, that is where we learned the basics of driving in
the snow. Our father took us to the school parking lot and learned
about traction.
At 16, we both worked for a grocery store and did the deliveries so we
were out in all sorts of weather. Good experience in a '58 Chevy Sedan Delivery, stick shift.
On 2025-12-11 3:20 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 12/11/2025 2:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
It certainly is not unheard of up here for young guys to take their
cars out to big empty parking lots to do some donuts.
When we were 15/14, that is where we learned the basics of driving in
the snow. Our father took us to the school parking lot and learned
about traction.
At 16, we both worked for a grocery store and did the deliveries so we
were out in all sorts of weather. Good experience in a '58 Chevy
Sedan Delivery, stick shift.
I learned to drive in the reserves when I was 16. They army had a big
plot of land in Niagara on the Lake. It was a small unit so we didn't
have that many vehicles but, unlike the local infantry and artillery
units, we were all trained to drive. IIRC we had three 3/4 ton SMPs, two deuces and a half and one three ton. We had to be a little more careful
with the 3 ton but the other two models were almost indestructible. We
were sent out into the open fields and had free rein.
One of my best experiences as when we were sent on an artillery shoot because they didn't have enough drivers. I was 17 years old driving a
deuce and a half with a gun crew in the back and towing a 105 howitzer,
When we got to the artillery range, which was a few thousand acres of rolling hill. I was told to follow the guys ahead and, because the field
was so muddy, not to stop until I got the gun in place.
That was a fun way to learn to drive.
On 12/10/2025 7:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-12-10 7:02 p.m., jmquown wrote:Point taken even though it's moot. :)
I'm sure I'd try it. I'm not sure why my mother bought a jar of
mincemeat and never did anything with it. She was like that
sometimes. A friend or family member would suggest something to her
and she'd buy the ingredients but then never followed through. She
had good intentions but really did not like baking or cooking. I
have no idea what happened to that jar of mincemeat.
Mincemeat tarts and pie were a standard in my family home at Christmas
time. I love the stuff. However..... I would suggest to have it in
small doses. I have seen different sizes of tarts and would recommend
the medium size because they is more mincemeat in them than in the
small ones, but the large ones might be too much. My mother's standard
New Years Day dessert was mincemeat pie. You should take only a
small slice at a time.
Jill
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only kind I
make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
On 2025-12-10, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I've got a light fruit cake in the freezer as that's the only kind I
make when I do bake one. Am I banned as well???
Which reminds me, there's an approximately 15 inch around fruit cake being sold
at the grocery store I frequent for 32 bucks. I can't imagine how incredible it
tastes for that price. 🙄
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